Jim Mattis Slams President Trump’s Response to Riots and Protests
James Mattis criticized President Trump for turning the protest and riot issue into one requiring military action. He especially took issue with what happened in Washington DC, where officials cleared areas of protestors. He even implied that President Trump was making a mockery of the Constitution.
According to those on the ground in that area, the protestors pre-staged items they could use as weapons. They were throwing frozen water bottles at law enforcement. Law enforcement used proper protocol to remove rioters. Given the threat that these rioters posed, expanding the defense perimeter to include the attacked church was needed to increase security.
From SFGATE:
He said he never dreamed troops “would be ordered under any circumstance to violate the Constitutional rights of their fellow citizens — much less to provide a bizarre photo op for the elected commander-in-chief, with military leadership standing alongside.”
“Donald Trump is the first president in my lifetime who does not try to unite the American people –does not even pretend to try. Instead he tries to divide us,” Mattis wrote in a statement published by The Atlantic. “We are witnessing the consequences of three years of this deliberate effort. We are witnessing the consequences of three years without mature leadership.”
Mattis called on Americans to unite without Trump. “This will not be easy, as the past few days have shown, but we owe it to our fellow citizens; to past generations that bled to defend our promise; and to our children,” he wrote.
Mattis said of the protesters that Americans should not be distracted by a small number of lawbreakers. He said they are rightly demanding that the country follow the words of “Equal Justice Under Law” that are on display at the U.S. Supreme Court.
“The protests are defined by tens of thousands of people of conscience who are insisting that we live up to our values — our values as people and our values as a nation,” Mattis said.
Mattis took particular issue with the use of force to move back protesters so Trump could visit St. John’s Church the day after it was damaged by fire during protests. Several different groups, including the National Guard and the U.S. Park Police, were involved.
When people get violent and engage in assaults and destruction of property, we’re no longer just dealing with “peaceful protests”. Our founders argued for the rightful assembly to share ideas. They were; however, opposed to emotionally driven violent demonstrations that we’re seeing here.
SFGATE has more here.
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Mad Dog Mattis preaches truth!
Grrrrr..ruff..ruff.
Looters should be shot on sight!
Trump being classy as always:
”Probably the only thing Barack Obama and I have in common is that we both had the honor of firing Jim Mattis, the world’s most overrated General. I asked for his letter of resignation, & felt great about it. His nickname was ‘Chaos’, which I didn’t like, & changed it to ‘Mad Dog.’ His primary strength was not military, but rather personal public relations. I gave him a new life, things to do, and battles to win, but he seldom ‘brought home the bacon’. I didn’t like his ‘leadership’ style or much else about him, and many others agree. Glad he is gone!”
I dunno guys, maybe if everyone who used to work for him keeps saying the exact same things about him, maybe, just maybe, they might have a point. Maybe Trump is not a 5-dimensional chess player and just a lying shithead after all? I, for one, would take Mattis’ word over Trump’s any day of the week.
Nice try.
I will never again take Mattis seriously after his Globular Warmin rant.
Mattis is a political animal, sucking up to the left.
Ding ding ding.
Yeah, weird how that seems to happen to everyone who falls from Trump’s graces. It’s almost like he only hires leftist deep cover operatives. /sarc
The people who make a career in the federal bureaucracy are by definition “Deep staters” who overwhelmingly lean Left.
Those who cannot keep their professionalism while working for a President they didn’t vote for, end up falling from Trump’s graces as you say.
So yes, take off the /sarc label. You were actually right.
Out of 4 posts you have made in this thread, you have been right once.
Due to your score, I am starting to suspect your political inclination.
Just remember, Mattis was also responsible for the hand-kissing in COIN OP, the payments to SoI (read: al quesadilla in The Levant turned ISIS), nixing the decap op on al-Sadr and his group of thugs.
Was the guy an effective COMBAT Leader?
sure.
Was/is he a good politician?
Amongst the best (and that ain’t a good thing…).
better watch out Some guy, might get attacked on here for that kind of opinion. Be damned if you insult Trump.
Originally posted by some guy: I dunno guys, maybe if everyone who used to work for him keeps saying the exact same things about him, maybe, just maybe, they might have a point. Maybe Trump is not a 5-dimensional chess player and just a lying shithead after all? I, for one, would take Mattis’ word over Trump’s any day of the week. Everyone used to believe that the sun orbited the earth. Did it immediately follow that during the time people believed this, the sun “actually” orbited the earth? YES [ ] NO [ ] Copy and paste this question to your reply, and place an “X” in the box that represents your answer. Spare me any additional response that you would want to add. Now, what’s missing from your, “if everyone who used to work for him says the same thing”… The fact that “everyone that used to work for him” who are “saying the same thing” happened to be asked to submit their resignation letter or were released from the administration. That, you know, they are butt hurt and resentful over the circumstances of their release, and that they’re taking an opportunity to join others like them with attacking President Trump. Just to get back like the arrogant people they are. The deep state extends into the Pentagon. Generals and Admirals are actually politicians in uniform. That’s a perfect location for them if they’re thinking about retirement… They could rub elbows with lobbyists and powerful organizations/entities that go to Washington D.C. James Mattis was NOT in a military environment after he retired. He was in a political environment, a civilian government environment. There’s much more to governing a nation than leading a military organization. A lot more variables and factors to consider. In this situation, I’ll take President Trump’s word over that of James Mattis. The folk that work for the Trump Administration sign an agreement that they are not to work for certain organizations for a certain number of years after they’re released from the Administration. So, they’re “gone” and they have to wait to take advantage… Read more »
Mattis needs to open his eyes and pull his head out…
My thoughts exactly.
