Do Not Let the Gwookies Win! by Ex-PH2

| June 5, 2016

A short while ago, someone accused me of being no better than the Vichy government of France, just because I don’t agree with his morbid, thumbsucking, navel-gazing view of how things are going to progress from this point forward. That’s a rather heinous thing to say about someone, especially when it’s someone you don’t know at all and you’re just pissed off because you can’t have YOUR way in politics.

We all have to remember that there is no perfect candidate for office, and particularly no perfect candidate for the office of President of the USA. There are only those who may be very harmful and those who are far less likely to be harmful to this country in general.

No one who gets elected to that office has ever been a perfect human being. George Washington was as much a philanderer as FDR, Eisenhower, JFK and LBJ, but when he could have said “Okay, I’ll be the King”, instead, he said, “N-O, no. No kingship.” Andrew Jackson was an abrasive, obnoxious, stubborn soldier who opened up the White House to his friends at some point and turned it into party central. I don’t know if it was the 19th century version of Animal House, because I wasn’t there. He sent the Eastern aboriginal tribes on a long, arduous trek westward so that their territory could be used by settlers. He also left his presidency with a surplus in Treasury deposits, something we no longer see.

We’ve had both brilliant people and utterly dimwitted morons in that office on a recurring basis. Who was worse? Martin van Buren or Franklin Pierce? Under Van Buren, Jackson’s Treasury surplus became a scandalous default debt by the USA. Pierce spent more money redecorating the White House than doing anything else. Grant’s loyalty to people he chose for his cabinet made him unwilling to remove ineffective people, with the result that he was blamed for the post-war economic depression that started in Europe and spilled over into the United States. And I would not want to be remembered the way Herbert Hoover is. He said ‘Everything is just fine’ and went fishing.** And when the stock market collapsed, he got blamed for it, just like Bush, Jr. still gets blamed by libretards for things he had no part in causing, and that includes the financial mess of 2009 and after. That mess was predicted several years before by a wide group of financial experts, and if anything, it started with Clinton’s massive overspending, revoking the Glass-Steagall act, and moving money out of funds that should never have been touched. It may even have started with Jimmy Carter’s complete incompetence in office. **(Yes, Hondo, I’m summarizing.) I still think he’s the worst, ever, although you may disagree with my view.

Are we sliding into Dystopia because we have a candidate who is a loud-mouthed, abrasive, opportunistic boor who wants his name on the buildings he puts up everywhere? Is it because the only other candidates are 1) – a lame-assed, incompetent moron who has never held a real job, had no idea where money comes from, wants to tax you at 90% if you have more than two coins to rub together, and thinks bread lines are wonderful because then the poor can have bread, instead of only the rich having bread; and 2) – a sleazy cow who lies like a Persian rug and is only in this for herself, and to get that slimeball she’s married to, back into the White House?

No. We are not sliding anywhere. If you don’t understand the term ‘Dystopia’, then watch ‘Soylent Green’. It’s far closer to Dystopia than ‘Hunger Games’ or the ‘Insurgent’ series of movies. It is a society, as in Heinlein’s ‘Coventry’ stories, so degraded and separated from the rest of society that it’s like a terrarium. Does anyone in the City in ‘Hunger Games’ ever pay attention to the infrastructure? Are there people in ‘Purge’ who make repairs to the power grid after a severe storm? What do they do when their bully pulpit is hit by severe flooding? Where do they get their groceries and clothing? Do they go steal that stuff some place? Inside those walls, these stories imply that the inhabitants have nothing to do but torment the poor souls who are dumb enough to wander into their clutches, as in ‘Hunger Games’, ‘Purge’ and the Insurgent series.

‘Soylent Green’ is closer to dystopian reality than those others. The place is a foaming dictatorship, which no one dares disturb, and is more corrupt than anything except Venezuela in present-day politics. In North Korea, the epitome of Dystopia at its finest, the dictatorship might just execute you and make you dig your own grave, or turn you into protein bars, or put you into some sort of murderous contest, such as ‘The Running Man’ and ‘Hunger Games’, or physically expel you into the Wild, which happens in ‘If This Goes On — ’ (Heinlein).

Outside the city, away from that closed environment seething with an unseen underworld of disease, depravity, and degradation, the world is moving along just fine. The city itself is a somewhat murderous version of a terrarium, and when the food, electricity, clean water, sanitation, and medicine run out – when the lights go out — what happens? Wharf rats the size of adult beavers emerge from alleys and sewers, enormous cockroaches scurry across streets and sidewalks, scavengers and predators of every sort come out of hiding to prey on those unfortunate enough to be out after dark. You can find all of that over in Fatty Kim da T’ird’s little shithole paradise. And remember: on that map of the World At Night, Norkiland is one place with NO LIGHTS ON.

