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| November 10, 2020

 

The Free Stuff Army

There is no such thing as a free ride, despite what the sore losers and spoiled brats on the political left think. That’s an entire generation who have yet to find out that real life is a struggle and going to college on borrowed money does not guarantee anything other than an enormous debt they’ll have to repay. The Smart Kids, who got scholarships and grants, already knew there’s no such thing as a freebie, and their alma maters likely will be dunning them down the road for alumni donations. The difference between the sore losers and the Smart Kids is that the SKs never expected a free ride.

So we held this election and things are still somewhat up in the air. Threats of harm toward total strangers come up on Twitter, and – well, that’s leaning toward felonious behavior. But this bunch of microcephalics seem to think that they are The Only Ones whose votes should count. That’s the impression they present, and if they can’t have their way, they’ll huff and they’ll puff and they’ll burn your house down… and then one can only hope they’ll be arrested for arson and other felonies.

Now the so-called “return to normalcy” appears to have created the process of hunting down people who did nothing wrong, except support Trump/GOP and vote that way, none of which was illegal but which rattles the cage doors of these spoiled brats and sore losers. Didn’t get to have their way the first time around, but now…. Look out, Dementialand! It’s a free-for-all in the making!

The Federalist Papers have provided us with this article: https://thefederalist.com/2020/11/09/democrats-return-to-normalcy-under-biden-includes-making-lists-of-trump-supporters-to-harass/

From the article:  “While Trump supporters don’t have our very own designated patch to wear on our clothes and the trains are still empty, the same powerful motivator at work is these leftists’ self-righteousness and unshakeable belief in their moral justification. They are doing the exact thing they accused Trump and his administration of doing for the last four years.

“The left has convinced itself of a great many Trump sins over the past four years, and this obsessive hatred and paranoia has fueled the belief those “responsible” must be punished. Toure, who considers himself a journalist, tweets, “If you’re a Trumper I hope the pain and anxiety you feel now is excruciating. You voted against America and for a cult leader who has no redeeming or admirable qualities. He’s a cretin who cares nothing about this country and you don’t either. You deserve all the pain and more.” – article

Yeah, that’s real mature, isn’t it?  Oddly, they are describing their own behavior from 2016 to the present. And damn, Baby! They’re gonna get even for making them lose the first time around! As I said, they throw tantrums when they lose, and apparently, throw them even when they seem to have won.

And to support this persecution they have admitted they intend to pursue, they have created a database with name and addresses, and are publishing threats by sending mail to those on this list.   https://www.lawenforcementtoday.com/website-lists-trump-supporters-and-home-addresses-possibly-founded-by-china/

The targets are people who supported the Trump campaign by sending money in sums as small as $1.00.

This is, as the author of the LET article indicates, at the felony level.

So the rest of us on the more adult side of the room will, I hope, observe this behavior and realize that the generation engaging in this is the generation of spoiled brats who were never taught that losing is okay, and not everyone gets a trophy.

I hope they don’t hurt themselves like that guy in Portland who set his pants on fire by spilling combustible fuel on himself and then walking through a Molotov bonfire.

Category: "The Floggings Will Continue Until Morale Improves", 2020 Election, General Whackos

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Roh-Dog

71.5 million votes cast for the ‘Anti-American’ candidate now “[whom] deserve all the pain and more.”
Classy af, bro.
There is no reconciliation, we have differing opinions re what is the definition of Americanism.
I suggest it’s the right to be left alone, to the greatest extent possible. You, Mister Toure, want reparations for the sin of my desire.
I believe they call that an impasse.
Too bad for you and your ilk I am a well train rock.. I promise you a hard place.

Wireman611

Should I ever receive one of these threats I will encourage the prosecution of the individuals to the fullest extent of the law. And if punished with a felony level conviction they will no longer be eligible to vote. Solution to the problem.

David

Don’t be too sure, many states want to restore voting rights to felons. I guess because they have such stellar records making choices?

I could support that, but if they are taking that part of the felony punishment off the table, they need to increase minimum sentences by at least 50%.

Justa Screw

I work in a prison, and some of them would vote for Trump, because they believe that Trump will get them released faster then Uncle Joe

The Other Whitey

California just passed exactly that bullshit, unfortunately. Though at least we shot down the NYC-style catch&release “no cash bail” crap.

Mason

They also had a moment of clarity and voted down government sanctioned racism. For now anyway.

5th/77th FA

I look forward to the FSA Twits showing up at Firebase Magnolia to punish me for my support of Donald J. Trump and other truly Patriotic Americans. As stated before Trump was not my FIRST Choice, but he surely beat hell out of the alternatives of career politicians and murderous bitches from hell. And God help them when they show up, because I will do my dead level best to start them on their journey to hell.

“I was in fear for my life and property. I will co-operate fully and make a statement of occurrence when I have my Attorney present.”

