“Contained”, Eh? Intel Community Says, “Um, no.”
Remember when the current Occupant, 1600 Penn Ave, Wash DC POTUS proclaimed that Da’esh (AKA “ISIS”) had been “contained”? You know, that proclamation that occurred shortly before the Paris terrorist attacks that killed 130 and wounded hundreds more?
Remember when the CJCS flatly contradicted the POTUS’s assessment about Da’esh being “contained”?
Well, among those in a position to know apparently it isn’t just the CJCS that disagrees with the POTUS. Apparently, the US Intelligence Community also disagrees. An IC report recently ordered by the White House “says that the ISIS terror group will grow in numbers and territory unless it suffers significant losses in Iraq and Syria.”
Contained? Yeah right. Sounds to me like the report says they’re getting stronger. Maybe “contained” is simply this Administration’s Doublespeak for “an enemy getting stronger”.
For some reason, the acronym “SCoaMF” comes to mind. And not when I think of Da’esh.
Category: Barack Obama/Joe Biden, Terror War
On a side note, why is the Whitehouse the ONLY place I can find calling them ISIL? Just wondering if anyone can shed some light on that. I mean it’s not wrong. Just seems out of touch.
It IS out of touch, Smitty. Like the UK’s Cameron, it’s a sign that bodaprez does not take them seriously, and most likely never will.
It’s nice to be protected from harm, but his disconnection from the real world is disturbing.
His whole speech was a combination of ‘WTF?’ and head scratching for me.
Guys, ISIL is the commonly used acronym throughout the intel and defense communities. Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant. Really, it is. I work in an intel shop and it’s the standard.
But having said that about ISIL being the standard, that does NOT mean that Obama and his minions aren’t out of touch. They most certainly are.
When Obama said that ISIL was the JV team and al-Qaeda was on the run, I thought WTF over…
Then I remembered the election was coming up. Explained it all.
Maybe its an underhanded jab at Israel. After all Israel did not exist in the Levant, or at least when the term was widely used.
No explanation would surprise me anymore.
And speaking of terms, it seems that Tashfeen Malik is not the terrorist bitch’s name.
“Tashfeen Malik (King) is a nom de guerre for a Muslim Jihadist from the annals of Muslim history. As he is known to Muslims “تاشفين ملك الموحدين” Tashfeen Malik Al-Muahideen, in English: Tafhseen King of the Unitarians (Muslims) and the conquerer of the west. The history stems from when Yusuf ibn Tashfin led the Muslim forces in the Battle of Zallaqa/Sagrajas. He came to Andalusia from Morocco to help the Muslims fight against Alfonso VI, eventually achieving victory and allowing the Muslims to remain in Spain for centuries. The battle has been symbolic for Muslim victory against the Christians.”
This is from http://shoebat.com/2015/12/03/88800/
Great explanation Mustang, thanks.
By using ISIS as an identifying term it gives legitimacy to Israel so we can’t do that. Using Daesh instead of ISIL is really just a way to name call the JV team, because you know a good foreign policy means insulting them, but not much else.
This is what the alphabet soup of agencies in the beltway is currently engaged in; trying to figure out what to call them. Ask any Executive branch agency and you’ll get “ISIL” “ISIS” “IS” or “Daesh”. If you’re too busy struggling to define the problem, then it absolves you of actually having to fix the problem.
Whatever obamanure spews out of the SCOAMF’s pie-hole is now pretty much irrelevant; no credibility or believability whatsoever, none zilch nada…
I wonder if dEar Leader/wannabe Emperor B. Hussein 0bama has become so narcissistic that he now believes that everything he says is automatically true and then hurries off to play golf, head to another fundraiser or on another vacation aboard Air Force one at our expense?
Quit bad-mouthing our Chimp-in-Chief.
