Navy’s Legal Review Is Overdue, Experts Say.
The Navy’s very public recent legal missteps have garnered attention up to 1600 Pennsylvania Ave. President Trump has ordered SecNav, Richard V. Spencer, to conduct a sweeping review of the Navy’s legal system. But will it be enough?
Military.com | By Gina Harkins
The Navy’s sweeping legal review got even bigger last week after the Marine Corps was also ordered to conduct a service-wide check on its legal system.
The review was set in motion by a series of blunders surrounding a Navy SEAL’s case, which caught the attention of President Donald Trump. Now, Navy Secretary Richard V. Spencer has ordered the Marine Corps to conduct the same kind of comprehensive review of its Judge Advocate General Corps that the Navy’s legal community was ordered to do earlier this month.
Legal experts say it’s necessary, but several are unconvinced that directing the services to investigate themselves will result in a thorough enough look.
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Though rare, it’s not the first time the sea services have been forced to review their legal systems’ policies. Price, who has taught military justice courses at the University of Richmond’s School of Law, recalled similar reviews after a botched investigation following the Tailhook scandal in which dozens of naval aviators were accused of sexual misconduct at an annual convention in 1991.
The aftermath of Tailhook was bloody indeed. I hope a more measured review is conducted, for the sake of the Navy. Read the rest of the article here: Military.com
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Going to be interesting to see who investigates who in this cluster exercise. Would like to see an investigation panel of proven performers. Probably want to get them from the retired list so there will not be blowback against them. Otherwise it will be as effective as the Roman Catholic church Investigation of “errant” priests.
It’ll be like the IG investigations of the FBI. All kinds of evidence of wrong doing. Knowingly leaking classified information not just to civilians, but to a civilian with the expressed purpose of going to the press.
Recommend no charges.
I predict they’ll find all kinds of criminally bad behavior. No charges recommended. Retirements won’t be affected. Just a new Powerpoint everyone in JAG will have to sit through.
How about the Iowa clusterfuck? Blaming an explosion on a homosexual affair gone sideways…. The Navy smeared good sailors. For what?
Reality check”: Overcharging the breach and embers from a previous round cooking off silk powder bags was the eventual culprit. But the “Nav” said no fucking way…. it’s undetermined…
NCIS and the JAG Corp could use some sunlight disinfectant and an overhaul. Maybe even a legal review from another Branch of Service. This has been going on long before the last “administration”.
Wasn’t it eventually traced to using the projo ram lever (full power / full throw) instead of powder ram lever (shorter throw / low power) when loading the powder charge?
Sandia National Laboratories provided a team of scientists to review the Navy’s technical investigation.
During its review, Sandia determined that a significant overram of the powder bags into the gun had occurred as it was being loaded and that the overram could have caused the explosion.
The Navy disagreed with Sandia’s opinion and concluded that the cause of the explosion could not be determined.
Of course, the Navy expressed regret, but did not offer apology, to Hartwig’s family and closed its investigation.
This is why I’ll never take NCIS’s findings at face value.
That is just so wrong, on so many levels.
So instead of admitting that you could blow up a WW2 wartime gun by pulling the wrong lever and mis-ramming powder, they BF-ed a crewman as a scapegoat.
They haven’t learned a thing, eh?
I am becoming convinced we need to cashier every flag rank in every branch, and start over.
The museum volunteers on USS Iowa had plenty to say about how the investigation was bullshit. They said that the alleged gay relationship was a complete fabrication, both men were straight, and both were good Sailors.
Whitey, the same goes for those volunteers on the Jersey. In fact, on a recent visit to some normally off limits areas of the ship, I visited the turret two powder mag. The talk of the Iowa incident is considered off limits in this sacred place.
Something that stuck out when there was the faint smell of ammonia in the mag. I guess it’s embedded in the paint.
This could get very interesting. Wonder how many papers for retirement thru out the JAG/NCIS Corps are gonna be submitted…soon?
Watch the Swamp Things use this to flush the good folk.
I retired in 2012 and the legal shenanigans were continuing at that time. A couple years after retirement I went into the GS system. If you think it’s bad with the folks in uniform it’s absolutely nuts for in the GS side of the house. I toughed it out 4 years and had to leave. Couldn’t take it anymore.
The whole damn system need to be purged with flame throwers and chain saws.
NCIS…Not Capable of Investigating Sh&t is what we said it stood for. When NIS/NCIS fornicates Fido they do it with total abandon.
NCIS screw ups must be coming from the top since the field agents I had run across all seemed to be dedicated folks who want to catch bad people. The Iowa incident was beyond bad and even though I love the Navy I hate it for how they savaged a dead Sailor. The Navy should issue daily apologies for that.