You sissy punks want a free ride. Here you go, Ride my see-saw, take my place, have my seat, it’s for free.

A Proud Infidel®™

Good one, I’m always ready for some Moody Blues!

Berliner

Let’s remember, Lenin, Stalin and Mao each had “purges” to get everybody thinking in the “correct” way.

Ret_25X

Remember folks, the left must hate. Only hate can fuel the system they desire. But, they must also feel good about themselves.

this is why they expend so much energy accusing others of their actions.

If you want to know what any leftist believes, read or listen to their accusations (looking at you Dummissar). So, what do we know about them?

1. They worship Russia
2. They worship China
3. They are racists
4. They are misogynists
5. They are thieves
6. They are rapists
7. They are racists (they like racism so much they do it twice)
8. They are imbeciles
9. They do not understand and hate science
10. They are traitors.

How do I know this? Because it is what they accuse others of…

Roh-Dog

11. They are unrestricted murderers of the unborn and selectively so of their political foes (for now).

Do not forget, the defense of Life, Liberty and Happiness is an American trait, ergo…

Commissar

Boomers shouldn’t be talking to Gen Z or “Millenials about “free rides”…

You refused to invest in future generations, despite that every generation before you invested in the future prosperity of your generation. Especially your parent’s and grandparent’s generations..

Your generation enjoyed both massive tax cuts and massive deficit spending.

Running up more than $27,000,000,000,000 in national debt during your lifetimes.

And make no mistake; national debt is the prosperity of future generations spent now. Prosperity STOLEN from future generations.

Future generations, especially Gen Z are going to have to pay massive tax increases to manage this debt much less pay some of it back.

And because your generation has massively reduced taxpayer funding for public universities. The 2020 dollar inflation adjusted cost of a public university education were less than $500 a semester (less than$100 e semester when you were college age).

Gen Z and Millennials are paying upwards of $15,000 a semester or more at PUBLIC universities. And you all have the audacity to claim it is their fault they took out loans.

You could pay your entire annual room and board and education costs with a minimum wage job during the summer.

That is not even remotely possible today.

And let’s not get into housing costs.

Boomers have been the most entitled and selfish generation in the history of human civilization.

No generation has taken more and given back less in all of human history.

Roh-Dog

Either advocate for hard currency or shut up. One party undercut the spending on unconstitutional social safety net programs and is now bellied up to the Bankers’ glory hole. Oddly enuf, it’s the same one that censored conservatives and alt media.

Suck it Commie.

SFC D

There is only one person responsible for the dumpster fire you call your life. You. It’s time to climb down from the ivory tower of academia, stop your endless pontificating, take yourself down to the nearest Walmart, get yourself some gloves and workboots, and earn a living. I make 6 figures annually, zero college debt, a high school education (my college career was very short but also very spectacular in the level of failure), no mortgage no credit card or car debt, and nobody gave any of it to me. I had a great Army career and now have a job I love. There’s an awesome real world out there Lars, but you are too indoctrinated and narrow minded to see it. Stop blaming everyone for your failures, and fix yourself. You’re a fraud.

SFC D

Editors, if you could kindly replace “workbooks” with workbooks, I’d be grateful.

SFC D

Fookin autocorrect. Workboots. Aaaaargh I’m gonna start day drinking.

Wireman611

Steeltoes

5th/77th FA

?!?Start??? Heh heh Blow that “Start” smoke elsewhere SFC D. Mr Jameson done ratted yo azz out. Have a consolation prize…just for you!

SFC D

Many thanks, ma’am

Roh-Dog

I do agree with him about some of the asset prices. It’s a function of crap fiscal policy, subsidizing and engineering parts of the market.
The whole mess is a shade of Centralized Planning Red tho.

The Other Whitey

I’m 36 with a wife and four kids. I have a mortgage (way overpriced, fuck you very much, California), but my truck, my wife’s SUV, and the shiny new appliances in the kitchen and laundry room are all paid off. Discretionary income is less than I’d like, but we ain’t defaulting on our home loan. And we do this on my income only, with my wife staying home with the kids doing the housewife thing. Never took a penny in student loans.

In 19 years, I’ve gone from boot-ass Firefighter-I to Captain, got a college degree (general ed AA), bought and sold one house, bought and improved another, and given my kids a pretty decent life. The college degree was honestly more of a pride thing than anything else; it proved irrelevant to my professional advancement, and I beat out competitors who had BA/BS degrees. In any case, I worked through school doing 96 hour/week shifts with a 15-unit class load and paid my way from start to finish.

Lars is a professional fuckup who has gone nowhere despite plenty of opportunities. Yet somehow he thinks he’s got it all figured out and we should all bow to his expertise.

