Marine Corps Bans Confederate Displays

| June 6, 2020


Confederate Battle Flag

The commandant of the Marine Corps has ordered that all Confederate symbology be removed from Marine installations.

Commandant General David Berger is said to have instructed that all Marine bases remove any “Confederate-related paraphernalia” worldwide.

The directive was sent out as part of a memo, in which Berger demanded several initiatives be put in place, including finding ways to place more women in combat positions and to update their recruitment policies to prohibit those with prior domestic abuse convictions.

Poetrooper sends.

Marine Corps bans display of Confederate flag

By Morgan Phillips

The U.S. Marine Corps (USMC) banned display of the Confederate flag at its military installations Friday, on everything from bumper stickers to coffee mugs.

“The Confederate battle flag has all too often been co-opted by violent extremist and racist groups whose divisive beliefs have no place in our Corps,” the service branch said in a statement.”Our history as a nation, and events like the violence in Charlottesville in 2017, highlight the divisiveness the use of the Confederate battle flag has had on our society.”

“This presents a threat to our core values, unit cohesion, security and good order and discipline,” the statement read.

The flag is now banned from display on public and workspaces in any capacity– bumper stickers, clothing, mugs, posters, flags, etc. It is not banned where “it is depicted, but not the main focus,” such as works of art or educational or historical displays of Civil War battles. It is also allowed on state-issued license plates and confederate soldiers’ grave sites.

So there’s that. Read the rest of the article here: Fox News

Thanks, Poe.

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  1. Slow Joe says:

    OMG, did the Marines just go full retard?

  2. Fyrfighter says:

    Why is the CiNC allowing Commandants of our military to take steps designed to cause them to fail? Removing the battle flag will do nothing to improve battle readiness and putting more women in direcct combat roles will most definitely compromise that ability (and lead to far more injuries and medical retirements. These progressives have truly infested all aspects of America

  3. Slow Joe says:

    GEN David Berger.

    No doubt an Obama appointee.

    • AW1Ed says:

      Wiki states:

      “On March 26, 2019, he was nominated by President Donald Trump to succeed General Robert B. Neller and become the 38th Commandant of the United States Marine Corps.[10][11][12] He was confirmed by the United States Senate on June 5, and took command in a ceremony held July 11 at the Marine Barracks in Washington D.C.”

    • Poetrooper says:

      Check out his fruit salad–no awards for valor except the Legion of Merit, primarily an E-9, O-6 and up medal which makes it political. Otherwise not even a Bronze Star with V:

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_H._Berger

      He’s not going to get any valor award for this latest move either. However he does need his Media Manipulation Qualification Badge with Expert Bar.

  4. 26Limabeans says:

    The Bulldog will be next.

  5. Poetrooper says:

    What’s next, the USMC high brass adopt a Corps-wide policy of Safetyism?

    • 26Limabeans says:

      Book burning.

      • Thunderstixx says:

        Obvious death by powerpoint battle casualties…
        They don’t even get a mention on their tombstone for that, no PH, DFC, BS/wV or anything !!!
        Their only reward for that is getting nailed in the ass by all those so called “friends” in the libturd enclave.

  6. 5th/77th FA says:

    Guess the general (sic) forgot or maybe didn’t know, that there were Confederate Marines.

    Wonder when he’s gonna change the Official Song so as to not offend persons of Hispanic descent, or maybe those from Lybia? Or maybe those offended by people singing of fighting their countries battles?

    Chesty Puller wept!

  7. MSG Eric says:

    Wasn’t there a point in which certain Ethnicities weren’t allowed to serve in the Marines?

    Should we ban the USMC and every other military branch as well?

    We’re already defunding the police in some cities, so I’m guessing the next calls are to defund the military and use that money to “help” less fortunate people in specific democratic states, cities, and neighborhoods.

    • Poetrooper says:

      I read somewhere recently that the Marines have always had the lowest percentage of blacks, not even up to the ratio of the general population, especially among the officer corps. Black generals are a rare breed. Maybe Berger should be addressing that reality rather than virtue-signalling.

      The NCO class in ALL services has traditionally been over-represented by Southerners, but screw their feelings about their heritage as long as we don’t offend the feelings of a few minority troublemakers.

      What the hell has happened to leadership in the Navy and the Corps?

  8. Elizabeth C. says:

    Tattoos too?

    • AW1Ed says:

      Elizabeth,
      I edited your comment to protect your PII. Please hit the Valor Vultures tab at the top of the blog and page until you come to my PSA to see why.
      Regards,
      AW1

  9. 11B-Mailclerk says:

    Will all annoying hostile divisive viewpoint content be banned, or just some?

