Captain Warned That Crew Wasn’t Ready Before Sub Ran Aground, Investigation Shows

| March 4, 2020


The Ohio-class guided-missile submarine USS Georgia (SSGN 729) exits the dry dock on March 22, 2019, at Naval Submarine Base Kings Bay, Georgia, following an extended refit period. (Bryan Tomforde/U.S. Navy)

Was this 2015 mishap a precursor to the 2017 deadly collisions of both USS Fitzgerald and McMain in the South China Sea? Green crew, sleep deprived, and over tasked. The boat’s (traditionally submarines, even those the size of an Ohio, in this case SSGN, are referred to as ‘boats’) CO call’s for help were ignored. So against his judgement and in fear of charges of insubordination he complied with disastrous results.

By Hope Hodge Seck

A newly released investigation from a submarine mishap in 2015 that caused some $1 million worth of damage shows that an inexperienced crew was given the go-ahead to complete a tricky return-to-port mission in the dark, despite warnings from the commanding officer that they weren’t ready.

The Ohio-class submarine Georgia ran aground in the predawn hours of Nov. 25, 2015, the day before Thanksgiving, as it prepared to return to port at Kings Bay, Georgia, to replace a failed towed array sonar. While conducting a scheduled pick-up of a new pilot at Fort Clinch, Florida, near the entrance to St. Marys River, which approaches the base, the sub inadvertently exited the channel, then collided with a buoy amid the crew’s efforts to re-orient. The grounding occurred as the crew worked to get clear of the buoy, the investigation shows.

Ultimately, the sub was able to return to port to assess damages, which were mostly cosmetic, save for the ship’s screw propeller, an acoustic tracking device and an electromagnetic log meter that measured the sub’s speed. The Georgia was taken into dry dock in December 2015 for assessment and the costly repairs.

The investigation, which was completed in March 2016 but just released to Military.com this month through a public records request, found that the “excessive speed” of the sub as it approached the pilot pick-up made it more difficult for the crew to control the ship, and that the tugboat carrying the pilot was positioned poorly, making the maneuver more complex.

Ultimately, though, blame for running aground is laid at the feet of the commanding officer. In the wake of the incident, the commander of Georgia’s blue crew, Capt. David Adams, was relieved of his post due to a loss of confidence in his ability to command. Like all submarines in its class, Georgia has two identical crews — a blue and a gold — that alternate manning and patrols.

“His inability to effectively manage the complexity of the situation and failure to respond to the circumstances in a manner sufficient to protect the safety of the ship and crew is beneath my expectations for any CO,” an investigation endorsement by Rear Adm. Randy Crites, then-commander of Submarine Group 10, reads.

In his detailed and thorough endorsement of findings, Crites also dismisses the notion that maneuvering in the dark and with a green crew was what led to the sub’s disastrous mishap.

“Ultimately, had this crew (and the Pilot) executed the same plan in the same manner during broad daylight, there is nothing in the ship’s planning effort, demonstrated seamanship, or response to tripwires that indicates the outcome would be any different,” he said.

While coming in for the brunt of the blame, Adams was not alone in being designated for punishment. Crites indicated his intent to take administrative action against the sub’s executive officer; chief of boat; navigation/operations officer; weapons officer, who was the officer of the deck; and assistant navigator. He also said he’d issue non-punitive letters of caution to the commander of Submarine Squadron 16 and his own chief of staff and director of operations — all Navy captains — for failure to take appropriate action toward resolution regarding Adams’ concerns around the sub’s transit into port.

The only saving grace this time, was no loss of life. Read the rest of the article here: Military Daily News

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penguinman000

The skipper is responsible. Full stop. No exceptions, no excuses.

And a skipper more concerned with his career than his crew’s capability is in the wrong line of work. If he didn’t have the testicular fortitude to make the hard call (that likely would’ve had a negative impact on his career) he has no business as the CO.

That being said, any chain of command that fosters an environment where COs aren’t listened to and are in fear for their careers when they say no to the boss, should be cleaned out with a chain saw.