David

Three months of summer, 12 weeks. Minimum wage $1.40 an hour, $58/week, x 12 = $698. Cheap public university $225/semester $450, books $100/semester at lowest, totals $650. How you get room, food, transportation, etc. $48 for 9 months? Your math is as weak as your logic. (Quoted numbers as of 1970, University of Kansas tuition)

Hondo

Accurate math never has been Commissar’s strong suit, David.

In reality, it’s even worse. I doubt full-time minimum wage summer employment could have even covered tuition and books in 1970.

Unless a minimum-wage job in 1970 was paid “under the table”, FICA and income taxes were withheld. FICA taxes were 4.8% of the first $7800. For single persons, income taxes were on the order of 15% (though I believe adjusting for the allowable personal exemption would reduce the amount withheld from pay somewhat below that). Even if the individual ended up getting a full refund of income taxes paid because of a personal exemption (and they wouldn’t if they could be claimed as a dependent by someone), they wouldn’t get it until after the spring semester had started. The refund thus couldn’t help pay the fall and spring college costs.

Bottom line: unless someone was working “off the books” they’d be lucky to see more than about 85-90% of gross wages in their paycheck. Pretty sure that doesn’t add up to enough to cover books and tuition – let alone food, closing, housing, and transport.

BruteLarson

I had to work as a masonry laborer on all breaks and summer($14/hr)but basement work; which is some of the hardest work this side of hand load coal mining when it’s muddy, to even come close to feeding and housing myself all winter at college in the late 1980s to early 1990’s. I was in my thirties.

When I graduated, I had to work an entire year at minimum wage doing the intern hours I couldn’t afford to do when I was still in school.

I had to live like an animal. Even worse than I had to live in college. I don’t ever want to see dried beans, rice, or ham-hocks/smoked turkey legs again. The smell of peanut butter repulses me now.

I had eighteen grand of debt that I was able to defer for 6 months, but when that kicked in it was even harder. I rode a friggin’ bicycle. I am a later Boomer.

I did not feel entitled. Carter screwed the GI bill up so bad it was barely worth participating in. I did not. It got better after it was too late for me. They told me I was not eligible for the newer one, and of course not the older one.

So I just went it alone.

No, I did not feel entitled at all.

MI Ranger

Lars,
What you make a good point about the price of Universities. But I think you will find the price increase does not seem to equate to the loss in funding. So are federal dollars more valuable than our dollars (consumers)?
I think what many are saying is no one was holding a gun to these peoples heads to go to a university and major in something that can not pay back the loan it precipitated! I also want to point out that at the same time these students are racking up huge debts at Universities and acquiring degrees in unwanted or unneeded professions, there is a huge crisis of skilled labor such as technical colleges and On the Job Training could produce (Electricians, Plumbers, Carpenters, Machinists,…etc)! Which by the way are free or you are actually paid to learn!!!
As for the National Debt, sure you could blame Republicans for taking a budget surplus created by forcing President Clinton to pay down the debt, and then spending it or cutting taxes, but it was only Billions when Obama took office. Have we even forced the Government to use a budget since 2008? Rhetorical question…No!
The problem has been a lack of budget, and a huge increase in crisis spending: Global Financial Crisis, War, and Pandemic Stimulus packages.
So unless you are trying to say that everyone in the government since 2001 is a baby boomer, and therefore directly responsible for $27Trillion in debt, maybe you should look in the mirror like the rest of us and start holding the elected officials accountable for their deficit spending!

Penguinman000

I’m gen x and come from the trailer park. I managed to get an undergrad and 2 grad degrees with no debt while at the same time getting degrees that have been useful in obtaining well paying employment. None of this came from family connections or access to generational wealth. It came from consistently make hard and smart decisions.

Identify the problem and affix a solution. Don’t identify the problem and assign blame. That’s wasted energy and produces nothing positive.

BruteLarson

Same. First gen out of the hollers of W.Va. and without the twang.

I don’t remember anything ever being handed to me by my parents short of knuckle sandwiches.

Time out? I think that was the period between losing and regaining consciousness if you had a bullshit comment for either one of them.

Not BuyingIt

“And because your generation has massively reduced taxpayer funding for public universities. The 2020 dollar inflation adjusted cost of a public university education were less than $500 a semester (less than$100 e semester when you were college age).

Gen Z and Millennials are paying upwards of $15,000 a semester or more at PUBLIC universities. And you all have the audacity to claim it is their fault they took out loans.

You could pay your entire annual room and board and education costs with a minimum wage job during the summer.

That is not even remotely possible today.”

Sorry. That dog won’t hunt with me. The institutions themselves are mostly to blame for the skyrocketing costs of higher education. It’s become big business. Campuses and facilities (especially “dormatories” which are becoming more and more like resort suites), unreasonable salaries and benefits for faculty and staff) are the prime drivers of tuition and related costs.

