1974 Redux? Not Remotely

| September 5, 2018

SecDef J. Mattis is calling Bob Woodward’s new book about Pres. Trump a work of fiction.

https://www.militarytimes.com/news/your-military/2018/09/04/mattis-calls-revelations-about-president-trump-in-woodwards-new-book-fiction/

Among the revelations in veteran journalist Bob Woodward’s new book, “Fear: Trump in the White House,” Trump allegedly called for the assassination of Syrian president Bashar Assad after the 2017 chemical strike.

“Trump called Mattis and said he wanted to assassinate the dictator,” according to a passage from the book, which will be released Sept. 11.

“Trump called Mattis and said he wanted to assassinate the dictator,” according to a passage from the book, which will be released Sept. 11.

“Let’s f**king kill him! Let’s go in. Let’s kill the f**king lot of them,” Trump said, according to Woodward.

Mattis told the president that he would get right on it.

But after hanging up the phone, he told a senior aide: “We’re not going to do any of that. We’re going to be much more measured.”

The national security team then developed options for the more conventional airstrike that Trump ultimately ordered.

“The contemptuous words about the President attributed to me in Woodward’s book were never uttered by me or in my presence,” Mattis said in a statement. “While I generally enjoy reading fiction, this is a uniquely Washington brand of literature, and his anonymous sources do not lend credibility.”

Retired Marine Corps Gen. John Kelly, the White House chief of staff, is quoted as saying the president is an idiot, and that it’s the worst job he’s ever had.

Kelly issued a similar denial through the White House.

“The idea I ever called the President an idiot is not true,” Kelly said in a statement.

He called the book passage “another pathetic attempt to smear people close to President Trump and distract from the administration’s many successes.” (All passages are from the Miitary Times article, at the link above.)

Okay, I get that Woodward doesn’t like Trump. A lot of people don’t like Trump. So what? Is this supposed to be news? But putting words in his mouth? Should I put some words in your mouth, Woodward?

Bob Woodward did his best to get Nixon removed from office and with his coauthor Carl Bernstein, the two of them succeeded. But Woodward is still living on the glamour from those Glory Days at WaPo, the intrigue of Deep Throat, and exposing classified information about the war in Vietnam from Ellsberg, who should have been thrown into jail to share a cell with Nixon, for what he did. And frankly, both Woodward and Bernstein, and Kathryn Graham, who ran WaPo back then, should all have been thrown into jail for publishing that stuff.  It heinously jeopardized American lives over there in Southeast Asia. It was inexcusable.

Watergate has become a metaphor for dirty dog doings in Foggy Bottom. I get that. I was there, watching that crap transpire on live television during the Congressional hearings.

But this ain’t 1974, Woodward, and you don’t have a story. Try to understand that, for once.

There is no collusion going on in WDC. There’s no interference from the Soviet Union, now known as Russia but still the same old-same old Spy vs. Spy game. There is none of the conspiracy to make Trump look bad that you want so desperately to invent, no matter how much you want it to happen. As much as I’d like to go back to gas prices at $.50/gallon for regular (there was no unleaded at that period in history), unlike you, I have no desire to live in the past on faded glory, and watch a non-story turned into nothing more than some bored, retired reporter’s notion that he can again destabilize this country and create trouble where there is none.

There is NO Watergate here, you sap.

Get over yourself, Woodward. There is nothing – zero – zilch – nada – rien going on here except what you’ve tried to cook up out of whole cloth in your pissy mind. If you don’t have anything better to do than create a Tall Tale From Foggy Bottom out of dust bunnies, leftover bubble gum and stale soda crackers, then I suggest you retire to your domicile away from Washington and get over yourself.

Making up fictitious quotes alluded to people whom you did not interview means that you have nothing. Either provide their information or admit that you’re lying.

You have nothing.

You couldn’t write a believable novel if your life depended on it. How do I know that? Because you just had this one published, you sap. As for people in the administration (like John Kelly) calling dTrump an idiot, you should know most of us have said similar things ourselves but we’d rather have Trump in the Oval Office than whatever it was that ran against him.

You have nothing.

What’s the big deal? Trump’s smarter than you are. And while he is a lot of things, he is NOT Richard Nixon, who was also smarter then you have ever been.

I have spent a good deal of time cleaning horse stalls. I know horse shit when I see it. You’ve created quite a pile of it, Bob.

