The unprotected class (Updated)

| April 16, 2009

When TSO wrote that post the other day about the Department of Homeland Security’s report on “right-wing extremists” I was so pissed I couldn’t see straight. And before TSO identified the “prominent civil rights organization“, I knew which it’d be. But, even the public outcry from veteran groups can’t end this despicable smear. One prominent blogger from the Right whom I respect deeply, and won’t name, whisked the report away under his electronic rug and advised us to ignore it because it didn’t say what we thought it said.

I started to pen a note to him to explain that he was wrong this time, but I didn’t want to see what that note would have turned into if I’d hit the “send” button. So I’ll just do it here where I have control of the context.

I retired from the Army nearly 15 years ago after serving for 20 years – the math would tell you that I came in during the final year of the existence of South Vietnam. The Left had successfully shamed anyone out of joining the military. The veteran as maniacal killing machine is widely accepted as fact.

Since I’ve retired, I’ve seen such a bias and prejudgment of military members by all sectors of society. My work mates have no problem telling me that all veterans are crazy – not as a joke, but as a matter of fact. When I started to have the discussion this morning about the DHS report, one woman was unfazed by the report, because, as she said, “Well, they are the most dangerous people in America – the DHS should keep their eyes on them”. Huh? I was so mad, I could spit.

If I’d made a similar revelation about, say, Salvadorans and their well-known skill with a machete, everyone in the room would have rushed to their defense. And everyone knows that those Japanese people are all ninjas, right? And those Africans are all cannibals, right? Offensive – you betcha. So why isn’t it offensive to tell a veteran that all veterans are lunatics and homicidal maniacs?

Well, for one thing, there are folks like IVAW who perpetuate that myth. In fact here’s a blog post of sorts from our friend, Major Ass Clown Darnell Stephen Summers, in which he perpetuates the myth that all Vietnam veterans were potheads because he was a pothead. And because he was a pothead and all of the IVAW ass clowns are potheads, then the whole military is a bunch of potheads. Well, except the old burnt out “lifers”, of course, who are all alcoholics;

He’s a major ignorant dick who can’t see past the end of his stupid nose. And a communist.

There’s a Vietnam veteran in my office who was a supply clerk in a depot in Vietnam who never heard a shot fired in anger, but played the role to the hilt. He got away with tons of shit around the office until I became the “other combat veteran” in the office and shamed him into stopping. It’s the minority of veterans who play the Hollywood role so they can get away with shit that allows the imbeciles on the Left to demean and degrade us.

PTSD is virtually meaningless anymore – with shit heads like Chiroux who claims he suffers from PTSD because he heard war stories. Everyone claims PTSD – it’s almost normal. It’s like the whiplash of jerk-ass derelicts.

But back to the DHS report; I don’t understand how anyone from the Right can not see in that DHS report that it intentionally highlighted returning military personnel as dangerous future terrorists as the last resort to shame troops into getting on the Obama plantation. After every bit of political maneuvering of this administration and as a campaign, how can anyone doubt this wasn’t intentional?

In the interview that Napolitano did with Fox News, she said the word apology, but stopped short of an apology. She said it was an “assessment” – but the “assessment” is based on false assumptions. Allow me to demonstrate.

She made the specious statement that McVeigh got his training in the military. McVeigh was a Bradley gunner in the same division that I went to Desert Storm with – no one I know got any “training” in anything McVeigh did that day in Oklahoma City. Nothing. He built a truck bomb, he parked a truck bomb, he ran away. Check the eleven-mike skill level two tasks. He was never trained by the Army to do those things. Any doofus off of the block could accomplish those things without ever having served in the military.

The fact that McVeigh was a veteran wasn’t even relevant to his crime, but it’s something veterans get beat over the head with in every discussion. How about if I pronounced that Blacks are dangerous because of John Muhammad, the DC sniper? How much shit would I get? But, police were looking for the DC sniper among white veterans and blamed the shootings on right wing groups. Did we get an apology when it was discovered they were wrong? I don’t remember one.

Muhammad was a mechanic who happened to fire “expert” with the M16 once. That means he hit 36 out of 40 targets – and because he was a mechanic, he probably shot on the 25-meter range with tiny targets instead of the full-sized range. That’s how mechanics qualify generally. He didn’t even do all of the shooting – Malvo shot at least one victim in the series of slayings and he’d never served a day in the Army.