All of that, combined with a national obsession with having a degree – regardless of whether or not you actually need one to do the vast majority of jobs in this country – is the biggest problem.

Mason

Look how much little real overhead there is for online classes. Talk about scamming kids out of millions.

5JC

My kids paid $0 for tuition and housing on campus at a top rated school. The kids that work hard and study get to go for free. They get a degree in things like engineering. The dumbasses that drink their way through life pay $100k for an art history degree and then live in their parents basement and go on the internet bitching about not getting a government handout instead of their poor life choices.

I get it, poor life choices suck. The only way to stop doing that is to own them.

Hondo

Do you realize, Commissar, that members of the “Boomer” Generation didn’t become a majority in the House of Representatives until January 1999? Or a majority of US Senators until 2008?

No, of course you didn’t realize that. You merely repeated, without question, the screed spoon-fed to you by other like-minded Leftists. You didn’t bother to fact check it.

You are really gonna love a future article I’m in the process of drafting. BLUF: calling a person or group (like a generation) responsible for something they didn’t create and had only modest capability to influence is ludicrous. And that’s exactly what you’re doing here.

Slow Joe

Nice riposte.

I didn’t know that. I thought boomers had been dominating politics for decades.

I would love to read your work on generational politics and policies.

Dennis - not chevy

Lars,
This is from the Canadian Government, “Canada is facing skills shortages across various sectors and regions, especially in the skilled trades. Equipping Canadians with skills and training is a shared responsibility. The Government of Canada made a commitment to support the use of apprentices in federal construction and maintenance contracts. Contractors have an important role in supporting apprentices through hiring and training and are encouraged to certify that they are providing opportunities to apprentices as part of doing business with the Government of Canada.”

You’re the academic, how long until the USA makes a similar statement? How long until the liberal creed of college is a right leaves the USA with no craftspeople?

Housing costs, I maintain it isn’t the market that drove up housing costs; it was the tax collectors. A house that sold at $24,500.00 in 1970 sells for $500,000.00 today. More value only means higher property taxes.

To the FSA I say, “Get a job, calluses heal”

Commissar

Liberal want to make education access more affordable and more attainable.

Across all levels.

Community college, trade schools, liberal arts colleges, universities, international exchange programs etc…

So the “college is a right for everyone” is not accurate.

More like “education and job/skill training is a necessity for everyone, and a national imperative.”

Berliner

Demand is increasing for that elusive, but widely accepted, UCLA Gender Studies degree. Get it while you can!

“Tuition and fees for most doctoral and master’s programs are about $17,486 per year for California residents, and about $32,588 annually for non-California residents.”

Commissar

We have an excess of low skilled labor in this country.

We fix that with well funded skill training programs and education access.

Green Thumb

I would not argue that point. Makes sense.

Wireman611

So, plumbers, electricians, and carpenters are low skilled labor? I dare you to even try my job for one week. I have to know mechanical, electrical, programming, and high pressure plumbing. in my spare time, if any, I get to do projects. My guess is you wouldn’t last a shift. I forgot to mention fabricating and machining pieces that I engineered.

A Proud Infidel®™️

Major Moonbat aka Commissar spews stupidity like Mount Vesuvius did ash and volcanic rock in 79AD!

The Dead Man

I had a kid like him in my Electrician’s class. 5 to 1 he also touched traveler screws more than once deep into the program. Could you imagine the idiot trying to work in a Machine Shop?

A Proud Infidel®™

Sounds like a “One day wonder” to me!

A Proud Infidel®™

Major Moonbat, WHEN was the last time you ever had a job in the private sector other than your time working at a McGunk franchise?

Hondo

Addendum to my previous comment. Commissar, the utter lack of logic in your comment above sets a new low – even for you. Above, you’re allocating “blame” for virtually the entire US national debt increase since 1946 (roughly $27T) to the “boomer” generation merely because the “boomer” generation has been alive since then. News flash for ya, sunshine: the “baby boom” generation isn’t 100% of the US population. Never has been, never will be. And it was only within the past 15-20 years that the “boomer” generation gained control of the proverbial “levers of political power”. Here’s a demonstration of why your argument regarding “responsibility for national debt” is eminently illogical. Using your logic, Gen X similarly bears responsibility for all US national debt acquired since 1964. After all, that’s the national debt acquired since Gen X (born 1965-1980) has been alive – so Gen X is responsible, right? US national debt in 1964 was $312B. That means by your logic Gen X is responsible for $27T – $312B = $26.588T of the US national debt. Didn’t you say elsewhere in comments here that you’re a “Gen Xer”? So, buddy – when is YOUR generation gonna pay up? You guys and gals have been around since 1965, so by your logic that means you guys are responsible for that part of the US national debt. Maybe your generation should go talk to the Millenials, though. The first Millennial was born in 1981. Using your logic, Millennials (born 1981-1996) get “blamed” for all US national debt acquired since 1980 (That’s the national debt acquired while the Millennial generation has been alive, isn’t it?). Since the US national debt in 1980 was $908B, your logic dictates that Millennials are responsible for $27T – $908B = $26.092T of the US national debt. If you Gen X guys collect from them first, then paying Gen X’s share won’t be so hard. I could go on, but I think I’ve made my point. And no, I’m not being serious in allocating “blame” or responsibility for the US national debt above. Since you can be thick,… Read more »

Thunderstixx

Thought I smelled dogshit….
Give this chump the twitter treatment and ban his dumbass.

