Judge doesn’t understand the meaning of “worldwide deployability”

| April 12, 2022

A federal judge, and a panel of the 4th Circuit of Appeals, think that having HIV shouldn’t be a bar to continued service. Even after the military argued that deploying to a combat zone with HIV could be problematic, the judge(s) disagreed. For now, the Air Force won’t be able to kick out two servicemembers with HIV they were attempting to discharge, and the DC National Guard will not be able to deny a commission to a soldier who wants to be a JAG.

My favorite part of the article is the plaintiff’s argument that being in combat with HIV poses minimal risk. I’m sure having a femoral arterial bleed or any other major wound won’t pose a risk of transmission. With all the COVID protective measures of the last two years, it’s interesting that this debilitating and deadly disease is so casually tossed about as a non-concern. You don’t want the experimental COVID vaccine? See ya later, science denier. Have a disease that requires constant medical attention, has no cure, and poses a risk of transmission in a combat environment? It’s “any understanding of HIV that could justify this ban is outmoded and at odds with current science.”

From Military Times;

U.S. service members who are HIV-positive cannot be discharged or barred from becoming an officer solely because they’re infected with the virus, a federal judge in Virginia ruled.

Advocates say it’s one of the strongest rulings in years for people living with HIV.

The cases involved two service members that the Air Force attempted to discharge, as well as Sgt. Nick Harrison of the D.C. Army National Guard, who was denied a position in the Judge Advocate General (JAG) Corps.

U.S. District Judge Leonie Brinkema said in a written order dated April 6 that her ruling bars the military from taking those actions against the plaintiffs and any other asymptomatic HIV-positive service member with an undetectable viral load “because they are classified as ineligible for worldwide deployment … due to their HIV-positive status.”

Peter Perkowski, an attorney for the plaintiffs, called it “a landmark victory — probably the biggest ruling in favor of people living with HIV in the last 20 years.”

“The military was the last employer in the country that had a policy against people living with HIV. Every other employer — including first responders — is subject to rules that prohibit discrimination based on HIV status,” he said.

The Department of Defense did not immediately respond to an emailed request seeking comment on the ruling or whether it intends to appeal.

The airmen, identified by pseudonyms in the 2018 lawsuit, argued that major advancements in treatment mean they can easily be given appropriate medical care and present no real risk of transmission to others.

In 2020, the Richmond-based 4th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals upheld a preliminary injunction barring the discharge of the airmen. In its ruling, the three-judge panel said the military’s rationale for prohibiting deployment of HIV-positive service members was “outmoded and at odds with current science.” The appeals court ruling left the injunction in place while their lawsuit was being heard.

The Department of Justice argued before the 4th Circuit that the Air Force determined the two airmen could no longer perform their duties because their career fields required them to deploy frequently and because their condition prevented them from deploying to the U.S. Central Command’s area of responsibility, where most airmen are expected to go. Central Command, which governs military operations in the Middle East, North Africa and Central Asia, prohibits personnel with HIV from deploying without a waiver.

The DOJ acknowledged that treatment lowers the risk of transmitting HIV, but said the risk is amplified on the battlefield where soldiers can often come into contact with blood.

An attorney for the airmen argued during a 2019 hearing that the odds of transmitting HIV in combat are infinitesimal and should not limit their deployment or lead to their discharge.

In its written ruling, the 4th Circuit panel said a ban on deployment may have been justified at a time when HIV treatment was less effective at managing the virus and reducing the risk of transmission.

“But any understanding of HIV that could justify this ban is outmoded and at odds with current science. Such obsolete understandings cannot justify a ban, even under a deferential standard of review and even according appropriate deference to the military’s professional judgments,” Judge James Wynn Jr. wrote in the unanimous 2020 ruling.

Brinkema said in this month’s written order that she had temporarily sealed her ruling in the case to give both sides a chance to seek redactions within 14 days. The judge ordered the secretary of the Air Force to rescind the decision to discharge the two airmen and ordered the Army to rescind its decision denying Harrison’s application to commission into JAG, and to reevaluate those decisions in light of her ruling.

Kara Ingelhart, senior attorney at Lambda Legal, one of the groups that brought the lawsuits, said in a news release that the ruling knocks down a barrier to preventing people living with AIDS from becoming officers, and “brings an end to the military’s ongoing discrimination against the approximately 2,000 service members currently serving while living with HIV.”

