The Kalashnikov frenzy

| September 1, 2014

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The Washington Post reports that which we predicted about six weeks ago – Kalashnikov Concern products including their commercial version AK-47 have been scooped up by buyers after Executive Order 13662 banned their import in mid-July;

Jay Portz, vice president of RWC, said a run on the Russian-made rifles began almost immediately. While the sanctions didn’t impose any restrictions on sales of the more plentiful European or American knockoffs — and even a Russian variant not made by Kalashnikov Concern — Bunting said buyers learned of the ban on social networks and raced to get the real thing.

Of course, it’s the NRA’s fault;

Gun control advocates argue that buying frenzies are often stoked by the National Rifle Association. In a lengthy message to members after the Obama administration’s announcement, the NRA’s legislative organization said: “We of course recognize the important role that enacting sanctions can have in furthering legitimate U.S. foreign policy interests. However, in this instance the extent to which these actions coincide with the stated domestic policy goals of gun control supporters is more than a little unsettling.”

Four days after the NRA’s statement, The Truth About Guns, a popular firearms blog, proclaimed the AK-47 “buying panic begins,” adding, “Once again, the firearms industry owes President Obama a debt of gratitude.”

Hardly, we’ve seen it all before – the so called “Assault Weapon Ban” of the 90s spurred a buying frenzy of scary-looking black guns, so did the post-Sandy Hook threats of legislation. I even have a new rule – when someone tries to take away my own gun rights, I buy three more. That seems to happen once a year.

The gun sites that I visit, Guns America and Gun Broker still offer some Kalashnikov products, but the inventory seems to be drying up. Prices are only slightly elevated. But I’m not a fan of Kalashnikov products, so I haven’t been paying much attention to it. Conversely, it looks like the prices of ARs have dropped a few hundred bucks, so there’s an upside.

It seems to me that if the gun grabbers didn’t want people to buy guns, they’d stopping scaring people by threatening to ban them. Their incessant yammering about banning guns seems to have the opposite effect. They never learn.

I’d only freak if they banned 1911s, but even New York hasn’t completely banned those yet. Thanks to Chief Tango for the WP link.

Category: Barack Obama/Joe Biden, Gun Grabbing Fascists

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FatCircles0311

Still pissed about this.

That lull right now isn’t going to last long and come 2015 elections the frenzy will be back. Heaven help us is another fucking Libtard is elected. You won’t be able to find firearm related anything again…

HS Junior

Doesn’t change anything for me/Other Whitey; the state of California got to AK’s years ago. Nothing new here.

The Other Whitey

One of the main reasons I like the SKS: the Soviet Socialist Republic of California hasn’t fucked with it yet.

B Woodman

TOW,
Get my email address from Jonn or some other TAH moderator and contact me.
More later. ‘Nuff said for now.

BMW

The Other Whitey

This irritates me on general principle. I’m more partial to the SKS for my 7.62×39 shooting needs, and Kalashnikov weapons rank low on my wish list. But still, this particular targeted sanction will not put a scratch, much less a dent, in Russian revenues. Hell, with that martial adventure of theirs in Ukraine, methinks the service rifle industry is probably booming in Russia right now. This is just a twofold Feel Good gesture by the Glorious Leader. He makes life a little harder for gun owners and can claim he’s “doing something” about Russkie aggression.

And I’m failing to wrap my head around their attempt to blame the NRA. Nowhere did they say, imply, hint, or wink anything remotely similar to, “Go buy AKs!” Even as liberal “logic” goes, that stretches beyond the limits of rationality.

So, fuck ’em.

Farflung Wanderer

Reliable as the AK-47 may be, the AR-15 series, or even the M1 Garand is a better rifle to carry.

Then again, I don’t really know, I’ve never fired one of either.

*sigh* Someday…

The Other Whitey

I’ve tried out all of the above, some more than others, and personally prefer the Garand overall. And while it’s true that my Garand has gotten me laid, I swear that does not bias my preference at all!

HS Junior

My cousin has an M1A in .308 and an AR-15 in 5.56. I personally prefer the AR-15 at the range because the M1A is just so damn heavy. I can control it, but it gets cumbersome after a while.