Obama:
“What is true is that from the start, our goal has been first to contain, and we have contained them. They have not gained ground in Iraq. And in Syria they’ll come in, they’ll leave. But you don’t see this systematic march by ISIL across the terrain. What we have not yet been able to do is to completely decapitate their command and control structures.”
All this conflating meaning THAT HE NEVER MEANT to the word “contained” bullshit is complete partisan political crap, and the obsessive criticism of his comment is ridiculous.
He was clear what he meant.
Taylor, that’s bullsh!t and you know it. 1. “They have not gained ground in Iraq.” Pure bull. In 2012, Da’esh controlled little or no Iraqi territory. They control a substantial portion of Iraq today. Therefore, they have indeed gained ground. 2. “And in Syria they’ll come in, they’ll leave.” Really? Da’esh has established their freaking “capital” city in Syria at Raqqa, for Christ sake. People that come and go, or who plan to leave shortly, don’t establish purported seats of government. Wannabe nations planning on permanently ruling territory do that. 3. “But you don’t see this systematic march by ISIL across the terrain.” Yeah, right. Ask the Yazidi’s about that. Or the residents of Mosul. Neither were under Da’esh control 3 years ago. ISIS marched in and took those areas. In fact, if you plot Da’esh controlled area, the pattern shows a state of more-or-less steady expansion since 2012, with perhaps periodic planned halts to marshal resources and build new strength. Sounds pretty damn systematic to me. 4. “What we have not yet been able to do is to completely decapitate their command and control structures.” The implication here is that killing/capturing/disrupting their leadership is all that remains to be done. That’s clearly not the case, and if you believe it is – then I want some of whatever it is you’re smoking. Because that must be some really good sh!t. The CJCS says yer man-crush hero Teleprompter Man was wrong in saying we’d contained Da’esh (AKA ISIS). The Intel Community now says the same – and as I recall, your previous comments indicate you put much stock in the IC’s opinions. And if that wasn’t enough, Paris occurred shortly after the asinine statements you quote above. Being able to reach out some 2000 miles and kill 130 while wounding hundreds more is hardly evidence that the threat posed by Da’esh had been “contained”. Give it up, Taylor. On this issue, your “Fearless leader” is completely “out to lunch” – just like he’s been virtually 100% of the time in dealing with US foreign policy issues since taking over in… Read more »
Hondo, the context of the conversation is recent events. Have you even bothered to read the interview you are so obsessively outraged about?
Of course the President knows ISIS gained ground since they began, but that gain has stopped. That is what he was referring to.
It is pointless to argue if you are going to not take the comments in context. If you are going to keep acting like every phrase exists entirely in its own universe and you get to assign meaning to it based entirely on your assumptions than a discussion is a waste of time.
What is the point of your issue with this anyway? Are you seriously trying to claim that the President does not know what the fuck is going on with respect to ISIS? He knows exactly as much as the intelligence community shares with him and they share everything they have they that is relevant to making decisions.
This nitpick bullshit is idiotic. He made a ill-timed comment. If there had not been a Paris attack the next week attributed to ISIS this comment would not have even raised an eyebrow and sure as shit would not be a political football used to outrage idiots.
And yes, I consider you an absolute fucking idiot if you are outraged about what he said in this interview.
He was speaking about ISIS in a specific context, at a specific time, with the information he had at the time.
And what he said was reasonably accurate at that moment in time within the context, and based on what he meant with his words and not what others are choosing to interpret his words to mean.
Let’s see, Al Qaeda is on the run, General Motors is alive and ISIS is contained? That’s how this clown manages national security.
Then there was the Mid-East Apology Tour, pretty sure that gave the Muslim Brotherhood the warm fuzzies. Then, the Arab Spring.
I’d bet that Buh-rock is still pissed that the MB’s pick got his ass tossed out of office. Then, there was that resounding success in Libya, and the Red Line in Syria.
Those are just some of his “successes”.