Back to the real world: No, we are not facing a long, slow slide into Dystopia, no matter how morbid some people may feel about it. This disruptive cycle of political unrest and antisocial misbehavior has been going on, at least since the 1960s, maybe even the mid-1950s. It is NOT new. I saw it in the 1960s and 1970s, as did many other people who comment here regularly. It was made worse by trusted reporters like Walter Cronkite, once titled ‘the most trusted journalist in America’, who lied his ass off about Vietnam and finally admitted to doing that some time later. Because of him, and people who are even worse than he was, journalism has become the equivalent of the Soviets’ official publication, Pravda. You can’t believe anything the press says any more.

The trajectory for that horseshit has gone as far to the left as it can go. The beginning of the end of this asinine crap starts with the elections this Fall. No matter who gets elected in the Fall, the swing of the pendulum away from the left is going to happen whether the libretards and leftnuts like it or not. Their arguments are worn out, tiresome, and frequently just plain ridiculous, meant only to point the finger away from them and their blatant, transparent hypocrisy. They may riot, burn flags, block people from buildings, throw things and scream loudly, but all they do is drive reasoning people to the opposite side of the political spectrum. They have had their day.

The events of the past four years alone, all of which have been reported fairly accurately in various resources, have snapped people out of the comas they have been living in, despite various attempts by Social Justice Moron Howler Monkeys* to alter their reality. (*HT to Nicki for that.) Destructive public rampages, screaming and howling disruptions at meetings, and mass criminal activities do have an effect on people.

There has been civil unrest lately in Azerbaijan (where???), which is one of Putin’s major shipping routes. It’s not going to stop until it stops on its own. And if any of that unrest becomes a direct threat to us, as has the Middle East, we cannot afford to just curl up in a corner and let it trample us, no matter which direction it comes from. Is this really pertinent?? Yes, it can spread to other Central Asian nations like Kyrgyzstan, which is currently quietly moving along. Check the news on Central Asia: it’s starting up there, because they are broke. If civil war does not erupt in Venezuela, I will be surprised.

No one wants warfare or slaughter. NO ONE. But peace comes at a price and we all know it. There is no such thing as real peacetime. If you look back through REAL history, there are only bouts of peace interspersed through constant warfare. This is what needs to be taught to children who may face it in the future as adults, not the predigested pablum that they’re getting at present.

Now we are facing the elections in November. Whether or not you like Trump as the GOPer candidate is immaterial. He’s a butthead and a loudmouth and a grandstanding SOB, but so what? He flipflops. He’s opportunistic. He makes faux pas. He’s a boor. What politician has not done that, especially during this campaign season?

The alternatives are the crapweasel in a pantsuit and that rancid, badly aging, out-of-touch Bernout. I really do think both of them would curl up in a tight ball, cover their heads, and let whatever happen, as long as either one of them gets to sit on top of the pile of ruin when it’s all over.

Those are your choices. At this point, it appears that shrillary might have the jackass by its tail. It also appears that the Bernout will not give up his place in line. I know – there are others from alternate parties, too. I mean, where the hell is that Commie bitch Angela Davis when you need her and her big mouth?

I do not care who you vote for. I do care that you vote. You may not like the choices. I don’t. This is one time when, no matter how much you detest someone and you have to hold your nose to vote or stock up on Pepto Bismol, you should still go and vote.

However, if you just throw up your hands and go sulk in a corner instead of going to the polls to vote come November, and someone worse than Trump gets the job, then what are you going to do?

Do NOT come complaining to me about it Do not expect me to listen to you, either.

You had your chance. You let the other guys win.

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STSC(SW/SS)

If anything you should get out and vote because of the undercard for Senator/US Rep and officials at the state level. Who knows if you vote third party and they get enough votes the DEM/GOP monopoly might take notice.

The only wasted vote is one that is not cast.

MrBill

You make an excellent point. No matter which disaster is voted into the Oval Office, we need Congress to act as a responsible check on the President. Even if you have written off the Presidential election as a lost cause, it’s important to choose other good public officials.

And I agree with your point about voting third party. Even though the Republican platform is closer to my views than the Libertarian platform, I’m leaning toward voting for Gary Johnson just to register my dissatisfaction with those other buffoons.

Casey

…And they will ignore you, MrBill, exactly because you wasted your vote on a splinter party. The Green Party is also ignored for the same reasons, even though Nader managed to play spoiler in 2000 in Florida.

Yef

Dream on. A 3rd party vote is a vote for the Democrats and their fundamental transformation.

Sarge

Damn well written.

/amen

Ex-PH2

Thank you.

Wireman611

As far as the references to Heinlein go I believe we are currently in the start of “the Crazy Years”‘, with more to come. You have to admit that the man was more often right than wrong. I do believe in the “Starship Troopers” idea that only service to the state provides voting rights.

AW1 Tim

I absolutely support Heinlein’s concept of national service = voting and government jobs, elected office,etc.

