Parents and Children

| November 21, 2018

Longtime TAH readers know I travel a bit. For what it’s worth, I’m traveling now.

And with apologies to a guy named Robert Clark Seger: “When you’re driving umpteen hours, there ain’t nothing much to do” that’s reasonably safe – except to listen to music, either pre-recorded or on the radio. Sightseeing isn’t a particularly good option while driving, and the same is true of most everything else that would take your eyes and attention off of the road.

So yeah – I listen. And yeah, that means I’m about to wander off the ‘res a bit here.

Fair warning: if you’ve lost someone close recently – or are having difficulty dealing with a past loss of someone close – you might want to stop reading and skip the rest of this article. But if you haven’t, IMO you really need to read what follows.

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Parents and their children often butt heads. The relationship can be difficult.

That’s particularly true between same-sex parent and child pairs. Those relationships often become quite strained when the child hits their teenage years.

I don’t really know why that is; I’m no shrink. But I’ll hazard a guess anyway.

I think the reason is evolutionary and hormonal. Humans are territorial animals, and seem to naturally gravitate to a hierarchical leadership model. Accordingly, in a family unit generally there’s room for only one male and one female “top dog”.

A maturing child threatens that structure. The child at some point reaches puberty, then young adulthood – and that change threatens the family’s stability.

Sometimes things get really nasty; other times, not so much. But the conflict is often if not most often there to some degree in every family. The participants almost always work it out, forming adult/near peer relationships in time.

That status holds for years, even decades. But eventually, if you’re “lucky” . . . you’ll outlive your parents. And yes, the “lucky” is in quotation marks in the previous sentence for reasons that should be obvious.

Burying a parent is hard – one of the hardest things you’ll ever do. I can only think of a handful of experiences that IMO might be worse.

But another issue comes later. And it can be kinda hard to deal with.

Because after you’ve buried a parent – or had one advance into dementia to the point they only rarely recognize you, perhaps, and maybe not even then – there are certain things you can’t do any more.

In particular, you can’t really ever tell them how much they mean to you – at least not in person. And I guarantee that after they’re gone you will kick yourself, repeatedly, for not having told them what they mean to you on a regular and recurring basis when they were around to hear you tell them.

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Yeah, a particular song spawned this article. It was one written by a successful singer who had a rather difficult relationship with his father.

The original version was written while the singer’s father was dying a protracted death. The author reportedly sang that early version at his father’s funeral.

It was later recorded, with some changes; it was released over a decade ago. It was awarded multiple Grammy awards.

If you choose to listen, since you now know the tune’s background maybe having a tissue handy might be a good idea. Those who’ve recently lost someone close, or who are having difficulty coming to terms with a past loss, IMO really should pass on listening.

 

 

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Yeah, this article is a bit morose. And no, I’m not trying to be “Downer Dave” or the Thanksgiving equivalent of The Grinch here. But sometimes, an idea is important enough that it needs to be said – and can’t be “sugar coated”.

Because life often has a way of reminding you – one way or another, and often very suddenly – that tomorrow . . . is never guaranteed. For anyone.

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Tomorrow’s Thanksgiving. Enjoy the holiday. Use the opportunity to spend time with those who are important to you if you can. Let them know how much they mean to you.

And if one or both of your parents are still alive, make damn sure you tell them how much you love them.

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26Limabeans

“life often has a way of reminding you – one way or another, and often very suddenly – that tomorrow . . . is never guaranteed”

Long distance driving causes the mind to ponder some pretty deep thoughts. Music fine tunes them. The driving becomes robotic and the mind is freed up to do house cleaning.

Eyes on the road. Scan your instruments and your mirrors. Enjoy the ride.

Grunt

I do a lot of driving. A LOT. Between work (a 120 mile commute) and picking up my kids as often as I can (560 miles, round trip), that’s a lot of time in the car.

People don’t get it and ask how I do it. All I can tell them is that all that time on the road has made my car a perfect meditation space. I think it’s actually been good for my mental well being.

AW1Ed

Thought this was appropriate, considering both the topic and poster.

Comm Center Rat

“Now I’ve retired, my son’s moved away
I called him up just the other day
I said, “I’d like to see you, if you don’t mind”
He said, “I’d love to, Dad, if I could find the time
My new job’s a hassle and the kids got the flu
But it’s nice talkin’ to you Dad, it’s sure nice talkin’ to you”

“As I hung up the phone it occurred to me
He’d grown up just like me
My boy was just like me”

Cat’s In the Cradle by Harry Chapin, 1974

thebesig

Here’s a video

Lurker Curt

Thanks for this, Hondo. I almost didn’t read it, but decided to. Damn sure skipped the music, got my own sound track in my head now. Very real, and I join you in encouraging everybody to let the important folks in your lives KNOW.

AnotherPat

Thank You, Hondo, for sharing..please stay safe on the roads.

