Easter Open Thread
Happy Easter everyone! Easter season is 50 days long; today’s the first day of Easter. The 50th day of Easter, Pentecost, occurs on May 23, 2021. Eastertide, Paschaltide, Paschal season, and Easter time are other terms for these 50 days.
Category: Open thread
First!
Happy Easter to everyone on Team TAH.
And to you too, Good Sir, and a ditto from Firebase Magnolia for all of the miscreanted d’weeds and Adorable Deplorables. Glad you happened along to snag the Easter Open Thread FIRST, I wasn’t going to touch that thing with a long range maverick. Coulda cooked my goose and flew me right into a danger zone. I just put that on ice, man and kept reading the FGS linkys till your comment dropped.
We can now say it…He Is Risen!
Christ is Risen!
He is Risen Indeed!
AMEN!!!
He is Risen, indeed!
Someone was booted from Twatter for merely posting the same phrase.
Fond memories of my aunts, uncles, cousins and family
gathering for the event. Corned beef and cabbage. Boiled or
baked ham (ooh the potatoes). Perhaps a shoulder roast as well.
Coctails for the adults as they watch egg hunters uncover any
and everything around the yard in search of the golden one.
Now an old man living alone yet still hopeful for a positive
outcome in life as we await the return of he who left us here.
Be kind to one another fellow warriors. Never give up the struggle
for peace everywhere.
Beans,
Probably from back in the day for you:
https://youtu.be/nBJYxPN8qIA
Second verse:
When the one who left us here,
Returns for us at last
Happy Easter to you and to my brethren (and sistren) here at TAH.
Amen, 26Lima.
Happy Easter to everyone out there.
He is Risen! Morning to all of my TAH family.
Amen brother!
“Risen from the dead” should be read from the understanding of the ancients. Today, when someone passes away, Heaven is described as “gaining an angel”. It wasn’t always this way. In ancient times, the dead went to the Kingdom of the Dead, the underworld, Hades, etc. After a short period of time visiting with survivors (depending on belief system), souls went down to the underworld and stayed there. In most situations, they could not leave. However, if their spirit is seen among the living, they were described as “risen from the dead”. They were allowed to rise up from the underworld… To rise from the dead. We see this in the parable that Jesus gave that involved Lazarus and the rich man. Both passed away. After an exchange with Abraham, the rich man asked for Abraham to send Lazarus to his family to warn them. However, Abraham responded that if his family did not believe Moses and the prophets, they would not believe one risen from the dead. There are other clues in the Bible that indicate that what they saw after the crucifixion was not flesh and blood but a vision of an apparition. This goes beyond mere sighting. Throughout the Bible, a vision of the spirit may also include interaction as if that spirit was flesh and blood. “Even though you saw me eat and drink, I did not eat or drink anything; what you were seeing was a vision.” – …Tobit 12:19. Arch Angel Rafael reveals his identity. This does not take away from the meaning of the resurrection, as this has to be seen from the point of view of the ancient Judeans and Christians. Before, it was a common conclusion that the majority of those who passed away descended into the underworld. Not something that people were looking forward to. There were exceptions, like if you died in battle or did something significant that benefited humanity. There was a nice beautiful place waiting for these individuals. In the case of the Judeans, they had reached the point to where most of the regular people felt… Read more »
Taking the Superstition out and leaving the Supernatural takes digging, but it’s well worth it. The Naked Bible Podcast has a lot of rabbit holes for interesting digging. The J-Man is indeed risen and it’s with Grace and Mercy I’m still here.
Thanks for all you guys n gals do here!
My niece’s children are trying to tell me that I could stop looking. They found all the eggs. But they do not understand. I am not looking for eggs. I am looking for my brains. I have been looking for my brains since this morning. Still no luck. If any of you guys find it, hit me up.
Your brains are still in your colon, just past your flattened out prostate. They popped out the last time you tried to get your head out of your azz.
Not appropriate to this thread.
But you are forgiven.
(Grin)
Happy Easter to all my friends at TAH!
I truly love and miss all of you!!
