Tucker Draws Military Ire

| March 11, 2021


 Tucker Carlson

“The United States military is the greatest the world has ever seen because of its diversity,” intoned Pentagon Press Secretary John F. Kirby during a morning news briefing. This party line statement was the result of some pointed remarks made by Tucker, where he contrasted Chinese efforts to promote traditional masculinity with President Biden’s recent announcement that the US military is developing new uniforms to accommodate women’s hairstyles, as well as pregnant women.

“So we’ve got new hairstyles and maternity flight suits,” said Carlson. “Pregnant women are going to fight our wars. It’s a mockery of the US military.

Maternity flight suits? Poetrooper sends.

US MILITARY LAUNCHES COORDINATED STRIKES AGAINST AMERICAN TV HOST

MICHAEL GINSBERG

“I want to be very clear right up front, that the diversity of our military is one of our greatest strengths,” Pentagon press secretary and former CNN commentator John Kirby said during a Thursday briefing. “I’ve seen it for myself in long months at sea and in the combat waged by our troops in Iraq and Afghanistan. I’ve seen it up on Capitol Hill just this past month. And I see it every day here right at the Pentagon.”

Kirby was responding to comments made by Fox News host Tucker Carlson, who said during his March 9 show that Biden’s Department of Defense is more focused on woke adventurism than winning wars.

Carlson noted that the Department of Defense is creating body armor and flight suits for pregnant women, and is planning to change female hairstyle requirements. He also railed against the Chief of Naval Operations’ addition of the book “How To Be Antiracist,” by American University professor Ibram X. Kendi, to the Navy’s official reading list. Columbia University professor John McWhorter described Kendi’s arguments as “facile and subjective.”

Diversity sloganeering has spiraled out of control, and will cost blood and treasure in current and future conflicts. Tucker struck a nerve, and I hope some are paying attention. Read the entire article here: Daily Caller
Thanks, Poe.

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LC

Meh. Can they still do their job while pregnant? Or with a different hairstyle, god forbid? If so, I don’t see why keeping qualified, capable, trained people in is somehow hurting us.

We’ve apparently had an active duty transgender Navy SEAL since 2018, and the US military didn’t collapse into a puddle of coddled princesses under the abject horror of that.

I’ve seen people who look the part suck at their job, and people who don’t excel at theirs. Competency is far more crucial than traditional masculinity, in my opinion. Mission first.

LC

I’d defer to medical people – but like you said, prior to the first trimester is unlikely to be a problem, and, I dunno, three days before her due date seems like it probably would be.

But it also depends on the role. Having a four-month pregnant woman take a training flight in a T1-A is a whole lot different than pulling 8G’s in an F-16.

The point being, every pregnancy is different, and allowing them to determine that seems fine. Which is what they started doing.. back in 2019:

https://www.military.com/daily-news/2019/09/25/air-force-ditches-medical-waiver-some-pregnant-airmen-who-want-fly-longer.html

It’s worth noting that that article says that even drone pilots were removed from duty when they confirmed they were pregnant, under the previous rules. Even at 1 week pregnant.

Hopefully we can agree that’s equally ridiculous to a 9-month pregnant woman flying an F-35 in combat? If so, I’m inclined to think the best solution is to treat each pregnancy individually, and let unit command, in coordination with medical staff, determine what’s sensible. So having some maternity flight suits ain’t the end of the world.

LC

Here’s a newer article, about the maternity suits (again, last year, this isn’t a Biden thing) and this one says pilots are actually still prohibited from flying during the first trimester, and from deploying overseas, and from flying fighter jets with ejection seats:

https://www.military.com/daily-news/2020/06/24/air-force-takes-first-step-buy-maternity-flight-suits.html

Guess I was wrong about the first trimester, but that all seems pretty reasonable – no sense hobbling training or non-combat ops when people can fly, right?

Poetrooper

“…and from flying fighter jets with ejection seats:”

You know of a fighter jet without an ejection seat, LC?

If a pregnant pilot is a fighter pilot, she’s essentially grounded, which represents a huge dollar and mission cost to her unit.