Without exception, every single good leader and command I served under/in encouraged reasoned dissent in the appropriate venue (you bitch up the chain of command, not down).

The Navy has been steering the wrong course for some time. Stupid policies such as up or out have ensured people get promoted beyond their level of capability. Zero defect mentality has created a generation or 2 of officers and enlisted who don’t know how to take calculated risk. The genius idea of “fast” cruises where the ship is tied up to the pier and not underway fails to teach actual seamanship.

I’ll get off my soap box.

5th/77th FA

‘Ed writes “The fish rots from the head..” Preach!!! Took me awhile to get to this point. Playing catch up on the other threads and reading the linked article AND ninja’s linky below, PLUS the comments thereof from both. The Military Times article has a very expanded synopsis of all of what happened, with extensive comments from sailors that were on the boat when it ran aground, plus commentary from other SWOs, OODs, and COBs. Y’all might want to clicky thingy and peruse some of that. For once, the comments weren’t full of “how much $ you can make at home….” All of that being said, it is obvious that this rot went straight up the line to the CinC at that point in time, and the atmosphere he created amongst Big Navy. The Captain of the Georgia did kinda sorta do the honorable thing in taking responsibility, but he knew the job was dangerous when he took it. Notice that the Flags skated and, as we all know, the cool black dude got a new crib on the beach. Full disclaimer. SiL was a teakettle operator on the Wyoming. He ETSd in ’06. He knew some of the troops that were on this boat. I was at their place for the Thanksgiving Holiday when this happened. I was back down there at Christmas and we continued our conversation of the hows and why fors. The crew was tired but they weren’t as green as the article made out. Basically the Captain stepped on his crank because the whole Flag and Staff of higher were dicks. YMMV Good write up Bro. As an aside, still on a Naval subject, I have kinda sorta enjoyed my rainy day JAG Marathon. They broadcast 9 episodes each Wednesday and I try to catch them, with a break for Gunsmoke of course. A double header that is just ending up had the story of an EP-3 being forced down by the Chi-Coms. For the Naval Aviation Challenged, the EP-3 is an electronic eavesdropping aircraft built on a C-130 frame with engines and wings mounted… Read more »

MustangCryppie

“For the Naval Aviation Challenged, the EP-3 is an electronic eavesdropping aircraft built on a C-130 frame…”

The EP-3 ARIES II is built on a P-3 ORION airframe.

I have many hours flying on the one that was hit by the PRC fighter.

Sadly, we didn’t blow the shit out of it before the Chicoms stripped it.

5th/77th FA

Roger that MC. The C130 snark was an ongoing Gun Bunny (Go Army) AW1 Ed (Beat Navy) dig I throw at him. He usually comes right back at me and tells me to (a) get back in my swim lane (b) STFU or (c) dahell am I gonna do with your dirt digging doggie azz. Supposedly the JAG show is loosely based on actual events on occasions and today they did allude to the fact that today’s strike by a PRCAF was the second time that an EP-3 had been taken out. I don’t watch a whole lot of TV but I do have a very serious crush on Catherine Bell.

I made the comment last century when Nixon FIRST went to China that it was gonna bite us on the ass one day. And here we are.

MustangCryppie

Roger that!

;0)

MustangCryppie

Heh.

David

Met her in Long Beach one year at the Grand Prix. Cameron Diaz was flavor of the month, and was too good to talk to the peons. Catherine Bell was in a driving suit, sweaty, helmet hair… and gorgeous. Friendly, down to earth – think I fell in love a little.

chooee lee

A clear cut case if I ever saw one. The Peter Principle is an observation that the tendency in most organizational hierarchies, such as that of a corporation, is for every employee to rise in the hierarchy through promotion until they reach a level of respective incompetence

ninja

At least the Skipper took responsibilty for his actions instead of blaming the Weather, Other Folks, Politicians, etc etc.:

https://www.navytimes.com/news/your-navy/2016/01/05/submarine-skipper-fired-after-buoy-strike-in-georgia/

“In a statement to Navy Times, the 30-year Navy veteran took responsibility for the accident.”