I forgot a dandy of Buh-rock’s, that beheadings, shootings and burning people alive are bad, but
global warmingclimate change are the real problem.I do not believe he does not know they are not contained, I feel he is simply lying about it and expects the US citizens to believe the horseshit. I am still wondering if you have been and are taking Adderol.
Well, let’s review Teleprompter Man and his Administration’s record of “success” in foreign policy. Here are the results of his Administration’s policies: (1) a formerly relatively stable Iraq now staggers on the brink of collapse; (2) a dramatic worsening of the situation in Afghanistan; (3) the rise of Da’esh as a quasi-state entity and a major regional threat; (4) a destabilized situation in Syria, now with multiple outside interventions, where before the situation was stable; (5) a deal that gives away the farm, nuclear-wise, to Iran; (6) the squandering of much goodwill among our central/eastern European friends by summarily pulling out of previously agreed missile defense arrangements; (7) a stable regime in Libya that was cooperative with the West being replaced by a Balkanized situation where parts of Libya are de facto governed by al Qaeda associates; (8) the overthrow of stable, pro-western regimes in Tunisia, Egypt, and Yemen via tacit support for ill-advised Arab Spring uprisings (only the Egyptian military prevented that nation from becoming dominated by Islamic extremists); (9) talking big, then backing down (if not turning tail) when Russia told us to p!ss off during the ongoing Crimea/Ukraine standoff; (10) failed on numerous occasions to call obvious terrorism by Islamic extremists exactly what it is – Islamic extremist terrorism; and (11) Utterly failed to secure the nation’s borders, allowing God only knows how many terrorists and/or persons with terrorist ties to enter the US, either clandestinely or openly. I’m sure there are more real foreign policy “winners” that this DC clown krewe Administration has executed (e.g., screwed up by the numbers), but 11 is enough for starters. This is IMO a record of foreign policy failures unprecedented since the Carter Administration, if not during the whole of US history. Frankly, IMO even Carter didn’t screw up US foreign policy this badly. And Carter was responsible for the collapse of the Shah and the rise of Khomeini in Iran – which ultimately led to the rise of Islamic extremism throughout the Middle East. Oh, and on top of all that: the US economy is in the toilet, with… Read more »
Honestly, I think it’s number 3. I don’t think he’s a Muslim, but he clearly wants to give Muslims the keys to the country.
I hope his arse tastes good, Taylor. That was a magnificent display of apologist cant.
The 120 murdered citoyennes of Paris disagree. It’s pretty funny you dismiss the attack, as it’s not an inconvenient interruption of the narrative, but proof that Obama is bad at his job.
I have to echo others, and wonder why you even come here. You used to occasionally make a sane argument, but lately you’ve turned in to an Obamaphile lap dog, mindlessly regurgitating the official party line.
Somehow, Lars is able to get projections of what the resident p*$$y is thinking, hence he knows precisely what context he means.
It’s interesting, isn’t it? That someone who has no connection to security or the intelligence community thinks he knows more than the people who are actively working in it, and are saying, in plain English, that ISIS/Daesh is NOT contained, and the threat will continue to grow unless it suffers significant losses.
The fact that there are oil tankers lining up at the Turkish-Syrian border loaded with crude from ISIS-pumped wells, as shown by Reuters last week, shows that they are still finding ways to get funding. The surplus of crude doesn’t faze them, and I thinks it’s a safe bet that the removal by the Saudis of a production ceiling on crude won’t faze them, either.
They have a plan that is working. Looks like they’ll be sticking to it and continuing to expand.
Stop equivocating on the word “contained”.
He was clear what he meant in that context.
It is not the way you are using it.
I do not think ISIS is “contained” if you mean no longer a threat or no longer capable of exporting terrorism.
Neither does the President.
BUT THAT IS NOT WHAT HE FUCKING MEANT WHEN HE SAID “CONTAINED”.
You keep using that word. I do not think that it means what you think that it means.
