And you thought Iron Man and Starship Troopers were just movies

| September 15, 2022

There are multiple articles out about the new Rostec body armor, which they say “will stop .50 BMG bullets”!  They mean .50 BMG from our beloved Ma Deuce, the longest serving machine gun in history, designed late in WWI, adopted in 1933, and still in enthusiastic use today.

While Rostec’s official release was vague regarding the specifics of the new system, Ozdoev had previously stated the fourth-generation Sotnik armor will consist of lightweight polyethylene fiber and armor plating that is engineered to withstand a direct shot from a .50 caliber M2 Browning.

The Ratnik suit, which consists of 10 subsystems and 59 individual components, includes body armor designed to withstand 7.62mm rounds, a helmet with a special eye monitor outfitted with thermal night vision and integrated communications.

The current generation of their body armor, the gen3 Ratnik,  has actually had field testing in Syria and is  supposed to stop 7.62 bullets. Some internet commenters seem to agree that while it will deflect angled 7.62 NATO, that 7.62x57mm, aka .30-06, blows through it handily.  As of now, they are still drawing up specifications for the Gen4 Sotnik armor:

While Rostec’s official release was vague regarding the specifics of the new system, Ozdoev had previously stated the fourth-generation Sotnik armor will consist of lightweight polyethylene fiber and armor plating that is engineered to withstand a direct shot from a .50 caliber M2 Browning.

I suspect many of the readers will confirm that being shot in a protective vest is like getting hit by Albert Pujol’s bat: you can spread the impact over a wider area, but the energy transfer from bullet to vest is pretty much non-negotiable. That’s from the impact of a sub-1000 ft/lb energy handgun bullet – the .50 BMG carries more like 6.5+ TONS of muzzle energy. Unless they have figured out a good way to avoid damage from getting hit by a F250, it’s gonna leave a mark.

Compared to Russia, the United States military’s attempts to build high-tech battle armor have lagged way behind.

The Army has been working for years to develop robotic exoskeletons that enhance soldiers’ physical capabilities, but Task & Purpose reports that they’re not nearly as advanced — or thoroughly tested — as what Russia has been able to build.

MenaFN, all above quotes

Not to worry, the Army is developing their own exosuit:

Called the Soldier Assistive Bionic Exosuit for Resupply, or SABER, the 3-pound suit — the product of a partnership between the Army and Vanderbilt University — is built with weight-bearing technology that relieves the burden of back strain and endurance among troops.

The device works as a harness that can be strapped around a service member’s arms and legs. When a soldier presses a button on the suit, the straps are activated to lessen the burden of lifting heavy objects, the Washington Post reported.

Army Times

Absent the hyperbole of the Russian claims, while we have been working on a glorified weight belt, Rostec has been working on something a wee bit more advanced. Maybe in memory of another ‘race’ they could call their suits “Sputnik”?

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President Elect Toxic Deplorable Racist SAH Neande

What was said above about force.
Can’t make it disappear.
Gotta go somewhere. Guess where?
Tag! You’re it!

Me love you long time, eh?

USAFRetired

We used to joke about the fact that the seats in our airplane were manufactured and installed to meet a 16G forward crash load. Unfortunately my body was only built to a 9G limit.

So the 50 BMG round won’t penetrate but I’m not sure how much energy my body can absorb from the round

MI Ranger

Yeah, its all about the physics!! The first person that demonstrates a working version of “Doctor Who: Innertial Brakes” will be rediculously wealthy!
I would refute also that the US is way behind in body armor. Size, weight, stopping power have all been rapidly reduced (except stopping power which has been increased) and I would take a US made plate set over anything made in Russia or China if money and politics had nothing to do with it!
What the folks from our secret labs have been showing publicly is much more impressive than any of this vaporware! This doesn’t even include the 40-60% that we don’t disclose!

Anonymous

Why solid shot is still a useful round in armored warfare.

Fyrfighter

“but I’m not sure how much energy my body can absorb from the round”… Ooooh, it can and WILL absorb ALL the energy.. the question is will you survive that..

USMC Steve

Everyone seems to forget that even if the slug does not penetrate, the force it carries with it isn’t going to just go away. The shootee is still going to be damaged significantly by the many foot pounds of energy the body armor has to take on. They will likely still become a casualty.

Eggs

Those suits might keep those 9mm rounds from blowing people’s lungs out 😆, so they have that going for them.

11B-Mailclerk

Maskirovka

ninja

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Send them to Plastic Pelosi and Paulie’s place as well as Ole Joey Boy’s Beach home…and don’t forget Chuckie Schumer, Sandy Cortez, Aunt Maxine and ESPECIALLY Alejandro Mayorkas!!!!

