Florida to Gain Seats, New York to Lose Seat

| January 3, 2020

Map projecting which states may gain seats, which states will lose seats, and which states will remain the same. (Census Bureau)

Population projections have Florida gaining seats in Congress. New York is projected to lose a seat. Many of the states that are projected to lose seats happen to be “blue” on the electoral map… Based on multiple elections. They also list red states as those that are going to lose seats.

Flight from blue states. (Reddit)

This supports arguments made here and elsewhere with regards to flight from the blue states. A good example is Virginia. Many of the people that came to work in Washington D.C. opted to live in northern Virginia and commute. Housing wasn’t as economic in D.C. or in Maryland.

Then there was the migration from New York and other progressive states to the north. In both examples, those that took up residence, to take advantage of better tax and economic conditions, brought their “progressive” views with them. They voted for the politicians from the same party that created the conditions they moved away from.

From Yahoo:

In all, 15 states may be affected by the once-a-decade congressional reapportionment, according to the estimates, which are based on newly available U.S. Census population data and projected forward to 2020. Arizona, Colorado, Montana, North Carolina, and Oregon are each expected to gain a single seat while Florida would gain two and Texas three.

The loss of a seat in California would be the first since statehood in 1850. It will still be the most populous U.S. state and remain the largest delegation with 52 congressional districts.

After the 2020 congressional apportionment, Florida is projected to have a larger delegation than New York, with 29 seats compared to New York’s 26. They each now have 27.

New York peaked at 45 seats after the 1940 census. The Empire State, which was 577,000 more populous than Florida as of the 2010 census, is now more than 2 million people behind the Sunshine State.

There are other factors in play that impact change in residence from one state to another. With the current tax policies making it relatively “more expensive” to live in the high tax states than before, we could look at this “blue state to red state” migration to continue.

Yahoo has more.

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  1. MI Ranger says:

    Is this people with multiple residence just choosing to “live” in the state with less taxes? Or an actual fleeing of the populous?
    I can definitely see this in Illinois (which has stepped off the deep end), and people are leaving to keep their sanity and money. Or California which is doing similar things but some can be avoided by living in a more reasonable county. I suspect a lot of New York folks are just downsizing and changing their “legal residence” not actually leaving.

    • Anonymous says:

      Glad I live in a red state where they think you’re weird if you don’t own at least three guns… blue states are annoying AF.

      • thebesig says:

        Wait till they move to your state in large enough numbers. Then wait for the radical Islamists to move in right behind them and form their own communities like what they have in certain places in Minnesota and Michigan.

        • USMC Steve says:

          Not a problem. There is a simple kinetic solution for that shit. And it is past time to make use of it.

          • thebesig says:

            If the Democrats have their way, we’re just going to be spectators. It’s like watching a ship collision about to happen… Slow-motion compared to vehicle collision… We don’t need a movie-style zombie apocalypse to happen… We have the next thing to one in the form of NPCs.

        • Mason says:

          “Then wait for the radical Islamists to move in right behind them and form their own communities like what they have in certain places in Minnesota and Michigan.”

          Yup. Bring them in by the bus load. “Refugees” who have no desire to become American (other than on paper to get the benefits), prefer Sharia, and send money back to their terrorist friends/family.

    • USAFRetired says:

      About half my generation of the maternal side of my family are New Yorker. Three of my older cousins who’ve hit retirement age have pulled chocks. Two bought in Florida and “relocated” keeping apartments in their old hometown in upstate NY, where they spend holidays and parts of the summer.

      The other pulled up stakes and lives full time in SC.

      As the rest of the clan hits retirement I believe more will venture south cutting ties up there.

      Even here in Georgia the differences between city folks ie Atlanta metro area and the rest of the state are marked.

  2. OWB says:

    So, both “blue” and “red” states are expected to gain and lose Congressional seats. And both “blue” and “red” states will have no change.

    That sounds fair.

    Of course, the state legislatures may hurt themselves drawing the new districts to lessen the impact. Ya gotta love the gymnastics involved in gerrymandering. Pols just don’t seem to like straight lines very much.

