Utah teen brought a bomb to school
I know this has been all over the internet and the broadcast news programs and you’ve been bombarded every 30 minutes with images of frightened school children fleeing the smoldering bomb. What? You haven’t? Well, here it is now.
A teen was arrested in Pine View High School in the city of St. George when a bomb in his backpack began smoking. He’s also suspected of raising an ISIS flag at another school. From Associated Press;
No one was hurt Monday after the backpack was found in a common area of the school by a student who reported it to a teacher.
The boy was arrested and booked into a detention center on charges of manufacture, possession, sale, use or attempted use of a weapon of mass destruction, St. George police said in a statement.
No one was hurt, no damage was reported and the school reopened Tuesday morning for classes. Police did not describe the homemade bomb in detail but said it “had the potential to cause significant injury or death.”
“Based on our investigation we can confirm this was a failed attempt to detonate a homemade explosive at the school. It was also determined that the male had been researching information and expressing interest in ISIS and promoting the organization,” police said.
So why isn’t the story more popular? Well, there’s no blood, so the media doesn’t care and it doesn’t involve firearms, bombs are boring, especially when they fizzle and don’t kill and maim. No crying white mothers.
If the little terrorist MFer had only used a gun, especially a black, scary-looking gun with lots of accessory rails and a bayonet lug.
A bomb only highlights the fact that it’s people not guns that are a danger to kids in schools – can’t put that on the news.
Category: Gun Grabbing Fascists, Media
Just beat the crap out of this kid. If he’s that desperate for attention, show him what it feels like to get the wrong kind of attention.
Yeah, it is surprising that with a very recent school shooting, they wouldn’t lob this in too and talk about it. But, no guns, no blood, no violence so it is boring.
It is almost like the news is only reporting what gets them ratings or something. But that couldn’t be, they have journalistic integrity to report what the public should know.
‘Journalistic integrity’?????
(snorrtttt!) Okay, sure, MSG Eric, but I’ve run into dog biscuits that have more integrity (and intelligence) than what passes for journalists these days.
Thanks for the laughter!
I do what I can when we lose an hour of sleep for God and Country. 😉
You don’t understand. We need to protect kids from the guns. Bombs are safe and will only explode when someone makes them explode. They’re totally okay in schools. That’s why the media aren’t covering it.
We can all testify to the much larger potential damage from a bomb than a bullet. But that doesn’t fit the narrative. That this kid was incompetent is just a blessing.
If he was raising ISIS flags, was he just expressing teenage angst or is he a radicalized convert?
When they caught the little bastard with his ISIS flag and he did the ISIS graffiti on the school wall, they just went with teenage angst and hijinks. I guess the school officials decided a smoking homemade bomb was just a bridge too far.
Y’all are all wrong.
This kid was an actual terrorist with an actual implement of the terrorist variety. No ties to the NRA, Trump, or evil Republicans. Only a guess here, but the kid was probably other than white bread, so they are precluded from reporting it at all.
Now, most of us really don’t care at all about the political leanings, skin color, backpack fabric, GPA, gender, psych history, grandmother’s maiden name, or any other demographic characterization of the little criminal. His act of destruction was successfully halted before he caused a bunch of damage and for that we are grateful.
In reality, I am also grateful that I have not seen him elevated to a position of notoriety. Wish they would do the same with all of these terrorists. They should all remain anonymous.
Bingo.
According to Wikipedia, the school is grades 10-12. That means the bastard is almost certainly between 15 and 19 years old.
Try his ass as an adult, on Federal charges. Then if he’s found guilty, send him to prison like an adult. And if he’s naturalized, investigate de-naturalizing and deporting him.
He was charged as a juvenile. I hope that his ass is waived to adult court. And for his protection (his bright future, as I pointed out in a cmt in another thread about this buried bombing story) his name has been withheld. To me, this whole thing is insane. The bomb was real and deadly, according to police, and a search of the little bastard’s home turned up evidence of what one network called ‘an interest in ISIS.’ An interest? And we’re to take the newsies seriously?
The little SOB spray pained ISIS IS COMING on his school. Yeah, that’s taking an interest in world events, I guess.
That could mean anything.
As Clinton said, it depends on what the meaning of is is. He just forgot the space. Simple typo.
Is is is. [statement]
Is is? [question]
Is is! [emphatic confirmation of the statement]
I is done.
Is I?
I is!
(^__^)
Those darn Militant Mormons.
If he’s so allegiant to ISIS, send him to a fun tropical place to be with them called Guantanemo Bay.
I understand they have guest cottages there with catered halal meals
^^^Right on^^^
Isn’t it “Islamophobic” to report the facts about Islamic Terror?
I mean, we can’t have the citizens believing that the “Religion of Piece ™” wants to kill them…they might want to stop funding certain nations….if that happens, where will the graft money come from?
No, it’s not “Islamophobic” to report those facts. But it does contract the media’s favored worldview – and their agenda.
