Veteran’s Guardian in the News
All of us have dealt with the military bureaucracy. Sounds like most have dealt with VA, and a good chunk of us have navigated the VA disability section, for better or for worse. You would think that would be about the worst you could have to deal with – but you would be wrong.
According to “The War Horse” there is a company name of Veteran’s Guardians who “helps” claimants navigate the VA system. Unlike the VFW, Legion, DAV etc. VG does it for money. And in the 8 years since its founding, LOTS of money.
“We have your back,” the company’s website says. “Together we can uncover all the benefits you deserve.”
The one problem with their success story: Veterans Guardian’s business model runs afoul of the law, say lawmakers and attorneys general from across the country. But nobody has been able to stop them.
With no accreditation, the company is charging veterans thousands of dollars for guidance that veterans service organizations and other nonprofits advise vets on for free.
One of Veterans Guardian’s competitors estimated in a 2021 SEC filing that the VA claims consulting market was worth a staggering $73 billion a year.
The reason that the company went to these lengths, Carico’s lawsuit said, was simple: money. The company charged a one-time fee of five times the amount of a veteran’s monthly disability benefit increase. For a veteran going from a 0 to 100% rating, this could amount to up to $4,500 a month—a payout of more than $22,000 for Veterans Guardian. The company charged nothing to a veteran who received no benefit rating increase—but this was rare. In interviews with The War Horse, three former employees said the company “cherry-picked” who to help, turning away veterans who did not have a strong case.
I’m sensing a barrel-bottom enterprise here. But as the estimable Mr. Popeil said…there’s more. Whistlenblowers’ allegations include:
- Claims strategists with no medical background interviewed veterans and quickly assessed which health issues should be listed on their forms.
- The company referred veterans to the same psychologist for remote exams— sometimes conducted by the psychologist’s family members—and mental health forms were auto-populated with identical checkmarks.
- Employees changed scores on depression self-evaluations if they felt the score was too low, sometimes without the veterans’ knowledge.
- Applicants were coached to look “tired and shabby” for appointments with VA medical examiners. They were advised not to shave, told to use a cane or wheelchair if they had one, and to use buzz words such as “depressed,” “sad,” and “no motivation.”
- Veterans Guardian employees routinely tacked on secondary conditions like erectile dysfunction and headaches to a veteran’s diagnosis if resubmitting an application was necessary.
- Employees were instructed to tell prospective customers that VA “could not be trusted to deal with veterans fairly. Misrepresentations may have to be made.”
A whistleblower lawsuit from one of Veterans Guardian’s former employees claims the firm’s business practices are “permeated with fraud and deceit” and cheating the federal government out of millions of dollars. A lawsuit filed by veterans alleges the company “preys on disabled veterans by unfairly and deceptively taking tens of millions of dollars of their disability benefits in violation of federal law.”
According to one of the company’s two founders, Bill Taylor:
But in an hour-long interview with The War Horse, Taylor passionately defended Veterans Guardian, insisting VA’s beleaguered benefits claims system is the real problem. Veterans are paying the price, he said, and companies like his are offering veterans a choice. He said 70% of Veterans Guardian’s clients have already tried to use a VA-accredited free service, like those provided by Disabled American Veterans and Veterans of Foreign Wars, to apply for benefits.
“If they know the free services are there and they’ve used them and they’re still coming to me,” he said, “that tells you that there’s something wrong.”
Reread the quoted section above that on their business practices – sounds like many of these claims didn’t go through because, maybe, they were borderline fraudulent?
Lawmakers in nearly 40 states and Congress have moved to crack down on unaccredited companies like Veterans Guardian that are part of an industry that has only grown since the 2022 PACT Act led to the largest expansion of veterans benefits in decades. And the Department of Veterans Affairs warned the firm back in 2019 in a cease and desist letter that it “is prohibited by law from assisting Veterans in the preparation, presentation, or prosecution of their VA benefits.” A congressional oversight panel rebuked Veterans Guardian three years later for denying such a letter even existed.
But instead of backing down, the Pinehurst, North Carolina-based company is spending millions of dollars to fight back—an indication, experts say, of just how much money is at stake in the highly politicized world of veterans benefits. The War Horse
You really should read the original article. Take your blood pressure meds first, though.
Category: Veteran Health Care
Much against my advice, my brother used them and the article is dead on, they are blood suckers. Fortunately for my brother, it didn’t cost him anything. But they are parasites nonetheless. A good VSO rep will do far more.
Everytime I read shit like this: I’m so glad I had a GOOD VSO and Navy Doc (prior enlisted Corpsman who commissioned) that handled my claim during my retirement process: I retired 7/31, claim went up 8/1 and came back fully developed at 100% P&T in 17 days….
This is some Phil Monkress (CEO of All-Points Logistics) and All-Points Logistics shit right here!
Irony is that they seem to win.
A lot of the VSO’s are in league with the VA.
Hell, in my state, the VFW partners with state VSO reps.
If that ain’t a COI, what is? The “game” is not to upset the apple cart.
But yet we have a few General Discharge motherfuckers taking home bank.
…Irony can be pretty ironic sometimes.