When you make a speech to the world, you need to use words in ways that convey the meaning that you want your audience to walk away with. If he meant something besides, “unable to act outside their sphere of influence” then he should have used a different word. If his speech was misunderstood, that is not my fault for understanding the word the way that most people understand it, that is his fault for using words in unusual ways and not forcefully explaining what he meant.
If you tell me that your best friends nickname is “shorty” I assume that he is either short or very tall. Context will tell me which you meant. I listened to the context and I think he meant “contained” in the sense that they could not act outside their sphere of influence – eastern Syria and west and central Iraq. If he meant something else then he should have explained what he meant.
He said blue, I heard blue, and I think blue. You are having a hissy fit because you think that I should have heard blue and think green. No.
I have raised a bunch of teenagers and, while it is a little hard to remember, I once was a teenager. All teens seem to go through a phase where they say things like “to me, blue means red … I can change the definition to anything I like”. Eventually teens get over this. You and Obama need to get over this.
Nonsense! When Humpty Dumpty uses a word it means only what he wanted it to mean, nothing more and nothing less.
Did you stomp your feet when you yelled “But that is not what he fucking meant? You’re the same as that ditzy teener who cried “Leave Brittney alone”.
As SCoaMF likes to say, “words matter.” He loves to parse his words. All we’re doing is applying logic and common sense to his claims.
You, on the other hand, have been reduced to quibbling over what “is” means.
Martin Luther King said perception is reality. So rebardless of your repeated explanation what do most people think of when they hear the word contained? Playing semantics is akin to the liberals criticizing Bush for the Mission Accomplished statement. Give it up; he said something stupid and now is being called out for it. He isnt perfect by any means and screws up every now and then. Deal with it
Regardless!!!! Damn tablet keyboard
And I am still well connected with those in the intelligence community.
Sure you are.
Connected to these nuts….
damn it! I just had Makers Mark go through my nose.
Burns!!!
Your head is firmly connected to your rectum
Kinda like when to congratulate a ship’s crew at the end of their deployment, a banner says “mission accomplished” – you’re saying it’s like that?
That is different! He knew people would take that to mean….. er… Because Neocons…. Um…..
Buuuuuuussssshhhhhhh!
I caught the tail end of a radio news item that said that a big fish ISIS gut was DRT from a strike. Seems I recall someone here predicting that last week? OVER
Brietbart just posted a quote from LTC Raplh Peters on FOX saying:
“Mr. President, we’re not afraid,” Peters said. We’re angry. We’re pissed off. We’re furious. We want you to react. We want you to do something. You’re afraid. I mean, this guy is such a total pussy, it’s stunning. We, the American people, who he does not know in any intimate sort of manner, we want action. We want action against Islamic State.”
Awesome.
Well, sj, he also thinks we’re low on gas and oil so he’s mandating bumping up the amount of ethanol in fuel supplies, too.
I said something it on the WOT, but this additional info – Saudis removing the oil production ceiling – came up today.
http://valorguardians.com/blog/?p=63139&cpage=1#comment-2747303
There is a glut of gas and oil, but he thinks that fuel supplies have to be stretched. It’s not just being a pussy. He is completely out of touch with the real world.
Obama is not afraid.
That is nonsense.
He is just not an idiot.
And if anyone is a afraid it is idiots like Peters that fear monger constantly about Islam and terrorists.
‘…that fear monger constantly about Islam and terrorists.’
I would think about 30 people in San Bernadino would disagree with it being fear-mongering — except that 14 of them are dead. Killed by…wait for it… ISLAMIC TERRORISTS.
He is not an idiot. That’s right! He wrote two autobiographies to convince us of that fact.
Yup, according to this administration, anybody who dares point out that the Emperor has no closes, is a “fear monger.” It’s one of their favorite insults, and nearly always stupidly off point.
I’ll trust LTC Peters’ assessments before I’ll trust yours. Yours are nothing but talking points from the DNC and Obama minions, Lars.