But that JarHead is airtight?
I like Mattis, but he has always been over rated and inflated.
He is wrong here for one simple reason–and it is very easy to understand.
Those who are protesting don’t actually care about the issue they are claiming to be angry about.
How do I know that? They are not raising their kids to be the future cops, firemen, EMTS, and civil servants who could and would change the municipal culture in their cities.
Nope, they just vote for clowns like those in charge in Bmore, Chiraq, Minnafg, etc. People who promised to treat them like they are handicapped children.
How can one expect the city leaders and their cops to treat you with respect and dignity when you elected them to treat you like helpless children?
That anger they feel needs to be directed at the person in the mirror.
Mattis needs to remember one thing, kissing up to PROTIFA and BLM will not save his privileged ass.
I’m sure his attitude would be different if they were burning and looting his property and Trump had not shit canned him…
Target cease fire.
👍🏼
Very well stated 25X. Pointing the kids in the right direction and voting for real leadership Trumps all the protesting bull crap every time. Setting an example to follow would do wonders and they are on the wrong path right now. Speaking of setting examples, that cop nealing on Mr. Floyds neck while playing pocket pool is also setting a very poor example as well as his partners letting it happen.
Just ask some of the senior Defense civil servants (not political appointees) about the permanent damage Mattis did to undermine civilian control of the military.
I thought he would make a good SecDef based on his experience and history.
I now understand why there is a law to make retired generals wait before going into appointee positions.
He was not a very good SecDef, trusted only generals, not those senior executive civil servants. While some generals may know a lot, many are not as deep strategic thinkers as they think they are and certainly not comparable to the loss of talent the Defense Department suffered under Mattis.
“I now understand why there is a law to make retired generals wait before going into appointee positions.”
Very smart observation. I never thought much of that law either. I saw it as a bureaucratic block to keep popular generals from influencing policy. Now I understand how important this wait is.
I ___, do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and DOMESTIC; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; that I take this obligation freely, without any mental reservation or purpose of evasion; and that I will well and faithfully discharge the duties of the office on which I am about to enter. So help me God.
Seems the media and all the Trump haters forget the word domestic.
Sometimes, domestic is a problem…school integration, post-hurricane Andrew, Katrina, etc, OK City and on and on.
The movers and shakers of the group that hates President Trump and conservatives have no use for the constitution. They see it as an “old outdated document” written by “dead white men” that “should not have any relevance” given changes that happened since then.
They want to fundamentally remake the United States into their socialist utopia and the Constitution… And conservatives… Are in their way.
Wonder who Mad Dogs’ speech writer is these days? And who’s signing his “other paycheck”? Money talks…Big money screams! Those of you who were serving when he was may can put more light on his thinking for us. He was well below my radar until his work in the Trump admin. Somehow I see the Secret Service being the ones who decide what security measures need to be taken to protect their principles, not the President. I may be wrong. I would think that he just goes where and how they tell him to go. I also believe it was the responsibility of the individual Cities and States Local po po and the Guv to keep the “peacefull protests” from turning into “rioting and looting.”
“the first president in my lifetime who does not try to unite the American people –does not even pretend to try. Instead he tries to divide us,” Obviously Mr. Mattis has forgotten the previous administration which planted and nourished the seeds for the disunity!)
As a general I thought Mattis was first-rate. Sadly, like many other flag officers (McRaven comes to mind) he peaked as a flag officer and as a civilian has been a disappointment. The Peter Principle is still in force.
Perhaps this is driven by Mattis feeling irrelevant?
I think it has more to do with butt-hurt…
Change “butt-hurt” into “butthead” and I would agree with you.
Trump’s a butthead, and so is Mattis. I’m a butthead, too, being as stubborn as a Missouri mule. Mattis finally ran into someone who’s just as stubborn and opinionated as he is, and it annoys him.
He’s done some other things since he retired that I thought were just silly, but that’s just my opinion, nothing els.e
This. Like a lot of people Trump fires they suddenly find a lot of love from the leftist media for being “brave” and “speaking truth to power.”
He IS correct in this particular assessment – Trump is indeed not pretending to try. He doesn’t need to pretend. He does things instead of pretending to care about doing things, then doing nothing. Most others just talk a good game while contributing zero toward solutions.
Otherwise, Mattis does have the right to express his opinion. So do I: Jim, you really don’t need to foist your call sign onto the rest of us. A little less chaos, please.
What the fuck is Mattis complaining about? Despite pressures to do so, POTUS has not even proclaimed the Insurrection Act, which would have put Federal troops on the streets and federalized the NG, as LBJ did in 1967 and Bush senior did in 1992. This sounds more like a political statement for either an independent presidential campaign in 2020 or a 2024 presidential run as a Wesley Clark type demonrat…
I’m hoping POTUS rededicates himself to signing legislation for a second round of stimulus.