Any male who represented the possibility of being unavailable to fly for nine months at a stretch, perhaps multiple times, after his service had invested all those big bucks in his training, would NEVER be accepted into a flight training program and you know it, LC.

It’s prima facie gender discrimination…

rgr769

He’s such a lefty cuck who never served, this doesn’t even compute in his thoroughly proglodyzed brain.

Anonymous

Add this, seemed appropriate:

LC

Here’s a part of an article, linked below, talking about pregnancy in the military:

The stereotype also makes no logical sense: Women rarely get pregnant at a time of their choosing; there are other less demanding ways of skating out of deployment, and male service members miss deployments at far higher rates due to injuries, legal issues, or other problems.

Article: https://taskandpurpose.com/news/military-pregnancy-deployment/

So, according to that, should the military bar, say, 21-year old men who have a higher non-deployable rate than pregnant women? Statistically, they do represent a greater risk, at least according to the data T&P saw. Guess we reject all of them for flight training school, right? Or, maybe, does this factor into overall readiness already?

And the ejection seat thing was just a poor misquote of the article – it said “ejection-seat aircraft, like fighter jets”. Mea culpa on that one.

Poetrooper

“Article: https://taskandpurpose.com/news/military-pregnancy-deployment/

Attaboy, LC, cite one of the most notably left-leaning, politically correct of the milblogs to support your dubious contention…

Humph!

Poetrooper

“…and male service members miss deployments at far higher rates due to injuries, legal issues, or other problems.”

And have you possibly considered their huge over-representation in the force?

LC

And have you possibly considered their huge over-representation in the force?

It’s a rate, Poe. That means it’s normalized by the numbers of men and women.

If you’ve got 10K men, and 200 of them are non-deployable for whatever reason, and 2K women, and 40 of them are similarly non-deployable, then both have a 2% rate, even though the men are over-represented by 5x.

timactual

“Women rarely get pregnant at a time of their choosing;”

So it’s mostly rape, eh?

Green Thumb

Had seven women in our FSC about three months before we deployed.

Five became pregnant and could not deploy.

I think only two carried to full term. Unsure of why not, but just stating the facts.

timactual

” male service members miss deployments at far higher rates due to injuries, legal issues, or other problems.”

Silly comparison. Males also miss deployments at a zero ate for pregnancy. If you wish to compare overall rates, do so. Don’t compare overall rates for men to rates due to one cause for women.

USMC Steve

You might even consider it a self inflicted wound in some cases, to avoid hazardous duty, and I know of several troopettes who did just that during my time in service.

11B-Mailclerk

Or, simply that young adults in prime condition around others thusly and interested, are swimming in a sea of hormones, and will screw anything that comes to hand.

Folks seem to ignore that reality, and the easily predicted outcome of it. Dumb. Dumb. Dumb.

“Oh, just order them not to screw.” Venus laughs at Mars.

As I learned from a much wiser person:

(holds hands out, palms facing, 6 inches apart)

“Deterrence fails by -this- much.”

Mason

Young, dumb, and full of…stuff.

rgr1480

…will screw anything that comes to hand.

That’s too easy.

(^____^)

Hack Stone

Goes back to Hack’s question of how long Transgender troops are “out of the fight” with pre-surgery mental evaluations and hormone therapy, surgery recovery, and follow up treatment. Probably two years minimum. Plus, they have to get trained in a specialty, and that can be anywhere from a few months to years for a technical field. The military will never see a return on investment for training Transgender troops, but don’t worry, they always have a few guys who get back to back deployments.

USMC Steve

In the civvy world, a transgender has to take drugs every day, lots of them, to fool their newly mangled body into thinking it is what it is not. They also have to have regular psych sessions, probably since they have a mental disorder. As far as the military goes, the costs, as well as their lack of utility to the force, would if using any form of logic, make them unable to serve, or to enlist. The cases cited of SEALs being transgender are false. In every case documented, they are simply cross dressers who still have their parts, and thus are not transgender.

SFC D

Standard procedure (in my experience) for pregnant Soldiers was they were immediately removed from working anywhere near the motor pool or RF producing equipment and promptly placed right next to the company clerk. If they were already in an admin job, no field time for them.

Green Thumb

Just check out the chow hall when back on leave.

