Oh, For Cryin’ Out Loud . . . .

| July 25, 2016

I will be so glad when this moron is finally consigned to the dustbin of history.

Kerry: Air conditioners as big a threat as ISIS

Freaking idiot.

Category: "Teh Stoopid", "Your Tax Dollars At Work", John Kerry

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3E9

I got nothing, just Damn.

JacktheJarhead

But I bet if they banned it, the “Elites” would still have air conditioning. You proles don’t need it! Swelter so your betters will have comfort!

Pinto Nag

And the elderly and asthmatics can die off faster, thus freeing up more money for other people to spend.

Mason

Which begs the question why doesn’t Sheriff Joe get more support from the left? He phased out A/C in his glorious tent city jail years ago. He was combating the true terrorism of global warming decades ago!

Graybeard

I think there is a petition to shut down all a/c in DC and Foggy Bottom.

MSG Eric

Absolutely, start with all State Department offices and especially the white house. No AC units in either should be on for the rest of the year.

Same with refrigerators, none in either, since John Heinz thinks they are bad, mmkay?

Lostcause

Climate change is a bigger threat than ISIS.

That is not just Kerry’s position, that is the position of the UN, NATO, and DoD as well.

Charles

http://www.defense.gov/News-Article-View/Article/612710

http://www.nato.int/cps/en/natohq/topics_91048.htm

http://www.nato-pa.int/Default.asp?SHORTCUT=3767

http://www.dtic.mil/whs/directives/corres/pdf/471521p.pdf

https://climateandsecurity.org/tag/department-of-defense/

Are all some recent Google hits for the DoD or NATO belief that climate change is a bigger security risk than the IIR, CIS, DPRK, PRC, ISIS, AQ, or other kinetic military actions.

UpNorth

What’s your point? That the mentioned organizations are as stupid as Jawn Fraud sKerry?

2/17 Air Cav

For you, UpNorth:

UpNorth

Thanks, 2/17. 🙂

Ex-PH2

Climate change would certainly slow down if Lars’s sockpuppeteer Lostcause would get his mouth sewn shut.

But I can see what the subject of my next essay will be.

For your information, you stupid ass, Beijing is one of the more polluted cities on this planet, but China truly can’t hold a candle to India, which has 15 – count ’em, asswipe – of the most polluted cities in the entire world.
http://indy100.independent.co.uk/article/these-are-the-15-most-polluted-cities-in-the-world–WJdghGA4fe

If we’re going to talk about pollution, let’s start with you shutting your piehole first.

Ex-PH2

Here’s an additional city that is considered to be more polluted than Delhi. It’s in Iran.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/worldviews/wp/2016/05/13/the-most-polluted-city-in-the-world-isnt-beijing-or-delhi/

So blow it out your shorts, sockpuppeteer Lostcause. You’re WAY out of your depth on this one.

Casey

Interesting. I thought China was worse off…

NR Pax

Don’t worry, Lars. Pretty soon, climate change will be replaced with a new buzzword and it won’t be a threat anymore.

Mike

Nothing beheads infidels like a TRANE.

20thEB67

****LIKE^^^^

A Proud Infidel®™

REALLY shit-for-brains candyass? THEn how often does your little poodledicked candy ass go without A/C there in La-la land? I guess that makes your precious UC Berzerkely a major threat with all of the A/C’ed buildings there, PUS-NUTS!

sj

I thought it was global warming. Did I miss the memo?

MSG Eric

Since things started cooling off at one point, plus they found EPA and other climate organizations fraudulently changing temperature numbers to show things getting hotter, they had to get away from “global warming” and instead went with Climate Change. That way, they could even say, “See! Its getting colder because of what us humans are doing!”

IDC SARC

So until the number of deaths by arms, chainsaws, fire, bludgeoning, throwing of rooftops etc at the hands of ISIS members doesn’t exceed some imaginary line of relative significance that Kerry and his ilk seem to constantly draw….everything’s fine and dandy.

But if it saves just one life according to the same administration we should pass the Feisntein weapons ban

well…that’s liberal logic

SFC D

When does Diane give up her gun?

