Temporary Afghanistan Cease-Fire
Soldiers from the 2nd Battalion, 23rd Infantry Regiment provide security near their armored vehicle in Afghanistan on Sept. 21, 2018, nearly 17 years after the conflict began. (Spc. Christopher Bouchard/Army)
The Taliban council appears to be in agreement with a temporary cease-fire. This should facilitate the signing of a peace agreement with the United States. If everything goes as President Trump hopes, US troops could be withdrawn from Afghanistan. Then, this could return to an Afghanistan challenge addressed by Afghanis.
As of the article, the Taliban chief hasn’t signed on to a cease-fire yeat. However, the agreement is there and their chief is expected to approve it. One of the goals that the U.S. side wanted involves negotiations taking place between Afghanis involved in the conflict.
From the Military Times:
Those intra-Afghan negotiations are expected to be held within two weeks of the signing of a U.S.-Taliban peace deal. They will likely decide what a post-war Afghanistan will look like, and what role the Taliban will play. The negotiations would cover a wide range of subjects, such as the rights of women, free speech and the fate of the the tens of thousands of Taliban fighters, as well as the heavily armed militias belonging to Afghanistan’s warlords who have amassed wealth and power since the Taliban’s ouster.
The temporary cease-fire had been proposed by U.S. envoy Zalmay Khalilzad during the last round of talks.
The full Military Times article is here.
Category: Afghanistan
Give that hell hole to Iran and China and let’s GTFO.
Use special ops units, the CIA, mercenaries, contractors, and drone warfare if and when limited involvement is absolutely necessary.
Mercenaries?
Like in Private Military Companies?
Nah. Ain’t gonna happen.
Remember what happened with Executive Outcomes in Angola and Sierra Leone, where the UN and our gruberment, under Democrat control, forced those countries to cancel their contracts and return to civil war, with the empty promises of an UN peacekeeping force.
Annnnnnnnd Happy Monday you fucking fucks.
Nice to be back and awwwaaayyyyy weeeee goooooooo
To the numb nuts that got us into that sh*thole in the first place: may the devil impose crotch rot for eternity upon your sorry asses.
Time for us to go and let the Chinese have that biblically huge tar baby, it’s not called “The Graveyard of Empires” for nothing, just ask the Brits, French or the Russians!
Napalm the entire country. Then salt the scorched earth. Ghengis Kahn (AKA “Jingus” as it was seared, seared into some memories) was the only one that ever controlled the place, and his methods are generally frowned upon today.
Too bad those methods are “frowned upon” today.
A hot, glowing (day and night) glass parking lot would be a vast improvement from what’s there now.
Amen. Don’t we have some old W-80’s in Pantex that are approaching their expiration date?
GTFO and STFO. The Graveyard of Empires indeed. Believe it even goes back way yonder past a Kid named Alexander. Even he didn’t do so great there.
Anybody here believe that promise that A’stan will not be used as a base for terrorism? Anybody? Bueller?
We have wasted way yonder too much American Blood and Treasure there. Leave them to continue to kill one another as they have for centuries.
“Leave them to continue to kill one another as they have for centuries.”
Amen, cordon that shithole off until they’ve all done each other in!
Alexander did o.k. in Afghanistan.
His successors ruled the Greco-Bactrian kingdom for 125 years.
That is a pretty good run in that part of the world
When the last troop leaves we should convert the entire country into radioactive glass.
See my comment above (under SFC D)
Good reason to keep Trump in office.
He gets us out and we stay out, right?
Right? Right?
Yep.
As soon as he stops listening to the “experts”.
This is all I have to say:
(With Apologies to The Animals “We Gotta Get Out of This Place”)
I used to play this in Iraq, got called a ‘hippie’ more than once. Guess I should’ve known to stick to; Drowning Pool, Rage Against the Machine, Nickleback, Staind, etc.
The sentiment still stands.
Thanks for the memories!
Roh-Dog:
Great minds think alike. Even us “Hippies”.
😉
That was the theme song for those of us who were already in the Sandbox at the beginning of OEF & OIF and had to do Back-To-Back Deployments in the Stans and Iraq.
Yep, we need to get outta that place. 18 years is waaaayyy toooo looonngg.
We also have been carrying the weight of the Korean Conflict waaay tooo looongg.
Time To Take Care Of Our Own Country. For Starters, impeach Adam, Nancy,Jerry, Maxine, Chuck….
😎
Did we just become best friends?!
https://youtu.be/3-ZUDtaGf3I
😆😄😅😃🤣😂!!!