Pregnant and soft shoe city.

LC

I don’t know when you were in, but it seems this stuff is changing fairly quickly — even the ’99 report on non-deployable soldiers showed very different stats than the more recent T&P article I linked. Similarly, I’m guessing that how pregnant women are treated has shifted a fair bit in recent years.

SFC D

I served 1987-2012. Pregnant Soldiers are immediately removed from work areas that could have chemicals, petroleum products, exhaust fumes, RF hazards, anything that would have the slightest chance of harming the unborn. A pregnant pilot wouldn’t be allowed on the flight line. You’re reading from someone else’s approved report. I’m telling you the reality.

Green Thumb

Yep.

Anonymous

Can’t do job, but can’t request new personnel because they fill the slot.

Green Thumb

Always a great time for the Company CO, XO and 1SG in the weeks before you roll out….!

LC

I appreciate the first-hand report, I really do. I guess I gotta look into this more. I’m a data guy, and while I know reports can be … less than honest… I do tend to favor studies over one person’s -or, as the case is here, a few peoples’- personal experience.

Green Thumb

I wonder if any of the women who lose a fetus or have children with physical or mental deficiencies from pulling G’s will sue the Navy?

I know you cannot sue the DoD, but the attorney representing the dead child’s “estate” damn well might be able too, particularly a defense contractor.

Think Remington.

I know this example is not military, but my point is clear.

This will definitely make for CNN and front page news….

Eric (The OC Tanker)

If my memory serves me correctly, a “female” service member if pregers would be non-deployable. Hence leaving an open slot in the units battle roster. Not sure what kind of profile a ‘trans’ would be sporting, but I think that the person will also be non-deployable.

Back in the ‘old’ days, if you were in a permanent non-deployable status, you would be subject to a MED 200 board and be chp. 13’ed (AR600-200).

HRC probably has a real shit show on their hands trying to manage this.

Your mileage may vary.

LC

Yeah, I think permanent non-deployable is a slightly different story – my understanding was that’s quickly a career-ender, even now. But the article I posted above (linked below, for convenience) says that women deemed non-deployable due to pregnancy happens at a lower rate than men being non-deployable for the sorts of things young men are inclined to do from time to time.

If that’s the case, it gets hard to justify not providing them training on the off-chance they get pregnant while taking a higher risk on some guy because he can’t get pregnant.. but can, and does (statistically), get into other stuff that results in the same open slot in the battle roster.

https://taskandpurpose.com/news/military-pregnancy-deployment/

Poetrooper

Again, you’re citing a lefty source and not taking into account the huge over-representation of males in the force…

LC

Per above, rates are relative to representation.

11B-Mailclerk

The men generally can do Army. The women generally have to have lower standards and greater accommodation. Provably. You cannot simply order that this be ignored and achieve some fantasy where men and women are the same and interchangeable. They are not. Bone density and muscle mass are real. PT tests where scores shift by age and sex are not real. PT tests where you imaginatively find comparable results are not real. You never served. You make that glaringly obvious with your willful disregard of the reality others, many of them right here, experience first-hand. I served trivially in peacetime, but I can see it. Folks here with years in combat can speak to the nature of it. You frequently disregard that to cite academic blather. Unwise. Some women, a very small subset, can meet the standards men meet. They still can and do get pregnant. No pregnant woman has any business in a military job, because she is walking around carrying a civilian baby who has no business being anywhere near that sort of work. Real. Human. Baby. The left’s the insistence on dehumanizing people leads to epic woe. There are jobs women can do. But in no way are they interchangeable with men in Army service. Go read either “The Amazon’s Right Breast” (non-fiction) or “The Amazon Legion” (fiction). The author, whom I know, tried very hard to write ruthlessly honest reality on both, on the use of women in combat as soldiers. Can it be done? Sure. Should it be done? Probably not, outside existential immediate to-the-bayonet war. Ignoring reality has a cost. War has no concept of “fairness” or “equality”. What works is not imaginary. The US military has no purpose other than securing our Constitution through victory in war. Victory in War. Nothing else. So, are there any women competitive in MMA in male weight classes? Any? Are there women in MMA who routinely beat men is any matchup of rough parity? 50 pounds of offset? While pregnant? Anything with a referee isn’t “combat”. But combative sports are a better judge than clever PT tests.… Read more »

LC

Bone density and muscle mass are real

I must’ve missed where the drone doesn’t respond to the fly-by-wire controls for people with insufficient bone density. Man, tech has gotten really wild.