As a member of the non-protesting, non-looting Free Shit Army I stand ready to be stimulated again.
Show me the money Mr. President. Make it rain!!
I’d like to see the Feds change the tax brackets for anyone that lives in a state that shutdown businesses by redefinition of taxable income, force the states to do the same so it chokes them even further, like State And Local Tax (SALT) deduction reduction on ‘roids.
Break the redistributive (and somehow, at the same time, regressive) tax scheme!!
A lot of State’s Governments are still not in session so it’ll screw them up to play catch up, and no one will stand for a tax increase at this point.
“Never let a good crisis go to waste” goes both ways, you commie pricks!
Yeah, forget “stimulus checks that go to everyone. Give a 3-6 month tax holiday. That way those producing / working get a break, those doing nothing get nothing..
It’s only fair.
But the system will do you sans lube on the back end when property values reset to historical mean, action/reaction, butterfly wings, etc.
The well-intentioned, artificial market manipulations brought to use by tax deductions and cheap money are coming home to roost.
I’m not a producer or worker and have been doing nothing full-time for over three years. A tax holiday doesn’t help me unless my two pensions are fully exempt from FITW. I wouldn’t mind if POTUS suspended taxes on capital gains on non-retirement investments in my brokerage accounts. Increasing the SALT deduction would also be helpful as I live in Taxachusetts.
Through sound financial planning I was able to fully retire at 56. I don’t want to be penalized for exercising my freedom to do nothing. In fact, doing nothing has been all I ever hoped it would be.
No, this Gray Panther wants a second stimulus check for not less than $1,200. That payment would buy me about 10 more shares of Wal Mart stock. I live on Main Street but get paid by Wall Street.
Pensions, IRA distros and investment income *shouldn’t* be taxable until a threshold, just like physical labor should never be taxed, imho.
The impact of tax on retired people is stupid and regressive. Tax someone that paid tax the whole time, did the right thing, just to tax them again…? Lunacy.
Here’s a heady opinion from your southern border state, your state government, as mine, has become destructive to the pursuit of life, liberty and happiness, therefor petition the state for redress given the current climate, and if they do not relent, alter or abolish it.
Wiser Men than I said that, believed it so intently they risked everything.
Now our states’ unions, the most toxic of factions, use the Peoples’ Treasury as a political cudgel, taking at their desire; campaign funds and visas to lower-tax states.
This system will end, willfully or not.
This is a little off topic but today I went to a convenience store here in Vermont to purchase a six pack of beer. I was asked to produce an ID. I am 71 years old and told the clerk to keep the beer , I would go to N H and get it where freedom still means something. Left the beer on the counter and crossed the river to get my six pack. N H was literally just across the bridge.
May have been store policy to card everyone buying alcohol. I’ve run across that a few places. And the policy makes good sense from a legal perspective.
Yeah, it’s sometimes comical. But if the merchant has such a policy and actually enforces it, they have a decent argument in court if an underage kid uses a forged ID to buy beer.
If they don’t, they’re possibly going to get hammered by their state’s liquor license agency (e.g., lose their liquor license) or LE for failing to take reasonable precautions to prevent sale of alcohol to minors when one manages to do so. Or they’ll get sued by some parent when “little Joey or Jeannie” manages to buy beer, gets sh!tfaced – and then offs themselves or someone else (or puts themselves/someone else in a wheelchair for life) while driving drunk.
Sorry, Hondo, but have to disagree. Are you saying there’s no room for the application of a little common sense in this situation? Nothing wrong with carding young people of questionable age but septuagenarians? C’mon.
I once had a restaurant manager in Albuquerque refuse to serve my 85 year old mother-in-law a beer to go with her enchiladas because her driver’s license was expired and therefore not a valid proof of her age. As if her withered wrinkled appearance was insufficient to his eyes? Like Steve, we took our business elsewhere.
IMO, This is a bit like a commander restricting the whole unit when one shitbird fucks up. It’s hiding behind rules and regulations to cover one’s ass–nothing more.
Imagine being so butt hurt about a legal requirement, that you go out of your way and waste your own precious time instead of just taking the two seconds to pull out your id. I hope the clerk across the bridge carded you too.
So you never question a stupid rule or unjust law by standing up to it?
Steve showed he’s not a lemming. You?
There goes regional pole-vaulting champ Poe, jumping to conclusions again.
Quite to the contrary, I question dumb rules all the time. For instance, why are there so many god damn stop signs in residential areas, where yield signs would suffice (seriously, I counted 11 just to get from my house to the main road, and no, kids don’t play on the streets anymore these days). Why can’t I have a beer on a nice day in the public park while minding my own damn business and not hurting anyone? Why do I have SHARP training again? Why won’t my reserve unit count the training I already took at my GS job? Why do I have to take it at all? Am I less likely to rape someone now? Why does Army resilience training want to make me kill myself even more?
However, in this specific case, the form of protest does nothing, except waste the protester’s time. The clerk probably doesn’t even want to card him, but is required to. I’m not saying the requirement to card someone who is clearly of legal isn’t overzealous. My point is that compliance with this law is a minor inconvenience and far less of a hassle than driving across state line just to prove your point. To me that is akin to pleading the 5th and demanding a lawer when a cop pulls you over.