Ah, memories. We had almost unanimous participation when they got to the chorus. That song, “Eve of Destruction” (Barry McGuire), and “Dock of the Bay (Otis Redding) were favourites in my AO. I once listened to “California Dreaming” (Mommas and Poppas) over and over all night one time because nobody felt like getting up and turning off the machine.
I have read that smell is the most powerful memory stimulant, but music does it for me.
amen
The Taliban want no part of a democratic rule in A-Stan. They are the most despised sect in the country and would stand about zero chance in anything resembling a fair election.
They’ll play nice until the US leaves, and then it’s back to their bad old ways.
Well said and spot on Bro. As are all of the other comments. And ninja’s flashed me back to singing along to that tune when we were deeply involved in another other world Tar Baby. Anybody else remember the other “Peace with Honor” accords? And how that worked out for us and our “allies”? We have to remember who actually controls the pocketbook for this country and any “deal” that daTrumpster makes could be negated by congress critters bound and determined to do whatever it takes to make him look bad.
Pack up everything moveable and move it the hell out. The rest of it… Nuke it from orbit.
With the US out of the way, our involvement would be nothing but a stumbling block that temporarily stopped them from their long term objective… Global Islamic rule under their auspices of radical Islamic rule. Eighteen years is but a drop in the bucket for a war that has been going on since Islam spread from the Arabian Peninsula in the first millennium.
The Taliban, Al Qaeda, ISIS, etc., are all working to the same objective. Their goal remains the same… Establishing what they once had prior to the success of the Reconquista “plus some”. Re-establish an “empire”, or series of emirates/caliphates from Spain all the way to the Phillipine’s Mindanow. Then work from there to expand their “nation”, and to keep expanding it until the whole world is united under “The House of Peace”.
They’re also engaging in other tactics to reach this objective, like leveraging immigration/illegal immigration, leveraging politically correct environments, etc. Muammar Gaddafi was reported as saying that the Muslim Nation would conquer Europe via immigration, without the use of the sword.
The West is facing the modern version of the “barbarian horde”.
I’ve told people this for 16 years, and I stand by it. We either fight indefinitely to change the political face over there, or their radical elements succeed in changing our culture here and creating a series of caliphates and emirates in the US and throughout the west.
There’s no third or other option. We will not win a defensive war because by then, it would be too late.
I don’t believe it has been the graveyard of empires for some time. It is a graveyard for those who choose to fight with one hand tied behind them and not by the same rules of engagement they use. ROE which say, “anything goes, civilian shields…meh so what, hiding in ‘unholy places’…sure whatever draws them in for the kill.”
Fuck them. Graveyard of Empires, kiss my ass! If we brought even the playbook from WWII to the table, firebombing everything that didn’t move and extra bombs for what did move, we would only have been there a few months.
You cannot, ever, fight a POLITE war! You cannot keep things pretty for the press and the worthless UN and the liberal ass hats that believe it’s a video game and win.
I want us out without one more loss of life.
Pretty sure if you checked with the Brits and Russia they did not worry too much about our type of ROE, and the end result was the same. Too much effort for too little return.
Sparks commented:
“…the worthless UN”…
AMEN!!!!
👏👏👏👍👍👍
You mean the United Nothing?
Useless Nothing!!
That too, good call!
This peace agreement and hopeful withdrawal will most likely piss off certain big brass and the arms industry. Just saying.
The fighting mostly stop’s for ISIS block leave until spring time.
There’s a “Taliban Chief”? Who knew?
Democracy? Women’s rights? Someone needs to put down the bong. Can’t wait to see how the duffle blog reports this “peace in our time”.
Color me skeptical.
This goes out to Ninja, RohDog, & 577th:
https://YouTube.com/deW7_D5qems
https://youtu.be/deW7_D5qems
I always forget The Who was there, and Big Brother and the Holding Company, wait -fact checks-, it was just Janis at that point.
That woman threw it all away for a needle.
Mr. Young’s Needle and the Damage Done https://youtu.be/k0t0EW6z8a0
Interesting story about he and Woodstock, apparently you don’t wanna piss of cameramen…
http://www.noise11.com/news/neil-young-explains-why-he-was-edited-out-of-woodstock-movie-20190815
👊 Awesome. YUGE Neil Young fan here. I was unaware of that story. Thanks!
You’re welcome.
Happy New Year!
“Taliban Chief”?
Yeah, same tribe as Elizabeth Warren…
Cease fire? The last time I was in Afghanistan (2008-2009), we called it “winter.”
Well, we tried.
Now let’s cut our losses and get the hell out.