HMCS(FMF) ret

WAAAAAAAAA FUCKING WAAAAAAA!

Bullshit from the clown that wanted Boomers to catch COVID and die.

MI Ranger

So is it too late to get my name added to the list? My claymores are going to need to be retrieved soon and it is always easier to blow them then to have to retrieve them!

26Limabeans

My Trump sign on the lawn will be there next Spring when the snow melts.

11B-Mailclerk

Orange Claymore

“Trump towards enemy”

Fyrfighter

“I hope they don’t hurt themselves like that guy in Portland who set his pants on fire by spilling combustible fuel on himself and then walking through a Molotov bonfire.”
Gonna disagree with you on tat one Ex, I hope that MANY MANY more of them do exactly that! the videos set to various songs on You-tube are freaking hysterical

“Gen Z and Millennials are paying upwards of $15,000 a semester or more at PUBLIC universities”, might want to look a little harder there commissar, my University is less than a quarter of that, including books. Doing a little research goes a long way…

Fyrfighter

Ex,

No doubt there can be a difference between in and out of state tuition (though states that give in state rates to illegals drive the cost up significantly), But I take online classes (through a university that offers that, AND a brick and mortar campus) and my college is not in my state, but it’s rates are less than the in state rate at even the community colleges in my state. My point is that while it’s entirely possible to spend as much money as you want on an education, it’s far from required, IF you do a little research before enrolling (I spent a year looking into available programs). When I graduate, my degree will be in my field of employment, and immediately qualify me for additional positions, not a throw away gender studies or other worthless degree.

Hondo

Tuition at state-supported universities does vary from state to state and increases dramatically for out-of-state students. But Commissar is “cherry picking” data. Reality is far different than he implies in his comment above.

Nationwide, in-state tuition and fees at public universities averaged $10,440 for the 2019-2020 academic year. That’s $5,220 per semester, assuming a semester schedule for the university in question – and it’s consistent with what I’ve found recently elsewhere.

In contrast, the in-state tuition and fees for UC-B for the same academic year (2019-2020) was over $14k ($14,254 per one source I’ve found).

I think he confused the annual figure with the per-semester rate. Or, alternately, maybe he forgot to divide by 2 to account for an academic year having 2 semesters. Math isn’t exactly his strong suit.

Out-of-state tuition at UC-B is obscene. Per the same source, that’s over $44k per academic year.

Commissar chose to attend UC-B, even though I seem to remember him saying he had to pay out-of-state rates (I could be wrong about that). If so, in my book that’s self-inflicted pain. He could easily have chosen to go to a state at which he qualified for in-state tuition rates.

Wearing the “Berkeley brand” apparently was worth almost $60k to him (2x the annual difference between in-state and out-of-state tuition rates). I just wish he’d quit b!ching about the eminently foreseeable result of making that questionable choice (an additional $60k of debt).

SFC D

In-state/out-of-state tuition doesn’t always follow any logic. For example, in my own short but spectacular college career, it was cheaper by about 15% for me to go to Utah State and pay nonresident tuition than it would be to pay resident tuition at the University of Wyoming. At that time (1980) I think a full load at USU was around $750.

Hondo

Nothing ANY government entity does (and state universities are government entities) has to make sense. And often it doesn’t.

Give UC-B’s in-state tuition of $14+k per academic year (many other UC campuses are similarly high, but I think UC-B is the highest and UCLA’s is even higher for some programs at over $17k), it’s entirely possible you might be able to find the same kind of situation today. Don’t know, and I’m not going to waste any time looking for the answer.

Edited by author to correct error based on new info posted by commenter “Berliner” above.

SFC D

The above mentioned $750 was per quarter. I think 15 hours per quarter was considered a full load. I can’t remember, I was drunk that year.

The Other Whitey

I’d be lying if I said that I don’t find Darwin Award aspirants entertaining to watch!

RetiredDevilDoc8404

You want to know why college costs so much? Look at the “administrators” who are so “essential to diversity, compliance, and inclusion”; fees upon fees upon fees; professors allowed to force students to buy the books they wrote; and professors like a certain senator from the PDRMA who was paid $300,000 to teach one class – Fauxcahontas I’m looking at you. Add to that the notion that everyone needs to go to college, law of supply and demand demand goes up, prices go up.