Too many Americans don’t have any skin in the game, so to speak, and refuse to accept that with their citizenship comes a responsibility of participation. They want their cake,but don’t want to pay for it.

Ex-PH2

I’m almost at that point, too.

Instinct

I think it’s because they have been taught they are owed all these things and not that they are responsible for themselves.

The lack of understanding about the Constitution and how our government is designed to work is at a point that the kids coming out of school are functionally illiterate about Civics, Economics, and History.

Ex-PH2

The howling about it in my school district is coming from the students themselves. They are saying that this past semester, they learned NOTHING.

That’s quite a statement from kids in junior high.

Instinct

A very good statement!

OldSoldier54

I am unsurprised at no learning happening, but very surprised by the realization of that, and the resulting complaint of the students themselves.

That’s good news. Now if only it spreads …

AW1 Tim

Absolutely agree, shipmate. You sumup things pretty well.

As much as people hate Trump (and I don’t hate,just have a few concerns) I’ll add this: He’s the only one who has real-life experience in running a business. He’s the only one in decades who actually understands how an economy works. He’s the only one who can be trusted to make a deal with whomever that is actually favourable to these United States.

So Trump gets my vote.

There’s a lot of folks who say that their “integrity” won’t let them vote for Trump. Well, balderdash. If you, like me, choked back your bile and pulled the lever for McCain or Romney, then you can damned well do the same for Trump, else be a hypocrite.

I’m not a “yuuuuuge!” Trump fan, but I AM a realist and if you want to see this nation slide closer to massive civil unrest and a crashing economy, the expansion of an already bloated and over-reaching federal government and the erosion of your rights, then by all means, vote for someone else.

I’ll take a drink, then vote for Trump.

Thunderstixx

For some reason or another, I have a very good feeling about Trump. It’s just a gut feeling and I have no idea why or how I have it, but of all the bad with him there is one thing certain…
I firmly believes that he really loves America which is a damn sight better than any of the other candidates can say.
The witch is a candidate for a rope necklace after her treasonous acts regarding Benghazi and Trump has expressed an interest in actually going after her and the slickster legally as it should be.
The other pukeface represents everything else wrong with the current crop of college safe space femininity award winning males of the species that I truly hope doesn’t get a chance to reproduce.
When I hear anyone on fakebook say that their higher moral character won’t allow them to vote for Trump I always make certain that I consider them even less deserving of any of my friendship than killary herself.
If someone actually sits this one out or votes for whatever klowne that Bill Kristol & Paul Ryan drag out just to muck things up they truly are the biggest part of the problem.
I was a constituent of Ryan’s at one time and cannot believe how far he has fallen.
I voted for Cruz but I know that he would have not only had problems with the GOPe he also would have had numerous problems with the press as he is no where near as good as Trump is at belittling them and sticking a big fist up their collective asses in a verbal jousting of real combat.
Trump isn’t perfect, but he is a damn sight better than any other GOP candidate of the past few elections.
Not only will I vote for Trump, I will be supporting him by donating a few bucks to him and proudly displaying a Trump bumper sticker on my car, front and back so nobody misses it !!!
Fuck ’em…

CPT11A

I know it’s not the point, but can someone point to the evidence of Washington or Eisenhower being philanderers? JFK, LBJ and FDR are obvious, but I can’t find anything on the other two. Where are you getting this?

Ex-PH2

George Washington had an ongoing affair with Sally Fairfax. Martha did know about it.

Dwight Eisenhower’s driver, Kay Summersby, was also his secretary and his constant companion. They shared quarters at the Trianon Hotel.

Casey

The claim about Summersby is BS. There is not one iota of proof anything ever happened. It’s all rumors.

By that same logic FDR knew about Pearl before it happened and Dubya knew about 9/11.

Instinct

You forgot to mention the drug addled Libertarian Johnson and his gun hating VP.

The Libertarians keep trying to tell us to vote for these two because they, somehow, are real defenders of the Constitution but Johnson is fine on trampling on a persons religious freedom and forcing them to violate their religious belief by the use of government force.

Meanwhile his VP, former Massachusetts Governor William Weld, is all for gun bans, long waiting periods and wants to tell us how many guns we can be allowed to own.

So there you have it. A blowhard, a criminal, a communist and a statist.

I suggest voting and then getting drunk.

AW1 Tim

Apparently, Weld is right there with you. 🙂

https://howiecarrshow.com/trump-i-dont-talk-about-his-alcoholism/

Instinct

Apparently, Weld is way ahead of me on the drunk factor.

It explains quite a bit, like how he is able to sit and listen to Johnson talk for any extended period of time.

Ex-PH2

Johnson would be from ‘other party’.

Sparks

Well written and thank you Ex-PH2. Here-Here!

Ex-PH2

Thanks, Sparks. Hope you’re doing okay today.