The beer was also probably cheaper in NH (NH liquor stores get a lot of out-of-state business). If a “convenience” store is not convenient, and the beer across the bridge is cheaper, why not?
Is this commissar in disguise??
Interesting that people think this makes sense, but requiring ID to vote is racist….
Not quite, I also agree that ID should be required for voting.
He sounds like Helpful Medal.
Wow, guy, you remind of the guy telling his DI, “Thank you sir, may I have another”. Imagine being so wishy-washy that anything and everything the government does is 100% OK.
I get carded when I buy booze and I am a septuagenaian, as well. Funny how one has to show ID to cash a check or pay by check, and practically everything else except to vote. Bet most of those three million Hildabeast voters in Commiefornia were illegals.
I can’t even deposit money in my own
checking account without showing my
drivers license.
A few years ago I was checking out at Wally World with a couple of cases and the cutie behind the register asked me what my DOB was. when I said 1943 the guy behind me choked.
What’s stimulus check?
I was wondering the same thing.
I didn’t see shit the first time around, and likely won’t if there is another.
But you better fucking believe I gotta fork over “my fair share”, including the extra property taxes when my home assessment jumped over $60k. I also got that bill today. Over half of it goes for schools which haven’t been in session for three months.
I feel your pain. I’m anxiously awaiting my next fiscal year property tax assessment on July 1st. I pay over $600 monthly in property taxes currently and that’s the lowest amount I’ve paid for seven years. The MA town I live in is building a new high school that likely will increase my yearly taxes by another $1,000.
Fortunately, the Spousal Unit and me made less than $150K combined in 2019 as retirees so we both received the $1,200 stimulus payment. We get by on a low six figure income in Taxachusetts because we are debt free including our home/land being mortgage free. Neither of us collects Social Security yet, but we hope it will pay some benefits in 4-5 years when we plan to apply.
My advice to anyone going into retirement is pay off your mortgage first like Dave Ramsey recommends. We’re living and giving in Baby Step 7! Hooah!
There IS hope. I finally got the free $$ last week. Was beginning to wonder.
On property taxes – mine are much more than half going to the schools. Talk about rewarding failure!
It’s like that in my area too. Whenever they send out a bill for real estate or property tax, they show where the money is coming from and where it is going. After federal and state grants, real estate property tax is the next biggest cash inflow. They categorize property tax as its own category. Cash outflow? The largest percent goes to education.
I read somewhere that it may take until August to get all the money distributed. We got ours a week ago in the form of a debit card.
Well, there is a portion of US residents (vs Citizens) that do not want to fruitfully participate in the original construction of these states united.
DJT ain’t perfect but as long as he keeps; pushing for skinnying the Gov esp by forcing states to be more responsible for their own function, returns justice, repatriates business.., basically he keeps pissing off the anti American, commie leftists.
Mattis, for some damn reason, thinks you can negotiate with these clowns. They will accept nothing less than complete authoritarian control by government-sponsored ‘Social Justice Boards’ that have power of law, that’ll dish out hangings for wrongthink.
Wrongthink or thoughtcrime is already here. Daily, the progs are rewriting their “Newspeak Dictionary.” Read Orwell’s “1984” and you will find out why. “Freedom is slavery; slavery is freedom.” Or as a famous gang of national socialists liked to say: “Arbeit macht frei.”
Sounds like SOUR GRAPES. Did cnn, nbc or LSMFT cable news hire him yet as a left wing anti POTUS contributor.???
I always liked Mattis. Even served under him in a combat zone.
And then he went public with a spat with the president, while in command and in uniform, on fervently disagreeing with Trump on pulling out of Syria and Afghanistan.
I was like – if any other officer did that, he/she would have been removed in a heart beat. And sent home with a GOMAR.
I knew he had lost it.
And then he went on the board of the fake blood testing company and inferred they had military contracts.
Seems like all the DC elites are more than happy to cash in on their past positions of of power, even when they have six figure pensions. I like (sarc) how Mattis wants the military to protect Middle East Muslims but doesn’t think that it should be used to protect our cities and businesses from being sacked by gangs of vandals and hood 🐀.
When did Obama fire Mattis? And word is Mattis resigned before Trump asked for it, so that’s hardly a ‘firing’ as well. But maybe most of all, why does this stable genius think he coined the nickname ‘Mad Dog’?
Glad to see him prove Mattis’s point about the lack of adult leadership, though.
Literally took me a 5 sec Google search.
“President Barack Obama fired General James Mattis, the head of Central Command, without even calling the general to let him know he was being replaced.”
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/weekly-standard/obama-fires-top-general-without-even-a-phone-call
So if you don’t know you’ve been fired are you actually fired?
kinda like the guy in the basement with the stapler?
“And I said, I don’t care if they lay me off either, because I told, I told Bill that if they move my desk one more time, then, then I’m, I’m quitting, I’m going to quit. And, and I told Don too, because they’ve moved my desk four times already this year, and I used to be over by the window, and I could see the squirrels, and they were merry, but then, they switched from the Swingline to the Boston stapler, but I kept my Swingline stapler because it didn’t bind up as much, and I kept the staples for the Swingline stapler and it’s not okay because if they take my stapler then I’ll set the building on fire…”
~ Milton Waddams, Office Space
I have my very own red Swingline stapler. It was a birthday gift from a very good friend when I said I was leaving the work world behind. She muttered something about “two point five more and I’m gone, too….”
