Update on Middlebury flag incident
The other day, TSO wrote about Anna Shireman-Grabowski who tore up nearly 3000 flags which were meant as a 9-11 memorial and put them in a trash bag at Middlebury College in Vermont. She said she was destroying the memorial because (in her own stupid inability to capitalize and punctuate) “i knew in my core that thousands of american flags should not penetrate the earth where my abenaki brothers and sisters sleep.”
Well, the chief of the Abenaki tribe of Vermont weighs in, by way of the Addison Independent;
Don Stevens, chief of the Nulhegan Abenaki Tribe, called the vandalism “disgusting,” and believes the protesters were acting to promote their own political beliefs.
“We didn’t know anything about this and if we had we certainly wouldn’t have sanctioned it,” Stevens said.
He said that Abenakis do not publicize the locations of their burial sites in order to protect them, and that he has no knowledge of any such sites on the Middlebury campus. Stevens said that even if the site of the memorial had been a burial site, the American flags placed in the earth would not have been a desecration.
“Our burial sites honor our warriors and their bravery,” Stevens said. “Putting flags in the earth to honor bravery would not be disrespectful.”
According to the article, Chief Stevens is a veteran, his father served in the Korean War and his son served in Iraq. So the stinking hippies at Middlebury can put that in their pipe and smoke it.
Category: I hate hippies
I did the Happy Dance over this response by Mr. Stevens.
I hope those douchebag is shamed right the hell out of Middlebury… stupid f’ing idiots, all of them.
I am so glad to see that the Middlebury Community as a WHOLE came together to create that memorial, and again as a WHOLE condemned its desecration.
I say that because I saw a lot of uncalled for attacks on “liberals” for what happened there, when in fact it was both the College Republicans and Democrats who created the memorial together.
Those douchebags who desecrated it were not “liberals”. I know a lot of “Liberals”, many are family members…
They were ultra idiotic dimwitted assholes. I would not even know where to begin to describe them beyond that. Not without going truly overboard with expletives.
Felony Stupid. Oughta be a crime.
but she needed an excuse to feel guilty about being white! her ancestors killed all those people and she has to feel guilty about it by desecrating the memorial of others that have died! how can no one understand her race guilt? dont you know every white person is born feeling guilty for what other people did hundreds of years ago?
seriously, it must suck being white, i feel bad for those people. i think im going to make it my goal today to pat 10 white people on the back and tell them ‘its ok’
I was tickled this morning to read the good Chief’s words. Made me right proud too.
How stupid is that wombyn feminista in her actions? Industrial-strength stupid. By her actions she is assuming (and quite wrongly) that the Abenaki can’t take care of their own burial sites, that they are too stupid to understand “desecration” and need, once again, to have their white betters take care of them.
It doesn’t surprise me that leftists treat Indians like children. They treat everyone else like children. Leftists all share the same genetic flaw. They are the same folks who became hall monitors in school. Folks who feel some primal need to appoint themselves as lords & masters and rule over everyone else.
I see this stuff a lot up here in the Great NW.
Clueless folks. Good point on that job interview comment. though.
Reality and responsibility are strange bedfellows.
I had NO idea the Abenaki were Polish…and good on the Chief for responding the way he did.
@5 – ‘need to appoint themselves as lords & masters and rule over everyone else’ — very much to the point, AW1Tim. Which makes them not one tiny bit liberal at all, if you understand the real meaning of the word ‘liberal’, which mean ‘free’, not ‘overlord’.
I did not see that silly brat’s actions in the light of so-called feminism. It appears to be more the attention-seeking behavior of an attention whore and drama queen. Now that has me wondering if her parents ever once told her ‘Hell, no, you cannot do that’. My guess would be ‘Hell, no, they did not do that.’ I would love to see the brick wall she hits and splatters against when applying for a job.
And anyway, if that little snot really gave a damn about our aboriginal tribes and clans in this country, she’d spend some time as a volunteer schoolteacher at one of the many reservations in this country, spend her own money on shcool supplies, and make sure those children get some kind of basic decent education. She might even be raggin’ at the BIA about squalid conditions on the rez and ‘when are they going to do something about that.’
But that wouldn’t fit her meme of ‘I me this, I me that.’
The left learned long ago that facts and truth are of no consequence when one has a political point to make and a cause to advance. She’ll make a fine college professor one day.
So, according to the story one of the other protesters has the last name “Lickers”, and since this group has given us a window into the lefty mind, I propose we name them in her honor and call them the “window Lickers”. 😀
smitty: Your plan for today actually makes more sense than what the libbies have done to the entire population, as they bred a couple of generations of folks dependent upon gubmint. (And I am sure you are aware that white folks still draw the most $$ from the bank of welfare.)
In response to Chief Don Stevens’ assessment that even if the campus lawn was the site of an Abenaki burial ground, it would not be offensive, as the memorial commemorated bravery, Lickers responded, “His response is that of one person — a lot of people would disagree.”
I believe that young woman needs a paddling.