You never served. You make that glaringly obvious with your willful disregard of the reality others, many of them right here, experience first-hand.

Well, here’s MGySgt Stalker, with 28 years of service -more than you, right?- telling you you’re wrong.

https://twitter.com/US_SpaceComCSEL/status/1370041512894025729

11B-Mailclerk

Yet when push comes to shove, they can’t do the basics of Army, without “someone” helping.

You folks are willfully ignorant. Reality laughs at your feelings and nonsense.

If they were equal, they would not need the extra training, special accommodation, pregnancy considerations, etc.

You can’t handwave that away. Objective reality trumps.

USMC Steve

Not sure what his agenda is, but he is kinda full of shit. he is a senior enlisted though, he most certainly cannot just come out and agree with the correct assumption Tucker was going for is the truth.

And I did 20 years in the Marines so I can tell you that this guy is selling you a line of “corporate” bullshit.

OWB

What are you talking about, LC??? Tech is a great tool, but has nothin to do with having one day to physically fight the enemy.

Everyone assigned to a base should be able to defend their position. Anywhere. Very few people will have a drone available to them, for instance. Few of those with one available would know how to use it should they need one. So who cares if theoretically a pregnant someone would be able to “fly” one?

Most of us managed to serve a career without ever having to defend our position. Folks at Ft Hood and many other supposedly safe assignments did. Being armed and having the physical capacity to defend themselves was a asset. Those who couldn’t died.

Every year I served, some member of the military had to defend themselves against an intruder. Unfortunately, most did not know in advance of the attack against them. Simple logic dictates that we all should always be prepared to do so.

Do you really want to be (or expect members of the military to be) in a position where in the midst of defending yourself you must also worry about those around you who cannot? Doesn’t matter to me who they are, I would hope that they can take care of themselves. Or are strong enough to carry me out if I am a casualty. To artificially build weakness into the equation is just stupid.

SFC D

No. The pregnant Soldier’s slot is still filled. By… the pregnant Soldier. The job gets done by another Soldier who leaves a gap filled by another Soldier… Ad Infinitum

Mick

I’d like to see a pregnant woman try to get into a G-suit.

Black Bart

In regards to the Navy Seal transgender, there is someone in 7th Group who is of the same ilk. Despite what Command puts out, there is still talk in the ranks. You cannot get rid of that.

LC

Oh, no doubt. Hell, I’m pretty liberal when it comes to one’s sexual choices, but I’d surely be talking about it. I had a friend’s then-husband ‘transition’, and it was unquestionably weird and uncomfortable in a lot of ways.

But at the end of the day, if they’re getting the job done -and by all accounts that I’m aware of, Chief Nefzger is- then I think the military is stronger with them in, than losing those skills / training / experience by kicking them out.

rgr769

Sure, women who are seven months pregnant should be parachute jumping with full combat gear, at night, like I had to do. Since there is no difference in the sexes, these new female infantry paratroopers can just suck it up. What are a few miscarriages on the drop zone in the overall scheme of wokeness, diversity, and equity for all 57 genders of soldiers. But I’d like to see how they are going to hang that 60 to 70 pound rucksack in front of that baby bump. But hey, smart guys like you that never served a day in the military know best what works.

Green Thumb

If they do make the jump in good condition, then you have (in no particular order) the ever easy 10 miler, walking point, humping the 240 or radio, digging bunkers and trenches all of while eating what I would consider to be an unhealthy diet while dealing with what I would guess would be a great deal of mental and physical stress (the emotional stress should just play itself out).

Green Thumb

Oh. I am also sure the medic will be stressed the fuck out as he or she will have to be keeping one eye on her the whole time less a adverse medical incident occur resulting in loss of limb or life (potentially two in this case) at which time the CO and the entire chain of Officer and NCO leadership will be summarily court martialed and canned.