    Could make the Army-Navy game boring.

  10. A Proud Infidel®™ says:

    Waht’s next, will they be required to speak with a lisp?

  11. Graybeard says:

    Stupid.

    It’s not just politicians.

    Someone gave him too many pastel crayons to eat.

    • 11B-Mailclerk says:

      This is what happens when a Marine General uses crayons as writing implements instead of a snack.

  12. Hack Stone says:

    They will be scouring the shelves of the Base Libraries for copies of A Confederacy of Dunces.

  13. The Other Whitey says:

    What about the Rebel Flag that 5th Marines raised over Shuri Castle on May 29, 1945?

  14. Herbert J Messkit says:

    Years ago I saw a t shirt with a picture of Che Guevara and the words “Murdering commie bastard”. Wish I had bought it

  15. Another one who falls to the PC crowd’s whims and wishes. You ain’t no Marine.

  16. Sapper3307 says:

    I was at good old fort Bragg for the skinhead year of hell 1996ish? We had all flags banned even the U.S flag in the barracks. The Latinos and Irish among others were very upset. I had my fathers flag in a display case and told my COC to bust me.

  17. JTB says:

    They should ban Gang Members…

  18. OldCorpsTanker72 says:

    Sad day.

    Not as sad as the day all the coddled, cuddled, poorly trained Marines start coming back in body bags – but sad, nonetheless.

  19. tommer says:

    If you are offended by the Confederate Flag,you probably aren’t stable enough to be in the military.

  20. Messkit says:

    I dare say, that a whole bunch of boys and girls from Mississippi, Alabama, Georgia, North Carolina, Tennessee, and Florida are going to be rather upset, that their state flags will no longer fly over any Marine installation.

    • gitarcarver says:

      As a Floridian, I don’t see the Confederate flag in the state flag.

      From the State website:

      “The current design of Florida’s state flag was adopted in 1900. In that year, Florida voters ratified a constitutional amendment based on an 1899 joint resolution of the state legislature to add diagonal red bars, in the form of a St. Andrew’s cross, to the flag.

      Between 1868 and 1900, Florida’s state flag consisted of a white field with the state seal in the center. During the late 1890s, Governor Francis P. Fleming suggested that a red cross be added, so that the banner did not appear to be a white flag of truce or surrender when hanging still on a flagpole.

      In the rewriting of the Constitution in 1968, the dimensions were dropped and became statutory language. The flag is described in these words: “The seal of the state, of diameter one half the hoist, in the center of a white ground. Red bars in width one fifth the hoist extending from each corner toward the center, to the outer rim of the seal.””

      source: https://dos.myflorida.com/florida-facts/florida-state-symbols/state-flag/floridas-historic-flags/

      • Cameron says:

        Yep. It’s more based off the old Spanish flag (the Cross of Burgundy). Same with Alabama.

        • Messkit says:

          Cross of Burgundy is a modified St Andrews, first used by the Duke of Burgundy in Eastern France, and adopted by the Hapsburg’s.

          Doesn’t take away that the St Andrews cross is prominent with the states that seceded.

  21. Toxic Deplorable Racist SAH B Woodman says:

    There are (for those who know history) other Confederate flags besides the Stars and Bars.
    For example, the Bonnie Blue (solid blue field with a white star centered).
    That’s one.
    Now hie thee forth and find others.

    • rgr1480 says:

      The “Battle Flag of the Army” was *not* the Stars & Bars. I keep the “Stars & Bars” (real name: First National Flag of the Confederacy) in my office, and people think it’s the US flag!!

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ULBCuHIpNgU

      BWA-Hahahahahahahaha [/evil laugh]

      • Toxic Deplorable Racist SAH B Woodman says:

        Apologies. Did not do my research. Just winging it off the top of my head.
        Now I must hie myself forth and do more research.
        Thank you for the correction.

    • gitarcarver says:

      As the Confederate battle flag is barred from Marine bases, it kind of makes you wonder what would happen if someone brought in a one of the flags that actually represented the Confederate States of America.

      • The Other Whitey says:

        None of the whiners would know what they were looking at.

        • 5th/77th FA says:

          And of course, we can’t forget about the various Regimental or Corps Flags, ie; The Hardee, The Polk, Stand Watie, Chickasaw Nation Mounted Rifles, even Quantrill and “Bloody Bill” Anderson had their own.

          Anyone else notice how safe the removal of Confederate related materials were made to the UDC Museum in Richmond? /s/

          I will repeat; when “they” have had their way with the removal of these historic artifacts, they will be coming after every other piece of history. And religion.