LC

To be fair, there are a lot of ways of looking at the problem – if we are looking at, say, deaths in the US from Islamic terrorism in the past ten years, then bees (yes, the flying things that sting you) are a more severe threat. They kill on average 56 Americans a year, I believe. But bees aren’t a growing threat, and they also aren’t part of a concerted effort to change our way of life, so they’re clearly less of a problem. Even if more lethal, at least for the moment. When you start looking at climate change, it’s actually pretty easy to make a case for how it’s more of a threat than the (current) level of action from groups like ISIS. But we have to define how we’re quantifying that first. Governments (and statisticians ) don’t look at individual lives as much as they do metrics of populations, like life-expectancy. Now, obviously terrorism reduces ‘life-expectancy’ to zero for any victims, so let’s quantify it as best we can. Let’s say terrorists kill, I don’t know, 300 Americans per year on average. That’s a lot more than they’re currently killing, mind you, but this is just for discussion. And let’s also say that the average age of the person killed is 25. I figure younger people are out and about more than older, so it skews things lower. Now, the life expectancy of Americans is at about 78.74 years, so those three hundred killed represent a loss of 16,122 life-years [(78.74 – 25) * 300]. Obviously bad, right? Meanwhile, let’s say that climate change introduces some factor that effects average life expectancy – it could be heat stroke, longer mosquito season and range, whatever. Let’s say, for the sake of discussion, this change reduces average life expectancy in the US from that same 78.74 years to 78.73 years. To the average person, that’s a difference of 0.01 years, or just over 3.5 days of life. Hell, we waste more than that in traffic and watching bad television, right? No big deal. Except this is a population-wide… Read more »

Ex-PH2

Paranoid, much?

Bees are pollinating insects, necessary for a healthy environment. There are other pollinators, but bees of all sorts offer a much lower possibility of danger to you, a human, than you do to them because you’re afraid of them. We need more bees, more than we need a dope like Lurch running his mouth.

LC

I have no disagreement with you on that. We definitely need bees. I’m just saying that it depends on how you’re quantifying things – if we’re looking purely at lives lost, bees are more lethal than ISIS over the past few years.

Obviously that’s not the best way to look at it because bees aren’t (by living, anyway) actively seeking our destruction, both in terms of our individual lives and our way of life. Clearly ISIS is more of a threat there. But saying something is ‘worse’ than something else, and another person having a completely different metric for ‘worse’ means you aren’t talking about the same thing. That’s all.

Ex-PH2

Still does not work.

Unless you have actual statistics on the number of deaths due to bee venom anaphylactic shock, your statement still does not bear close examination.

LC

I can’t find a direct source specifically for bees right now, but here’s one for stinging insects:

“Thousands of people are stung by insects each year, and as many as 90–100 people in the United States die as a result of allergic reactions.” [ http://www.cdc.gov/niosh/topics/insects/ ]

And here’s a Washington Post article listing the number 58 for bees:

[ https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2015/06/16/chart-the-animals-that-are-most-likely-to-kill-you-this-summer/ ]

I wasn’t trying to single bees out though as a point, I was just showing that government often has a different metric than individuals.

LC

I was indeed rigging the game, intentionally so – I wasn’t attempting to prove that climate change is a bigger threat than ISIS, I was just offering a reasonable way in which it could be construed as such. And in particular reference to bees, yes, I chose that because it was close-but-larger.

As for changing the time-frame, I think going backwards in time -September 11th is an outlier- actually helps. Bees are a constant, and probably some function of population. ISIS, on the other hand, is absolutely a growing threat — going forward in time, I expect the balance to shift a bit.

And really, that’s part of the point – yes, it’s entirely plausible to make a case that right now bees are a more significant threat than ISIS… but bees aren’t going to change much, whereas ISIS, and groups like them, are going to become worse for at the very least the next few years, maybe decades. So ultimately it all comes down to how you measure threats.

I also think ISIS represents a direct threat, whereas climate change is a primary cause of indirect effects (eg, warming regions allow for wider distribution of disease vectors).

Again, overall, I was just trying to illustrate how the government could quantify the risk in a way that makes it a true statement. Very reasonable people, and I might even include myself in that (too many variables; I’m uncertain) can absolutely disagree.

Ex-PH2

First of all, stop using the buzz word ‘metric’. Try using English instead of hipslop. “Metric” is the metric system of measurement, NOT a reference to some sort of sloppy statistics. Abuse of the English language does NOT make you better or hipper.

Second, if ONLY 90 to 100 people in the USA die of insect venom-related causes, and 58 specifically are due to apian venom poisoning, that is a clear indication that your argument – AGAIN – is out of whack.