Your “hero” has Valerie Jarrett’s arm shoved up his ass; he’s nothing more than her puppet for her ideas on how to run this country, both domestically and in foreign policy.
Millard Filmore and James Buchanan looks like geniuses compared to Obama…
Obama is not my hero. I am not even that happy with Obama.
I am just tired of the relentless idiotic attacks that have no substance or merit.
Since when has B. Hussein 0bama shown any real leadership or concern for the well being of American Citizens, let alone us Vets? He and his administration are bending over backward to bring thousands of Middle Eastern muslims to American soils as fast as they can while handing all they can as fast ass they can to illegal aliens and welfare flunkies while telling retirees there is not enough money for them to receive a COLA adjustment this year, but when has B. Hussein 0bama sacrificed any perk, privilege or luxury since he’s been in office?
I don’t know if Obama is afraid or not and neither do you. I don’t know if he is an idiot or not but but both alternatives seem plausible to me at this time. You are unwilling to accept it as a possibility so your opinion is not objective and therefore not pertinent.
Fear – there are 13 people in San Bernardino who should be alive but are not. Those people had no way of knowing that their lives were in danger so they could not prepare or be somewhere else — same as you or I. Since that really happened it now figures into my everyday existence so I changed some things about the way I live and interact with others. Is my state of readiness and awareness increased? Sure. Am I petrified with fear so that I am unable to eat, sleep, go outside, or almost every other normal activity. Not at all. 13 people were randomly selected and executed. If you are not more aware of your surroundings then I think that you are idiotic. If you want to call me fearful, I think that you are trying to overcome an opinion that conflicts with your own. You want to make me question my conclusions and diminish the influence that my words might have by making me out as a coward and thus a person whose integrity and persuasiveness can be discounted and whose words therefore mean nothing. Whatever. I stand by my statements. Your bullshit is no greater than my bullshit.
He is not an idiot. His IQ is already known to be high based on his known LSAT score range.
Taylor: if you’re talking about Lockwood’s analysis, Lockwood never definitively proved that Obama was either of the two minority high-scorers from Columbia accepted by Harvard. Unless you have some other source, “known” here is not accurate; “likely” is. Please cite a definitive source if you have one.
The same work by Lockwood also indicates his undergraduate GPA was very likely in the bottom 20% of admissions to Harvard Law that year. It’s entirely possible that a high LSAT score by Obama, even if accurate (which it may or may not be according to Lockwood), may well have been be a fluke. Or he may simply be a smart guy who doesn’t really know how to apply himself, or who doesn’t give a sh!t about doing so.
Lars, about 20 years ago one of my best friends was a genius – the real McCoy. His ability in the IT field was not questioned by anyone. But that boy got lost in a parking lot. Obama’s IQ / LSAT score does not make him smart in all fields and many geniuses have personality flaws – they are Gods in one field and hopeless in others. The LSAT is an admission test for entrance to law school. That doesn’t make him a great military officer or a great teacher or a great president. Please note, half of all lawyers are below average.
I said that this tub of flour weighs 5 pounds but it might weigh 6. You said that it could not possibly be six. Apparently I am supposed to agree with you because you say that the container is more than 10 inches high. I think that the measure of weight is a scale not a ruler. It is a lousy analogy but the measure of a president is performance, not his LSAT score. I believe you when you say that he got a good LSAT score. Right now, I’m think that a good LSAT is not a satisfactory predictor of a good president.
Dennis Chevalier had an IQ of 131 as I recall, and a letter from a testing authority to prove it. Ergo, you would defend Dennis Chevalier if he were president.
Why am I not surprised? (it’s a rhetorical question)
Terrorism is an overrated threat and the call for an occupation force or initiating a war with ISlam to stop terrorism is idiotic beyond beleif.
I’m going to drop this in here, because it is a direct quote from Obama’s speech last night. Apparently, Lars was too busy contemplating his navel lint to pay attention to what da Prez said.
