That “bring back the draft” thing again

| December 30, 2014

Joseph Epstein writes in The Atlantic that he really wishes that the federal government would restart the draft again. A draftee himself, Joseph, writes that his experience justifies the return to conscription that disappeared in 1973;

Under the draft, the American social fabric would change—and, judging from my experience, for the better. I write as a former draftee who served in the Army from 1958 to 1960. I was, in other words, a Cold War soldier, and never for a moment in danger. Much of my time in the military—I worked on the post newspaper at Fort Hood, in Texas, and later as a clerk, typing up physicals, in a recruiting station in Little Rock, Arkansas—was excruciatingly boring.

Yet I am grateful for having served. Doing so took me out of my own social class and ethnic milieu—big-city, middle-class, Jewish—and gave me a vivid sense of the social breadth of my country. I slept in barracks and shared all my meals with American Indians, African Americans from Detroit, white Appalachians, Christian Scientists from Kansas, and discovered myself befriending and being befriended by young men I would not otherwise have met. I have never felt more American than when I was in the Army.

I guess that Mr. Epstein hasn’t been watching the news lately – the military is trying to downsize. There is no shortage of volunteers and there’s no need to force people into uniform at this point. The only reason to reconstitute the draft, with no real national emergency on the horizon, would be if the government intended to make military service unattractive, as the Washington Post suggests in the previous post.

As a private in the Army, I’m sure Mr. Epstein didn’t experience the downside of trying to lead soldiers who didn’t want to participate in the daily drudgery of training – and since he served in non-war years, he certainly didn’t get to witness conscripts involved in combat operations.

Since the Pentagon is wringing it’s hands over the fact that 75% of military-age men and women are ineligible for service for various reasons. How would a draft fix that? It actually means that it would probably be too costly to screen the number of candidates to get to the numbers that would justify conscription.

It was probably the Joseph Epsteins in the country that ended the draft in the early 70s and now they think it’s a good way to spread the misery of defending the country from the vast array of enemies facing the country. It was Richard Nixon who ended the draft and it was Jimmy Carter who brought back draft registration when the Soviets invaded Afghanistan out of fear that he had destroyed the sense of military service so badly that he’d have to force Americans to serve if the Soviets didn’t stop there. You know, after he gave amnesty to draft dodgers on his first day in office insuring that no one would take the draft seriously again.

Of the 2.7 million Americans who served in Vietnam, less than 700k were draftees (out of the 1.7 million total draftees during that war), but judging by the news of the day, one would think that all of the troops in Vietnam were draftees. Less than 18,000 of those draftees were killed in combat there out of the 58,000 total casualties. One might argue that we didn’t need the draft during Vietnam. So why would we need it now, unless, like I said, the Left wants to make military service so miserable that no one wants to join voluntarily.

Thanks to Chock Block for the link.

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Cliff Clavin

Great points, Jonn. Instituting a draft during a period of downsizing and sufficient volunteers means they’ll have to limit voluntary enlistments to make room for conscripts. Can you imagine a young kid being turned away by a recruiter due to a cap on volunteers, but seeing his next door neighbor get drafted? Or doing away with voluntary enlistment altogether? What would that do to the number and quality of Soldiers who make it into the NCO ranks?

Fortunately, the political will to institute a draft just isn’t there. I get why the idea will always get batted around some time, but I just don’t see it happening unless it were part of a massive mobilization like we had in the world wars.

Martinjmpr

The number one reason a draft wouldn’t work is because conscription only works when the nation as a whole supports it. Our nation does not, During the last years of the draft era, deferments were common as support for the war dwindled and there were legions of people in the civilian community – college professors and administrators, doctors, lawyers, clergymen and others – who openly schemed to keep people out of the draft and who were not the least bit apologetic about it. In such an environment the burden of service falls even harder on those who are without the means to resist it, so it actually diminishes the quality of the armed forces and turns it into a semi-slave army of misfits, which is exactly what we DON’T need.

I get that the “civil-military divide” seems to be the hot topic of the day (see also the Atlantic Monthly article called “The Tragedy of the US Military”) but the reality is that this is a complex issue and there is no simple fix or easy solution (not that a draft would be simple or easy, although talking about one certainly seems to be.)