Why do I say that? Because ISIS has definitely killed far more than 58 people in one month alone since they invented themselves in 2014. I can point you to various news sources for backup for that, including the most recent events such as the Sept. 11, 2001 hijackings. That may not have been at the demand of ISIS, because ISIS didn’t officially exist at that time, but the radical Islam mentality has the exactly same roots and DOES count in what I said.

I have yet to find even one statistical note from you that says that climate change / air pollution / whatever shit is popular has directly been responsible for human deaths.
I’d also like to add here that bees and other stinging insects have been on this planet since the Cretaceous period, dating back 100 million years, and insect fossils have been found going back 400 million years to the Lower Devonian period. Modern humans, on the other hand, date back barely 200,000 years (if we’re lucky, and Lucy is 3.2 million years old).

And my point? Well, it’s that your argument still does not hold up.

Ex-PH2

Hondo, using ‘metric’ is a lame excuse for being too lazy to say ‘measurements’. It only appeared in common use this year as a Hipslopper term, a buzzword. It’s the same thing as using ‘optics’ as a visual reference. It is NOT clever, it is NOT good English, it is Hipslop and I am tired of it.

David

Better have a chat with the entire Quality industry, as ‘metric’ is an essential part of their vocabulary and has been for decades. Commonly accepted in manufacturing, e.g. “Quality Metrics”

LC

With respect to the numbers, I was just using American numbers – I don’t think ISIS has killed more than 58 people in the USA each year, have they?

And you’ll never find one statistical note from me explaining how climate change is directly responsible for deaths. It isn’t a direct effect, it’s an indirect one. Let’s assume, for the sake of discussion, that some of the projections on climate are correct, and the warmer climate in certain developed areas allows for some germs to last longer than normal and spread further than they ordinarily would. In this scenario, deaths from those germs are indirectly attributed to climate change. Because (again, from the perspective of the scientists being correct) without the change in climate, those germs wouldn’t have hit those people. Even if you disagree with climate change, you can see how people who do believe in it could quantify things that way?

As for ‘metric’, it is just the term I’ve seen used. It wasn’t an attempt to change language, sound smart, or anything like that.

SFC D

I love bees. Bees make honey, I love honey. Bees pollinate plants and make flowers and trees and fruits and veggies and all those great things that aren’t animals grow. But I have a personal grudge, for their queens have an affinity for the towers that support the effort to secure the border. Luckily, I have Reid the BeeMan to safely and humanely remove the little bastards from my cameras! Your taxes pay him to remove them, he increases his honey production. God I love capitalism! Bite me, Bernie!

Ex-PH2

I have carpenter bees that burrow into my deck railing every year and I welcome them. They are extremely territorial. The male has a tiny shield on his forehead which he employs to chase off stinging insects like wasps. The noise is as loud as a small firecracker.

#SupportCarpenterBees!

MSG Eric

Do you stay awake at night thinking up this stuff? Or do you just kinda spew it off the top of your head?

LC

It’s just a statement on how government policy looks at populations as a whole, not at individuals and how they’re effected by events. Actuarial tables operate similarly.

It’s impersonal, certainly, and maybe even ill-suited to this sort of thing. But in my experience, it’s how risk assessment is done.

Ex-PH2

And how long have you been in actuarial science? How many ISI/CPCU classes did you take? Exactly what IS your training in risk pool management?

Your argument still does not hold up.

IDC SARC

Fair?….FFS

well when HFCs/Bees/Cancer starts yelling Aloha Snackbar and committing the atrocities ISIS calls SOP I’ll agree. Until then it’s a false equivalency and disrespectful (no matter the numerical outcome) to make the comparison. And hypocritical as I previously pointed out.

LC

Like I said above, it’s just a look at how government does a risk analysis. Sure, someone yelling Aloha Snackbar and shooting up a few people is emotionally enraging, but I don’t know how to compare one person shot by an Islamic asshole with four killed via malaria.. or ten to cancer.. or two to car accidents.

I don’t know how you make those comparisons, and yeah, even attempting to do so is distasteful, but to plenty of people, that is the role of the government – tackling large threats and doing so proportionally to the risks. What value do you place on a life lost to Islamic terror? How about one lost to a car accident? Cancer? A crazy nutjob who just shoots random people? Are those all equal? If not, why and how do they differ?

A fair question to ask Kerry that throws all of the talking points in disarray is when would terrorism be a larger threat than climate change? He wouldn’t answer, because to do so means he’d have to quantify the risk and he is just being ideological.

Anyway, my math was off-base but at some point I’ll do the numbers properly and look at it again.