‘Tonight, I want to talk with you about this tragedy, the broader threat of terrorism, and how we can keep our country safe.’
And THERE IT IS, in Obama’s own words: the threat of terrorism.
Lars, I do hope that some day you wake up and smell the coffee, ’cause right now, you aren’t gettin’ any.
Ooops! Here it is again, a few paragraphs later:
‘The threat from terrorism is real….’
I guess Lars must have been too busy doing something less important than watching this speech.
Really, Taylor, you are SO out of touch.
Terrorism is an overrated threat – per lars taylor.
Oh. My. God. Taylor, if you do not consider it a very real threat to the entire world, you are out of you teeny, tiny mind.
I’ve said this before, and I will repeat it: Get some professional help with your problem. Maybe you can go see Nidal Hassan and ask him how to get your head out of your anal orifice and your ass out of the sand it’s buried in.
That is by far the most asinine thing you have said to date.
This is all so fucking idiotic.
What the hell do you think a large US ground troops presence would be able to accomplish in Syria?
Would it save lives? Would it end ISIS? What would that look like in 5 years?
People are idiots if they think the reticence to send too many ground troops is out of fear.
We are sending special purpose troops because this is not a fights that can be one with an occupation force.
And Obama is not the only one advising us NOT TO SEND TOO MANY GROUND TROOPS.
“not a fight that can be won”…
probably other errors..
You should concentrate on that thesis.
We do not need to facilitate your grades suffering because you get sidetracked.
Get with it, man!
He’s distracting me from my novel endeavors.
I think he should drop his post-grad program and get a real job in the real world. It would be good for everyone, unless he’s in sales.
Lars’d try, but word is that McD’s is replacing the counter people with touch screen kiosks.
I am opposed to sending ground troops to fight ISIS – given the current ROE. Change the ROE so that ground troops could be effective and I will reconsider.
What if the ROE were simply stated with:
ATTACK !
If you determine it should be killed, Kill it.
It would take 2 weeks, no more ISIS, and a calm peaceful Islam the result.
From Jerry Pournelle:
Frankly, Dave Hardin, I have doubts that standard warfare against ISIS/Daesh will do anything other than annoy them the way mosquitoes annoy us at a good fishing hole.
If you want to stop them, then they have to be scared shitless. Period.
FNC has benched LTC Peters for 2 weeks. Ralph Peters is such a grump. :0)
0bama did skip his golf game Saturday to attend an Intel Brief.
I just thank God that we don’t call it the war on terror anymore, because, obviously, you can’t declare war on a tactic.
// end sarc
I always thought that was odd too, terror is a tactic, not a cause.
All right, who woke up the sleeping pain-in-the-neck?
It was a nice 2 days wasn’t it? Kinda like old times. I had hopes that it was permanent but guess he got all his DNC talking points and guidance for this week. Sigh.
Maybe one of his fellow moonbats told him to resume his crap during their morning Kool-Aid, “Kum-ba-yah” and group hug? *SIGH*, it was nice while it lasted.
I know, the comment section is so much better when it’s just an echo chamber. God forbid a dissenting opinion. Dammit Lars, don’t post anything unless you agree with everyone.
The sad thing is even with all this rage and discontent, it won’t get us anyone qualified in the WH. Everything is shaping up to be a repeat episode of 2012.
There’s always been a lot of dissent here but the difference was it was done without being a flaming asshole. Taylor hasn’t mastered that yet…hell he hasn’t even thought about doing so.
My take on Taylor is like having a boss who tells you to measure a telephone pole.
You do so and report back to him that it is 45 feet long.
He says “No, you idiot fuckwad, I want to know how TALL it is, not how LONG it is.”
Things kind of go downhill after that.