The Other Whitey

I’m definitely not in the “Man-Mountain” category, but not exactly small either. Granted, my gut accounts for more of my weight than I’d care to admit. But I have no problem whatsoever hefting a Garand or M1A (both may or may not have been in my safe–y’know, before that damn boating accident). I find both to be controllable, accurate, and comfortable all around. I never could figure out why so many people complain about the M1’s recoil. Feels nice and soft to me!

19D1OR4 - Smitty

I agree on the recoil for the Garand. When I purchased mine I was ready for the kick that the 30-06 had given me in the past. I was surprised to find that there is relatively no major felt recoil. Honestly I can’t tell the difference in felt recoil between that and an AR. It does have a lot more muzzle climb though.

Farflung Wanderer

Seeing as I haven’t shot a lot, I don’t know how much recoil would affect me. At the end of the day, I’ve held replica M1s and they weren’t so bad.

I do love accuracy, though, and the M1 is unparalleled in that aspect for its caliber and era.

HS Junior

Sounds about right. I can capably shoot it, but I guess the lighter weight of the AR makes it easier for me to hold my aim.

NHSparky

You might have a bit of an issue with muscle mass then.

We used inerted Garands where the barrels were filled with lead as drill pieces in boot camp. They can get pretty heavy after a while if you’re holding them out in front of you.

But when using a real one, not so bad.

Farflung Wanderer

With that testimony, how can I protest?

MCPO NYC USN Ret.

The AK a great pick up weapon. After friendly forces have expended all their rounds killing the enemy … AK’s typically litter a battlefield. This is one reason why every US front line bubba knows how to operate and maintain the weapon! The AK has been used by our military against thy enemy … More than once.

Ex-PH2

Okay, I’m mystified by something, so perhaps someone can enlighten me.

The AK-47 is a Russian rifle.

So what’s wrong with a Winchester Model 70? Made in America, classic looks, etc.

It’s all just for hunting, right? 😉

Joe Williams

Ex, Win mod 70 isa bolt action (manually operated bolt)verus AK 47 semi-automatic action . AK47 is also magazine fed,more rounds before reloading. AK-47 20 to thirty rounds per mag. When hunting fast moving clean and chemical Deer or feral Hogs. Any semi-auto you can get a second or third shot off and more meat for the table. does that help? Joe

Ex-PH2

Sure, but if you’re short on ammo, shouldn’t you make every shot count? I mean, hit what you aim at.

It should be a contest of skill, shouldn’t it?

AW1Ed

Depends on what one is shooting at, Ex-PH2. The Second Amendment isn’t about hunting.

Hayabusa

Ex-PH2, I assume you’re being a bit playful here, but I’ll give you a straight answer.

The Winchester Model 70 is a fine rifle. (In fact, those Model 70s produced prior to the year 1964 may be some of the best rifles ever produced by the hand of Man). But it is still a bolt-action rifle feeding from a limited-capacity internal magazine.

If you could guarantee me that every gunfight I might ever be in would be at ranges of 100 yards or greater, and against limited numbers of adversaries, a pre-’64 Winchester 70 with a quality optic would be about all the gun I could ever ask for.

But, in the real world, most gunfights are at shorter range, and often feature multiple armed assailants. In those circumstances, and especially in situations involving close quarters combat (i.e., combat at the ranges you might encounter inside your own house), a bolt-action rifle–any bolt-action rifle–is a poor choice.

Frankly, the world is full of a**holes, and sometimes those a**holes need killing, and it would be a shame if you didn’t have the proper tools at hand when you need them.

19D1OR4 - Smitty

Get a M1 Garand and you will never want another rifle

Hayabusa

I love my Garand, but I also love my Springfield Armory M1As. Basically the same action and sights as the Garand, but feeding from detachable box magazines. Perfect.

MCPO NYC USN Ret.

POTUS is the best thing that ever happened to the weapon and ammo industry …

Everytime he opens his yap on the issue me and every other responsible gun owner stocks up!