But I’m sure VSOs “playing it safe” has nothing to do with win/loss performance bonuses.
Hack Stone is willing to bet his paycheck from a proud but humble woman owned business that sells overpriced and outdated software to the Federal Government, all $13, that this company is making substantial contributions to a few slimy politicians and have relatives of said slime on their payroll as “consultants”.
Buzzards!
Meh.
I’m a free market kinda guy.
I’d prefer if scammy used auto lots didn’t surround military installations either, yet here we are.
And MF the national VFW. I hope they collectively all stub their toe today, and every day.
Yep…and a “Buyer Beware” kinda guy, too. These doods have taken a page from all of SSI lawers out there, gaming the system. Scammers gonna scam. Nature of the beast.
I met a guy that used them a couple of years ago to get 100% Rating. He encouraged me to refile with them. I didn’t do that. In 2008 I attended a class by a lady who had experience with VA claims at Little Rock AFB. I filed my own claim following her instructions and received 60% rating in less than 60 days back then – did I leave money on the table maybe but I was dead sure that what I filed on was accurate with no embellishment. I have met several guys who have used the DAV as well to get to 100% and their stories were questionable in my opinion. Touchy subject I know. To not judge – I know but I know guys with worse conditions than I that didn’t even file a VA claim. Charging for a service that is free does seem a little wrong and their success rate makes it look like the claims could be questioned. I also read where they paid a ton of money lobbying the swamp.
If you have a legit claim you should be able to file for yourself. My claim was approved in five days. Filed on a Monday received notice on Friday. Some claims may need some help from a VSO. My local VSO said I should have let them help me, because they get funding for outreach. To help spread the word about benefits. Filing online was fast and simple. These claim companies are just ripping tax payers off and veterans too.
In my experience, I have met very few VFW/DAV/AL ‘service officers’ who were at all qualified. Most titles/positions were given to someone who was willing, skills, knowledge irrelevant. Worse than useless.
I’ve also known and worked with a few VSO’s who were very good – competent, knowledgeable, dedicated and discerning – meaning not padding bogus or questionable claims.
I’ve also seen a couple of these for-profit services. Without exception, those who have been rightfully denied are the ones getting filed and often successfully, by these clowns. I was even offered a job by one of these jokers, at a six-figure salary with “bonuses”. Almost lost my ladylike composure.
As long as the VA continues to hand out pills for the P T S and D with no concurrent competent mental health therapy requirement; as long as the VA continues to pay Category 6, 7 & 8 veterans, the VA will remain broken. We can all thank Obama for “if you ever wore the uniform, you deserve care at the VA”, i.e., taking hundreds of thousands of dirtbag losers off Medicaid and dumping them on the VA, the system will remain broken.
Problem is that VA at most will be minimally compliant… for example, I’ve had two knees replaced, and VA NEVER suggested I needed to get increased compensation. Filing them made an instant difference of 40%. Talked to a VSO this week who pointed out four additional service related compensable issues, again that no one at VA has ever suggested filing on – despite treating me for them.
I’m not surprised. My VSO actually works for the VA. Fallujah vet. My company ops chief, a MSgt, was his Company Guns in Fallujah. Small world.
I remember him, shortly after asking how my VA claims looked, explaining that his favorite part of his job was, “…fucking over my employer to get my brothers and sisters the health care they’re due.” He’s an honest guy, won’t process a fraudulent claim, just seriously angered at the amount of hoops he had to jump through without help to get his well-documented claims approved by the VA. He didn’t have help a decade and a half ago. The system wasn’t there.
Some VSOs are good. Unfortunately they’re necessary, too, because the VAs fiscal responsibilities have a massive COI with getting us the care we were promised. And now we have to deal with scambait “VSO” organizations that help fraudsters get their claims approved, and the ones who are truly screwed over are us.
I filed my disability claim last year, in due time, after I was sent for a physical with the VA’s choice of examiner, my claim was denied. Little did I know that the contract service’s NP was, of course, far more knowledgeable about my bad back, nerve damage and subsequent back and leg pain, than my neurologist and neurosurgeon. Fortunately, the service provider was wise enough to realize that I didn’t need a CT Scan and MRI to be sure there was nothing wrong with my back.
Now I’m scheduled with another exam to determine if I really had a back back. Unfortunately, it will likely be with the same NP who said I had no issues with my back last year.
At least my VSO has everything lined up for the appeal after I get denied.
Been there, done that
x 2. Working with a law firm but that doesn’t seem to be going anywhere presently.
I will be retiring within 3 years, so I guess I need a good VSO.
Any recommendations for South Florida?
You’ll probably just have to ask around. Groups that come immediately to mind are the Legion, DAV, VFW and ask at VA. In Texas sometimes there is a county VSO positions – I was fortunate enough to be referred by VA to the county guy. I noticed his info was even posted at the Legion in the next city two counties over, so he seems to have a good rep.
I don’t know if they still offer the programs but the Little Rock AFB offered a class on how to file your claim in 2008. I would check with the AFB in Tampa to see if their version of out processing offers something like that. My claim went through unscathed.
A Bernathian wet dream.