Happy Easter WW. I was thinking of you recently fearing
we had lost a brother. Glad to see that is not the case.
Thanks brother, I recently fell and broke my spine, so have not been able to get up and move around too much! Finally able to move a bit now, but a very slow recovery. I keep running into everything with my new walker!!
A happy and blessed Easter to you, too, WW.
I’m glad to see you around from time to time.
May God continue to bless and keep you.
Mt best to everyone on this special holiday.
Had more folks attending our Sunday School class in person than we have had in 13 months today – a few still on Zoom as well.
Without the literal physical death, burial, and resurrection of Jesus, then there is no hope.
But He did physically rise from the dead, therefore we have the opportunity to come before the Father without being cast out into outer darkness because of our sins.
He is Risen, indeed. There is hope, and joy, and peace available to all.
In 1 Corinthians, Chapter 15, verses 35 through 37, and 42-49, Saint Paul provides a detailed explanation about resurrection, and how it occurs. People, understanding decomposition, asked what kind of body would return. Saint Paul responded that we have two bodies, an earthly one and a heavenly one. The earthly body is our flesh and blood. The heavenly body is our spirit.
He went on to explain that we would not die as people assumed, but change… From our physical body to our spiritual body. Saint Paul’s explanation is given with the understanding that people believed that souls went to the underworld and stayed there.
Being able to leave the underworld, and even bypass it, is the real significance of resurrection and the purpose of Christianity.
Elsewhere in letters following the Book of Acts, Jesus’s being in the flesh is referred to in past tense.
In the Book of Acts, Peter talked about how Jesus appeared as a vision to a select group of people. Apparitions appear to a select group of people. People in flesh and blood are seen by those who could see. Also, if you read the description of how Jesus shows up in the middle of the Apostles, in a closed room, and their reaction to his appearance, it reads like a ghost story.
Indeed, he has risen, but not in the same sense that people think of it today.
I respectfully disagree with your interpretation. The disciples saw and touched the physically resurrected Christ. “See My hands and My feet, that it is I Myself; touch Me and see, because a spirit does not have flesh and bones as you [plainly] see that I have.” – Luke 24:39 NASB20 The 1 Corinthians passage to which you refer says: But someone will say, “How are the dead raised? And with what kind of body do they come?” You fool! That which you sow does not come to life unless it dies; and that which you sow, you do not sow the body which is to be, but a bare grain, perhaps of wheat or of something else. But God gives it a body just as He wished, and to each of the seeds a body of its own. All flesh is not the same flesh, but there is one flesh of mankind, another flesh of animals, another flesh of birds, and another of fish. There are also heavenly bodies and earthly bodies, but the glory of the heavenly is one, and the glory of the earthly is another. There is one glory of the sun, another glory of the moon, and another glory of the stars; for star differs from star in glory. So also is the resurrection of the dead. It is sown a perishable body, it is raised an imperishable body; it is sown in dishonor, it is raised in glory; it is sown in weakness, it is raised in power; it is sown a natural body, it is raised a spiritual body. If there is a natural body, there is also a spiritual body. So also it is written: “The first MAN, Adam, BECAME A LIVING PERSON.” The last Adam was a life-giving spirit. However, the spiritual is not first, but the natural; then the spiritual. The first man is from the earth, earthy; the second man is from heaven. As is the earthy one, so also are those who are earthy; and as is the heavenly one, so also are those who are heavenly. Just as… Read more »
Graybeard: I respectfully disagree with your interpretation. I wholeheartedly disagree with your misinterpretation of the verses that you are quoting. My disagreement with you is based on my having read the entire Bible, from the beginning of the Old Testament to the end of the New Testament. I’ve done this more than once. My argument is based on the recurring theme that runs from the beginning of the way to the end. In order to understand any specific verse that you read in the Bible, you have to understand that entire theme that runs throughout the Bible. You have to understand every book and every verse that precedes that one passage that you are referencing. Your responses indicate that you have not read the entire Bible. Instead, your argument is based on a combination of doctrinal