Air Force general calls himself out for wearing upside-down ribbon rack during State of the Union

| February 7, 2019

A key characteristic of a good leader is one’s ability to put pride aside and admit one’s own mistakes.

That’s exactly what Air Force Gen. Joseph Lengyel, chief of the National Guard Bureau, did Wednesday when he shared with the social media masses a gaffe he committed while attending President Donald Trump’s State of the Union Address.

Looking at the photos that emerged from the Trump’s address, Gen. Lengyel made an observation that may still be contributing to some internal groaning on his part.

He wore his ribbon rack upside-down.

The general took to both Twitter and Facebook to proactively highlight the slip-up.

“I missed it… Plain and simple,” Gen. Lengyel wrote. “I hope this is a lesson for everyone who wears the uniform, and really for anyone… They put erasers on pencils for a reason. When you make a mistake or miss a detail, own it and move on.”

I have seen the Combat Action Ribbon backwards so many times I am no longer sure which way is correct anymore.  I tried the “I made a mistake, that’s why there are erasers on pencils” during several NJP’s … nobody told me it was an Air Force thing.  When I was a young Marine working my way to Private for the second time, how was I supposed to know what a Tech Sergeant in the Air Force looked like?  I was trying to be an Ambassador of goodwill by spending some time with a few local ladies when this blue guy with squiggles on his arms interrupted me.  He should have brought more friends, Air Force uniforms confuse Marines.  I should have been a General.

 

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Comm Center Rat

Meanwhile the CNO sits quietly to the far left sporting a rack with only his three highest awards. I’m willing to chance that an Admiral or a General has the highly coveted National Defense Service Medal without actually seeing it displayed. Although, sometimes I’m curious to know if a general earned his Air Force Training Ribbon.

Club Manager, USA ret.

I believe it is appropriate for someone to elect to wear only their highest three awards. Shows humility to me. A TDY Army colonel who visited our office at CINCPAC Special Ops would announce his arrival by kicking the door open and shouting “Another day in paradise”, only wore one ribbon. A little blue thingy with white stars.

Honor and Courage

I remember the days when everyone had to report in class A uniform. You knocked on the Orderly Room door and waited outside at parade rest until you were sent for. In my case I was introduced to 1SG by the clerk and was Inspected for personnel appearance and Uniform. He review my 201 file on the spot and questioned all miss badges and awards. I they had not been issued you were sent to supply for appropriate issue requests forms. You will wear all badges and awards IAW with regulations( officer and Enlisted got the same treatment). By 1972 this was all gone and you could show up in uniform of choice.

Jus Bill

WAIT – the USAF now awards ribbons for TRAINING?

Drag Racing Maniac
Ret_25X

I’m good with only wearing high 3 medals…

🙂

Dave Hardin

I know a lot of Marines, better Marines than I, that served from 1977 through the 80’s and got out with little more than a Good Conduct Medal.

Those were great times, good people and no PT Belts.

Hymiehizbizkit

Indeed.
I missed the coveted NDSM by two weeks in 1974. Spent my last year showing off my GCM.

Tallywhagger

Haha! “I’ll rip your heads off” ROTF

BennSue

PLEASE share the rest of that story!

Dave Hardin

I may be the only person to have “I’ll rip your heads off” entered into his official record.

Sadly, it came with no ribbon or medal.

26Limabeans

With contempt!

Comm Center Rat

Dave “The Viking” Hardin takes no prisoners, only heads on the Icelandic tundra!

Eo

$5 he’s Techno Viking in disguise.

thebesig

On or about 0200 on 18 Feb 1979.

Beer? :mrgreen:

Dave Hardin

Ahhh, maybe Tequila. The details are a wee bit fuzzy.

timactual

No thanks. Maybe later.

HMCS(FMF) ret

Indigenous evil homebrew???

Dustoff

“Aim High” Air Force.

Mason

Getting dressed he was inverted.

Ex-PH2

Oh, Dave Hardin, you bad, bad, bad, bad, BAD boy.

Whatever will we do with you?!?!?!?!

You know where the floor buffer is? Good. Put it to good use.

Slow Joe

Buffering the floor is a good workout.

Jeff

Dave,
As another 80’s era Marine, may I say to you that was friggin awesome!!! I just had hip surgery and I laughed so hard I thought I was going to split my staples!!! I can’t count how many times I’ve seen the same thing during my two tours! Just outstanding Marine!

5th/77th FA

Used to be a reg where you were supposed to wear all awards and decorations. Saw many a Warrior who would only wear their CIB “the only award that means a shit.” Had a few get chastised for that and would grumbling put the “rack” on.

Guess a NG Starred Rank don’t wear it enough? Got in a hurry? His aide-de-camp/dog robber needs schooling? Best to own it, poke fun at yourself before everybody else does.

sj

My Bud (RIP) only wore his CIB and his DSC.

Skyjumper

Once had a 1SG in my Company that had been awarded a Silver Star for his actions in Viet Nam, but never wore the ribbon because he didn’t believe in wearing a higher award than the Company Commander was authorized to wear.

Top was a stand-up NCO for other reasons also.

rgr769

In my battalion in Germany we had a number of senior O-3’s and other officers with CIB’s, many only wore their CIB’s and jump wings on their khaki shirts; Maj. C.Q. Williams (MOH) was one of them. Even in Greens with his full ribbon rack he never wore the medal with ribbon around his neck. Most of the been there done that guys didn’t seem to want to talk about their combat service.

Veritas Omnia Vincit

I will rip your heads off

I’m just rolling here….Goddam it Hardin you glorious heathen bastard you made my day….

Dave Hardin

I had no idea what being contemptuous meant. They were the ones with the nightsticks. I was innocent, I swear.