“Breaking: Two migrant buses from Southern Border just arrived outside Kamala Harris residence at Naval Observatory in DC.”

https://twitter.com/realmacreport/status/1570370810849775619/video/1

A Proud Infidel®™️

It’s also been said that Florida Governor Ron DeSantis has sent two airplanes of illegal aliens to Martha’s Vineyard!

ninja

Check this out…

“NYC helping migrants who were bused from Texas relocate to other states”

https://www.fox5ny.com/news/nyc-helping-migrants-who-were-bused-from-texas-relocate-to-other-states

“New York City officials claim that many of the migrants who are being bused from Texas did not want to go to New York so they are helping them get to other states.”

“Commissioner Manuel Castro says that a lot of the migrants are fleeing Venezuela.”

“Castro says, “Many want to go to places like Florida where the largest community of Venezuelans live.”

“He says they have family and community ties in Florida.”

“We’re helping them get to their actual final destination,” Castro says. “We’re doing our best.”

jeff LPH 3 63-66

1-Why did Batista hate his Wife
2-Answer- she slept on a Castro

MI Ranger

Yep, Ron took credit. https://www.foxnews.com/politics/ron-desantis-sends-two-planes-illegal-immigrants-marthas-vineyard
but the story says the 50 immigrants will get houses, and jobs, so they may have hit the lottery!

FuzeVT

Reminds me of the Kelly gang in Australia and the North Hollywood shootout. Neither of those ended well for the guy in the armor.

Anonymous

“Aim for the heart, Ramon!” from a Winchester with .44-40 sucked for Clint’s character.

5JC

Not sure this will be enough to convince the young Russian cubs to sign up for another tour.

Best video putting Putin in it and let fly a few 12.7 rounds at her to demonstrate how well it works. It will either be comedy platinum or the Russians win the war. Win-win for Russia I say.

MI Ranger

I’m thinking lots of replay as Russia publicly executes its failed leader!

Anonymous

Hey, Putin’s going to recruit at girls’ schools now:

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KoB

Seeing some of those Starship Troopers in their Shower Suits made an Iron Man out of me. Well…a certain part of me.

The only metal suit I would want to be wearing when receiving Ma Deuce sized rounds would be an M109A6 Paladin version.

5JC

Just make sure you button up!

President Elect Toxic Deplorable Racist SAH Neande

Are we sure this isn’t a video game?
TO have TWO bombs drop right into open hatches? What are the odds?! Best go buy some PowerBall Lottery tickets, STAT!

USMC Steve

Hey look. A Russian tank in its natural state – burning.

jeff LPH 3 63-66

Tanks for the youtube tank being demolished

Hack Stone

That’s what you get for not completing your Diversity, Equity & Inclusion training.

Sapper3307

Some Russian body armor tested in Ukraine.
SFW, junk
dzA0-ah8u-o

President Elect Toxic Deplorable Racist SAH Neande

Love the Pikachu and 82nd Airborne patches on the Ukrainian troop’s vest! (seen near the end of the short video)

SFC D

I had a supply SGT tell me the ESAPI plates would stop a .50 BMG. My response was you’ll still be just as dead, just less of a mess. Some people just don’t understand basic physics.

Hack Stone

But at least your funeral will have an open coffin.

ninja

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“Former Las Vegas-based Air Force commander accused of grooming, raping child repeatedly, report says”

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“A former Las Vegas-based U.S. Air Force commander facing felony sex charges is accused of grooming and then repeatedly raping a child.”

Kevin DiFalco faces seven counts of lewdness with a child under 18, and one count of child abuse or neglect.”

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ninja

And It Gets Better!

He was chosen in 2017-2018 to be part of the Princeton Student Fellows Program!!

https://ciss.princeton.edu/student-programs/student-fellows-program/2017-2018-fellows

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Since then, he has served as an instructor at the United States Air Force Weapons School, joint operational planning expert, joint/coalition integration expert, and as a scheduler for the largest and most complex flying operation in Air Combat Command.”

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ninja

“He was recently an Air Force nominee for the NASA Astronaut Class of 2017. With 297 combat hours and 1,800 total hours flying the F-16, Gator has supported contingency and deterrence operations in Southwest Asia, Europe, Africa and on the Korean Peninsula as a weapons officer, mission commander, flight leader and Combined Air Operations Center liaison. Following graduation from the Woodrow Wilson School, he plans to continue his service in leadership roles throughout the Air Force. Gator spent his summer finishing
duties at Nellis Air Force Base and visiting family while traveling to Princeton with his wife and three kids.”

Wife and Three Kids….🙄

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ninja

The Family always suffers…and the big question is WHY?