Commissar

Yeah, that is a problem….

So is the massive decline in public funding for universities and the fact that federal grants and other non interest bearing loans have not kept up with skyrocketing costs.

11B-Mailclerk

You have inverted cause and effect. As more money was made available to students, schools raised prices. They use price as a primary limit on class size. More money means more applicants means tuition goes up.

Basic supply and demand curve stuff, which you seem to be ignoring.

The more the various governments force the curves with “grants”, “loans”, and other subsidies, the more the schools will raise prices. Stop dicking around with the market. That command economy stuff does the damage.

You claim to be educated, yet spew ignorance of basics.

Also, only a fool borrows what can be instead earned.

The responsible party for the state of your life can be found in any mirror. -You- put yourself where you are, and -you- keep yourself there, not some made-up “they”.

You apparently didn’t learn economics in college any more than you learned responsibility in the Army. Grow up.

rgr769

Also, much of the increase in tuition over the years was caused by the ballooning of admin positions that have nothing to do with teaching. A friend who graduated with me in 1968 was hired by our university in about 1972 for a newly created position as a minority administrator. Back when we were undergrads, the majority of the paid gigs were professors or instructors who had to teach classes. My fellow grad loved telling me how easy this job (sinecure) was. Plus, it helped him get into the university’s medical school.

I would bet classroom teachers are a minority of the employees at major colleges and universities now.

David

And how many of these high-dollar schools have giant football stadiums and million-dollar/yr coaches? In some cases not even head coaches? Wonder what a school that concentrated strictly on academics would really cost to operate?

A Proud Infidel®™

NOT JUST the Foo-Ball and Basketball coaches, MANY big Public Universities also pay their College Presidents seven or eight figure salaries!

ninja

Commissar wrote: “Boomers shouldn’t be talking to Gen Z or “Millenials about “free rides”…” “You refused to invest in future generations, despite that every generation before you invested in the future prosperity of your generation. Especially your parent’s and grandparent’s generations..” Commissar, didn’t you share with us that your childhood was less than desirable, i.e. you had problems/issues with your parents? Could it be you are projecting/deflecting your own personal negative feelings toward “Boomers”, which, based on your Birth Year, is the “category” your Parents fall into? Commissar also wrote: “You could pay your entire annual room and board and education costs with a minimum wage job during the summer.” Are you serious? Please share with us where you are getting this information from. I really wish I knew this when I was going to College, because I would not have had to take out a Grant and work 2 jobs during the school year and summer just to pay for my books and the portion the Grant did not cover (read what David and Hondo wrote). How could you have known what Boomers went thru in the 1960s and 1970s financially (those of us who chose to go to College) considering the year of your Birth? Commissar also wrote: “Boomers have been the most entitled and selfish generation in the history of human civilization.” “No generation has taken more and given back less.” Once again, Commissar, IMHO, I feel you are projecting/deflecting your childhood, possibly your perception of your parents (again, based on your Birth Year, your Parents were “Boomers”. The ninja family kids would highly disagree with you on that statement. BTW, Commissar, highly recommend you take the time to read this article with an open mind: “Can We Please Stop Talking About Generations as if They Are a Thing?” “Millennials are not all narcissists and boomers are not inherently selfish. The research on generations is flawed.” https://slate.com/technology/2018/04/the-evidence-behind-generations-is-lacking.html A portion of the article: “We spend a lot of time debating the characteristics of generations—are baby boomers really selfish and entitled, are millennials really narcissists, and the latest, has… Read more »

Commissar

I am not talking about “characteristics”… I am talking about actual policies and political ideals.

What actually happened with respect to our political economy over the last half century.

Not how they act at the table during thanksgiving dinner,

ninja

Commissar..

I KNEW deep in your heart that you had a sense of humor (the Thanksgiving Dinner…)

*smile*

In all seriousness, please read the article…additionally, perhaps you might be too hasty to blame a “Generation” on your own personal perceptions of political economy.

That is similar to saying that one Generation was the cause of the Depression….or that one Generation was responsible for Slavery (see what I did there? KoB knows what I am talking about)…

Thank You for replying!

Commissar

Oh, and the reason I didn’t continue to respond to the whole “persecuted conservative” narrative you have been on about over the last few days…

Is because it is stupid.

Holding Trump accountable, and those who specifically enabled him accountable…

Is not the same as persecuting his voters.

Nobody is going to make patches or accessories for you to wear saying “MAGAt”…

Besides most MAGAts already wear that stuff voluntarily,

SFC D

It could’ve happened that way. It briefs well. Frankly, it’s more plausible that you got tired of getting your ass handed to you, took your ball and went home.

Hondo

Even masochists have a limit when it comes to pain tolerance.