GDContractor

That’s not the way you are supposed to do it! You are supposed to say: “That was me as a young, ignorant man 40 years ago. I have grown during the intervening years and changed my way of thinking. That is not the man that I am today.”

Come on Dave, get with the program. Dare ya!

Dave Hardin

Oh, ya … um, that too.

Outcast

What only 40 years ago, dang you are youngens as here am trying to remember if it was 52 or 54 years ago. It’s the pits when you start life with a pea brain and slowly lose it.
Dave you must have one of those fancy dictionary’s as mine here has very few words in it that has more than 6 letters, contemptuous, gotta remember that word, ought to impress them old gals at the bar next time I go there. Older than dirt here and my minute knowledge is still expanding.

ChipNASA

Being a Marine, I’m surprised you can understand it, pronounce it or even SPELL it.

Graybeard

It was just a minor misunderstanding – of course.

Laughing at the youthful follies of glorious bastards, and chuckling at the not-so-youthful follies of general bastards.

SFC D

I’ve got more than a few scars as a result of “minor misunderstandings”!

Lurker Curt

I love the part where you said “Air Force uniforms confuse Marines…”
I went to my son’s boot camp graduation at MCRDSD- after the ceremony we were making a plan for the day when he ignored an Army Bird Colonel and damn near immediately saluted (very smartly, I must say) an Air Force Master Sergeant…called me a dick when I laughed while correcting him.

Eo

Our greenside Petty Officers were constantly getting saluted by Army personnel when we were deployed.

Mason

I worked in a joint building at Ft Leonard Wood and it was very common for the baby Zoomies to salute the crows.

akpual

My uncle, an Air Force Colonel always said he looked like Ralph Kramden

Dennis - not chevy

I first asked myself who puts the small arms expert marksmanship ribbon on the top row. I must admit my second thought when I saw it during the state of the Union speech was, “Oh my goodness, a phony vet got admitted to the speech.”

Doc (FMF)

Put your rack on upside dow ?

I think the AF has a ribbon FOR that.

Ret_25X

wait a minute….how can you tell if USAF medals are upside down?

Dennis - not chevy

the pointy ends of the oak leaf clusters point up and to the wearer’s left

11B-Mailclerk

None of the other military folks around him spotted it? Or no one told him?

Dennis - not chevy

Which leads to the question, would they have given the same pass to an E-3? One of the General’s fellows should have taken him aside and said, “Oh by the way, who dressed you this morning?”

Mason

No brotherhood at that rank apparently. Just inward chuckling that the chief of the National Guard is going to look like an idiot. Politicians in uniform.

Hack Stone

Maybe the other Generals punked him when he took it off for a long distance head call.

Mason

Ha, good point. We used to flip rank patches on Gore-Tex jackets that people would leave unattended.

FatCircles0311

In this age I can only assume it was on purpose to make a political statement but nobody caught on and he’s trying to play it off. I can’t believe otherwise. It’s too stupid.

11B-Mailclerk

There is wisdom in:

Never attribute to Malice what can easily be explained by Stupidity.

Outcast

Yep us USAF both regular or guards are just worthless fuckups, just ask any Marine.

11B-Mailclerk

The man -said- he screwed up. So, was it “stupid” or “malice” ?

I assume the AF types are human like the rest of us. I work with a couple of former AF folks. One is an absolute treasure of professional competence. The other has recently stepped hard on his crank, again. I am giving him the benefit of the doubt that it was poor thinking, not malicious.

You didn’t really read what I said, eh?

Mustang Major

Wonder if the upside-down rack was a form of protest?

TomG

It really is an easy uniform to understand though. Same officer rank as Army and Marines. As for the enlisted, count the stripes (squigglies) and add one. There aren’t even any warrant officers. No crazy badges, bars, qualifications for the most part. Just name, rank, occupational badge and some upside-down ribbons.

MI Ranger

Yeah, but the names kill me: Airman in waiting, Senior Airman, Technical Sergeant, Best Bud…
Army is simple until you throw in the Specialist rank: Private, Private Second Class, Private First Class, Corporal, Sergeant, Staff Sergeant, Sergeant First Class, Master Sergeant (And we call all any Sergeant less than the First Sergeant just Sergeant), First Sergeant, Sergeant Major!

Mason

Tech Sergeant was a rank inherited from the Army, you know.

francositalianarmy

TBH, I think AR -670-1 doesn’t apply to generals. maybe is same for USAF

francositalianarmy

Found it in 670-1. At least for Army generals prescribe there own uniform.

Applicability. This regulation applies to
active and retired Army, Army National
Guard of the United States (ARNGUS)
and U.S. Army Reserve (USAR) personnel. It does not apply to generals of the
Army, the Chief of Staff of the Army, or
former Chiefs of Staff of the Army, each
of whom may prescribe his or her own
uniform.

Mason

I’d have to look, but I recall it being authorized that 3 stars and higher can change their uniform.

Oldogface

Note! Not a Purple Heart among them…….

Twist

It’s an award that not many people want.

John Wright

All,

Could happen to anyone. A very sharp USN service member put her rack on the right side, evidently used a mirror while putting stuff on. Corrected her before an awards ceremony at USTRANSCOM Scott AFB. That was 10 years ago. Now I’m questioning whether I knew what I was talking about since the USN sailors wear medals and ribbons on both sides.

John

jon spencer

If a sailor is wearing medals, then award ribbons without a medal go on the right side.
ie, Good Conduct medal on the left and a Meritorious Unit Commendation ribbon on the right.

Mark Olson

I remember showing up for my second assignment in Germany in 1987, a member of the E4 mafia and all I had to show was a ASR!

MI Ranger

No AAM for PCSing? How many times did you make E4?

Billy

Once walked around Fort Drum wearing my jump wings above my CIB. Sharp E-4 corrected the not-so-sharp Captain….