Ex-PH2

Try this instead: drunk drivers have, to date, killed more people than ISIS, including those driving horse-drawn carriages. And we have no idea how many chariot drivers ran over people by accident back in the day, but you get the drift.

You are not making valid comparisons. ISIS is a wear machine with no real form. It attracts people who have no social connection to anything, who feel ‘left out’ and go on a rampage with NO help from ISIS, while ISIS the Entity gloats in its hidey -hole.

Ex-PH2

Ha! Too early, not enough caffeine, not proofread!

‘wear machine’! That should be ‘WAR machine’

LC

I fully agree that comparing ISIS and any cause of death that is random (as opposed to intentional) isn’t ‘fair’. Nature and accidents are always going to kill people, and the number correlates with population density and other things that scale somewhat linearly.

ISIS, on the other hand, is limited only by their access to weapons with greater ability to destroy. Given a magical button that would destroy the United States with a single press, there’s no question that some fanatic wouldn’t press it. In effect, we’re simply unlucky in the case of nature, and lucky that ISIS lacks better weapons in their case.

I get that. All of it. I’m just saying that many people think government shouldn’t just deal with active threats like ISIS, it should deal with passive/accidental ones like car accidents (thus restricting texting in some states, for example) and climate change too. And if you subscribe to that, then climate projections can be seen as a larger, looming threat than ISIS.

I don’t personally feel threatened by either ISIS nor climate change, and the insanity of the ISIS ideology makes me want to see them all dead, fast. If I were in charge of government spending, though, I’d also be looking into how climate change effects things like disease vectors, migrant populations, severe weather, etc. Which, coincidentally, is what is happening.

Ex-PH2

I said, and I will repeat ad nauseum and ad infinitum, that I want to see ONE SINGLE DEATH directly attributable to climate change. Rains, floods, blizzards, tropical storms, tornadoes, and hurricanes are cyclical WEATHER EVENTS, not climate change.

2/17 Air Cav

LC. I actually appreciate your approach but it assumes that the proper role of our government is to be engaged in both climate change matters and combating ISIS. I reject the former out of hand. The latter I embrace as national security is a legitimate role of government.

The impact of terrorism (the aim of which is to terrorize, after all) cannot be measured in deaths directly attributable to ISIS or their independent contractors. One must also account for the fear, the loss of loved ones by survivors, and those who suffered nonfatal physical injury, grave or slight.

LC

I can completely understand that point of view. I struggle with the question of where the government’s role begins and ends in protecting her citizens, too.

Military action is, clearly, well understood as a primary role of government. Climate change isn’t. What makes it unique, though, is that it is a global issue, and not something individuals can do much about. But if we say the government needs to tackle this because of the scale, what else do we attribute to that? If self-driving cars are proven safer than driving, does the government get to outlaw ‘manual’ driving because it poses a greater risk to people?

I don’t have any easy answers, and I’m certainly not trying to change anyone’s mind… I just think there’s value in understanding how the other side views something.

IDC SARC

I’m perfectly aware of the indifferent nature of statistical data. However, even that claim is flawed since the attribution of deaths from HFCs or climate change is theoretical in nature. I can say for certain that I have seen one personally, since I was involved in the unsuccessful attempt at resuscitating the dumb ass that was huffing them. The deaths from ISIS have a direct causality.

rgr769

If you want know what is the most serious threat to American lives, look at healthcare. According to numerous studies, medical errors in this country kill over 200,000 people every year. And in the documentary I watched, the doctor expert said that is just an educated estimate he believes is conservatively low, as many deadly errors are simply covered up. So where is the public uproar about this most deadly menace to “all lives” in this country? Then imagine how much worse this problem is in third world countries. All I hear is crickets.

LC

No major disagreement there. It’s a big problem. It’s up for debate whether we can improve on this, as any additional training takes away from time with patients, so quantifying improvement is tricky.

One interesting side note to all of this is that there’s some indication that using ‘expert systems’ -a computerized system to check for errors and solutions- may help,… but at the same time there’s an institutional inertia to implementing all this. An amusing (and terrifying?) indication of this happened during the Ebola outbreak – some hospitals in the US had technology that, when a patient was being in-processed, put up a big popup on the terminal asking if the patient had been to any of the hot-spots. Because it did this intrusively (local three year old with a broken arm? Ask if they just visited West Africa!), as opposed to intelligently (allowing the triage nurses to indicate they had if they mention it or had symptoms), the vast majority of medical professionals just closed pop-ups without even looking. Had a different, important warning popped up, they’d have missed it.