Enjoy the sales while they last, Bob, because – well, while even baloney has a market as sandwich filler, after a while, people want another flavor in their lives. And Watergate means nothing to the generations which are following mine.

And, no – your wishful thinking is not going to get this President unseated. This ain’t the 1970s, like I said. You should pay attention to such things.

What a maroon…..

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AW1Ed

It isn’t often Mattis is wrong.

He called this tripe “literature.”
*grin*

desert

Woodward is a phony a.h. has been, he hasn’t been in the news and wants his glory back, if the a.h. ever had any, now he is just another lying piece of shyt..imho!

Jeff LPH 3, 63-66

The left will be buying up his book faster than a mailbag at a railroad whistle stop.

JimmyB

I can see it popular with the Shrillary crowd but younger generations will be wondering – who? It’s funny as hell that the libtards keep doing this and every time, it just makes Trump more popular, not to mention, rile up us working folks so we all go vote in November.

A Proud Infidel®™

That or it’ll end up like Hitlery’s last book which is now literally cheaper than toilet paper!

UpNorth

I forsee a long stay in the $.99 bin at Walmart, for Wayward Woodward’s book.

Garold
Club Manager, USA ret.

Unrelated but I just want to brag. Fifty years ago today I made the smartest decision of my life and enlisted in the United States Air Force. I have never regretted that decision. The second smartest decision I made was applying for and receiving an appointment as a United States Army warrant officer. The third was marrying my “current wife” 40 years ago but the jury is still out on that one.

David

Just hit our 40th last week. Would think one of us coulda made parole by now.

AnotherPat

Congratulations, Club Manager, USA ret.!

Cheers! Virtual beer on the house for your three best decisions of your life…🤗

🍺🍻🍺🍻🍺🍻

HMC Ret

Good story, Club Manager. Seems we joined the military the same year, but I have eight years additional married life under my belt. You entered active service about two months prior to me. Hoping you have many additional years of happy married life. Blessings. I have similar story in a different order.

1st. Meeting and marrying Army Sp4, AKA The Russian, 1971
2nd. Joining Navy 1968
3rd. Making Chief
4th. Retiring 1991
5th. Second & final retirement, from VA, 2009

(Please note that being hired by the VA is not in the sequence of the best things I have done or had happen to me. If it were, it would rank somewhere South of many thousand. Bad idea.

1610desig

A book only fitting from which to tear pages to line my birdie cage….Knob Woodward might as well write for the National Enquirer….he should have left the hysterical fiction to that dumb cunt “Omarosa”

AnotherPat

Ex-PH2: Woodward just wants another movie made that has him as the lead character, but doubt he would have Robert Redford portray him again…😉

AW1Ed

And that would be a film that goes straight to video.

Oh yeah, nearly forgot- Go Navy!

AnotherPat

“And that would be a film that goes straight to video…”

How TRUE! 🤣

Need to bring in the Cavalry..GO ARMY!

(At least we know and can find comfort that both teams will never kneel at the playing of our National Anthem with our Colors being displayed)..

AnotherPat

Things I remember from 1974:

(1) A Super Tornado hit the Mid-US (impacted the area where I was living).

(2) Patty Hearst was kidnapped.

(3) The Governor of Georgia was Jimmy Carter.The Governor of California was Ronald Reagan.

(4) Phillippe Petit high wire walking between the Twin Towers in NYC.

(5) Hank Aaron.

(6) The passing of: Cass Elliot, Creighton Abrams, Dizzy Dean, Walter Brennan, Ed Sullivan, Earl Warren, Charles Lindbergh, Duke Ellington, Charlie Weaver, Chet Huntley, Buford Pusser, Jack Benny and others.

(7) 8 Track Tapes.

(8) Ali beat Foreman (Rumble in the Jungle).

(9) TV Shows: Kojak, All in the Family, the Jeffersons, Sanford and Son, Maude.

(10) The fad Streaking. Watched Live on Oscar night a Streaker running across stage while David Niven and Elizabeth Taylor were presentingan Oscar Award (“He is showing his shortcomings).

(11) Jimmy Conner VS Chris Evert.

(12) Having to drive 55 MPH all throughout the US.

(13) Movies: Young Frankenstein, Blazing Saddles.

(14) Muscle Cars.