All other Soldiers better shut the fuck up and suck up any injuries of their own. The powers that be are not going to have time for their whining.

USMC Steve

Really? Who is that?

LC

If you mean the active duty SEAL, that’s Chief Ashley Nefzger:

https://www.cnn.com/2021/02/05/politics/transgender-navy-seal-biden-order-cnntv/index.html

And while I find this unlikely, Kristin Beck, who served in DEVGRU (before becoming a trans woman), claims there are 20 more:

https://www.newsweek.com/transgender-ban-revoking-not-enough-1564685

SFC D

They’re serving well and honorably. Now, here’s the question: Have they had reassignment surgery or are they on medication to “become” women? That would be permanently disqualifying for deployment and a career ender.

Messkit

Not a Doctor, but Mr. Nefzger and Mr. Beck, are still actual men.

Ex-PH2

ARe you telling us, Messkit, that they only changed hairstyles and they STUFF instead of getting boob jobs?????

Oh, I am SO disappointed in them…..

I can only wish the WORST EVER monthly cycles on them when, or IF they actually lose all the dingle-dangle parts for good, and I would really like to know that it wasn’t all just to get attention.

LC

Not a doctor, either, but my rule on people’s names is I’ll generally call that what they wish, so long as they’ve not done something to lose my respect.

I’m not religious, but if I meet a Catholic priest, I’ll call him ‘Father’. Why? It’s what he goes by, even though he sure as hell ain’t my father, and I find his beliefs a little odd.

If the same priest seems like an asshole, I won’t.

When it comes to two people who identify as women and served this country honorably, at great risk, for roughly twenty years… I think I can find it in me to call them by the pronouns they prefer. Is that really too much to ask in this case? I don’t have to like it, or agree with it, but it’s no extra effort, and I think they earned that respect.

11B-Mailclerk

Are you, in effect, saying you will go along with someone’s request to lie if you respect them?

Or are you saying they speak the truth, but you don’t want your name on that call?

“If you chose not to decide, you still have made a choice.”

Personally, I know a number of people who believe things I do not. ( don’t we all.) I generally find a way to be polite to anyone polite to me. (Trying much harder lately.) That does not include lying for or about them. If they want respect for their notions, I expect my notions respected. If they fly their Free flag, I hoist mine.

“Free”, not “freak”, BTW. freedom ain’t freaky.

And yes, I do think you may want to re-examine what you said, and especially how, because you are in that comment easily perceived as saying either “it is Ok to go along with someone else’s lie” or “I actually agree with them but would rather not admit it.”

The difficult balance is “politeness” versus “integrity”.

People are free to dress and act as they wish, broadly, where they are not initiating force or fraud upon others. They don’t get to demand that I validate their beliefs. Respect me and I will reciprocate. Reason not compulsion.

And I have told some folks that they are better at “men”, despite their XX chromosomes, than folks claiming to be men who have the XY. And I have profound respect for the humanity of an XY I know who thinks XX.

Note, you can refer to someone by their chosen name, respectfully, and skip the argument over pronouns.

But if you agree with them, agree and own it.

Anonymous

The medical maintenance required for diabetics to serve is too much, but transgender is okay. Did I miss something?

SFC D

Nope. Unless the female in question is in an admin job, They cannot do their job while pregnant. Doc says no. Maternity flight suits exist to placate the SJW mob, nothing more.

11B-Mailclerk

Military ire?

Political ire.

E4 Mafia '83-'87

If you saw the Hidden Biden clip on Tucker’s show, it shows Feeble-Old-Joe straining to read a teleprompter about how America will respond to China’s increasing its influence in the South China Sea: New female hairstyles, body armor for tits, and a picture of woman about 6 months deep into a pregnancy in a stretchy flight suit. That will strike fear in the Chi-Coms hearts. The “Woke Brass” has got their panties in a bunch because Tucker was droppin’ some knowledge. Of course, they all went “What’s he know? He never served” trope. If what he said really was nonsense, they would not have responded. Tucker went FFE and The Left doesn’t like it. Pesky First Amendment.

AW1 Rod

As I’ve said before, when China, Russia, Iran and North Korea read about shit like this, they laugh. But more than laugh, they see vulnerability and weakness, which impacts warfighting ability and effectiveness.