MSG Eric

DoD is saying it because King Barry is telling them to say that.

NATO is saying it because the US is NATO.

The UN is saying it because they say all kinds of dumb things like that (which also work hard to hide the amount of corruption in their organizations), but also because the US is the main bill payer for the UN and has been for years. If the US stopped giving the UN the money it gives every year, they’d be seriously hurting, especially all those executive types who enjoy their comfortable living. Further, any “social justice” fad that pops up, they support so people will think they are still relevant. (The UN had several countries guilty of causing human suffering and torture on their human rights council.)

Blaster

I haven’t had to raise my Personal FOCON at the casa because of my A/C, but I am extra careful and aware around crowds.

When A/Cs start cutting off heads and detonating in crowds, get back to me with what I’ll consider left wing bull shit until that time.

SFC D

Just because I miss saying it;

Fuck you, Lars.

3 simple words, 1 simple meaning, yet I’m sure you can write a term paper and consume an entire ream of paper, explaining what “SFC D really meant”.

Let’s save some trees. I like trees.

Fuck you, Lars.

Here ended the lesson

Ex-PH2

I already posted that, Lars, you incredible moron. I posted it this morning, right here:

http://valorguardians.com/blog/?p=67043&cpage=1#comment-2880059

You lose, sucker!

You need to find a real job that requires an attention span somewhat longer than a gnat’s. that way you’ll perform a useful function such as contributing your tax dollars to the national economy and bumping up your Social Security credit, because if the only job you ever had was eleven years in the Army, you aren’t going to have squat to live on when you start drawing SocSec.

Reaperman

I think that this theory needs tested–for science. Maybe he can go to an ISIS frat party somewhere in Syria, and I’ll sit here in a comfortably air-conditioned room, so we can figure out which one of us will die first.

MSG Eric

Frankly, he is too big a spokesman and supporter of their propaganda causes to kill him. They’d treat him like a King and clean things up so he could see how wonderfully they treat their own members, sex slaves, etc., just so he could come back and say “Those people with ISIS don’t have it so bad, I’ve seen for myself!”

MrBill

If you’ve ever stood next to an air conditioner that blew itself up you’d be whistling a different tune.

Akpual

Damn right.

Akpual

And they sometimes have scary black fan motors.

MSG Eric

That’s what the “A” in A/C stands for right?

Assault Conditioner

Roh-Dog

No BS, was just about to post, “Ban high-capacity assault conditioners”.
I’ve been here too long…

Hack Stone

Did it yell “Allah Akbar!” as it exploded?

Blaster

Damn it.

I’m sitting in the waiting room of the Dr’s office reading this on my phone, and now everyone in here is looking at me because I started laghing. And I’m by myself.

Thanks for that!

Akpual

What kinda dr?

Blaster

Just a family practitioner, but I still got the looks

Thunderstixx

Just tell them that you feel better since you went back on your electroshock therapy regimen.
If they need further convincing that you truly are a loon, add that the new psychotropics are a heck of a lot better than the ones they gave you when you were locked up for threatening a mass murder !!!

Blaster

Well, sounds good, except that the meds were due to being kidnapped by aliens and not threatening mass murder??

HMCS(FMF) ret.

Just don’t ask for the “anal probing”…

George V

I guess this is why Kerry and his ilk only eat salted meat and dried vegetables and have giant armpit stains in all their suits. Wait… you mean they don’t????

Veritas Omnia Vincit

This guy it the gift that just keeps on giving…like the Jam of the Month…when you don’t want that shit you keep getting it…

Ex-PH2

Well, VOV, someone told him to talk about it and he had to say something. I will be so glad when his microphone is turned off and taken away from him.

This is all a ploy for attention, nothing else. In fact, the more stupid things he says like this, the more stupid he sounds than he did when he yapped and lied about Vietnam to get attention.

SFC D

Climate change is seared, seared into his brain. Air conditioners are ravaging the world in a manner reminiscent of Jenghis Con

rgr769

Those sounds of rampant AC are seared into his brain like the sound of the Christmas carols he heard while steering his 55 foot gunboat (Swiftboat) ever so stealthily into Cambodia on X-mas eve 1968, on a secret squirrel mission for President Nixon.

David

So sayeth the cult led by Al Gore, the same man who trumpets global warming while living in a Tennessee compound which reportedly averages $15,000 a month electric bills. I’m sure that all goes to heating the place in the winter: surely Tennessee never, ever gets warm in the summer.

