Marine testifies Navy SEAL did not stab detainee
Defense is at bat for SOC Gallagher now, calling witnesses to disprove the prosecutions case in the stabbing death of the ISIS Jihadi, and the sniping of two civilians. The prosecution has been rocked by violations of attorney/client privilege and Constitutional Rights of the accused, and the original prosecutors were relieved or replaced. The prosecution also has no forensic evidence of wrong doing, but is relying on witness testimony. One such witness in a stunning revelation claimed he was the one who killed the ISIS Jihadist, and not Gallagher.
The defense has its witnesses, too.
Caution, site has a disturbing pic and may not be suitable for children or those with tender sensibilities.
By: Julie Watson and Christopher Weber
SAN DIEGO — A Marine who worked jointly in Iraq with a decorated Navy SEAL accused of murder testified Thursday that the platoon chief did not stab a wounded teenage Islamic State prisoner as alleged by other platoon members.Marine Staff Sgt. Giorgio Kirylo said he watched as Special Warfare Operator Chief Edward “Eddie” Gallagher tried to save the 17-year-old captive and never saw him use his hunting knife on him.
Gallagher is accused of fatally stabbing the adolescent captive while he was under his care in Iraq in 2017 and to shooting civilians. He has pleaded not guilty to murder and attempted murder.
After the boy died, Kirylo said he moved the corpse to pose for a “cool guy trophy” photo because it was the platoon’s first Islamic State prisoner captured from their battlefield.
He said he lifted up the teen’s body to put the corpse’s head on his foot when a bandage on his neck popped up.
Kirylo testified that he saw no stab wounds under the dressing.
He said each member of the platoon took turns posing with the body, and no one was upset.
He said the platoon members took turns taking photos with the body because they were excited that they had coordinated an air strike with Iraqi troops that had killed Islamic State fighters including the captive’s commander.
“This was our unofficial war trophy,” the Marine Raider said.
So no murder witnessed by the Marine, but some warriors counting coup after a successful mission? A bit gruesome for the civilized, perhaps. I don’t recall seeing any of the civilized types embedding with SEALs or Force Recon or Spec Ops or, you get my drift. How easy it must be to second guess the actions of a fighter who had to make a decision now with lives on the edge, while the civilized may second guess at their leisure.
Read the rest of the article here: Navy Times
Category: Iraq, Legal, The Warrior Code, Veterans in the news
Perjury trap closing.
Do believe Big Navy needs to take some advice from “The Gambler” Kenny Rogers. “…know when to fold them…know when to walk away…” Just like the boys at the Alamo knew the night of 5 Mar ’36; There’s no good way out. Even the hero of Mobile bay in ’64 couldn’t navigate thru these torpedos.
Past time for that.
They need to go after the people pushing for this “complete farce” of a trial.
If they don’t …. well, expect more FUBAR prosecutions.
Butch and Sundance
Shark tank jumping?
Fascinating these articles of the trial get no where near the comments about the ones pre trial where everybody already convicted the seal.
Make no mistake here…Jesus himself could attest to innocence and the jury in a CM might convict.
My experience with the Army is that Commanders are almost never guided by a desire for justice, but a desire for punishment motivated by feelings of personal animus.
This is why some people get away with what others are slammed for.
In this case, my own opinion was that I did not care if he did this or not.
After all, was he not sent their to kill insurgents? I don’t really care how he does it….
They just want to “get” him because he posed with the dead terrorist like he was a trophy deer.
As long as this has been goin’ on, I have a feelin’ that some officers’ careers are too tied to this one. If this case goes down in flames, so will those careers.
And deservedly so IMHO, every time we get another look at it, this case and Court reveals itself to be an even filthier whorehouse!
They need to lose their law licenses over this, too.
“Curiouser and curiouser,” said Alice. And down the rabbit hole we go.