The Dead Man

Or you know, you’re cutting and running like you always do. You’re like an FSA Kent Hovind, been spewing the same crap so long we could cut one of your posts, paste it in response anywhere else and no one would ever know the difference.

Scott

> While Trump supporters don’t have our very own designated patch to wear on our clothes and the trains are still empty, the same powerful motivator at work is these leftists’ self-righteousness and unshakeable belief in their moral justification. They are doing the exact thing they accused Trump and his administration of doing for the last four years.

…because of course they are. SJWs always project.

https://amzn.to/3kengrj

Commissar

You should be embarrassed to admit you read that jackass.

SFC D

He does actually “read”. You, on the other hand…

OWB

Got my degrees the old fashioned way. Paid for them.

Obviously, paying for one’s education is a very novel idea these days. Well, there was that one semester where a got a very small loan for reasons that made sense at the time but would not in the larger scheme of things. That loan was paid off almost immediately because I saw very soon just how foolish it was to make the decision to get it in the first place.

And there were a couple of semesters that my employer paid tuition reimbursement as a perk. Yeah, that was good while it lasted. Unfortunately, it cost me a great deal in the long run to finish up that degree.

Of course, had I been a more serious student, there would have been scholarships. Even so, my parents refused to fill out the financial paperwork to show financial need. They didn’t see why anyone should see their tax returns. I couldn’t argue with that being their choice to make.

In other words, NO to free stuff. There is no such thing. Somebody must pay, and most often it is the one getting the free stuff. Too bad more of them may never realize that what it cost them to get it – like their dignity, the ability to adapt and overcome, earning lesser is worth more than being given what hasn’t been earned, etc.

Commissar

No, the public did. You paid part of them.

The cost of education was a fraction of what it was today. Even inflation adjusted the cost of education has gone up more than 3000% and in some states it has gone up 10000%.

And inflation adjusted housing costs have gone up 200%-1200%.

OWB

What are you talking about, and why are you addressing me???

You know nothing about my situation. At all. Yet you have the gall to call me a liar?

Go back to wherever you came from and do NOT attempt to engage me again. Not. Ever.

Nobody calls me a liar without being engaged. Nope.

And a note to admins: Now that you’ve made it personal with me, you are going to have to make a choice. Sure, decisions can be difficult. Life is some days. Allowing an uncouth fool to continue to attack members of this group daily is just above and beyond what should be expected.

Berliner

Speaking of inflation and the cost of education, I seem to recall Sen Elizabeth Warren, prior to being elected, was being paid over $300k a year to teach 1 class at Harvard.

A Proud Infidel®™

And that was AFYER she LIEAD about being part American Indian.

A Proud Infidel®™

“…AFTER she LIED…”, A Proud Infidel®™ needs to proofread before clicking “POST COMMENT”!

26Limabeans

“In other words, NO to free stuff”

The VA loaned me money for college. I paid it back. With 6% interest.
Nothing free there. Not even a dime of taxpayer money.

The only thing free in life is advice. Take all you want….

ninja

Here you go, Commissar.

“My Generation” by the Who…1967.

1967. You were not even born then.

Ironically, the Who were talking about their Parents and Grandparents Generations….and here you are, knocking down the same Generation..

Anyone remember History, i.e. how an Older Generation were appalled by the Youngsters living in the 1920s?

1920s…not 2020…1920s…the Roaring Twenties…Oh, the Horrors of Youth!

*grin*

P.S. I once ran into a Crumundgin in his late 80s who had issues with folks getting tattoos.

I asked him: “Ever heard of Popeye the Sailor?…

*grin*

Enjoy!

5th/77th FA

ninja, made it to The Who Turns 50 Tour @ Veterans Stadium in Jacksonville, in the Spring of 2015. 1/2 of proceeds of the gate and 100% of the proceeds of the CD went to the Children’s Fund. It rocked the house. The tornado passed right over the roof during the show and nobody noticed…or cared. GOOD TIMES! Saw them live many a time back yonder, CONUS and FRG.

Despite the vulgar drivel and personal attacks on people that the spapos seagull brings here, I ignore him. He’s a pathetic little twerp that will die cold and alone, just as his life has been. ZERO (0) phuques to give. And he has ZERO (0) Clue on anyone else’s life. Back in the day, he’d of been the FIRST ossifer fragged.

Here’s a classic cut with video AND vocals. rtr/gabn/hbtd!

Hondo

It’s been said that Daltrey’s scream before the song’s last couplet is “the greatest scream in rock and roll”.

Can’t find much to argue about with that characterization. The whole track is powerful as hell, and that’s a fitting vocal ending.

Oh, and as I’ve said before: if you have the time, get a good pair of headphones and really listen to the late John Entwistle’s bass work on the song. Absolutely remarkable.

rgr769

I am reasonably certain he was born in 1970 or 1971, which would make him 49 or 50. So, he hadn’t been conceived when many of us here were wearing the uniform.

ninja

BRAVO, BRAVO, BRAVO on KoB’s choice of song by The Who as well as the tidbit from Hondo!!!!