Me, I’d say the greatest danger isn’t global warming, it’s global hypocrisy – religious, political, nationalist, scientific: if the world ever had a day where everyone had to tell the truth a la the “Liar, Liar” movie – civilization would be gone in hours.

MSG Eric

Don’t forget about his private jet and his limos that transport him to climate change conferences so he can tell people what they’re doing is bad, mmkay?

Al Gore isn’t an environmentalist, he’s a capitalist. He wants everyone ELSE to be environmentalists.

A Proud Infidel®™

Al Gore Jr. hypes and screeches about mining but no one says anything about the large zinc mine on one of his properties he inherited from his daddy.

ex-OS2

You should Google Map 8 and 10 Gore Farm Lane Carthage, TN and see the digs being built there now, foundation is over 7,000 square feet. Juniors old house that Smith County paid to have built for him is across the road. Glance to the other side of the Caney Fork River to view the mine.

The Other Whitey

Consider the source. You didn’t expect something intelligent from the Ketchup Prince, didja?

Heidi

Can someone check his house and see if his a/c is running currently, asking for a friend.

F@ckyocouch

Damn. 2 in a row that Obama-san has elevated to Sec State role. Both, just astonishing examples of how someone can reach that office and still not have the common sense God gave a bitch-ape in heat. Keep it up, and that position will become the shit- magnet for thoughtless public speakers… too late.

2/17 Air Cav

I am considering turning myself in. I once had a car that was diagnosed with a clogged catalytic converter. So, I took it off, opened it, removed the cement-like honeycomb with a chisel and hammer, and put it back on the car. End of car problem. What’s more, it passed emissions testing in the state that I lived then. Let’s see. I cook outdoors all the time and burn hundreds and hundreds of pounds of charcoal annually. I also throw old batteries in the trash. I also break up old electronics so they won’t be detected and toss them, making sure that there is no tossed mail in the same bag. Um, I do not recycle anything. I think that’s about it.

Ex-PH2

I throw out used cat food that I find in the catboxes. I tend to recycle only what I can get cash for, like the blower motor for my furnace and the lawn mower cord that met with a lawn mower accident, or empty cat food cans. No cash, no recycle.

Climate change would slow down if every politician ever invented was locked up in holding cells for about 10 years nonstop.

A Proud Infidel®™

That or if they were say flogged and beaten for at least twelve hour straight every time they said something that stupid,

The Other Whitey

I recycle glass and plastic bottles, because they pay you for it.

Akpual

Once I told my boss if I had to hear about our companies green initiatives one more time I was gonna go burn used tires in my backyard.

sj

Awhile back, when he was somewhat sane, Glenn Beck had a sticker for the car that had a logo that Lars would love and the words “Hydrocarbon Powered Eco-Vehicle”. Nut cases like Lars would swoon when they saw that on SUV’s like a Suburban.

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26Limabeans

I burn old car batteries in a 55 gal. drum for the lead.

Akpual

Good idea.

Dennis - not chevy

Have you ever noticed when troops are about to be tried by courts-martial most of them get religious? It’s the same way with liberals; when they are about to become superfluous, they get all environmental.

Green Thumb

I wonder if he will speak at the DNC?

Great message.

Perry Gaskill

It makes you wonder. Is Kerry really as dense as he seems, or is it a matter of willful ignorance? Under normal circumstances, the HFCs used in air conditioners and refrigerators are not released into the atmosphere. They are closed systems by design.

It’s also a safe bet that all of the HFCs used in yearly repair work for all the air conditioners and refrigerators in all the world is not even close to the amount of hydrocarbons dumped by the aircraft to haul Kerry’s sorry butt to Vienna.

“The use of hydrofluorocarbons is unfortunately growing,” Kerry said. “Already, the HFCs use in refrigerators, air conditioners, and other items are emitting an entire gigaton of carbon dioxide-equivalent pollution into the atmosphere annually. Now, if that sounds like a lot, my friends, it’s because it is. It’s the equivalent to emissions from nearly 300 coal-fired power plants every single year.”

Liar, liar. Pants on fire…

UpNorth

An “entire gigaton of carbon dioxide-equivalent pollution”? Tell us, Mr. sKerry, who weighed that “carbon dioxide-equivalent pollution”? Did you? How do you manage to get that “equivalent pollution into the box and onto the scales to weigh it? Moron…

Perry Gaskill

Here’s a back-of-envelope calculation, UpNorth:

Earth’s population is currently around 7 Billion and there are 365 days per year. In order for Kerry’s gigaton statement to be true, and assuming every person on the planet had an air conditioner and refrigerator, it would mean that the combined output of both devices would amount to 391,389 tons per day of HFC emissions. Roughly the equivalent per person per day of 11,183 eighteen-wheel tractor-trailers.