Lickers did not identify her alleged Abenaki supporters. So Lickers lied. And she and her grabbuttski buddy don’t like this country anyway, so why don’t we help them leave?
I wonder if their parents know what their little darlings are up to… or even care.
Let me see, destruction of that many flags must reach the value of a felony. so, if I were the judge I would probably hand down a sentence of 45 days in jail (to be served over each succeeding Memorial Day, Veteran’s Day, Thanksgiving and Christmas until completed), full restitution for the property destroyed, 200 hours of community service cleaning bed pans in the VA hospital, and five years of supervised probation.
ive already crossed out 5 of them, 5 more to go.
Ex-ph, liberal translates as generous, and in truth they are very generous. unfortunately they are only generous with other people’s belongings and money
Smitty@4,
You made my day. People like you can fix a rainy day.
Ah! We find the spiteful, filthy-minded person who wound up the local emotional basket cases. Her name is Amanda Lickers. She’s the one who admits to spreading the lie about the burial ground, and making the decision to take action about it.
Now, who told her? Where did she obtain her malicious lies?
Chief Stevens, thank you for your service. I have so much respect for you, your family, and your people.
I just wish that the US had a leader that I could respect even 1/1000 as much (and that goes for congresscritters too).
@2- One of the major problems with this country is that there are way too many people that have no shame. They wear their idiocy like a badge of honor. As long as they are leaning to the left, the MSM won’t call them out for fear of their masters.
you are very welcome val
More on Lickers, and some response from some real American Indians to her attempted cultural appropriation.
http://frontpagemag.com/2013/dgreenfield/meet-amanda-lickers-the-canadian-left-wing-gay-fake-indian-who-desecrated-a-911-memorial/
I’m glad to see the responses are bubbling up.
Ms. Lickers assumed that what would be insulting to her “tribe” would be insulting to the Abenaki people. She assumed that “piercing the ground” would be an issue. This shows that for all her talk, she really has no idea about the belief of indigenous people’s other than he own small world. Further, it shows that she doesn’t understand that indigenous people serve in the armed forces in a percentage significantly higher than ther percentage in the populous and that most tribes have their own color guards for various events. Ms. Lickers assumed she spoke for all indigenous people, even from tribes she know nothing about. Clearly she does not. As to the “one man’s opinion” statement, the tribe selected him as a spokesman, who chose her?
Faux Indians… Libs never pretend to be Indians (/sarc)
I’ve served with a few Native Americans and one thing that has always impressed me about them is the pride they have in serving our country and the respect they have for veterans.
Lickers and Shireman-Grabowski are nothing but rabble rousing, womyns studies protestors that will be next in line to run Code Pinko when Madea and her ilk decide to “retire”
I’m back!!! not for long but I’m back! _o/ so chetk this one out .. this made my day thus is why I’m posting it before taking my prescribed “leave”:
“The granddaughter of Chief Leonard Blackie Lampman had this response:
As the granddaughter of Chief Leonard Blackie Lampman let me tell you how I view your desecration of a memorial that holds meaning to me– you have disgraced MY family, MY people, MY heritage, and MY history. Do NOT call yourself sister to me. There are ways to accomplish getting ones point across without being disrespectful and hurtful. Case in point a DOCUMENTED Abenaki burial ground which now hosts a beautiful memorial on the banks of the Missisquoi River on Monument Rd in Swanton/Highgate. You have slapped in the face everything my family has worked for in gaining honor to be able to call oneself Abenaki. You have dishonored the memory of my grandfather a Chief and US Soldier. My Grandfather surely is shaking his head in shame at you supposed educated future leaders of our nation.”
BUUUUURRRNNNNNNN!!!
It is precisely this attitude that the left displays in so many of its causes. “WE know better than you. Don’t tell us that you’re not a victim. WE are wiser and know better! And if you disagree with US, you are merely a tool!” This isn’t about Indians, those in Cleveland or otherwise. This is about a spolied little girl who presumes to know more and have better judgment than the rest of the us. Put her with that chick who did that cute little act in Arlington National Cemetery a year or so ago. Two separate peas. Same pod.
It’s really not even as complicated as y’all are trying to make it out to be. Libbies are only concerned with what THEY want. Anything that anyone says or does which interferes with what THEY want makes us an enemy.
They know no honor. They are incapable of real empathy much less sympathy. They are immature, mostly because they choose to be immature. Clowns like this one are just younger versions of the sKerry’s of the world that we have been forced to deal with for decades.
Spoiled children continue to act like spoiled children until forced to behave otherwise.
She and her ilk are walking vessels full of weapons-grade STUPIDITY!! Disagree with them, and you’re automatically racist, sexist, homophobic, islamophobic,…
@5 I personally prefer “weapons grade stupid”.
Trouble is she got away with it. The damage has been done and not a damn thing will be done to her.
Seems like a little pressure from the school could cause criminal charges to be filed against her. If she is enrolled, throwing her out, with no refund of tuition or fees, would seem in order.