I’ve seen things in surgical suites that would probably turn the stomachs of some of you. I don’t find the photo of the dead teen jihadi disturbing. He’d have likely blown himself to smithereens at some point. I find it disturbing that the report says they each had their photos taken with him.
Now who is telling the truth, and who is making up crap?
How easy is it to second guess? Thanks to the Internet, we are now a country of experts on everything. So all too easy.
If you can’t understand the young warrior’s exulting over their victory then I would remind you of how you felt when you won a fistfight as a kid. You may have been bruised, bloody and hurting, but damn, you felt good!
Expand that feeling a thousandfold when the combat just past was mortal, and you are still alive while your foe is not. That incredible vitality of being still alive and the accompanying exultation of that reality is indescribable. When you are sharing it with your buddies, it’s even more intense and the celebration may go beyond the bounds of civilian good taste.
Those of you here who have been there know what I’m talking about.
I hear you. I was only in Panama for Just Cause, guys took pictures of shit they wouldn’t share with those who wouldn’t understand. We didn’t have the internet and smartphones. This stuff will get out. I just wish these young men will start to understand this. Folks that have not served will never get what it’s like.
You are spot on when referring to guys who don’t have a lot of serious combat time (yet). The feelings and impulses are much stronger when the likely fate (c0ck & balls, throat slit, etc.) if taken alive by the now deceased scumbags is taken into account.
Eventually, the adrenaline wave is controlled and ridden all the way to the beach, and the attitude shifts to ‘are we there yet’?
Thus the term/reference/etc. ‘Sleepy eyed killers’, ‘Sleepy eyed assassins’, etc.
You assume that people today have tasted their own blood in their mouth Poe.
I will assure you that very few of our current crop of fellow Americans have tasted their own blood, it’s why those Antifa types are so tough until they run into the wrong guys who beat the living fuck out of them and suddenly they are victims….
Used to be a time when you mouthed off you got popped…maybe you won maybe you didn’t but you had to back up your big mouth or risk a beating.
Now in a nation of entitled pussies the idea of being glad you’re alive and the other guy is dead and posing with his dead body horrifies these sissies….
The emasculation of America by the feminazis and the PC crowd. Aided and abetted by the soy industry.
Pussies have never gotten into a fight because “all violence is wrong” today.
What I haven’t seen yet is mention of the underlying reputation of the JAGoffs and the NIS (now NCIS, with their own speshul TV show!) amongst the working class heroes of the USN & USMC. When I was young (and fairly new to the USN) I was almost immediately briefed on the despised & detested NIS (why were they were despised & detested in general? for one example out of dozens, read below). All the NIS gave a fvck about (and I’m fairly certain the NCIS carried on with the old ways) was promotion, and promotions came from arrest & conviction points (all multipliers are stacked); Low ranking E-Dog = 1 point Officer = 2 points Senior Officer = x3 Aviator = x2 Aviator (Fighter Pilot) = x3 (lots of NIS guys saw ‘Top Gun’ and tried to be fighter pilots) Intel = x2 Submariner = x2 Teamguy = x3 (lots of NIS guys were DORs fom BUD/S) EOD = x2 (EOD guys rock jump wings, and do lots of daring, dangerous sh1t, this makes them ‘shiny’ and they thus attractive to the primitive minds of NIS stooges) I’ve seen them first hand ignore the initial offense/reason for the investigation (stealing and selling mil gear & ammo – including belted rounds & match-grade bolt gun rounds…the only thing a wacko ‘survivalist’ hunts with match-grade bolt gun ammo is LEOs) and shift the ENTIRE focus of the investigation to a SEAL O ‘allegedly’ 😉 attending a bachelor party at the house where the stolen gear & ammo was probably stored, and at the bachelor party there were ‘allegedly’ nekkid strippers/whores. So all they gave a fvck about was ‘Conduct Unbecoming’ and some other O-related charges. It’s all they asked me about. I was never there. I was in the church library, studying. 😉 You see, E5 EDog Teamguy = 1 x 3 (Teamguy) = 3 NIS scumbag points. But a Teamguy O is 2 x 3 = 6 NIS scumbag points. With the formulae, it all makes sense. Never mind they were attempting to drag down one of the best platoon… Read more »
Nope, concur.