Perry Gaskill

Disregard. I’m an idiot.

The number actually works out to .78 pounds per person per day, which is still a crock for a closed system.

chooee lee

I think his daddy pulled out way too soon.

Blaster

No. Unfortunately it wasn’t soon enough.

Graybeard

His daddy should have never gone there.

Ex-PH2

His momma should have said ‘NO!’ just that one time.

Blaster

I’ll bet that both of his parents lost some sort of a bet.

What do you think?

Ex-PH2

I don’t doubt it a bit.

I’d bet there were a lot of nasty words tossed back and forth when he was spawned, too. 🙂

A Proud Infidel®™

Sadaam Hussein and Kerry’s father have one thing in common, THEY BOTH should have pulled out early!

Ex-PH2

I really do get a mixed message out of this. I can elaborate further, but what I hear is ‘progress is bad stuff’ and what is actually hidden in that message is ‘I’m the King and you’re the peasants’.

Is that a fair assessment?

I’m only asking because in 2012, my central air ran out of coolant about two days ahead of the end of a very bad heat wave, and I toughed it out, intending to recharge the HVAC the next year. Fortunately, the following three summers were lovely and cool and A/C wasn’t needed for even one day. I just put it off.
This summer was a repeat of 2012 and I needed the A/C for a few days, but put my cash into car repairs instead and the heat wave is now almost gone so a recharge isn’t necessary until next year.

I think I find it the most appalling that what Lurch objects to is based on his utter ignorance of the subject, especially since Freon/R22 is being phased out in favor of other substances like R-410A, which does not contain chlorine.

I am fed up with this disconnect from reality, by the ignorance people like Lurch constantly display, and by their insistence that others kowtow to their demands when they don’t follow the very rules they expect the rest of us to follow.

My suggestion – no, demand – is that if they want people to do things to lower pollution and keep the climate from ‘changing’, the change should start with them. Them first. Set the example. Otherwise, shut the fuck up and go back to the pissholes you crawled out of.

And in conclusion, bodaprez’s ‘green’ shit program has done more damage to farmland and marginal land that was in conservation and is now being planted than ever happened before that asshole ran his ignorant mouth.

sj

I heard that he served in Viet Nam. Is that true?

BTW…no Heinz product passes the door of ole SJ’s RV.

B Woodman

I’ll have to look and see if I have Heinz or Hunts in my pantry. Either way, it has cane sugar, not corn syrup.

And I’m still looking to find a commercial BBQ sauce with the same criteria, cane sugar, NOT corn syrup. And yes, it DOES make a difference in taste. I tolerate American Coke if there’s nothing else, but I prefer Mexican Coke. Or water.

MSG Eric

Coke drools, Pepsi rules.

SFC D

You’ve never been introduced to Mexican Coca-Cola, made with good old tooth rotting cane sugar. Makes the Cuba Libre’s taste soooo much better at SFC D’s Cantina

MSG Eric

Had it, better than American Coke, still not as good as Pepsi. lol

Ex-PH2

Have you ever tried making your very own BBQ sauce? It really isn’t hard. You just need plain canned tomatoes, cane sugar or dark brown sugar, Worcestershire sauce, a good vinegar like cider, wine or champagne vinegar, maybe some extra molasses, and something spicy like chili powder. You puree the tomatoes, add the other stuff to taste, cook it very slowly over a low flame until it’s very, very soupy and let it cool in the fridge. The ingredients vary. You can use ketchup instead of just canned tomatoes, but I found in making pasta sauce that canned tomatoes cook down nicely if you keep stirring them over a very low flame. Besides, if you make your own BBQ sauce, you know what is in it.
I’ll have to fool around with this, but there’s no reason to buy a commercial sauce with ingredients that you don’t like.

B Woodman

Sounds good, but I don’t always have the time I want to be cookin’ in the kitchen.

I’ve been wanting to bake bread for the last two years, still haven’t gotten to it.

(sigh) I am SO looking forward to my second retirement.

Claw

Yes, I heard that too. I also heard he has a Silver Star w/Combat Distinguishing Device as proof of service in Viet Nam.