          • jarhead says:

            Mrs. J’head being a life long UDC member is quick to remind all of the strong values and efforts of each individual chapter, no matter where it is located. That would include scholarships, passing out socks and t-shirts to veterans (of ANY war) in any Veteran nursing homes, among other honorable efforts. The attempted elimination of the UDC as an entity is a bogus plan to make life more fair. Way back when, absolute hatred between the races was was not encouraged as it is sometimes these days.

  22. Thunderstixx says:

    Hot diggety shit !!!
    SG Ammo actually has .22 LR in stock !!!!!
    I picked up a couple thousand rounds !!!
    Check ’em out !!!
    https://SGAmmo.com

  23. rgr769 says:

    AW1Ed, I don’t know from whence you obtained that pic, but it is not a CSA regulation battle flag, as they were all square, not rectangular. Maybe the one depicted is a leftover from the “Dukes of Hazard” or some Hollywood movie like the “Red Badge of Courage,” where the infantry was armed with trapdoor Springfields.

    • 11B-Mailclerk says:

      On the gripping hand, did -no one- ever make a more traditional “flag proportion” version of the ANV flag and use it in land combat?

      I believe there were Navy versions rectangular ratio. “Second Confederate Navy Jack”

      Hm. Third National also has the “Southern Cross” rectangular.

      • Hondo says:

        The Confederate Navy Jack was indeed rectangular, but from what I’ve seen appears to have used a slightly different color scheme (lighter blue, closer to a dark sky blue).

        • 11B-Mailclerk says:

          A whole bunch of flags of that period where homemade for family members in harm’s way, or from a town to “their boys”. Without knowing the provenance of the object, ultimately we can only speculate.

          Confederates spent quite a bit of time arguing over their own flag designs. Some also tended to do as they darn-well pleased. (Hm. A theme?)

          The above item appears to be within parameters for a period relic. Uniformity of Confederate Millitaria seems to be a modern invention. They did not have central issue facilities with a nation-wide standardization of supply. Frankly, -neither- side had industrial production as we understand it today. When you have to farm out to “cottage industry”, under conditions of wartime privation, uniformity goes out the window. “Make do” is usually “make different”.

          The pictured item could also be a well made fake or a movie prop.

          Also, the photographer or printer may have altered the color balance for effect. The “white” is almost Khaki.

          • rgr769 says:

            The off white or beige on the pictured flag could be faux movie dirt. I had it sprayed on my uniform (shell jacket) when making “Gettysburg.” It looked like beige talcum powder.

  24. Firebase says:

    The flag that has been banned by the Marines was not the original Confederate flag, of which there were quite a few variations. It’s the later version of the “Stars & Bars” that was adopted by the segregationist, anti-civil rights “Dixiecrat” party in the late 1940’s. This ban is not snubbing anyone’s “Southern heritage,” unless that heritage includes Klan rallies in the 1950’s where this particular flag was proudly and ubiquitously displayed.

    • SEAL TWO says:

      For someone who knows so much, it’s strange that you don’t know the difference between the “Stars and Bars” (regardless of which version) and the battle flag of the Army of Northern Virginia, later adopted by various regiments throughout the Confederacy. And… The United States flag (the “Stars and Stripes”) was also “proudly and ubiquitously displayed” at Klan rallies. Just wait, they’re going to (eventually)try to ban that one, too.

      • Firebase says:

        I don’t claim to “know so much,” but I do know that the most ubiquitous present-day version of the Stars & Bars was adopted by the segregationist Dixiecrat Party in the late 1940’s, and became a symbol of segregationism afterwards.

        The swastika is an ancient symbol associated with the Buddhist religion, but in the 1930’s it became a symbol of the Nazi party in Germany, and has remained a symbol of hate ever since. Lately it has been proudly displayed alongside both the Stars & Bars and the Stars & Strips as well. I don’t believe the Marines would ever be partial to seeing swastikas displayed on their bases either.

  25. SEAL TWO says:

    A few days ago looters/anarchists (aka “peaceful protestors”)burned the Daughters of the Confederacy House in Richmond. Among the items destroyed was an irreplaceable Stonewall Jackson battle flag. Not a peep from ANY of the “news networks.”

    • Firebase says:

      It was reported (“peeped”) by NBC and the Washington Post, among others.

    • rgr1480 says:

      Bloody bastards!

    • The Other Whitey says:

      I’m curious how they square the “North good, South bad” line with “Indians good, USA bad.” Especially seeing as how lots of Indians fought for the south (the Cherokee especially were big on institutionalized slavery) and many of those same Union troops went right back to fighting Indians within weeks of Appomattox. Quite the logical conundrum.