And if it was an “assessment”, why didn’t the Bush Administration arrive at the same assessment?

Anyone ever wonder why veterans and military members generally support smaller government? It’s because we know stuff about the massive failures of government – it’s because we took care of each other as individuals – we always knew we couldn’t depend on the government to care of us. When our government-supplied tools broke at a crucial time, we knew the guy on our right and left would protect us and pick up our slack while we jerry-rigged the broke dick equipment. We know the strength of individuals while our current administration finds that experience dangerous.

Rurik has a much better piece he wrote when he was blogging at Old War Dogs about Veterans as an Ethnic Minority.

Added: First thing in the morning, I’m resigning my VFW life membership and joining the American Legion. Thanks to Olga for the link.

Ray sends us an appropriate demotivational poster;
Splain

Category: Barack Obama/Joe Biden, Iraq Veterans Against the War, Liberals suck, Usual Suspects

25 Comments
Inline Feedbacks
View all comments
AW1 Tim

Thank you, Jonn. Thank you for saying what needs to be said.

I find it onerous in the extreme that, having taken an oath to protect and defend the Constitution, with my life if needs be, I am now considered a threat by the very government which was enabled by that Great Document.

My own son is preparing to go in harm’s way shortly. His unit is beyond pissed by that DHS document.

respects,

TSO

I’m now glad I didn’t write the post I was, because you said everything I was thinking, only much better.

I think of the guys coming back, and the ones I served with. If there was an occupation that a plurality of the younger guys wanted, it was in Law Enforcement. Now envision one of those kids going in to try to get a job, and the chief or whoever has just read this report. Will it change his/her mind about hiring a veteran of OEF/OIF? In 95% of the cases, no, probably not. But there’s going to be that one person who doesn’t give that vet a chance, and frankly, that’s a damn shame.

I know what blogger you are referring to, and I honestly feel let down. Guys like Ed Morrissey and Ace totally get it, and I appreciate them saying what they are.

This report was in no way an academic report, and I hate taking issue with another blogger that I have immense respect for who thinks it is. This paper had no footnotes, no data to support the claims, and certainly no positive role in intelligence gathering that I can divine. The report said that extremists would try to recruit military guys, no shit. It gave no specifics, no indicia that one should look for, nothing.

It’s just yet another wall between civilians and veterans that need not exist. We represent everything that America is, multi-national, diverse in political and social classes, and all that the ideal of the melting pot seeks to encapsulate.

But these men and women stepped up to the plate to serve their country, and for that they deserve our praise. And the assholes in IVAW, guys like Darnell and others of their ilk are robbing them of that. And all the DHS has done with the issuance of this report is become willing accomplices. I can’t decide if I am more mad or sad reading what these people think of us.

WOTN

Jonn, I don’t know which blogger you’re referring to, but absent from the debate on that report is WOTN. I can assure you that this is not a case of silence implying consent. The door was simply already blown wide open by the time we realized this particular report existed.

WOTN stands with TAH and Bouhammer in condemnation of the report, Neopolitan DHS, and the entire anti-Veteran administration that has supported to various degrees the report and its slanderous allegations.

Jonn wrote: No worries. The blogger I’m talking about is widely known and specifically wrote a post in the tone I mentioned.

AW1 Tim

What gets to me is that I am given to understand that the document released is only a sort of “cliff notes” version of a classified document that DHS has kept inhouse. If this is the case, then that document, regardless of it’s classification, needs to be released, and that post haste.

This document, to my eyes, was a warning shot against all those who were attending “Tea Parties” on the 15th, and one has to wonder how many read this hit piece, and decided that Falstaff was right when he said that “discretion is the better part of valour”, and stayed home.

1stCavRVN11B

Napolitano should remember how she cared so much about ensuring equal employment. Many women are veterans too.

http://www.slate.com/blogs/blogs/xxfactor/archive/2008/11/20/the-long-history-of-janet-napolitano.aspx

[What many don’t know about Napolitano—or don’t remember—is that she first came onto the national stage in 1991 as an attorney representing Anita Hill during the Senate Judiciary Committee’s hearings on Clarence Thomas. (Joe Biden chaired the committee at that time and is remembered for his ham-handedness in dealing with the sensitive topic of sexual harassment.) Napolitano was in charge of preparing the testimonies of Hill’s supporting witnesses, and she credits her involvement in the case with deepening her commitment to electoral politics. “It really did bring home how issues of women really didn’t have an avenue to be heard at that time,” Napolitano told me during our May interview. “I think that from Professor Hill’s standpoint, that experience cost her a lot personally. But I think she should have a satisfaction in knowing, but for that experience, the fact that women need to be treated fairly and are entitled to go to work without being harassed—when they’re in the workplace trying to earn a living—would never have gained the prominence it did and all the protections we now have.”]