And THAT, Ladies and Gentlemen, is a song of OUR GENERATION…😉😎

Thank You for sharing, KoB and Hondo..and Thank You for the feedback, rgr769!

One last thought…Yes, we may all have our differences, but we do have something in common:

We Are Veterans.

Happy Veterans Day To My Brothers and Sisters In Arms!

SALUTE!!!

gabn/rtr/hbtd

Poetrooper

Rgr769, if your accounting is correct, by the time Lars was born, ol’ Poe had served six years active duty with one tour in Vietnam, gotten married and earned a post-military, undergraduate degree by taking advantage of the GI Bill and working my way through school all four of those years.

Making me easily old enough to be his father.

And eternally grateful I am not…😉

ninja

The ending of the video is wonderful.

rgr769

The opening photo is likely a LRRP team member, as he is wearing camo jungle fatigues and full camo face paint, just like my guys did. We had these tubes of camo grease paint in black and green instead of the Army issue camo stick. The enemy called us the “men with painted faces.”

rgr769

Ditto. I was an O-3 in the Viet of the Nam in 1970-1971, when he was born. I was married following my “Vietnam Times” to the Army Nurse Uncle Sam issued me. Then I obtained my law degree at a private university with help from the GI bill, while supporting a wife and two kids (wife worked too). Both my children are responsible working adults who have never received any gov’t handouts. Except for the first two weeks after I left AD in 1974, I have been continuously employed since I was 16 years old; and I also worked part-time during my four years of college. I paid for everything in college except for a 2 year ROTC scholarship which paid my $160 per quarter tuition and my books, for which the Army got almost six years of active duty service.

I am also happy to say I have no crypto-commie progs as offspring. Although, my daughter was fed the full dose of indoctrination in college, and she had bought some of it, but she has come around to clearer thinking, as now she is the sole breadwinner for her two children. So, there are no FSA members in my family.

A Proud Infidel®™️

🎵”…because WHEN life looks like Easy Street there is danger at your door…”🎵

From “Uncle John’s Band” by The Grateful Dead, think about it.

rgr769

He’s just angry because he isn’t collecting what he thinks he is due as a member of the FSA. Irrespective of who paid for it, I doubt he even has an undergrad degree.

A Proud Infidel®™️

IMHO he’s an angry little man who perpetually carries and projects his anger along with his own personal inadequacies thinking that this World owes him something more.

Hondo

You know, I think I’ve found Commissar’s theme song:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bpMv76SIUhg

And there’s always a place for the angry young man
With his fist in the air and his head in the sand
And he’s never been able to learn from mistakes
So he can’t understand why his heart always breaks
But his honor is pure and his courage as well
And he’s fair and he’s true and he’s boring as hell
And he’ll go to the grave as an angry old man

Describes you to a “T”, Commissar. You really need to listen to what Mr. Joel’s saying in this tune.

Poetrooper

Perfect, Hondo…absolutely perfect…

Hondo

Thanks, PT. I’m a Joel fan, but I have to admit that I’d forgotten about that gem from “Turnstiles” until today.

UpNorth

Nailed him, Hondo.

The Dead Man

I always figured it was “My Friend of Misery” by Metallica myself.

Mason

I gotta go with Metallica’s My Friend of Misery

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ODHhWcEdrvg

You just stood there screaming
Fearing no one was listening to you
They say the empty can rattles the most
The sound of your own voice must suit you
Hearing only what you want to hear
And knowing only what you’ve heard
You, you’re smothered in tragedy
And you’re off to save the world

The Dead Man

Glad I’m not the only one that was thinking that after all.

HMCS(FMF) ret

BINGO!

11B-Mailclerk

Making gratitude a focus, instead of envy, makes for a much more pleasant and functional life.

thebesig

Get bigger liberal tears cups. The left will be getting their biggest “psych” moment. 😀

Escorting the President De-Select out of his office

rgr769

God, I hope that is not Camp 7 in Eglin AFB. I never want to repeat my time there during Ranger School.

Stacy0311

Brilliant idea, send out threatening letters to people who probably have more guns than your collective IQ.

It’s like they’re self selecting to be Darwin Award winners

Skyjumper

My youngest boy got me this coffee cup awhile back.
It often sits on my bench while I’m reloading. (smile)

https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn%3AANd9GcSQoQcgpGX2aLCuThl2nxwPDYyfMtyYV9JcGw&usqp=CAU

NHSparky

After failing open at 2:30 am and reading the thread:

Dear Lars,

Get off the cross, we need the wood.

11B-Mailclerk

Nailed it.

Poetrooper

Wicked, 11-B, totally wicked…😉