teaching, and a misunderstanding of the passages that you quoted. Originally posted by Graybeard “See My hands and My feet, that it is I Myself; touch Me and see, because a spirit does not have flesh and bones as you [plainly] see that I have.” — Luke 24:39 NASB20 Having read the entire Bible, I knew that you were going to mention this. I also anticipated that you were going to mention Lazarus. Either way, what they saw and felt was not flesh and blood but a vision: “Even though you saw me eat and drink, I did not eat or drink anything; what you were seeing was a vision.” — …Tobit 12:19. The Arch Angel Rafael reveals his identity to both Tobit and to his son Tobiah. What happened was that Tobit sent his son Tobiah on a mission. Tobiah was accompanied, on this mission, by a fellow traveler. This traveler assisted Tobiah with accomplishing what both Tobit and Tobiah wanted Tobiah to achieve. During the journey, the fellow traveler did everything you would expect a living, breathing, person would do. He ate, he drank, he moved items, and was otherwise seen as a regular person. However, when they were going to pay him for his services, he informed them that he was… Read more »
Originally posted by Greybeard: The 1 Corinthians passage to which you refer says: But someone will say, “How are the dead raised? And with what kind of body do they come?” You fool! That which you sow does not come to life unless it dies; and that which you sow, you do not sow the body which is to be, but a bare grain, perhaps of wheat or of something else. But God gives it a body just as He wished, and to each of the seeds a body of its own. All flesh is not the same flesh, but there is one flesh of mankind, another flesh of animals, another flesh of birds, and another of fish. There are also heavenly bodies and earthly bodies, but the glory of the heavenly is one, and the glory of the earthly is another. There is one glory of the sun, another glory of the moon, and another glory of the stars; for star differs from star in glory. So also is the resurrection of the dead. It is sown a perishable body, it is raised an imperishable body; it is sown in dishonor, it is raised in glory; it is sown in weakness, it is raised in power; it is sown a natural body, it is raised a spiritual body. If there is a natural body, there is also a spiritual body. So also it is written: “The first MAN, Adam, BECAME A LIVING PERSON.” The last Adam was a life-giving spirit. However, the spiritual is not first, but the natural; then the spiritual. The first man is from the earth, earthy; the second man is from heaven. As is the earthy one, so also are those who are earthy; and as is the heavenly one, so also are those who are heavenly. Just as we have borne the image of the earthy, we will also bear the image of the heavenly. Now I say this, brothers and sisters, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God; nor does the perishable inherit the imperishable. Behold, I am telling you… Read more »
Originally posted by Greybeard: Luke makes this clearer in Chapter 24: And then He said to them, “You foolish men and slow of heart to believe in all that the prophets have spoken! “Was it not necessary for the Christ to suffer these things and to come into His glory?” Then beginning with Moses and with all the Prophets, He explained to them the things written about Himself in all the Scriptures. And they approached the village where they were going, and He gave the impression that He was going farther. And so they strongly urged Him, saying, “Stay with us, for it is getting toward evening, and the day is now nearly over.” So He went in to stay with them. And it came about, when He had reclined at the table with them, that He took the bread and blessed it, and He broke it and began giving it to them. And then their eyes were opened and they recognized Him; and He vanished from their sight. They said to one another, “Were our hearts not burning within us when He was speaking to us on the road, while He was explaining the Scriptures to us?” And they got up that very hour and returned to Jerusalem, and found the eleven gathered together and those who were with them, saying, “The Lord has really risen and has appeared to Simon!” They began to relate their experiences on the road, and how He was recognized by them at the breaking of the bread. Now while they were telling these things, Jesus Himself suddenly stood in their midst and said to them, “Peace be to you.” But they were startled and frightened, and thought that they were looking at a spirit. And He said to them, “Why are you frightened, and why are doubts arising in your hearts? “See My hands and My feet, that it is I Myself; touch Me and see, because a spirit does not have flesh and bones as you plainly see that I have.” And when He had said this, He showed them His hands… Read more »