Remember this Air Force Colonel, Mark Visconi?

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ninja
Fyrfighter

Boulder….

Anonymous

COL “Bat” Guano had it right:
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11B-Mailclerk

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5JC

I guess now is a good of time as any to mention that the Russian Army is in complete collapse, unlike anything seen since 1942. The 1st Guard Tank Army (essentially their Tier 1 Armor Unit) is reported to have fled the battlefield leaving their tanks behind. Losses thus far in the war are estimated in the 70-90K casualties range.

The Ukraine military with tens of billions in Western Weapons and lots of intelligence has recaptured much of the country and is pressing down hard. There is talk of retaking Odessa. For a NATO proxy war the Puting is likely having serious regrets.

A lay down:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oTYDzSrSGgM

Some analysis:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qbbfKAmghb8

They are totally NOT going to cut this guy’s balls off and send him home. (SFW)

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President Elect Toxic Deplorable Racist SAH Neande

Western Rifle Shooter’s Association website periodically would put out “hips and head, head and hips”. And this was in the days before the improved body armor. But the basics still apply. Even with body armor & helmet covering those places, if you hit someone there, they’re going DOWN!

ninja

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“Colorado police officer accused of lying, forging military documents on job application”

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“An Erie, Colorado police officer has been fired and is facing felony charges after investigators say he lied about his military background and forged documents when he applied to the department.”

“Joseph Tymon Watts-Johnson, 35, is facing charges of forgery and attempt to influence a public servant, both felonies.”

“Watts-Johnson applied to the Erie Police Department in 2021. During a final interview in December 2021, Watts-Johnson said that he served in the military and completed ranger school as well as airborne and air assault schools.”

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ninja

“But in January 2022 Erie police Chief Kim Stewart reviewed Watts-Johnson’s DD 214, which documents military service history, and she saw there was no information on his form about being a part of the Army Rangers, Airborne or the Air Assault Division.”

“When asked about the discrepancy, Watts-Johnson said his ex-wife had destroyed his documents but that he would get the necessary forms backing his statements.”

“But in June, Watts-Johnson had yet to provide the documents even as he had graduated training and was working as a solo officer.”

“On June 28, Watts-Johnson provided a new DD 214 form that had additions. But police noticed editing mistakes that made them question the legitimacy of the document.”

“In an interview with investigators on July 12, Watts-Johnson said he used a friend’s resume template to apply, but then realized that led to some errors. He then admitted to forging the military forms.”

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jeff LPH 3 63-66

I guess Watts didn’t know watts going to happen when he got busted, and all I have to say is watts wrong with watts to pull a stunt like this and thinking of this, I have to change a couple of 60 watts light bulbs on the porche.

President Elect Toxic Deplorable Racist SAH Neande

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KoB

What kind of lights are on your Porche, Jeff? You got the Projector, LEDs, Euros, or the Halos?

Watts may see the light when he meets a new Johnson in Cell Block C.

Hack Stone

He resigned, and the last that anyone saw of him was in the direction of Merritt Island, Florida.  😉 

Anonymous

F*tard

SgtBob

Physics. Physics. Physics.

ninja

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“Vice President Harris ignores question on migrants arriving outside residence after ‘secure’ border claim”

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“Vic President Kamala Harris refused to comment Thursday on the two migrant buses from Del Rio, Texas, that arrived outside her residence at the Naval Observatory in Washington, D.C., just hours earlier.”

“Over 100 people who were picked up in Eagle Pass, Texas, were sent by Gov. Greg Abbott. The group includes migrants from Venezuela, Uruguay, Colombia and Mexico. Multiple migrants, asked by Fox News Digital, said they think the border is open, contrary to what Harris said Sunday during an interview.”

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ninja

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Anonymous

Adds his expert input again like he did about Counterterrorism in 2015:

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ninja

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“Facebook provides the FBI with private conversations which are protected by the First Amendment without any subpoena.”

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Anonymous

Farcebook is an un-American leftist sh*tshow.

Graybeard

If I can find it, I’ll post a linkey, but I saw a video of a helmet that would “withstand a .50 BMG round”
They put the helmet on a wood fencepost, stood off at a reasonable distance and fired a round of .50 BMG at it.
It tore the top of the fencepost off, but the round did not penetrate the helmet!
Doesn’t take much imagination to visualize what would happen to your head in that situation.

The best thing is to see the other guy first, and not go prancing around in the open. Especially if the other guy’s got a .50 BMG rifle or Ma Duce. Then give coordinates to dear ol’ KoB and let him play one-upmanship with them.

Skivvy Stacker

But…..can these suits slow down the rounds that come blasting out of the AR-15 at Warp 2?