Anonymous

China’s demanding its excess (expendable) male population from its one-child policy be “more masculine” for some reason… what could that be?

Poetrooper

Ol’ Poe was explaining to Miz Poe today how pregnancy is a variable that can’t be calculated into the mix when determining health issues that may interfere with a soldier being available for duty and how this impacts unit readiness and cohesion.

We thoroughly screen out wannabee male enlistees with induction physicals that look for underlying health and physical issues that may interfere with their ability to serve 24/7 throughout their contracted period.

But that is an impossibility with female enlistees. The services are required to take them knowing full well that they may, through perfectly natural causes, be rendered unsuitable for duty/deployment for extended periods.

Do any of you honestly believe that any of the services would induct a male knowing that he had a pre-existing condition that could very well render him, totally and unexpectedly undeployable and unable to fully perform his duties for extended periods?

Of course we don’t. In actual effect, it is medical discrimination of the first order, and some enterprising young would-be, male enlistee who gets turned away someday may get a good lawyer and sue for discriminatory induction practices.

I’m fine with women in the military but I am completely opposed to them serving in positions where pregnancy, planned or unplanned, impacts the unit mission, especially in the combat arms.

KoB

The United States Military is the greatest the world has ever seen because it has the Warriors and equipment to break things in general as it brings the fight to its enemies, spreading terror and discontent amongst them as it does. There, I fixed it for him.

The best “diversity” that any Military can have is a diverse mix of Warriors and Equipment to do THAT job. Americans have NEVER lost a war that they were allowed to win, bringing every weapon to bare, beating their enemy to the ground, and then continuing to beat them until they gave up. Until we get back to that mindset, we are at the mercy of every bully on the block.

The current regime in the District of Criminals is more concerned over a perceived threat from American Citizens than it is over an invasion at the Southern Border or the insidious attacks of enemies that have world domination as their ultimate goal. And which bathroom to use.

Fyrfighter

They actually welcome the southern invasion KoB… Just more peasants that will vote the way they’re told

Anonymous

America’s military is the greatest in the world because it can blow sh*t up. Period. Anything else detracts from that.

2banana

In the end, Romans refused to fight in their Legions and the hired mercenaries just deserted.

The massive corruption and the lack of anything noble left in Roman citizenship was the ultimate conclusion.

The Dead Man

It’s fine, Biden can’t remember what Rome was by now anyway.

11B-Mailclerk

Biden doesn’t Rome. They repurposed the dogs’ invisible fence so he says in the WH yard.

Slow Joe

I don’t know what to say. I have many good Soldiers of different ethnic and cultural backgrounds who meet and exceed Army standards.

I think that maybe this success by the Army is because of standardized training that brings everyone to their highest level of performance.

I think diversity is a hindrance that the Army managed to overcome through training and personal development. Our military learned many hard lessons throughout the 20th century, and as a result developed a training system that brings everyone up and set them to strive to achieve similar goals, thus eliminating the disadvantages of diversity.

But of course, our political elite have to read that backwards and make diversity the source of all goodinessesss.

USMC Steve

The first attempt at respecting “individuality” was after WW2 when the Army decided to be nicer to their people, not make them do so much hard dirty stuff, live in nicer barracks and such. Look at how that turned out for the Army types who went to Korea in the first year of that war. Of course you can thank Harry Truman and the American people for that too, because they tied up all the money the military would have used to train with between WW2 and Korea. That didn’t help.

11B-Mailclerk

The soldiers sent to Korea were simply untrained for combat. They were trained for occupation and garrison duty in Japan.

Congress cut the budget to the bone, and assumed there would be no more conventional war. Generals went along to get along.

The Marines were not as bad off, but they were not in anywhere near good shape, just enough. Navy had ships and Admirals to maintain. Marines are often on the -way- shit end of the budget stick.

Training for combat is essential. Not training the troops is criminal.

Devtun

Biteme regime might get annoyed enough to unleash the FBI & IRS to harass The Tuck. Advertisers could be bullied into dropping Tucker’s show. Remember what JEF did to reporters who disappointed him ?

Ret_25X

Just a note on pregnancy.