    • thebesig says:

      More blue states are projected to lose seats than red states, based on the map and on multiple elections. Places like Virginia and Kentucky and other states colored like them on the map are projected to have the same amount of seats they have now.

    • 5th/77th FA says:

      Very good points made OWB and thebesig. Have been to all the states mentioned with the exception of Commiefornia. Do have relatives in San Fran and SD. Both of those have deteriorated rapidly in the 5+ years that said relations have been there. I wouldn’t give you a plugged nickel for Noo Yawk or Floriduh. Only go there to see daughter and Gran’babies. Will the retired conservative snow birds from Noo Yawk out number/out vote the multitudes of FSA/illegals that are flocking to FL? FL may not have an income tax now, but that is changing. The other taxes are sky high and the major job growth is in lower wage service industry jobs. The schools are busting at the seams and teachers are overloaded. The cost of real estate is sky high and getting worse. Sadly, the liberal policies that some people voted in for themselves, they will go to another area and trash it the same way.

      • thebesig says:

        Just look at Virginia. When I started voting here, we were tracking good as a conservative state. Now with this new crop of Democrats coming in, we could be “force-fed” the progressive” agenda.

        There are efforts to turn Texas and other solidly “red states” blue. They’re pushing this effort beyond just the swing states. Now, if they could “get rid” of that “pesky” Electoral College, they could get closer to their goal of having solid control… Along with that their ability to force their change down our throats.

  3. Cameron Kingsley says:

    I don’t know if this is a good thing or a bad thing. I really hope this is not the beginning of the end for the US.

    • thebesig says:

      President Trump interrupted what had been a decades-long multi-pronged effort to solidify the Democrat control at the federal and state levels. Had President Trump not won the election, and we were handed not just one but two Hillary Clinton terms, we could very well have passed the point of no return.

      In the meantime, were going to have certain people leaving a certain state for better conditions. Then, once they arrive at the other state, vote for the same politicians in their new state that created the jacked-up conditions in the state that they departed.

      Just look at California and the laws that would force people to choose whether to take a shower or to wash their clothes. These deep blue states and counties/cities, and what is happening in those areas, are previews of what would happen in the rest of the U.S. if the left gets its way.

      • Anonymous says:

        Democrats want tonss of third-world “migrants” and to eliminate local law enforcement… no wonder folk flee:

  4. A Proud Infidel®™ says:

    BUT will those fleeing the Blue States simply be migrating to infest and infect other locales with failed policies and politics like a parasite seeking a new host?

  5. SFC D says:

    Folks that actually earn a living are tired of paying for all that free shit. Their leaving creates a vacuum filled by folks seeking free shit. And that, boys and girls, is why liberal enclaves like San Francisco are awash in shit.

  6. just lurkin says:

    Let’s see if we can’t drill down on this a little bit. As near as I can tell seven states are due to gain seats: Oregon, Arizona, Montana, Colorado, Texas (+3), N. Carolina and Florida (+2). Of those the Republicans control the legislature of every state except Oregon and Colorado. Meanwhile it looks like 10 states will lose seats: California, Minnesota, Michigan, Illinois, Alabama, Ohio, W. Virginia, Pennsylvania, New York and Rhode Island. Democrats control the legislatures in California, Illinois, New York and Rhode Island, Minnesota has a split legislature and Republicans control the rest. There’s a chance here for Republicans to pick up seats, but they will have to survive legal challenges to do so. I know that in NC there are constant legal battles over how district lines are drawn and I am never sure how the courts will rule. Overall this looks like it could lead to gains for the Republicans, but it is a little hard to tell how many.

  7. Berliner says:

    I’m sure the blue states losing seats will argue that they are gaining in “pending citizens” and need to retain the seats. That would ensure the “pending citizens” continue to reap the citizenship benefits they surely are owed because they couldn’t locate the red carpet at the border when they crossed./s

  8. NHSparky says:

    The biggest takeaway from all this is CA. For the first time since 1850 they will lose in the EC.

    This is huge. It’s basically saying that despite all the immigration, both legal and illegal, it’s still not enough to overcome those leaving. And who is the tax base there? Certainly not the new arrivals.