The song by Mike & The Mechanics “Living Years”
ties in with your post:

Wilted Willy

Thanks Hondo, I hope you have a wonderful trip. I always called my dear “Pa” every Monday night. We were always very close and I always told him and my dear “Ma” every week how much I loved them! I now look forward to my demise so that once again, I can tell them how much I love them both! I was truly lucky to grow up with both parents who loved me very much, we didn’t have much money, but we always had lot’s of love to go around. That is why what my pos brother did to them hurts me to this day! I have peace in knowing that he will get his just reward someday soon! I hope all of you deplorables have a great Thanksgiving!
Love to all,
Willy

Veritas Omnia Vincit

Thank Willy, I hope you are able to enjoy the day tomorrow as well!

Thunderstixx

And we all hope that you are doing well this Thanksgiving Willy. Life would be less without you here to grace the pages with your insight.

Veritas Omnia Vincit

You’re not being morose at all my friend, on a day of Thanksgiving it seems somewhat appropriate to remember those we’ve lost especially parents as they shape much of what we are before we realize we are being shaped. It’s often only later we realize how much of what we are capable of and what we’ve become was influenced by parents for good or bad.

Compared to many folks my childhood was far less than ideal(still far far better than those suffering any kind of abuse to be certain), food security, housing security, poverty were all daily experiences as a child. We didn’t go fishing, or do family outings, or take family vacations, we had nothing to fund any of that. What we did do was learn to survive, to work hard as hell, to be tough, to ignore the comments from affluent others about our poor kid clothes, our shitty house and cars, and to focus on succeeding to avoid this outcome for ourselves. We learned to be a close knit, strongly bonded family. An experience that the military duplicated in large degree for me personally.

All of my siblings succeeded thanks largely to our impoverished parents driving us towards education and opportunity.

So thank you for posting this, it reminds me of more than a few old school country songs my dad would listen to while we repaired yet another used piece of crap car/truck/lawnmower/chainsaw etc…times I would give almost anything to experience one more time again today.

Both my folks are gone as are two of my siblings, but music connected all of us and that’s what I remember about those days being connected to family.

Thank you for reminding me of that important lesson.

ex-OS2

Thank you Hondo. Have a safe trip and enjoy the holidays.

RGR 4-78

I loved my Mom without question, but for some reason I always seemed to butt heads with my Dad. He passed in 1985 from prostate cancer in his late 60’s while I was in my mid twenties. It took me another 10 years to realize how intelligent he had been, by my forties I came to the conclusion that he really had been correct about almost everything. I regret not being able to tell him that and I wish he would have lived long enough to have spent some meaningful time with my kids.

Poetrooper

RGR, don’t be too hard on yourself. Hondo’s observation that much of this family conflict is gene driven is spot on and the fact that it can be observed in other species as well serves to prove that. All the blame should not fall on the offspring. Mothers and fathers are seldom perfect and their own unresolved territorial imperatives play a huge roll in these conflicts.

I had some hard times with my father, who was an intelligent, but uneducated, and thoroughly opinionated man. He died too young without our having time to resolve all our issues which I most assuredly regret. My mother always said that our biggest problem was that we were too much alike. I fear she was correct.

Hondo, thanks for a thought provoking piece here on the eve of Thanksgiving.

RGR 4-78

“Hondo’s observation that much of this family conflict is gene driven is spot on”
I agree, in my case the “horses ass” didn’t fall far from the tree, so to speak.

Poetrooper

How well I am the living proof of that…

David

Was fortunate enough to have two loving (albeit a bit spiky) parents who both lived into their 80s. Miss them still and need to visit them in Arlington. I think the beginning of a great relationship was when I visited after Basic; I had finally done something worthwhile after screwing up for several years. The look on my Dad’s face is equalled in my mind only by the time I introduced him to his great-grandson. Monday would have been their 76th anniversary.

Thunderstixx

Unfortunately the relationship with my parents was really never good due to things that happened in my childhood.
In spite of all their faults, and they were many, they each brought things into my life that I can look back on and smile.
My mother graced my ears with here concert piano and vocals talent. She was a gifted musician and has passed that on to me.
That being said, it was my father that bought me a couple sets of drums, including the nicest set of Rogers in our state at the time, and let me play them for hour and hours in our basement. He kept me in Zildjian Cymbals, (the only serious choice) and although he had no idea the difference between a 22″ medium ride and a 17″ medium thin crash, he always bought me the best.
There were other things too. He taught me to hunt and shoot when I was a kid and that has stayed with me through years of shooting in the US
Army and afterward.
I have never had a negligent discharge in my life and I have always been a good shot, thanks to him.
So, now that they are both gone, it is with thanks I give to God himself that they were my parents in spite of all the rest of the things.

AZRobert

Mine was “Father and Son” off of Tea for a tillerman. Except my father wasn’t happy and died of alcoholism in 85, retired Air Force in 67.

I ran away and joined the Navy in 75 and they say the rest is history….good n bad….now good times….sober since 84, one day at a time….

Thanks

11B-Mailclerk

As much as possible, get square with folks while you still can.

Duane

Thank you, Hondo.
I just took my mother down to Yuma from Spokane WA so she could go across the border in Algodones to see a dentist, only to find out that the tooth in question wasn’t one she was willing at her age (she’s 89) to have work done on because of complications. Several people wondered why I made that kind of a trip (down and back in 5 days), and all I can do is smile because I felt it was the right thing for me to do since I’m her youngest. After losing both in-laws last year, it really hit home with me because my mom is the last surviving parent.