Where did you read in that Tweet that he said he “coined” the term? He said he “changed” to Mad Dog which could easily mean he changed from calling him Chaos to calling him Mad Dog.
And here I thought you prided yourself on your “nuanced” thinking, LC. Or is that one of the other gadflies that buzzes in here?
Mattis was known as “Mad Dog” when he was CO of 7th Marines (probably earlier), and was known to have the call sign “chaos” about that time.
Many in the Marine Corps called him the “warrior monk” because he was a bachelor and was had a large personal library.
That’s why I don’t think Trump was saying what LC is so gleefully claiming, Senior Chief. Trump knows he didn’t originate that nickname and he wasn’t claiming that he did.
It’s just something else for LC to pick at.
I don’t understand why he feels the need to lie about such easily disprovable claims. Does it even sound logical that Mattis would write such a scathing resignation letter at the behest of Trump? And he changed his nickname to Mad dog? Pretty sure he had that call sign long before he worked for him. Sounds like Donny is trying to rewrite history again.
Some Guy,
My spider senses tell me you are wrong, but just so we are clear, I am voting for the Trumpminator regardless, because the Dems don’t have anyone that have the slightest idea of how to run the economy, or rather, how to let the economy freely run.
So save your keystrokes.
And I am sorry you hate Trump so much. It can blind people. MAGA 2020.
Oh no,my evil plan to change your mind and make you write in Hillary and Soros has failed! Curse your superior intellect!
What makes you think I give even the slightest of shits about your opinion? Can’t a guy just vent by pointing out but a small fraction of our dear leader’s myriad errors without being accused of hating a man, he doesn’t even know? For the record,I don’t plan on voting Democrat either. Maybe if they had rigged it for a less senile candidate, but as it is, I’ll probably just give my vote to the green party or libertarians. God knows the little guys could use some help.
Anyway, good luck with the Drumpster fire. I hope your love for him hasn’t blinded you either.
“but as it is, I’ll probably just give my vote to the green party or libertarians.”… So you are voting democrat.. got it..
some guy: Oh no,my evil plan to change your mind and make you write in Hillary and Soros has failed! Curse your superior intellect! This is the attitude of many on the left… They honest to God think that their anti-Trump rants will get people to turn against President Trump. I’ve seen discussions, from those who are on the left on my Facebook, discuss such. In your case; however, your rants here have more to do with your having narcissism, anger, and control issues. Joe is telling you that you’re not going to change anybody’s political stance here. some guy: What makes you think I give even the slightest of shits about your opinion? His statement doesn’t indicate that he believes that you care about what he, or what others, think. In fact, your statements here indicate that you don’t care about what we think. You only care about what you do and think. some guy: Can’t a guy just vent by pointing out but a small fraction of our dear leader’s myriad errors without being accused of hating a man, he doesn’t even know? Nobody is saying that you can’t voice your invalid opinion here. Nobody is saying that you can’t be wrong. I say this, as you’re not pointing out any error on President Trump’s part. You’re doing nothing but ranting about what you think are his errors. Nothing but baseless opinion. Your statements here, the tone of your voice, your attitude towards us and the President, indicates that you hate President Trump… Like many leftists do. some guy: For the record, I don’t plan on voting Democrat either. Maybe if they had rigged it for a less senile candidate, but as it is, I’ll probably just give my vote to the green party or libertarians. God knows the little guys could use some help. You’d be voting against your conscience if you were to vote libertarian. You argued against some responses that had a libertarian bent to them. Green would be in your lane, but I wouldn’t be surprised if you voted for Joe Biden in the… Read more »
Some Guy: I don’t understand why he feels the need to lie about such easily disprovable claims.
Wrong. He’s not lying, and he’s not making false claims. Every attempt I’ve seen, to “prove” President Trump “wrong” was an attempt to baffle the audience with BS. The “rebuttal” itself being easily proven wrong.
Some Guy: Does it even sound logical that Mattis would write such a scathing resignation letter at the behest of Trump?
President Trump didn’t tell him what to write in the resignation letter. He simply asked for a resignation letter. It was up to James Mattis to put what he put into the letter. He did just that, providing his opinion on what the President should’ve done instead.
President Trump would’ve gladly accepted the resignation letter regardless of what James Mattis wrote. Heck, he could’ve put this down: “I resign because President Trump is a doo doo head”, and President Trump would’ve accepted his resignation letter.
Some Guy: And he changed his nickname to Mad dog? Pretty sure he had that call sign long before he worked for him.
Just like Helpful Medal, you have reading comprehension problems. President Trump is not saying that he invented the “Mad Dog” call sign. He’s saying that he didn’t like the “Chaos” call sign and changed it to another call sign.
Your statement is like saying that you invented the gaming system that you switched to because you didn’t like the gaming system you were playing.
Some Guy: Sounds like Donny is trying to rewrite history again.