I think you guys are overlooking the one thing that sticks out like a sore thumb: grabbutski and her butt buddy windowLickers weren;t doing this for political reasons. They did this because they are attention whores and drama queens, and nothing else.
Neither of them had done even enough research to support what they were saying. I doubt that either of them could evne FIND an Abenaki or any other tribal burial site, because info about those is kept quiet – for a very good reason: vandalism. I also seriously doubt that they even know anyone of Abenkai descent, at all.
These two have a repeated behavior pattern of being disruptive, disrespectful and uninformed. They pick out something to target, and that’s what they do, and it has nothing to do with real-world facts. If they have any information about something, they dig up maybe one-fourth of it, they get a third of THAT right, and that’s what they go with, and yes, that ‘hey, wouldn’t this be cool’ attitude is a large part of what motivates them.
The backlash can be, and probalby will be, as nasty for these two when they go job hunting as it was when that imbecile made obscene gestures at Arlington Cemetery back in the spring. Remember her?
Name one employer in this country who will knowingly hire someone who is as disruptive and self-serving as these two have shown themselves to be. They are bums and spongers and layabouts. They only thing they really care about is getting themselves noticed. The comparison is the Kardashians, and entire family of do-nothings and slackers.
So basically, the libtards haven’t got a leg to stand on.
I’m thinking they speak with forked tongues.
She mentioned she thinks piercing the ground is desecrating it. Please tell me she never wore heels, She would strike oil.
Methinks yon lady doth protest too much! If the backlash keeps up, the investigation goes the way it should, and the Dean has a sense of justice, Anna will have spent four years in College for nothing. The College does reserve the right to either disenroll you or revoke your diploma if the infraction is severe enough, and this kinda is…. Plus shes a Senior, maybe this will wake her butt ugly ass up, though I highly doubt it
We’re talking about a private liberal arts college in Vermont, do you seriously think they are going to do a damn thing??? LOL
Did you seriously read the statement that the Dean made on 9/11? Did you read the School response to the article? Did you read that they have an active, open investigation, or that a Student filed what amounts to a Police report? Because, it sounds, like the school takes this seriously
@35 I’ll believe it when it comes to fruition!
So the Chief of the Abenaki Nation put an industrial grade beat down on the libtard and her response was “one man doesn’t speak for everyone (sic)”..
Uh…yeah..the Chief of the Abenaki’s does indeed speak for the entire tribe on matters such as these.
Abenaki 1 Libtard 0
@35: Only if the Abenaki’s lean on them a ton. Otherwise you should read up on Middlebury.
One day, Shireman-Grabowski will apply for a job ithe real world.
I hope this follows her.
Stupid should hurt.
So a member of the Iroquois (lickers) is disrespecting the Chief of the Abenaki’s and apparently knows more about his burial grounds than he does? Sounds like war to me.
I believe the facts in evidence should speak for themselves, if they do nothing, then we, as upright citizens should endeavor to keep her m
Name and these articles very close to the top of all search engines for her name when employers go researching her…
She’s a lib, so more than likely would only “work” for those people and/or entities who view this sort of domestic terrorism as a resume enhancer.
The term “liberal” sounds so open and accepting doesn’t it? Sounds like someone who wants people to be free! So ironic that liberals in this country are actually all about controlling every aspect of your life because they are so far superior and wise. What you drive, what you eat, what you can say, what you can possess etc. Liberals are actually the Nazi’s they love to call conservatives. Funny country we live in.
The Lickers woman looks a lot like Phildo.
Just an observation.
When this gets distilled down to its base you have a stupid fat b1tch who committed a theft while vandalizing a temporary memorial. She’s a petty thief douchebag who should be shown little sympathy by the legal system and then incarcerated for her crime.
Time to stop listening to 4ssholes who make sh1t up to suit their idiotic world views.
@30: Nail on the head. Honestly, people like this are no different from the Westboro Baptist creeps or (to a lesser extent, perhaps) PETA: Their whole schtick is to do something that will get their names in the papers by outraging decent folks, and then use that as a platform to spout their political gibberish.
As tough as it is to do, the best action we can take IMO is to ignore them (and this goes for the Westboro folks as well.) Publicity, after all, and “outrage”, are oxygen to their flame. It’s what they thrive on and the way to snuff them out is to deprive them of that oxygen.
Also a bit OT but I’ve always been impressed by the percentage of veterans who are native Americans. Though the liberal expanation would be that they’re destitute and have no other job opportunties, the reality is that many of the Indian tribes are traditionally warrior cultures so it’s no surprise that military service is pretty common among them.
Wife and I had the chance to pass through the Little Bighorn battlefield site on June 28th this past year, which is just 3 days after the date of the LBH battle in which Custer and 5 companies of the 7th Cavalry were wiped out. I was impressed by the number of memorials there, honoring the warriors who fought on both sides of the battle.
@46 one of the best ways to deprive flame of oxygen is holding its’ head down in a bucket of water until the flame stops wiggling…