Women absolutely determine when they will get pregnant. It’s called sex.

The left seems to hate women and anything feminine. They also seem to believe that women are slaves to sex and just cannot control when and where they have sex, therefore pregnancy is just some random outcome they cannot control.

Yep, that is what a Bidenista sees in women, weak slaves to sexual desires who cannot control themselves.

Sapper3307

Just imagine the VA claims 10/20years from now.
“My baby was born G-Force head after going inverted with a MIG.”

Sapper3307

TOP GUN 3
Sunrise on the flight line , Maverick in third trimester waddles up to her F35 and her water breaks in the cockpit, Guam capsizes.
The end.

Green Thumb

I would not sweat it.

If all-Points Logistics had anything to do with the aircraft, it ain’t flying.

But on the flip side, any pregnant woman who who has the guts to try and gets on the flight line and is in the act of climbing the steps to the cockpit when the water breaks will be promoted immediately, referred to as a “historic first” and be quickly swept away to a position that has absolutely nothing in common with her training. Oh, toss in a Soldiers Medal (or Navy / USMC) equivalent as well.

Unsure how the Navy does it, but this is how the Army hides is social justice “historical firsts” and keeps them away from questions.

Mustang Major

Women in the military? So what. Worry about the future.

Look for the puppet sitting in the oval office directing the sycophant defense chiefs to implement a family leave policy, allowing male or female (both if married) service members six months off from duty, with pay and service credit, for childbirth or adoption.

The old days are over, and we will never see them again. Stick a fork in it.

26Limabeans

“for childbirth or adoption”

How about abortion?

Mustang Major

That too. Sex reassignment surgery is good for a year off.

Anonymous

Two year-enlistment (no one would *ever’ join just to get a sex change, of course) means after AIT (6 months) they’re only going to be useful for 6 months (not counting out-processing).

Berliner

Question is will the males transitioning and getting gender reassignment surgery on the Defense Dept/taxpayer dime be issued/eligible for the maternity uniforms “just in case”?

Ex-PH2

Do you think they’ll enjoy being told they have to shave their armpits and legs from now on, to pass inspection?

And how long before they decide the “other girls” don’t like them and they just don’t fit in somehow?

Claw

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Claw

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26Limabeans

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Claw

Funny you should mention that. My baby brother (RIP) was 6′ 10″ and nick named “Tall Paul”./s

Ex-PH2

Hehheheheheh…… No one is addressing the very real issues that women alone face. It doesn’t matter how much surgery some GUY has to satisfy his need to pretend he’s a girl when he ain’t. When some stupid ass self-hating dink decides he’s going to be a Real Woman (as opposed to those of use who were born this way), and goes through all the processes requiring being turned in to a counterfeit, there is one thing these silly bitches will have to do for the rest of their silly lives: to maintain the “femininity” of the deal, they will have to take conjugated estrogens for decades, period. But you see, there is a flaw in this little scheme. Women are the usual candidates for breast cancer, and that has to do partly with estrogens, which we girls are BORN with, and these whack job fakes are not. And when WE GIRLS reach the age of menopause, or are sent into early menopause for various reasons, including a complete hysterectomy or oopharectomy (ovarian cancer may require this), we are usually given estrogen replacement therapy in the form of a daily pill, such as Premarin. Without that handy dandy little pill to ease those unpleasant symptoms that follow loss of estrogen, the results are side effects such as hot flashes and sweating like a pig. I can tell you from personal experience that there is nothing quite like standing at the bus stop in 10F weather with the wind blowing, holding your coat open to the frosty breezes and sweating like a stuck pig at the slaughterhouse door. That’s not including other side effects such as nausea for no reason when you’re having a meal and the worst one of all: loss of bone density. That one hasn’t happened to me just yet, but I have the bone of death – dense and strong. As I said above, the threat of breast cancer is very real in women, as is uterine and ovarian cancer. Those things can be treated medically, but it does not reduce the individual being female one whit. Bone… Read more »

Poetrooper

And may ol’ Poe say he thinks he speaks for all us knuckle-dragging males here at TAH when he says we enjoy you being a girl, too, Ex…

Ex-PH2

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