Isn’t your talking about it being islamaphobic, islamaphobic?
NO it is YOUR thinking about it being islamophobic that makes it so!
No name or age given, so the young lad must be a minor. Let’s hope that he’s tried as an adult for attempting to murder his fellow classmates and school staff.
The thing is, the little bastard’s name could be published so long as it wasn’t acquired from criminal justices sources. I would regard it as a public service, but the local newsies are just so fond of saying this or some thing siimilar: “The suspect is not named because he is a juvenile, police said.” Well, hell, there are numerous other ways to acquire the name. Chances are excellent that everyone in the school knows who it was.
Whether or not to reveal the name of a juvenile offender can be a tricky decision. Sometimes, for example, it can fall under a newspaper’s ethics policy; other times it can be a matter of local law which varies from state to state.
My own experience with juvenile confidentiality matters was that it was usually best to stick with what the cops were telling you. They usually have reasons for doing what they do. Make an end run around the legal system, and you could also piss off not only the cops but also a court judge who might demand that you either reveal a source or risk being jailed for contempt.
Reporters on a local crime beat often develop amiable working relationships with the police. You have your job, and they have theirs. It’s also not unusual for the cops to have a sense of how the media works. Sometimes they’ll ask, “What’s your deadline?” and get back to you later with an answer to a question they might not have initially.
All of which can be thrown out the window when network-level TV gets involved in a media feeding frenzy.
I could disagree more, but I’m not sure how. State law controls these things BUT state law does not trump the 1st amendment and the source of a juvenile’s name actually matters. If reporters or papers are concerned about pissing off cops and judges, they ought to find a new line of work. Papers routinely report arrests of adults and rarely, if ever, report on the case disposition (e.g., not guilty.) Papers also routinely undercut state law by reporting police and court actions that ruin a defendant’s chance for a true record expungement, where that is available.
On second thought, you only articulated what you know about how the papers decide whether to publish the names. It’s not your position so I don’t disagree with you. I disagree with the papers’ policies.
2/17, stuff like this isn’t a matter of rolling over for the cops. Sorry if I gave that impression. It’s more a matter of picking the important fights you can win. If state law is such that it is illegal to publish a juvenile’s name without a court order, are you suggesting a reporter who knows the name should go ahead and publish it anyway? Even if it means jail time?
I’m not sure I agree. This is more like where the First Amendment can be preempted by context. Similar, for example, to when somebody shouts “Fire!” in a crowded theater. If memory serves, the Supreme Court has also ruled that juvenile privacy can trump free speech under certain circumstances.
So far, I’m not seeing much in the Utah story except a pissant wannabe jihadi. His case is not important enough to fight a long court battle in order to contest state privacy law. Let the cops and courts work their own side of the street. Unless they botch the case, or there’s additional evidence the kid poses a serious threat to public safety, things shouldn’t need to go any further than that.
Still, you’re right about the fact that reporters should not act as simply stenographers for law enforcement. One of the alternatives the press would have in this situation is that it might be possible to flesh out a lot of relevant details of the bomb maker’s circumstances without ever specifically revealing his name.
I’d also comment on the press’ lack of reporting on case dispositions except it opens a whole other can of worms having to do with how courts do scheduling, and how the wheels of justice grind slowly but exceedingly fine.
It’s all about the source of the juvenile’s name, Perry. If a reporter legally learns the identity of this or any other juvenile charged with a crime, the reporter may publish it if the paper’s policy permits. It’s that simple. No state law that purports to effect prior restraint of the kind you describe can withstand 1st A. challenge. This isn’t something we can debate. It’s a done deal.
Geez, PG. The kid built a freaking bomb – then took it to his high school and tried to set it off. The only reason we didn’t see a mass casualty situation was the fact that he was incompetent at making bombs.
What the hell more do you need to show “poses a serious threat to public safety”?
Hondo, obviously the little reptile posed a threat by constructing the defective bomb. Still, the cops, for reasons of their own such as state law or orders from a judge, decided to withhold his name.
My argument is that, given the current known facts, there is not much of an apparent reason why a reporter should spend a lot of time tracking down the kid’s name for public release. It potentially opens a legal can of worms, and the cost/benefit ratio makes it not worth it.
On the other hand, if facts emerge that the kid, for example, is the son of a local mullah, and that there’s evidence the kid was building nuclear weapons in the mullah’s garage, and that the cops are withholding such information because somebody in the LEO food chain is pals with the mullah, then it would seem logical to make public the kid’s name. Such might provide a benefit beyond a simple matter of revenge and public shaming.
I’m not defending juvenile privacy laws; I’m merely pointing out why a reporter might not want to pick a legal fight about them in this instance.
And my point was what more do you need than someone (1) building a device designed to produce mass casualties, (2) taking it to a school, and (3) apparently attempting to set it off (it was found smoking, remember?) to show the individual poses “a serious threat to public safety”?
