New York State Supreme Court ordered NYPD to turn over PII of those granted a firearm license in 2018.
Daily News v NYPD (NY state court): Judge grants petition, orders NYPD “to turn over the name, zip code and license category of all persons to whom [NYPD] granted a firearm license during Calendar Year 2018”.
Too hard to confiscate illegal firearms from criminals, but need to DO SOMETHING? Out legal owners, of course. That this is an invasion of privacy and opens legal citizens to harassment, stalking, doxxing and the like is immaterial to the Daily News.
Or is it? Poetrooper sends.
By: Beth Baumann
The New York State Supreme Court last week granted a motion ordering the New York City Police Department (NYPD) to turn over the name, zip codes and license category of anyone who was granted a firearm license in 2018.
The New York Daily News made the request under the Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) request process, which provides public information from government agencies to citizens and journalists.
According to the lawsuit filed against the NYPD, the newspaper makes the argument that they should have access to the information because their reporters “frequently cover gun-related political and policing issues.”
The Daily News argues that the information can be turned over because of a state law – known as the SAFE Act – that declared “that names and addresses of all firearms licenses were public information.”
Under the SAFE Act, gun owners have the ability to opt-out of their information being handed over in FOIA requests but their application has to be approved. It’s the information of those that did not opt-out that the newspaper wants.
“The SAFE act requires disclosure of the names and addresses of gun licensees unless they have applied for and been granted an exemption under the statute,” the lawsuit stated.
The NYPD denied the request on multiple occasions, citing various reasons, like an “invasion of privacy” and “extraordinary effort” would have to be put forth to collect the records.
The licensing department did, however, provide information about the types of permits that were Issued by zip code from January 1, 2014 to December 31, 2017. They did not hand over specific names. After an appeal, the licensing department provided a list of 132 names for people who attempted to opt-out but were denied. The newspaper, however, wasn’t happy with the list because it didn’t specify what kind of firearm the licensee possessed.
The court concluded that the department violated the FOIA.
Read the rest of the article Here: Townhall
Doubtless the ink is still wet on the appeal, and how soon they forget this is a two-edged sword:
Newspaper That Published Gun-Owner Addresses Gets Its Staff’s Info Outed
The Atlantic Wire
By: J.K. Trotter
Yesterday we told you about the interactive map of local gun owners published by the Journal-News, a newspaper serving the Westchester and Rockland counties of New York, and the outcry it immediately drew. Turns out the stunt was so unpopular — with gun owners and privacy advocates alike — that a blogger named Christopher Fountain took it upon himself to dig up and organize the names, addresses, and phone numbers of the Journal-News staff, starting with editor Cyndee Royle. The post is called “Keep up the heat” and encourages readers to pester the paper and prevent them from continuing to report gun-owner addresses.
What was done in 2012 can certainly be redone in 2020. Read the entire article here: Yahoo
Thanks, Poe.
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Let’s see. We are already starting to see these wack-a-doo protestors carry guns. Sending them to known gun owners (When I would presume the protestors would arm themselves so as to intimidate someone they know has a gun) seems like a bad idea. Is this paper they trying to start a shooting war between protestors (that show no sign of going away) and everyone else? I mean I can probably guess to the motivation – suppressing gun ownership) but it’s a very dangerous way of going about it.
Just doesn’t seem like a good idea to me.
Da, comrade, is whole idea!
I’m trying to think of a convincing argument for anyone to get this much information and simply cannot.
It is NY, and that is a lost state (like Kaleefornya) at this point.
I suspect that such information will be used to doxx and shame in the event of a self defense shooting or incident.
Freedom of the press has been co-opted by the wokerati as a weapon against normies. Given the normies’ desire to just be left alone, it is working.
That may, however, be temporary. There are signs that the normies have had enough…bad things happen when normies are done with something or someone.
Strange law that SAFE Act. Seems that for the same reason Everyone who has a vehicle license should also have their name and address turned over as well. This is not a slippery slope this is a straight up slide into apocalypse.
Anyone know where I can find a surplus REMBASS or I-REMBASS? Just thinking it would be a nice doorbell system.
What a load of crap! They don’t need to hand out that kind of information?? This will end up getting somebody killed!! They should at least let them open carry?? I’m sure glad I don’t live in New York!!
New York, like New Jersey and Kalifornia, is a Banana Republic shithole embedded within CONUS. If I didn’t still have family there, I’d never go back.
I wonder what the burden of proof was to OPT-OUT? Except for an FFL I can see no reason for anyone to not be able to OPT-OUT. But then they are a May Issue state too aren’t they…
Judge knows he does not have that authority but
anything to jam up the system and cost the NRA
big dollars to fight is OK with Marxists.
Yeah Marxists. That is what Democrats are embracing.
Two can play the word game and anyone with a D after
their name is now a Marxist. But you knew that.
Leftists gonna Leftist.
I noted this weekend two different groups of armed people in Kentucky.
I KY an open carry State? If not then is a permit required to carry in the State?
Reporting in the media alluded to a number of these folks were from out of state. If not open carry, what States does KY have reciprocal agreements with so that these folks might be legally carrying?
Kentucky allows anyone who is legally allowed to own a gun, and is at least 21 to conceal carry, and open carry (some exceptions apply).
Thanks for the info.