Had a kid (non-qual submariner) who was a real shitbag. Never did shit, WAY behind on quals, constantly going UA.
Oh, did I mention said shitbag was a YN and as such had a TS clearance?
Everyone on the boat knew where the shitbag was hiding out. But it was only when he used MY barracks phone to make some phone calls to “folks overseas” that I get hauled into their office.
And of course I never got paid back for those calls.
Couple that with the whole Tailhook witch hunt and USS Iowa fiasco around that time, and Keystone Kops is about the nicest thing I could say about NIS.
You gentlemen both need to learn to express your feelings, and not hold them in…
Well stated both of you, however sad the truth is..
One thing I find missing in the midst of all the NIS/NCIS rants (which may very well be warranted, I don’t know) is that there are other SEALs who’ve testified against Gallagher. I don’t know the full number of these, as the case seemed to grow from interviews with 11 people from Alpha, but named witnesses include a Chief who has been friends with Gallagher for ten years, and another who made DevGru before this shit hit the fan.
So forget the NCIS angle for a moment, and all the apparent stupidity of the prosecution.. they’re easy targets. At the end of the day, is one SEAL innocent and being framed by multiple other SEALs? Or given the multitude of complaints, is one guilty and those other SEALs are spot on?
I certainly don’t have answers, but people with their asses on the line are going to lose careers one way or the other, not to mention facing legal issues depending on the outcome, and it’s worth remembering that the pro-Gallagher slant comes with an implicit “fuck you” not just to NCIS, but to other members of the special warfare community.
It’s a shitty situation all around.
Photo that they are using.
No blood on knife.
No neck or upper chest stab wounds visible.
He didn’t stab the illegal combatant as they say he did. Evidence in the photo shows this. Not guilty.
And yet even the surprise (and changed) testimony of SEAL medic Corey Scott says, explicitly, that Gallagher stabbed the combatant in the neck, he simply says it wasn’t a fatal or bloody wound.
So did he stab him? Or is Scott also lying about that? Once again, it’s a messy situation.
Definitely a shitty situation. If the prosecutors are doing their jobs (no evidence of that so far) then it’s shitty because the Chief crossed a line. If the defense is right, the junior SEALS lied to as the defense said, “mutiny” against a Chief that was more aggressive than they wanted… either one is bad. Just waiting here to see which one the jury believes is the case, and what the fallout is afterwards. Either way, I hope that the truth comes out, and that the problem is fixed.
While I’m clearly not privy to everything going on in the courtroom, my guess is that the prosecution’s missteps combined with the defense laying enough conflicting stories leads to insufficient clarity to deem him guilty beyond reasonable doubt.
I tend not to believe the ‘mutiny’ angle simply because some of the complaints were from people moving to different commands. What sort of person is going to toss away their DevGru opportunity just to make up allegations about someone in a former unit? That doesn’t pass the ‘smell test’.
No matter the result, careers are fucked and the NSW community suffers, though.
Agree 100% with the last line, as well as the fact that i’m not privy to enough info to decide what actually happened, other than the prosecution was a shitshow.
Law School is just a leftist (and anti-military) indoctrination camp any more– you’re seeing the effect on JAG right here with this.
Law school is full of leftist law profs because it is less work than actual lawering. Exhibit A – 0bama. Exhibit B- Fauxahontas.
If Bernie had gone to law school, he would likely be or have been a law professor.
Don’t forget Bill and Hillary…
Yup. Both lawers, but never tried a case.
‘Trump, who has said he has been considering pardons for a number of military personnel accused of war crimes, intervened in Gallagher’s case months ago, ordering that he be moved from pretrial detention in a military brig to confinement at a Navy base.’
It sure is nice to have a real CiC.