I never mind a dissenting opinion when it offers me a viable option. Ignoring my government which is ignoring terrorists who are coming into my country and murdering my fellow citizens, while telling me I have no right to blame the religion that spawned them, does not strike me as a viable option. Placating countries that harbor a sworn enemy doesn’t strike me as a viable option, either. I don’t argue with Taylor because he’s a dissenting voice, I argue with him because I think his thought process is the very bedrock of why terrorists are running amok all over the planet, and why 14 of our citizens died a week ago.
There’s dissent, then there’s parroting dogma.
Taylor has fallen into the latter camp.
Oh, look……Lars.
:rolls:
Don’t step in it…
I’m afraid I probably did, by posting the article above.
Oh well.
When I first saw your post, I figured it for a health and welfare check on our poor resident grad student.
All right, Hondo. I’m going to send you ALL the talking points articles I found on why bodaprez’s MANDATE (he backed off on mandate) to add more ethanol to fuel supplies is bad. And YOU get to write up the article, and it’s all your fault because you woke the sleeping bottom feeder.
Because it’s YOUR fault, Hondo…
Это правда. Человек не имеет член.
And Jonn’s already said that the only reason he’s still on here is because he’s a veteran. If that’s the case, I think I have a bone to pick with some anonymous recruiter somewhere, for inflicting this…whatever he is…on us.
Jonn doesn’t kick people out just because they might piss the rest of us off. He lets us deal with them on our own. I admire that. That makes us individually responsible for what we post and gives us the freedom to express our own thoughts.
Even Taylor gets it right on occasion. The man seems to be completely aware of his shortcomings, I just wish he would exercise a little more control over them.
Damn, I forgot to post the ‘sarc’ tag again. Of course what you said is correct. I do have to wonder why he went into the military in the first place, though.
I missed the ‘sarc’ part, I spent years in the Corps asking that very thing about recruiters.
I will bet there isn’t a Drill Instructor around that didn’t do it more often than I did.
It takes all kinds to make up the world I guess.
Hey! I once pissed Hondo off.
NIXON!!!
I exposed him as Al Gore once, talk about a Global melt down.
Yer out of date, bud. That would be “Global climate change” today. “Warming” is . . . so uncool. (smile)
It seems they encourage people to go off topic at UC Berkely. Shifting the blame of events clouds their ability to know how to fix whats wrong in the first place.
According to most of the things I read coming out of there, if we stopped Global Warming and did away with the NRA we could bask in World Peace.
The mind is a terrible thing to waist.
http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2015/12/07/uc-biology-professor-caught-on-video-going-off-topic-telling-students-who-they-should-blame-for-mass-shootings/
I’m thoroughly convinced that liberalism is a Mental Disorder and places like UC Berserkely make me think it’s contagious!
As much as I might enjoy, however briefly, public displays of mild mental murkiness on the street corner, my computer is becoming more and more stubborn about allowing me to watch them.
I think it’s afraid it might become infected by whatever they’re spewing. I respect that concern.
Hello? Is this another thread about the genius who shall remain nameless, or can the original topic be discussed? Too late? Oh, well, gonna do it anyway.
It doesn’t take a mental giant in any field to understand that something (like a fire) or some one (like a criminal) can be contained but will remain a danger until it is eliminated or neutralized. A group of terrorists is quite like a forest fire in that regard. A fire can be contained, but if all you do is maintain it eventually a wind will kick up and blow some burning embers somewhere else other than the containment area.
Maybe terrorist were contained at some moment, like when the worst of them were locked up at Gitmo. Releasing them instead of eliminating them kind of screwed up that containment thingy. Same with claiming that terrorists on the loose, being given visas to play terrorist anywhere they opt to play terrorist, and otherwise creating havoc hither and yon isn’t being contained. We know it and the terrorists know it.
Why lie about it, when not lying about it would be so much easier?
You are being Islamophobic. If the NRA was not pushing to allow anyone to get a gun then we would have the problem contained.
Global warming has put stress on the economies everywhere. These refugees are just fleeing to preserve their own lives.