Wrong. President Trump is telling it like it is. You, and others on the left, consistently try to change history. You made your attempts here by taking President Trump out of context… Like what Helpful Medal did… Instead of addressing reality.
thebesig, you do realize that the only reason Bernie dropped out of the race is that he was told to do so, right? And the reason Biden got the nod is that he is so close to senile dementia, he can easily be manipulated into doing whatever he’s told to do? The DICs are licking their lips of this, you know, which is why all the focus is on manufactured and staged riots by the Antifas: it’s all Trump’s fault.
As much as I’d love to see Bide grab Nancy Ann’s ass and have her smack him so hard his teeth go flying out the door, I think this one is going to be so close that it will just squeak by.
The financial analysts who have been touting a continuing recession into 2021-2022 are now saying into 2023. And throwing money at it (which we don’t really have) will keep the peasants quiet, right?
I doubt that another manufactured ‘pandemic episode’ will impress anyone at all, nor will it keep the peasants quiet. But if the Dems are plotting/planning what I think they’re up to, we’ll be back in the Depression era and the country will go broke. FDR’s work programs (CCC, WPA, PWA, TVA) put people back to work. The current Dems won’t do anything like that.
I’d love to see them get blamed for it, and for whatever financial disasters might follow. I just hope it won’t shut down the Walmart and Aldi and other stores near me.
I believe that we’re going to bounce back economically. President Trump set economic policies in place that increased our economy’s chances of withering this and recovering on the other side. Things could’ve been worse had he not done that.
Had Hillary won the election, we’d already be in an economic depression right now, one comparable or worse than the great depression.
We had an economic depression in the early 1920s, the free market was allow to adjust and recover. The result was the roaring ’20s. Government intervention with the economy worsened the depression of the ’30s. FDR got government shovel ready jobs in line, but his policies were hostile to businesses… The folks that could’ve brought us an economic boom in the 1930s.
President Trump did a lot to change the economic environment. He loves challenges like what he faced throughout his presidency.
Democrat antics have red pilled many people. I’m seeing parallels between this election cycle and the one that took place in 1984.
I told you Mad Dog Mattis was a globalist anti-trumper.
Past services do not guarantee future performance.
Stars tend to indicate “political flunky”, else they tend to top out at LTC.
You appear to have been correct.
Alas…
Well, even a broken clock is right occasionally.
Right because the guy who said this is a strict Constitutionalist Conservative….
“I like taking guns away early,” Trump said. “Take the guns first, go through due process second.”
That it came to naught is irrelevant, that the CinC admitted to being open to violating your second amendment rights by first violating your right to due process puts a little accuracy in the General’s comment about the Constitution.
I think I’ve been consistent that Trump is better than Hillary, but that’s a pretty low bar…
I’m not a Mattis lover by any stretch of the imagination, but neither can I pretend that Trump has been a staunch supporter of your 2nd amendment rights with the bump stock ban and the comment above it’s pretty clear he’s at least flexible in his personal views regarding your right to keep and bear arms regardless of what the Constitution proclaims.
There no “reasonable” infringements on your protected rights.
I had to check that for accuracy, and yep, he said it.
I never considered Trump to be some paragon of constitutionality. However, those words are most definitely worrisome. This may be a case of him shooting his mouth off before engaging his brain, again.
Before this drummed up pandemic hit, he was on a roll the likes of which I personally have never witnessed. Despite the most outrageous headwinds in opposition.
Hillary isn’t even in the same ballpark as Trump, IMO. YMMV.
Spot on VoV
Originally posted by Veritas Omnia Vincit: Right because the guy who said this is a strict Constitutionalist Conservative…. “I like taking guns away early,” Trump said. “Take the guns first, go through due process second.” That it came to naught is irrelevant, that the CinC admitted to being open to violating your second amendment rights by first violating your right to due process The bolded portion looks like it was taken from a propaganda piece that takes President Trump out of context. However, if you take his whole statement in context, you get a totally different story: “…Or might take the firearms first and then go to court because that’s another system because a lot of times by the time you go to court, it takes so long to go to court to get the due process procedures… I like taking the guns early like this crazy man’s case that just took place in Florida. He had a lot of firearms, they saw everything to go to court would’ve taken a long time. You could do exactly what you’re saying but take the guns first and then go through due process…” — President Trump What had just happened when he made that statement? The Parkland shootings. The FBI received a tip on the shooter. They apparently did not do anything against the shooter. He ended up carrying out his shooting. What President Trump suggested here is similar to what is in the Patriot Act. President Trump is talking about taking action against somebody, who is going to be a threat, and would carry that threat out before any due process could take its course authorizing such action. The Patriot Act mentions a situation where a terrorist is about to carry out a deadly attack. This attack would be carried out long before the due process could be completed. In this scenario, action can be taken against the terrorist before due process is completed. However, due process would take place either concurrently, or after the fact, but would take place anyway. President Trump was recommending this concept for those identified as… Read more »
Veritas Omnia Vincit: a little accuracy in the General’s comment about the Constitution. There was no accuracy with regards to the general’s comment comparing President Trump’s action to the Constitution. Under the Constitution, the president, being in charge of the executive branch of the government, is responsible for enforcing the laws of the land. When you have both local and state governments refusing to take effective action to restore law and order, then it becomes the federal government’s job to do so. The Constitution gives the president the authority to call forth the militia to carry this out. As of the time the Founders crafted the Constitution, they were not envisioning a standing army. They still expected an organized militia to handle the duties that would normally be handled by the military. So, by federalizing the National Guard to restore law and order, President Trump would still be carrying out the Founding Fathers’ intent. Veritas Omnia Vincit: I think I’ve been consistent that Trump is better than Hillary, but that’s a pretty low bar. I’m not a Mattis lover by any stretch of the imagination, but neither can I pretend that Trump has been a staunch supporter of your 2nd amendment rights with the bump stock ban According to the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives, bump stocks were banned on the account that they allowed multiple rounds to be fired with a single trigger pull. This made them equivalent to automatic fire weapons… Vice a semi-automatic weapon. President Trump’s bump stock ban brings this in line with law that’s currently on the books. Possession of automatic firearms was banned in the ’80s. The bump stock circumvented that ban, and it did so courtesy of bureaucracy. The law intended that the public possesses semiautomatic weapons vice automatic weapons. Challenges to this ban have been brought to the court system. Veritas Omnia Vincit:and the comment above it’s pretty clear he’s at least flexible in his personal views regarding your right to keep and bear arms regardless of what the Constitution proclaims. If you’re talking about the comment that you quoted,… Read more »
I was already troubled over Mattis’ apparent insubordination.