“The actions that hazarded GEORGIA upon a scheduled return to port in the dark on the morning of 25 Nov. were mine alone,” Adams said in an email. “I ask that my lapses not be used to denigrate the terrific service of the Sailors and families of GEORGIA BLUE. After thirty years of serving in the world’s finest Navy, my only regret is that I will miss sailing with them again to stand against our nation’s enemies.”

BruteLarson407

I read ’15 knots at all stop point’. I don’t know how fast something that big is supposed to be going, but that would have been hauling ass in a 44ft. or 36ft. MLB. Realistically, almost top speed(they were slugs). They could tow a lot though. I also don’t know how fast something like that can slow to a near stop, or over what distance. How fast do you reckon they should have been going? I’d imagine a submarine being pretty powerful. I sympathize with their sleep deprivation. That’s my natural state now. It’s why my posts are sometimes wooden or peculiar. I’d hate to have to do that in my condition. When it read that, ‘The CO’s calls for help were ignored,’ and he went ahead and did it fearing insubordination, what sort of help would he have been asking for? An abort, or a fresh crew to take over? Maybe an order for the other duty section? It seems to me he could have done THAT without anyone else’s approval. We had Port/Starboard sections sort of like that. Sometimes liberty got cancelled. If you were there or near a phone, you were on duty. No cell phones for little people then. Wall St. CEO’s maybe. Apologies for my ignorance, I never served on a larger boat. My highest ranking OinC was an E-8. Most of my training on that stuff was in boot, in another century, and was pretty quickly replaced by SAR/Medical, LE, and small craft stuff. We once got a new coxswain that had served on a large cutter. He started screaming, ‘Avast’ when a guy was feeding out a tow hawser. He couldn’t figure out what in hell he was wanting! I had to yell, “STOP, make it off.” He was just an SA, but in our world that should have made that command fresher in his head. I know, we DO sorta deserve the ‘Hooligan’ Navy’ moniker! Or at least did then, when we were under Dept. of Transportation. Especially at Small Boat STA’s. We got our shit together when it really counted though.… Read more »

xyzzy

You’re pretty articulate in your posts, at least that I’ve seen.

Gotta admit…you’re more articulate than me. 😎

BruteLarson407

Thank you, that’s nice of you! I’m pretty much in a waking dream half the time when I’m doing it(brutal insomnia). It’s a good thing that the ‘reply, cancel reply, report, and post’ icons aren’t accelerators or triggers! I’d probably hurt myself, or worse someone else!

JTB

Thanks Obama…!!!

BruteLarson407

I can see how my questions on that particular kind of boat might not look so good. Probably any kind. They were generalizations, but maybe not so good to ask on an open forum. Belay that original post. I figured it out.

JTB

I wasn’t speaking to you at all…I just think military leadership slipped under his admin…

BruteLarson407

I know, sorry about that! I was going to reply to you that, ‘unfortunately we’ll be thanking him for a long time,’ and decided that was obvious so didn’t. THEN I forgot to hit the cancel reply click and typed that in related to my first post. When I clicked post I thought, ‘shit, I just replied to YOU with that.’
I’m a friggin’ menace doing this. I think I’m just going to stop. Again, didn’t mean to roust you. Sorry to butt in, but it WAS an accident.

OAE CPO USN Ret

“Ultimately, the sub was able to return to port to assess damages, which were mostly cosmetic, save for the ship’s screw propeller, an acoustic tracking device and an electromagnetic log meter that measured the sub’s speed.”

Cosmetic my ass. If they bent the screw, then everything in that drive line needed to be checked to make sure nothing got knocked out of alignment. Screw (that’s a given), shaft, shaft seals, shaft bearings, reduction gears.

xyzzy

I think they meant that the screw was the only damage that wasn’t cosmetic, for the reasons you listed.

But, I could be wrong; I’m no expert. 🤷‍♂️

Thunderstixx

He’s gonna have to live to about 2028 to get that Statement of Charges paid off !!!!
Sucks to be him !!!!

SFC(R) Blizz

I feel for the CPT. unfortunately, if he felt his crew could not execute the task safely, it was his duty to stop the mission and reassess.