Final point: Regarding those draftees who have fond memories of their forced service, I can’t help but point out that there is an aspect of human nature that the farther we get from a certain time in our lives, the more the bad memories get forgotten and the good ones get amplified. IOW we always see the past through rose colored glasses and the farther back we look, the rosier things appeared. I’ll bet if you’d asked Epstien what he thought about the draft in 1963 you’d get a different answer, one that might include the letters F, T and A. 😉

3E9

Freedom, Teamwork and America?

Devtun

Free Trip to Asia…

David

Fun, Travel, and Adventure

aka Finest Thing Available

Sapper3307

Anybody been to the Frankfurt Tattoo Association in Germany?

CC Senor

No, but I have been to Friedberg Training Area. Elvis had already left the room, though.

A Proud Infidel®™

Find The Answer? Foresight. Thought, & Action? My Dad gave me a t-shirt that says “Whiskey Tango, Foxtrot” in the front, I just yold my kid it meant “Wisdom, Thought, and Foresight!

SGT Ted

The authors of the pro-draft articles and laws also reveal their desire to coerce others by force of law.

TSO

I tried earlier to read it, and my eyes glazed over in the second para.

ByrdMan

You’re better than me.

I fell asleep trying to click on the link.

68W58

Mr. Epstein describes a very different time in American history when he was a conscript. I doubt if a return to the draft would have the same effect on today’s youth as it did on him. There are lots of reasons to oppose a return to conscription-and I read Epstein’s piece as sympathetically as possible-but not many good reasons to favor any such return.

Ex-PH2

While Mr. Epstein may have fond memories of his period of service as a draftee, there were plenty of young men who avoided it by getting married, right up to the last minute of the day that being married allowed someone to be deferred.

Since I was a volunteer, as all women were in the service, I have the same memories and the same experience without having had it forced down my throat.

There was a time when a ‘bad’ kid who was constantly engaged in mischief that might lead him to more serious misbehavior was given a choice of the Army or jail by some judges, and many of them chose the Army and benefited from it. They did, in fact, make very good soldiers, but now, they would be turned down because of their bad behavior.

It might be more to the point if the military were allowed to take these obnoxious juveniles and give them what-for that they can’t escape. If it could straighten them up way back when, why not do it now?

Martinjmpr

The problem with that idea is that turning the military into a minimum security prison or chain gang might be a great deal for the troublemakers, but it’s a pretty rotten deal for the patriotic youth who AREN’T troublemakers.

Ex-PH2

You never heard of ‘special companies’? Separate boot camps?

Martinjmpr

Well, I know the Soviets used to have “disciplinary battalions” but I’m not sure that’s a model we want to emulate. 😉

Roger in Republic

They were a cheap and efficient method for clearing mine fields and assaulting dug in tanks. The NKVD in the rear ranks insured that the survivors remained loyal.

Ozzie 11B

“The Dirty Dozen” was a perfect example. LOL

E-6 type, 1 ea

Two other ideas. One, make enrollment in the selective service mandatory for all US citizens. After this, when the draft is initiated, all the social scientists screaming for women in combat units will suddenly be silent.

Two, make enrollment in the selective service a precursor for state and federal welfare monies.

NHSparky

Drafting an army also means you don’t have to pay them shit, freeing up lots of money (in the lib-rul “mind”, such as it is) for more gimme programs, etc.

Also, consider that in his day, over 10 percent of GDP was for defense. Today, that number is under 4 percent, and falling.

Back in 1960, there wasn’t a whole lot of high-tech. Now, even the “grunts” deal with a lot of it on a daily basis.

Grimmy

One good thing about a new military draft would be…

It’d encourage our cowards to run away to another country.

That’s not a bad thing to have happen, you know.

CAs6

The problem is, they come back…

John S.

Only if you pardon ’em.

FatCircles0311

If you tell them you’re a white Christan male you’ll just be exempt anyway.

In Obammy’s American those are the real enemies.

FatCircles0311

opps.

What I meant is white christian heterosexual.

David

Well, I have to throw in a different view – when I was in Basic, all the drill sergeants but one in our company were Vietnam vets – they unanimously agreed that they preferred draftees to volunteers. They said draftees typically just wanted to do as little time as possible and so kept their noses relatively clean, did their job, and got out. Thy opined that volunteers tended to be prima donnas who expected the world to kiss their ass and thought they were better than the draftees. Can’t say, myself – I think by ’77 all the draftees were out of the system and the Army was 100% volunteer. The world (and society is different now, though.