Are you suggesting that we modify the Statue of Liberty to say ” ‘Give me your tired, your poor, your huddled masses yearning to be free, unless they are Islamic, then they can go to where this statue came from.’
Obama has brought hope and change to the world. Just not your part of it. Suck it up and lean to say Allahu Akbar.
Uhm, maybe not. Personally, I don’t care if a terrorist practices Islam, Methodism or no religion at all. Could even be a Martian. It just doesn’t matter, and the variety of terrorist should not matter to anyone with a will to survive.
Oh, sure, when implementing a plan to neutralize a particular threat it is essential to know the enemy.
In the same vein, if an individual approaches me and makes it clear that if I do nothing I will be robbed or killed, I seriously don’t care about the home life, ethnicity, marital status, or anything else about the nut – I will simply do whatever it takes to survive the encounter.
I know, I know. The special little snowflakes among us think we who know what it takes to survive are even scarier than those gunz they don’t want to think about. Whatever.
Do you two know what happened to Robespierre? He hated French royalists and their ilk so much that he slaughtered 50,000++ of them.
Then he got sent to the guillotine.
What does that have to do with anything? Find a way to terrorize the terrorists once and for all.
I clean all my weapons with Lard. Fill my hollow point with it too. I figure the word will get out.
Plus, I surround myself with naked women as much as possible, between those two things I figure Islamic Terrorists will never get near me.
Sounds like a much better plan than what appears to be official policy, Dave.
you do realize that by filling the cavities you are basically making them perform like solids? Keep them cavities clean if you want ’em to expand. (oh, and while the ignorant Muzies could complain about pig fat a la the Dum-Dum Rebellion, I’m told that modern Islam essentially says if you become unclean via an accident like an enemy shooting you wit a pig-fat rubbed bullet, it’s not a big deal because it isn’t your doing. Some Islamic scholar could chime in here… I just hate to see you make your HPs less effective.
I have fallen and I can’t get up!
The battery in my pendant worn around my neck is dead because I have not changed it in 4 years!
However, I am packing a sweet Glock and there are multiple magazines available.
NOTE: Multiple magazines are full to NYS capacity. I pity the terrorist who walks in on me in my diminished state, as I have muscle memory quick load talent that impresses most.
Out!
Earlier in this tome I noted I heard on the radio today that an ISIS MMFIC is now DRT. I seem to recall such a prognostication last week. OVER.
Well, this is just one mans opinion on the matter:
If you want to hear the answer, don’t ask the question.
^^^WORD^^^ What makes it even better is that it pisses off a professional college student that lurks here.
Sometimes, I’m sorry I don’t have a TV any more. I miss the good stuff like that.
But what Mr. Peters says is true: Человек не имеет член.
Close enough, just never name a Russian kid Huey Long.
Well, the government did tell us: “See something, say something…”
And you have to admit the man is appropriately named to offer such an opinion. (smile)
figured it out…
L Taylor is not his real name, its an acronym.
Lurking ticklemonster and yellow liberal, Obama’s relative
Well, while we’re all parsing whether or not POTUS meant ‘contained’ when he said ‘contained’, or whether he only meant ‘contextually contained at this very specific moment in time without regard to the overall trend’ – the Israeli government seems to think they may not be very contained in any significant operative sense of the word. The IDF is practicing scenarios for fighting ISIS on the border. Now they may just be paranoid. Or Israeli intelligence may know something that POTUS either doesn’t know or isn’t publicly admitting. To wit: ISIS is not contained in any serious sense of the word. Maybe they were a few weeks ago. I dunno. But they sure as hell didn’t stay that way for long. Although not all that bothered about it yet, it wasn’t even a topic for consideration in Israel until this past year.
When are people going to do something about this POTUS? He is painting a HUGE target on the US that will take DECADES to get rid of?
Oh, take it easy! He’s doing so much damage to the democraptastic party that it may take longer for them to recover from the embarrassment than the GOPers over Nixon.
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