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Sapper3307

NEXT
“First—- trasnz sexual, HIV+, furry, tranz racial General grade officer appointed in history”.

Anonymous

Goes along with our “green energy” military where everything runs on batteries and/or solar because of an overabundance of electrical devices and JP8 is “racist” now:
https://www.yahoo.com/news/power-struggle-us-army-tackling-130000240.html

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Andy11M

Have you hugged your 214 today?

MustangCryppie

Every single day. Thank God I’m retired!

Roh-Dog

HIV is a lifestyle choice, you bigots!

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Anonymous

Like the “bug chasers” say:

HT3

Everybody in those units know who has HIV. Of course, the judges never considered a combat wound in the transmissibility.
These decisions are always made in a vacuum with NO outside/real world implications.
HIV has plenty of “Political Allies” based on the main group that is affected.
If you have flat feet you can’t serve, but if you have a blood born disease that you can possibly spread, you’re good to go.

Roh-Dog

How would someone reduce the risk of transmission to zero during Ground Fighting/Modern Army Combatives training?

Oh, there isn’t one? Done deal. Catch the HIV, enjoy the street sucka!

Should made better life choices.

Anonymous

Here’s our new training film to limit gov’t liability:

Jay

Waiting for the first Corpsman to catch the HIV due to a combat wound, file his VA claim, and have it come back “Not Service Connected”

HT3

The VA will be like:
“Sure, you became infected while treating the wounded…sure. <nod, nod, wink wink> It definitely did NOT come frequenting The Blue Oyster Bar…<wink, wink, nod, nod>”
Also, the VA:
“The courts said the likelihood is infinitesimal. Your claim is DENIED!!!” 

Anonymous

Mandatory PrEP, followed by denied claim if you ever missed taking one pill.

Green Thumb

Deploy them.

To the front.

Time now.

Watch how quick they accept their discharges.

President Elect Toxic Deplorable Racist SAH Neande

I was thinking along parallel lines:
Deploy them to the front
See them get shot
Medic sez, “awwww too bad I got there too late, they bled out and died.”

AW1 Rod

Yup. COVID is going to kill you, and who cares about anything else?

The world has gone Full Retard.

Thunderstixx

We’re way past the Full Retard stage and have graduated to the WTF terrain…

KoB

Remember when judges were respected because they had common sense and followed the rule of law? Won’t be long and even Pepperidge Farms won’t remember either.

If I didn’t have some escort duty coming up, I’d curl up in my DD-214 Blanket and take a nap.

This BS and next comes the Lib’s sh^t show. Do you hate us that much, Mason? FGS Buzz Killer!

rgr1480

KoB sez “…If I didn’t have some escort duty coming up, I’d curl up in my DD-214 Blanket and take a nap….”

$44, cheap at twice the price!!
https://www.amazon.com/Woobie-DD-214-Poncho-Liner-Blanket/dp/B09LF61YQF

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Thunderstixx

Oh FFS….

Anonymous

Everyone else? Bah, let ’em eat Descovy! (What proggies think.)

Hack Stone

They are a work in progress. Getting sick of seeing these commercials nonstop.

Anonymous

Not getting any better:

A Proud Infidel®™

Another clueless Dolt on the Bench dispensing politics.

Hack Stone

Don’t worry, that GI who just pulled three back to back combat tours because the transgender troop is undergoing surgery will be more than happy to cover the slot of the HIV service member who will never deploy.

ChipNASA

For Example…..Ask the cadets who responded to a critical medical situation and practiced Self Aid/Buddy Care and then paid the (thankfully not *ultimate* but who knows what the long term consequences are going to be?) price…
HIV/Fentanyl… only difference is one is much, much faster.

https://valorguardians.com/blog/?p=123803

USMC Steve

Well, there is a grain of truth in some of that stuff. The likelihood of the Air Force deploying into any combat zone is very unlikely, and probably violates some union agreement or other. The odds of those two getting anywhere near any danger is so low that there isn’t much argument about them spreading their disease around due to combat.

Prior Service

Two years, four months to my planned retirement at 35 yos. Starting to think I might have to accelerate that timeline….

MCPO USN

They don’t need a combat wound when their asshole is always bleeding….