And another trait of Napolitano…

[…She’s really smart, tough, and funny, dropping Monty Python lines in official meetings. A cabinet with both Napolitano and Hillary Clinton in it would be chock-full of female power…]

Our country is so screwed. Janet Reno & Janet Napolitano; are they kin?

AW1 Tim

Can you imagine what would have happened in this country, and especially in the press, if Waco, Ruby Ridge, or the Elian Gonzalez affair had happened during W’s presidency?

Yeah… me too.

J3

I don’t know which blogger is referred to but hope it is not one who goes by “Sebastian’ – who pretends to be a right wing standup guy but in reality is just one more gutless appeaser. Anyway, I did write our one good Senator here, Richard Shelby, and ask for his public condemnaiton of this whoe thing. Our OTHER senator kissed the Obama ring and supported Eric “Erkle” Holder all the way, so we know where he stands… or lies… but it is my hope that this will continue to gain steam and spread nationwide. Remember – it’s not just Vets, but Christians, pro-lifers, memebrs of Patriot and Constitutionalist groups, opponents of illegal immigration – in short, anyone who is NOT a marxist, weather-person, illegal alien, traitor or military deserter.
Napolitano needs to GO and so does the whole damned communist DHS.
BTW – Reno may be Napolitano’s father. Remember that joke in the Clinton years – why is Chelsea so ugly? Because her Mom is Hillary and her Dad is Janet Reno?

Just A Grunt

Jonn what you say is true, as far as the general public reaction to veterans. I have my own litmus test I will do on people who know me but don’t know I am a veteran. At some time I will throw out the line “You know I am veteran and could go off at any time”, and then look at their faces to gauge their reaction. Some folks who have known me for years at work often have a strange look. I don’t know if it is the revelation that I am a veteran or they suddenly think I am going to go postal on them. You know cause I don’t act like one of THEM.
I saw the interview on Fox and Friends live this morning and my initial reaction was she didn’t apologize for anything. She dodged it. I waited for the video to be available online and watched it again, least I was being too sensitive or reading too much into it. I wasn’t. I stand by my initial reaction.
Granted this report started under the Bush administration, but what it points to is that there are folks in DHS and the intelligence community who are so politically involved that they are doing the agencies they work for and as a result this country a great disservice by classifying a wide swath it’s own citizens as threats to the republic.
Apparently a bigger threat then illegal aliens and those man induced calamities that may befall us from our contingency operations against an undefined enemy.

YatYas

Thanks once again Jonn for putting into words what I felt inside reading about this. TSO, don’t worry too much about returning veterans getting into Law Enforcement. There are plenty here in SoCal that have switched to Blue or Tan after completing their service and are highly respected for it.

Nixon

Can’t we just put this whole DHS report behind us and agree that Charles Johnson is a total douchebag. Have you seen his latest tiff with Glenn Beck?? What a weenie.

Jen06

I’m pretty sure I know which blogger you referred to and I, too, was rather surprised at the opinion expressed. Seemed out of character.

God bless the US Military

ponsdorf

Heh, I renewed my Legion membership the day I caught their reaction.

I’ll not give up my life membership in the VFW just yet, I aim to do some emailing and phone calls first.

Steve

I must say that Glen M. Gardner Jr., the national Commander of the Veterans of Foreign Wars was very calm in his statement. I am sure he was just trying to keep the 2.2 million-members calm. He was probably just as pissed off as I was but as the national Commander he leads from the front & does what he must. I have also received phone calls & E-Mails about the comments from this nice lady but as the local Post Commander I also must try & calm everyone down.
I hope no one would actually cancel there membership to a great organization like the VFW because of this crap.

bertie

I only have one friend who voted for Obama so I sent her two emails about the report so she’d know how dangerous Obama’s DHS thinks I am. The best one was a picture of a little girl holding a sign, “I AM the Freedom-Loving, Pro-Life, Constitution-Supporting Patriot HOMELAND SECURITY WARNED YOU ABOUT!” Point being, the report targeted not only veterans but also those of us who are the strongest supporters of the military. It was such a broad shot I think it hit 70% or more of all Americans.