Dave Hardin

Outstanding. I am amazed at what you can do with a keyboard and red wine.

Its about time we classed up this place with some promulgation of profoundness. Not that I don’t enjoy the bunker bum banging on the keyboard or Hobo’s horrendously humorous hawking.

Try some of that juxtaposition jargon, be careful and dont strain your phalanges.

Keep it up!

Ex-PH2

Quiche w/minced ham and chives, toasted ciabatta bread, olives, green beans and the remaining glass of cheap Tuscan red.

Zero Ponsdorf

Well said Ex-Ph2.

I’ve been, per usual, using the more succinct phrase “Lesser of evils” to describe what you laid out in wonderful detail.

Thanks.

Ex-PH2

All I am saying is Give Trump a Chance!

Oh! How about a VOTE IN!?!?!?

Everybody goes and votes!

2/17 Air Cav

On the other hand…

Ex-PH2

I’m hoping this election will end in the conservatives mooning the lefties.

Green Thumb

Maybe I should move to Russia.

I do agree with Putin but 1) he is a strong (if not heavy-handed leader) that respects strength and intelligence and 2) I have an odd feeling that you know where you stand.

Unlike these three clowns.

Perry Gaskill

I’m going to take exception to a couple of things in this, Ex-PH2:

“…journalism has become the equivalent of the Soviets’ official publication, Pravda. You can’t believe anything the press says any more.” Followed by, “The events of the past four years alone, all of which have been reported fairly accurately in various resources…”

So which is it? Personally, I’m having a hard time wrapping my head around the idea that “the press” is fundamentally different from “various resources.” It’s all media. If there’s a distinction to be made, it’s that some voices are louder than others.

It seems to be a recurrent meme on TAH to beat up on Cronkite for his role as chief liar about the war in Viet Nam, but the whole idea of that misses, at least it seems to me, a key point. Here’s an example:

Let’s say I have a cooking weblog, and interview you one day during which you cheerfully– and falsely– tell me that rat poison is part of a healthy diet. If I pass along such information, it doesn’t necessarily also make me a liar. It would be fair to say I’m a gullible fool, and lazy for not vetting the source better, but not a liar unless I repeat the falsehood knowing it to be such.

While it’s true the press often deserves scorn and derision, to say you can’t believe anything the press says is also a mostly useless simplification. A better approach, my opinion, is that a functional democracy needs a healthy press to survive, and we’re not getting the one we deserve. Which leads to the question of how to fix it.

Ex-PH2

Okay, maybe I wasn’t clear on that. There seems to be a real difference between politically-biased news outlets like CNN or the New York Times, and independent reporters who want to simply get the facts of a story without a political bias.
We do need a healthy press to survive, but when it is so biased that it refuses to deliver the truth and buries its head in the sand, it is delivering drivel. There are too many news outlets that will not present both sides of a story, and that is not journalism.

AW1Ed

Thanks, Ex, great article. The “Social Justice Moron Howler Monkeys*” alone was worth the price of admission!

*and very cool of you to credit the coiner, if that’s a word.
*smile*

Ex-PH2

Yes, it was Nicki’s originally. I borrowed it from her.

HMC Ret

I read/listen to those who despise both Democrats but can’t vote for Trump b/c blah, blah, blah. So, here’s your game plan: Stay home. Don’t vote. And come next year, when wideload and/or burnout are continuing obummer’s ruinous policies, come back here to bitch and moan about how screwed up is the country. Yeah, that’s it. Vote with your absence and then bitch and moan. If you have any convictions, you will vote for SOMEONE. And that post about voting for HoR (that seems somehow an appropriate term) and Senate, is spot on. Think ‘things’ can’t get worse? Let one party control the Presidency and both houses. Then you’ll really have something to bitch about.

Akpual

Amen

Silentium Est Aureum

But peace comes at a price and we all know it.

Another quote of Heinlein I am partial to applies: “You can have peace, or you can have freedom. Don’t ever expect both at once.”

Pretty telling from a guy who once considered himself a socialist.

OldSoldier54

Well done, Ex-PH2. I hope you’re correct re: the pendulum thing.

I will be voting for Trump, though he strikes me as a loud mouth frat boy. Clinton and Sanders would disastrous, and voting for Johnson would just give that power hungry murderess the Whitehouse (re: Ross Perot … ).

Thunderstixx

Yes, I concur wholeheartedly, very well written. Bravo, bravo !!!

MAJ Arkay

Very well written, Ex-PH2. Good, clear layout, not one drop of vagueness.

Pat yourself on the back and have another glass of well-deserved wine.

Ex-PH2

Thank you. I appreciate the feedback a lot.

2/17 Air Cav

Come next January, we will have had eight consecutive years of a pussy in the White House. It’s time for an asshole. And we are guaranteed to have one. We just don’t know which one yet.