I would have bought an AK but I live in NY.

My arsenal is fairly complete anyway!

Ta Ta.

Joe Williams

When shooting mutli targets burst into full rflight at the first sound of the rifle firing. Of course my 1st shot is a kill shot.I now have fast disappearing targets that are doing their best not to become a target. As much as I practice with the bolt action I cannot be as fast a semi-auto to eject and chamber a 2nd bullet and aquire a second target. This the reason all modern Armies issure their troops semi-au. Snipers for accuraty use the bolt rifles for long distance shots. Joe

AW1Ed

And as for the vaunted AK reliability, pish. I have a Mini-14 dressed for success, and it eats the same rounds as my AR.

NHSparky

I’m not a huge fan of the AK, but given what this administration want to do to curtail our rights, any gun that scares libtards and phony CPOs is worth owning in my book.

HS Junior

…And prepare to be served with more BS legal paperwork.

MCPO NYC USN Ret.

When are YOU going to stop?

Zero Ponsdorf

Don’t much care about this kerfuffle.

If I had any guns they’d be the SKS. They have many of attributes of the M-1, and they have both a magazine AND a clip.

Thunderstixx

Having owned a Chinese SKS and other manufacturers bolt action rifles the SKS is truly the quick fire route to go.
But if you want one shot one kill, the bolt action is no doubt the way to go.
The Remington model 70 has been used for decades by some of the most prolific snipers in the world.
I had a scoped Mossberg 4×4 for several years6and just loved that rifle. Relatively inexpensive it still was one of the smoothest operating rifles I have ever owned.
I am still good to over 300 yards and my last foray with the rifle on a cold snowy day in January at an outside range I still put all 5 rounds in a circle about 2 inches around at 100 yards.
Damn that was fun !!!

HS Junior

Agreed; I think in some caliber, that’ll be my first rifle. I think that’s one of those rare firearm designs that can simply never be improved on.

El Cabong

The Mosin-Nagant m44 with scope has produced the most high count snipers.

19D1OR4 - Smitty

I believe you mean the Mosin Nagant M91/30. The M44 was never used as a sniper weapon. Hence the permanently attached bayonet.

Twist

Sorry to change the subject but today I’m officially out of terminal leave.

Fuck you Obama you piece shit and fuck you for messing up our country.

I’ve waited years to be able to legally say that and it felt glorious.

Twist

Sorry for the swear words, I’ve been holding that in for a while.

GDContractor

Fuck yeah!

19D1OR4 - Smitty

Still under the UCMJ until you are officially out. Which means either when your terminal leave ends or if you have IRR duty, then when that ends. Just saying.

Flagwaver

Yeah, definitely can’t forget Individual Readiness Reserve obligation for two years.

Twist

Today I am officially retired.

Twist

Thank you

HS Junior

Good to hear, Twist. Enjoy retirement and grandfatherhood!

Hayabusa

I’m not a big fan of the AK, but it does annoy the hell out of me when the government tells me what I can’t have, so I may just go grab a Kalashnikov or two just to tell Big Brother to f#@* off.

ConcernedCitizen

If they threatened a ban on 1911s, I’d actually buy another Colt besides the really one I’ve got that people beg me not to bubba, and actually shell out for that overpriced M45.

Just an Old Dog

How many other companies Make AK knock offs? Seems you will still be able to get one.
Ive never been impressed with them.
Typical Soviet Quanity over Quality crap, made for illiterate 3rd world peasants who cant maintain a weapon or manipulate sights.

Roger in Republic

The only thing an AK-47 has over an SKS is auto fire and they are very hard to own. An SKS with 30 round Mag will fire just as fast as a semi AK and us more accurate. Any gun that you put to your shoulder has got to be more controllable than something only held at two points. An AK without a buttstock is a spray and pray ammo eater. I use an SKS for my Ranch rifle and it is a good varmint getter. Ballistically it is equivalent to a 30-30 Win. and its quick firing action makes it a very effective, short range coyote gun. Perhaps the AK has a little more intimidation factor, but I don’t expect anyone I shoot to even see the gun that gets him.