It must be true. I saw his DD214 back when he was waving it in everybody’s face in some sort of a political campaign.

MSG Eric

Was that before or after he threw all his medals over the white house fence in protest, and spoke to Congress about all the baby killing he saw happen?

SFC D

It was before he threw somebody else’s medals over the fence.

rgr769

Yeah, he served in RVN, for about four months, until he used his connections to get his third questionable purple heart, which gave him a ticket home.

A Proud Infidel®™

Another batch of weapons grade STUPID from John “Lurch” Kerry, yet another candyassed shit-for-brains pinkie-in-the-air silver-spoon-up-the-ass trust fund pus-nuts no-load hypocritical POS Northeastern blueblood limousine and learjet liberal telling us lowly taxpaying peasants to do without, eat bean sprouts and ride the bus while they keep their mansions, limos, yachts, A/C and vacations on the French Riviera. FUCK ALL of his type and their ilk.

MSG Eric

As if the Billionaire John Kerry Heinz will give up his own air conditioning, his private plane, his huge house, etc.

UpNorth

Don’t forget his yacht, that he hides in another state, so he doesn’t have to pay state taxes on it.

A Proud Infidel®™

OH, you mean his yacht that he docks in RI so he doesn’t have to pay the MA Luxury Tax on it while he spouts about us peasants needing to pay more taxes?

Claw

Like the one commenter said on the linked article:

I’ll give up my air conditioner when you pry the thermostat from my cold, stiff fingers!!

Ex-PH2

The comments on that column are priceless.

MSG Eric

What’s really troubling to me is how many military personnel, current or veteran, have defended this “climate change is the #1 priority for the military” bullshit as how it should be.

Not even the top 10 priorities should be “climate change” for the military. It is stupidly ridiculous that we’re at the point where even military personnel are standing up to say it should be the #1 thing for the military. The same people who are probably hoping their boss reads their fb comments to evaluate them and will give them points for fighting for the commander in chief’s priority as being such.

We’re at the point where the military is being told that fighting and winning the nation’s wars isn’t what we’re here for anymore. Along with being reduced, cut to shreds, etc., all the while being deployed to Iraq, Syria, Afghanistan, and anything else Barry thinks we should do. And again, some are supporting this kind of thing (until they are given a pink slip, I’m sure).

2/17 Air Cav

Or they retire and then feel safe to speak up. My guess is that publishers are turning away would-be, tell-all insiders by the droves about now. The number will quadruple if Trump loses.

SFC D

The only “climate change” that the military should be concerned with is changing bad guys to “room temperature”.

OldManchu

Fucking Asshole!

What’s your thermostat set at you fucking traitor piece of shit?????

One day…. Soon.

Blaster

Yeah, I notice he’s never sweating when he’s standing in front of a microphone spouting off his ignorance.

I’m sure that all NATO, U.N, senate, HoR,and White House briefing rooms and conference rooms are very comfortable

Ex-PH2

His sweat glands stopped working long ago, about the time he started plastic surgery to freeze his face. Did you notice how he smacked his head on the door at No. 10 Downing Street the other day? He can’t feel a damned thing in his face. I just wonder how much botox he’s been getting and when it will freeze him solid.

Ex-PH2

Just a question: am I the only person who thinks that Kaine, the veep nominee, looks like a ventriloquist’s dummy?

Seriously. The lower jaw moved and all I heard was wood lips clapping together.

OldManchu

I noticed that now that you mention it! Good eye.

26Limabeans

Come to think of it, he does resemble the old toy dummy “Willie Talk”.

http://willietalk.com/about_willie.html

Skippy

Well after reading 3500 pages of DNC doc and E-Mails how are why would anybody be so stupid to vote for these pot smoking Meth snorting crack heads ?????

lily

He said “ISIS doesn’t provide healthcare” before congress too.

rgr769

Well, President Hillary will fix that by making them eligible for 0bamacare.

Akpual

I actually hate John Kerry. I can’t type how much I hate him because it would melt this keyboard.

timactual

They can have my air conditioner when they pry it from my comfortably cold, dead, hands.

Ex-PH2

Make a note: US-based military operations may be compromised by this climate change thingy. By 2050, NAS Key West may or may not be seeing more water than it already does.

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-climatechange-military-idUSKCN1070C4

The thing is, it’s a Navy base. It requires water to navigate, the more water, the better.

Well, maybe the Navy shouldn’t have sold NAS Glenview, after all. It was only a stopoff for cross-country military flights, anyway.