Looks like he’s just another of those carefully camoflauged never Trumpers who are constantly trying to sabotage the President.
Mattis has lost all credibility to me.
Yeah right…say about 90 percent on here were riding the Mattis bandwagon before you turned on him. Give me a break…lol
Comical some of these post badmouthing the dude.
Speaking strictly for myself, about the only thing I truly “knew” about GEN Mattis, when he was selected as SECDEF, was that he was a Marine and apparently enjoyed a good rep with the Corps.
Never having been a Marine, how was I to know much else?
ISIS got dealt with, so good job. Then he apparently has a disagreement with POTUS about when to pull out of Syria, leaving troops in place, etc.
Over the past 3 1/2 years, it’s become pretty clear that the Trump administration has had a bunch of bad actors planted within. It would be very interesting to learn who was doing these staffing recommendations. Not being a DC swamprat, Trump went with those recommendations, because, how was he to know otherwise.
So, up until two days ago, my opinion on Mattis was still largely positive, with the exception of him appearing to border on insubordinate (to POTUS) in the days before his resignation as SECDEF.
Then Dan Bongino pointed out an article at the Atlantic by Jeffery Goldberg dated 3JUN20.
Here is the link to the article where Goldberg pastes a copy of Mattis’ letter.
Read it for yourself. That is what I based my comments on. New data, know what I mean? New information severely altered my opinion of GEN Mattis, and not in a good way.
YMMV
My mileage is roughly the same as yours. My opinion of Mattis has gone down significantly. Very disappointing.
Yep. I grieve for the Republic.
As a friendly reminder, Mattis butted heads with other senior leadership on the Theranos scam and may have deeper connections to it. Finding out he dressed down a senior doctor who was pretty sure it was a scam was probably the first canary in the coalmine for what we’re seeing here and probably the most surprising part I learned about that whole mess.
I recently finished Mattis’s ‘Call Sign Chaos’ and enjoyed it very much. I think it could be a resource to use in a leadership course, and I commented on LinkedIn that I thought it would have been valuable to me when I was a J.O.
But… on page XIII of the Prologue, he states this:
“I’m old fashioned: I don’t write about sitting Presidents.”
Now he’s writing as if he has been subsumed by the Swamp/Deep State, and I have to wonder why? Dead girl, live boy?
Two points about his article:
1. He bemoans the fact that Trump is not a ‘unifier’ and doesn’t even try to be. He’s completely blind to the fact that Trump was not elected to be a unifier, he was elected to ‘drain the swamp’, ‘crush the deep state’, or however you want to characterize it. To get rid of as many of these smug, entrenched, entitled parasites with their six figure sinecures as possible.
2. He decries the action in Lafayette Park, as some kind of military action against peaceful protesters. The acting Chief of the Park Police issued this statement:
https://www.nps.gov/subjects/uspp/6_2_20_statement_from_acting_chief_monahan.htm
Now I choose to believe the Chief. Others may choose to believe media reporters with an agenda tweeting on twitter.
That’s where we are.
” I have to wonder why?”
He has been out of uniform for a while, and all the self-restraint and pretense are gradually wearing off. The real Mattis is emerging from the cocoon.
One of their fellow generals gets unconstitutionally kangaroo-courted, every civil right violated: silence.
Rioters burn out cities across America: silence.
Foreign money supports insurrection in America: silence.
American soldiers KNEEL in front of rioters to show their submission: Silence from Matthis and his crowd.
Todays Bongino podcast is a real eye popper. He’s been solid so far, so that tells me that this is real … and real scary.
Apparently some DOD uniforms and civies are considering mutiny.
These traitors don’t seem to understand that the USA is not the Roman Empire … we don ‘t have a Praetorian Guard deciding who will be Emperor.
I guess LTG Flynn is the last true patriot with stars.
Back in 1950, Harry Truman compared the USMC public relations capabilities to those of Joseph Stalin’s propaganda apparatus, bringing the wrath of the Corps down on his head.