If I thought any of them would read it, I’d send my copy of “Stolen Valor” to DHS. But, of course, we all know facts never really have any effect on their ideology.

In my opinion, the entire “report” (which is really more like a liberal op-ed piece which could have been written by William Ayers) needs to be retracted.

BohicaTwentyTwo

CNN was running flack for the DHS report this morning. They said that ‘conservatives’ were blowing the report out of proportion because it only says that veterans were being “targeted for recruiting” by “right-wing extremists”. I don’t buy this because if veterans were only being targeted, they wouldn’t be considered a threat. Obviously, someone at DHS thinks that veterans are susceptible to recruitment, probably because we were all duped into the military by their recruiters too.

SoldierMom

Thanks, Jonn. I’ve been enjoying your blog and find that I must be trouble, too, because I generally agree with you.
I had the option of military service at about the same time you started out. I am one of those who “the Left…successfully shamed…out of joining the military.” I have regretted it since. Now, with three sons who are soldiers, I am serving, although in a different capacity. I see my kids being subjected, even by their own families, to the kind of discrimination and treatment you discuss here. After a total of three deployments, I think these people would see that my boys are not the “typical” soldier. [Although, I’d have to say, (hint, hint) as a mom, I could hear less “military mouth.”] Thank you for your service, and for your continued service in opening some eyes.

Spade

If I was in, I’d be resigning. And pointing at this report as to why.

John 5 (VN69/70)

Outstanding John, You said what needs to be said and heard by the whole Country, Thanks.

Floyd Collins

Love it. Use and abuse-than trash us.

TSO

OK Nixon, I am officially joining you, Charles Johnson is a total douchebag. Can’t read his stuff anymore. Once again ridiculing those of us who think this is big shit. But, he’s entitled to that opinion, what with having been special ops and stuff.

Rurik

Thank you Jonn for the kind words, but I disagree slightly when you wrote “Rurik has a much better piece he wrote when he was blogging at Old War Dogs about Veterans as an Ethnic Minority” What you wrote here is every bit as good as what I wrote. A bit more topically focused, but at least as good. Maybe you meant “…much better piece than his usual scribbles”. I’d agree to that.

And 1stCav, thanks for the reminder about Nappy’s background. You raise another interesting point; it looks to me as if Janet Nappy just might be the son Janet Reno always wanted. And you know what that would make her. … and an ugly one too.

I suppose I ought to thank Nappy for trimming 35 years off my age. It feels just like the early 1970s again, except now I understand better what is going on. I truly think this has serious bearing on the current topic of PTSD. Based on informal, but informed observation and personal experience, I came to believe that much of the PTSD problem at that time was the result of the troops’ negative reception upon returning home. Not all PTSD, but a significant number of cases were provoked by it, and most were made worse. Thanks hippie scum. And of course, for those veterans returning now with genuine PTSD, those Potomac Pond Scum ought to stop and reflect that perhaps “reports” such as this just might discourage veterans from seeking the help they need at the price of getting their names “on a list of suspects”. Thanks neo-hippie scum.

I am surprised that such supposedly bright intelectuals as these Potomac Pond Scum are unfamiliar with the concept of Self-fulfilling Prophecy. And by the way, what will be the effect of providing training, with less discipline, to Obama’s forthcoming Civilian National Seccurity Posse?

Frankly Opinionated

As much as I dislike Janet Napalitano, and her Liberal Homeland Security; they do have the cash register at my online shop running nonstop. My “Proud United States Veteran Extremist”, and My “Proud Right Wing Extremist” designs are selling well today. Keep shooting yourself in the foot woman, (well, sort of “woman”).
nuf sed

Ray

I’ll say this for Janet Nappy… she sure did prove she could sing on “Brittan’s Got Talent”.

Airborne Injun

Ray…You are sooooo right!!!!! FLAO!

the one who loves his country

thanks for putting this out there for all you liberal comme swine i have one thing to say and that is fuck you i wil keep my gun, money, and freedom. you can keep the god damn change you ass wipes