Greybeard: Thomas could physically touch Jesus’s resurrected body. Several days later, Jesus meets with the disciples by the Sea of Galilee while they are fishing, and has them come eat breakfast with Him. (John 21) Again: “Even though you saw me eat and drink, I did not eat or drink anything; what you were seeing was a vision.” — Tobit 12:19. The reality was that Thomas had a vision of touching Jesus. He did not physically touch Jesus, the way people could physically touch each other. Tobiah had to have touched Rafael during their journeys together, as would normally be the case when companions worked together to accomplish a mission. However, simply seeing Rafael do the things that only a living breathing human body could do was a vision. Also, notice that Jesus did not travel with the apostles. He told them to meet him at certain locations. He met them there. This is inconsistent with what he did prior to his death on the cross. This is typical of what a Spirit would do. Greybeard: That there were schools of thought before, during, and after Jesus’ time that denied the resurrection of the body (such as the Sadducees: Now some of the Sadducees (who maintain that there is no resurrection) came to Him, — Luke 20:27 NASB20 ) — that there were such schools of thought in existence by no means forces us to the conclusion that Jesus’ resurrection was only some “spiritual sense” and not a resurrection of His physical body. Again, you need to see this from this perspective of the ancients and not from our modern one. When were the books of the Bible written? The Old Testament texts were said to have been written after the Babylonian exile. Depending on school of thought, the New Testament books were written anywhere from a few years or decades after Jesus’s crucifixion, to a couple centuries afterwards. Either way, the audiences during that timeframe had a different set of understanding, different worldview, then what we have today. I explained a common mindset about death. They believed that when… Read more »
You may want to look further at:
https://youtu.be/nMGLPR5X8MM
https://www.hillfaith.org/apologetics/easter-week-friday-on-the-physical-death-of-jesus-christ/
Graybeard: You may want to look further at:
Your links neither take from my argument nor support yours. I prefer reading the entire Bible to gain a better understanding of what is being said in the books of the Bible. The more you read the entire Bible, both the Old and New Testaments, the more you understand what Scripture is saying. You pick up more during the later reading than you did the previous reading.
I plan on reading the entire Bible again in the near future. It was never meant to be read once, but read multiple times in entirety, analyzed, and matched to everyday activities.
For example, mention of the poor in the Bible doesn’t just mean the person with little to no money. The poor is more broadly applied beyond our definition, but including our definition.
A person trying to get in front of you on the highway, because he needs to get to the exit ahead of you, is symbolically “the poor”. You, having the power to accommodate this other driver, are symbolically “the rich”. Accommodating this other driver, in this example, is equivalent to giving alms to the poor.
The Bible is a series of allegories, stories, symbols, etc., that gets a moral message across. The reader has to understand all the books that preceded the book that they’re reading to truly understand what they are reading.
Relying on other people to do that for you puts you at risk of having the blind lead the blind. Jesus also mentioned something about the blind leading the blind.
I stand by these arguments that I made on this thread and will gladly debate them with you until I am an old white haired man on his deathbed.
God bless every last one of you deplorable miscreants!
Happy Easter
DaHell you been? Happy Easter -Dog…and Welcome Home. We missed you…and WW…(but are aim is improving, just won’t lead as much next time.
Just realized that yesterday was so busy that I did not get on line at all. So, a bit late:
H*A*P*P*Y E*A*S*T*E*R everyone!! Hope your day was as great as mine. Not nearly as strange as last year. Busy, but very good.
He IS risen. However you interpret that, whatever it means to you, may it bring you peace.
You are not late. Easter has 50 days, with Pentecost being the 50th day of Easter. Today’s the second day of Easter.
A Special Song dedicated to our very own The Stranger. The KoB, OWN, Sparks, Greyheart, Fyrfighter, Akpual, HMCS(FMF) ret and others that I have missed!
Because yes, indeed our Lord and Saviour, Jesus Christ,King of Kings, Lord of Lords HAS RISEEN!
ALLELUIAH!!!!!
Welcome back, Wilted Willy! You are missed!
And hang in there 26LB.you and strong and an inspiration to us all!
The Easter Song
His Blessing be unto to you and yours ninja. Thank you for that!