Just as the press of the day (on both sides) was very instrumental in starting the War Between the States they are, again, hell bent for leather to help start a Civil War. By the same token, State Governments (on both sides) were very busy suspending the basic rights of the citizens then, we are seeing a bunch of that now. (Suspension of the Writs of Habeas Corpus, being jailed for no true crime, ect…the list goes on)
The comments above are spot on. So many states in this country have turned into 3rd world sh^thole mini dictatorships and the cancer is spreading. The ones that do mange to leave are only exporting this cancer to other areas and vote into office the same type of grubmint parasites. See Texas, Virginia, and North Carolina as prime examples. And if the entire state is not taken over, they are getting the major cities. Locally look at Savannah (Mayor from New York), Atlanta (where is Sherman and his matches) Augusta (formerly a beautiful place to live and work) Columbus (many are familiar with there) Macon (sold out to the woke/BLM crowd long before it became popular)
Karl Marx, Lenin, Stalin, Mao, and Castro are so proud right now.
Every VIRGINIA gun owner needs to read this…. and forward to your friends.
Better start voting these critters out in November.
This is EXACTLY why Coon-Man Northam passed the law banning private sales – now every purchase must go thru FFL. This is the first step to becoming NY or NJ – where you cannot obtain a gun without “permission” much less carry one!
VA has also decided that state preemption laws (which keep cities from enacting more restrictive gun laws than the state) are wrong, so now the state can become a patchwork of gun-restricted zones no one knows about until too late. Alexandria’s would make it illegal to have a gun or ammo component in those zones! Absolute insanity.
Dave… I did not know that! I thought there was a recent case that REINFORCED that the state law trumps city in that respect.
Isn’t it in the State constitution… specifically!??
http://Www.buckeyefirearms.org is one of the more astute gun law related blogs, they just did an article today. The city regulations are worse than I describe.
On a tangentially narrow related note;
Citizen Patrols Organize Across Minneapolis as Confidence in the Police Force Plummets
https://www.washingtonpost.com/national/citizen-patrols-make-statement-in-minneapolis/2020/06/06/cc1844d4-a78c-11ea-b473-04905b1af82b_story.html
Nothing like getting rid of your highly trained police to replace them with neighborhood vigilantes to make things safer, right?
You mean just like in Mexico?
Or, like Mogadishu?
I checked out the Journal news employee names and addresses and the one I copied and pasted below has the wrong Area name. That one address is a couple of avenues down the street where I used to live from 1954-1971. I lived in Laurelton, Queens NYC, NY. Springfield Gardens is the wrong name. Before zip codes it was Laurelton 13, NY and the dial phone was LA 5-4xx4
Right around the time of the Newtown shooting one of those newspapers up there got records and outed gun owners in at least 3 upstate counties – including maps to their homes. F*** New York – state and city.
NY, where you totally have rights enumerated in the Constitution….only if the state gets your paperwork and approves it.
Madison wept.
They’re making it damn hard to refrain from throwing off the yoke.
Glad I no longer live in Chicago or even near it any more. But it’s easy to keep in touch with The Old Home Town by online TV news.
Mayor Lightinthebritches wants people from 14 states outside of Chicago (which is NOT a state, by the way) to self-quarantine for 14 days. I want to know how that idjit is going to enforce it.
https://chicago.cbslocal.com/2020/07/02/lightfoot-travelers-going-out-of-state-to-self-quarantine-for-14-days/
I knew she was ridiculous, but she’s gone way past that now.
And those riots about statues? I’m waiting for some genius to try to climb to the top of the Chicago Mercantile Exchange and take down that statue up on the top of the building.
Now people who live in residential buildings downtown are being attacked by thugs and held up at gunpoint, but can they have any protection on themselves? Of course not! Wait for the po-po to show up and ask what happened while you’re bleeding to death on the sidewalk.
SOO glad I am long gone from that place. I will never go back there. And it used to be so nice….
The “New York SAFE Act”: the piece of legislation that was voted on and passed in the middle of the night, and had to be immediately amended because there was no exemption for magazine capacity for L/E.
NY state and others like them have gone WAY past “…shall not be infringed.”
In truth, the act was better before the amendment. There should be no exemption for LE, citizens should have access to any and all weapons allowed to them, as they are supposed to be us. Anything else is just degrees of tyranny
IIRC, magazine capacity was limited to 10 rounds (or was it 7?).
The point I meant to make is that LEOs would have been considered felons, merely for having those magazines, irrespective of their position.
Beyond that, I agree with you.
I remember that 2012 incident. Has it really been 8 years?
Well, whatever worked to upset TPTB (DeMSM) back then, should work equally well now. Who’s up for outing and publishing the presstitutes PII? I can “spread it”, but I know nothing about digging it up.
And people wonder why I have ZERO interest of ever dealing with NY one iota more than absolutely necessary.
Hey, Sparky! Want a job in New Y…
Uh, nope.
That’s pretty much how every single conversation along those lines goes.
Yeah, I wanted to see the 9-11 Memorial, no more. Much like anything in Kommiefornia and D.C. and surrounding zip codes, no thank you, you have made it clear that you don’t want thinking people around, so I won’t do anything to offend you assholes.
Closest I like to get to NY is to land at Newark, sitting on the north side of the plane. Great view of the skyline and the Lady on the island. Nothing else in that place interests me.
Sparky – I frustrated some recruiters with similar responses about CA. “Does it pay a million a year? No? Not interested!”
I used to live in CA. If I were stupid enough to move back (HA!) I’d have to make AT LEAST DOUBLE to maintain even a close standard of living (same size house, disposable income after taxes, bills, utilities, etc), and my quality of life would still take a huge nosedive.
JUST LIKE IN Nazi Germany, the local and regional Diktators want everyone who dissents with their dogma and agenda disarmed because that is quite essential to establishing a dictatorship!
May be having one of those senior moments but what does PII mean? Private Information makes sense but what is the other I represent?
Personal Identity Information
Thanks.