You don’t get to be a four star in the Corps without learning to employ those capabilities to your own best effect and Mattis is no no exception, knowing full well that it’s always the generals and admirals critical of Republican presidents/CINC’s who get all the media ink and airtime.
He cutting a book deal as we speak should hit the streets a month before the election! Anybody siding with the Democrats because his butt got hurt is a quitter! Just because you Make GO doesn’t make you right all the time! He’s working for some CNN, and MSN cash! Follow the money
Mattis,
Your senility is showing. You would think he would appreciate a decisive leader who faces trouble head on. Hope Mattis gets the right medications soon….
VERY interesting article from Rolling Stone Magazine: “Spare Us Your ‘Mad Dog’ Mattis Worship”: https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/political-commentary/james-mattis-trump-mullen-allen-protests-white-house-constitution-police-1010164/ “Here come the generals.” “A procession of decorated former U.S. military leaders has spoken out in recent days to gravely denounce President Trump and his unmistakably authoritarian response to the demonstrations against police violence and racial injustice sparked by the death of George Floyd.” “James Mattis, a retired Marine Corps four-star general, accused Trump of shredding the Constitution with the violent removal of protesters outside the White House so that Trump could stage a photo op. Mattis, who was Trump’s first secretary of defense, said Americans were “witnessing the consequences of three years without mature leadership.” “John Allen, a retired Marine Corps four-star general and former commander of U.S. forces in Afghanistan, warned that the “slide of the United States into illiberalism may well have begun on June 1, 2020,” the day of Trump’s crackdown and photo op. “Remember the date. It may well signal the beginning of the end of the American experiment.” “Mike Mullen, a retired Navy admiral and a former chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, the highest ranking military position in the country, penned an essay titled “I Cannot Remain Silent” in which he wrote that Trump’s conduct “laid bare his disdain for the rights of peaceful protest in this country, gave succor to the leaders of other countries who take comfort in our domestic strife, and risked further politicizing the men These condemnations immediately found an eager audience among the Beltway crowd. The cable networks breathlessly covered them. The words of Mullen, Mattis, and Allen were described as “scathing,” “powerful,” “careful,” “hugely important,” “remarkable,” “striking,” “stunning,” “necessary,” and “overdue.” “Sen. Bernie Sanders called Mattis’ statement “extraordinary.” Barack Obama called Mullen’s essay “extraordinary.” “Here is another extraordinary quote from Mattis. It was 2004 and he was a major general and commander of the 1st Marine Division fighting in Iraq. American forces had just bombed a wedding party near the Iraq-Syria border. According to the Guardian, dozens of people were killed, among them wedding guests and the band hired to perform… Read more »
Mullen: ….laid bare his disdain for the rights of peaceful protest in this country….
Uh, what is Mullen smoking? I dint see no peaceful protests over da weekend. I saw looting, pillaging, destruction of private property, destruction of lots of businesses that could have started up this week, and all that dorkwad saw was peaceful protests?
Well, there were some in the daylight, yes, but when the sun went down, did his head hit the pillow because it’s all so boring?
What planet does he live on?
What planet, indeed.
That’s from Rolling Stone?!? Color me shocked. This would be the first thing Rolling Stone has said in a long long time that I agree with. I may have to start reading it again. Then again, I don’t care much for officers in general, and the more senior the less I care.
It would also be nice if those GOFOs learned a little history. Pres. Eisenhower (a former GOFO himself) sent troops from the 101 AB Div. to Little Rock, Arkansas in 1957 to stop rioting. LBJ sent regular troops into DC to help stop the 1968 riots.
IMHO, this is about two things. One there is some remaining and underlying animosity over some of their time in the administration. They and the president have very large ego’s and are used to having things done their way, and this caused problems, and frankly, much as it may sound odd, there are hurt feelings. The other is the issue of using troops to keep the peace. These generals were in the service during very dark times in terms of how the services were perceived by the public and no one who has served, and in particular in those times, in the decade just after Vietnam, wants it to ever be like that again. The services now hold a more honorable place in the view of society in general and they cherish this. They believe they are in large part responsible for this, and are very afraid of anything tarnishing or undoing what they accomplished in this regard. They see what was proposed as something that could divide the country once again in terms of their support for the military and don’t want to see that happen. It certainly is something to be thoughtfully debated, but it seems they ave taken a very myopic view, and instead of discussion have taken the opportunity to lash out, while at the same time skewing facts and telling part truths. I for one do not like it.
Hadn’t looked at it from that perspective. You may be on to something.
And yes, even if true, very short-sighted indeed.
When this first came to my attention, my initial thought was: “Deep-state swamp-thing?” (I.e., Mattis.)
You guys’ conversation above, followed by Sebastian Gorka’s rebuke (10 mins; https://youtu.be/tK4s1dDot1g ), pretty much reinforced my initial hunch.
One has to wonder what happened between Trump and the Corps for three of their four-stars to have such raging hard-on’s for him. It may have something to do with Trump’s brash, unorthodox and undisciplined verbalizing and tactics which are assuredly taboo in the most hidebound of services. I can see where Trump would grate on such men but I cannot condone their own political tactics either.
What is evident is that in all their decades as Marines, they qualified expert in media manipulation, as good Marine GO’s should.
Is there a qualification badge and bar for that?