Much more….🤗

sgt. vaarkman 27-48thTFW

I joined the USAF in 1974

Jon The Mechanic

I was 2 years old in 1974

5th/77thFA

I guess when SCOTUS struck down the original Stolen Valor Act they pretty much said you could lie or embellish any thing and get away with it. The press in WDC is what helped make the swamp. I guess true unbiased investigative journalism died along with ethics and honor. Remember ’74 fairly well too. Nixon’s biggest mistake was the whole cover up thing; Spiro getting busted for stupid stuff. didn’t help. Just shows how long the swamp has been around and how deep the muck goes. This winter when y’all get snowed in, for gits & shiggles, study up on the politics leading up to and during the WBTS. You may see many similarities. And again, we apologize for Jimmy; he had good intentions but the crocs and gators in the swamp got to him too. BTW Bringing dignity to what would otherwise be an ugly brawl The King of Battle says….Go Army! Beat Navy

A Proud Infidel®™️

Woodward gives us another piece of proof of what a filthy whorehouse DC can really be.

rgr769

That characterization is unfair to whorehouses everywhere. At least a whorehouse provides a desired service for a fee. The District of Criminals (home of the Deep State) is full of people bent on swindling the taxpayer out of his hard earned money (for nothing in return) and his/her freedom.

Ret_25X

Turned out that a lot of what has been passed on as “truth” about watergate is also false.

Note that it never troubled the WAPO to cover the story correctly as long as it went after Nixon.

For example, Nixon did not order a break in. Nixon was not using the National Security system to spy on adversaries.

Nixon was not using the intelligence from the NSA, CIA and FBI to “out” opponent candidates.

Nixon apparently was guilty only of attempting to cover up the break in…which was probably not even a US government sanctioned event…to protect his staff.

In fact, almost everything we know about watergate came from sources almost entirely outside any access to the “inside” info they provided to “journalists” who were not actually investigating a story, but writing hit pieces. Fake news did not start in 2016.

What should trouble everyone the most is that it has been 44 years now and we still do not know what was found in that office. Based on moves that occurred in the subsequent months (firings, general officer removals, and dead agents world wide), has always lead me to believe that the real story was that a political party of the USA was collaborating clandestinely with the KGB.

The KGB files on Kennedy seem to confirm that angle.

I rate the entire watergate story as mostly fake and rate the WAPO as entirely fake.

But then, yellow journalism has been a WAPO tradition since at least 1898.

rgr769

Yup, WAPO practically invented yellow journalism and helped start the Span-Am war.

Roger in Republic

The thing that tells me this nothing more than unadulterated BS is that if the President wanted Assad dead he would be dead as a Mackerel. Our bombs and missiles are so accurate that he could not escape a serious attempt to get him. You shoot two missiles . One at the building next to his car and one at the car. Oops! Just unfortunate collateral damage. My bad!

dana1371

Is it me or is there some connection to the release of anonymous sourced op-ed piece in the NY Times ripping up the President and bragging of sedition to coincide with the run up hype to the Woodward book of fairy tales?

UpNorth

Not just you, Dana.

Ken.T.

These writers of miff and fiction are akin to “Wanta-Bees” Every town has one and every true blue Cop knows one. Judgers have met dozens and the real world goes on with the sun rising and setting each and every day. those who know the truth and have walked the walk even at times with a stumble or two, get on with life. I am proud of my country and my way of life. May the Good Lord smitten my enemies with heavy paranoia.

Cthulhu

Maybe you should read the book before commenting with so much “authority” and conviction.

I trust and respect General Mattis. I will take his word denying the veracity of the specific comment attributed to him. Woodward did not quote Mattis. He quoted a colleague of Mattis that attributed the statement to Mattis.

However, there is a few hundred hours of audio recordings and most of the book cannot he dismissed as easily as the quote attributed to Mattis.

If we as a nation dismiss this book, or the testimonials of current and former senior officials warning us of the threat to the republic, we do so at our nation’s peril.

Willful ignorance is not patriotism.

Jarhead

Maybe so, but self delusion is not commensurate with logic. IMHO, we as a nation should at least consider dismissing this book (since we do not know the truth, and likely never will) as a work of hyperbole designed primarily to make the author a LOT of money.

Cthulhu

If I were to put money on who the NYT op-ed author is my money is on Ryan Zinke.

A Proud Infidel®™️

There is no low that the left will not stoop to.

Deplorable B Woodman

“Among the revelations in veteran PRESSTITUTE Bob Woodward’s new book……..”

There. Fixed it for ya. Yer Welcome