Hell, IMO those facts are more than enough to show a serious threat to public safety – and to put the bastard behind bars without bond pending trial as an adult. All indications are that he literally tried to commit mass murder; he only failed because he was incompetent as a bomb maker. I don’t want him to have a second opportunity to “get it right”.
Why the police are treating this as a juvenile incident, and why they’re not releasing the bastard’s name, are entirely separate issues. I wasn’t addressing either in my previous comment.
“[T]here is not much of an apparent reason why a reporter should spend a lot of time tracking down the kid’s name for public release. It potentially opens a legal can of worms, and the cost/benefit ratio makes it not worth it.”
First, if I lived in that area, I would all ready have the would-be bomber’s name. Everyone in the immediate area knows who it was. He’s the kid who was on FB, the kid that was whisked away by police, the kid that hasn’t been to school since the attempted bombing. You are an apologist for lazt or inept reporters. Second, there is no legal can of worms. Public record information is not available to the reporter. All other information is, from friends, acquaintances, to family and FB itself. You make good points more often than not but this is a not, Perry.
Nothing on this by the lame stream media? I guess they “BOMBED” out on this story.
His name is “Johnny Lunchmeat”
Even in juvie he will be thin sliced and served on toasted white bread. Iffin they send this AAA+++ Loser to the Big House, well…..he will be wiping a LOT of mayo off his chin.
As for Das Media….may the T.P. roll always be empty whenever they reach for a wipe off.
May their next Doctor Appointments be with sadistic Proctologitsts That have huge fingers and piss-poor depth perception.
I’m surprised at everyone just jumping to conclusions here! It was a home made “clock” and you are all raaacccissstts! /s
I thought the same thing. The boy was just expressing his creativity by making a clock- and attaching some explosives to it. Perfectly harmless, juvenile fun.
This is proven by the fact that making a bomb and taking it to school was already illegal, and when we make certain acts illegal they don’t happen any more.
And he invented it all by himself to demonstrate the advanced state of Islamic science and technology. Cuz ISIS “inspired” him to create the digital clock.
Beat his ass, beat his parent’s assrs, and if it turns out people knew about his fucktardery and did nothing, beat their asses too.
I second that.
I don’t know why, but I’m just picturing Oprah…
You get an ass beating! And you get an ass beating! And you get an ass beating! Everybody gets an ass beating!
Opruh’s new movie came out and I throw up in my mouth every time I see that WalMart electric cart driving mayonnaise slurping cloven hoof monster’s face in the ads and featured predominately on IMDB and Fandango.
Deport everyone involved.
So where are the hordes of bleeding heart proglodytes screaming for Bomb Control Laws, shouldn’t the act of making one and taking it to school be outlawed?
Yes. But it must be made more illegaler.
Also must be made illegal at the additional levels:
State
County
City
School District policy
School Student Handbooks
Class Syllabus
They could break out all those dusty old “Ban the Bomb” banners and signs from back in the 1960’s. Where are those aging Hippies when we need them?
Are we sure this isn’t Clockmed going for round 2? Whatever happened to that shit stain.
Media not reporting about Islamic terrorism? Shocking……
Because he failed, does that mean he’s going to be one of somebody’s 72 virgins? Well, unless he goes to prison, then he’ll just be a broken-in virgin.
RE: scary black rifle. You forgot about that thing that goes up in the back.
Looks like “Marvin” had another squib.
“Where’s the Kaboom? I was expecting an Earth-shattering Kaboom.”
Delays, delays!
Now I Will Have To Make More Martians!
No boom today. Boom tomorrow. There’s always a boom tomorrow.
Susan Ivanova from the Babylon 5 episode “Grail”
And if this student turns out to be one of those 24-year old teenagers it could become even more interesting.
Serious question:
What prevents L/E from entering kids like this one into NICS? (It may not prevent the purchase of a firearm in the future, but it might). “Prank” or not, there should be some consequences (though NICS is more of an administrative (preventative measure) thing, rather than a consequence.
I suspect had the fuckwit in Parkland, FL been held accountable and actually charged with his crimes, I’ll go out on a limb and say he may have been found ineligible to purchase the “scary black” rifle he used.
Ya think?
The Florida a**hole had threatened people at gunpoint, but for whatever reason wasn’t charged by local LE.
Threatening someone with a firearm is a felony many if not most places. If I recall correctly, someone facing felony charges is legally prohibited from acquiring or possessing a firearm. Any he owned could have been impounded by local LE pending trial, and had he been reported to NICS he couldn’t have legally acquired any others.
Wouldn’t have prevented him from acquiring one from another criminal in a back-alley deal for cash – but that fact, while true, is also irrelevant. No law is going to prevent a criminal from doing that. Criminals by definition ignore the law and do what they please.
Exactly why all these so called “gun control” laws have no impact on people prepared to commit mass murders that could earn them the “big sleep.”
Where underage transgressions are precluded from being made public and being reported, the clock could be reset when they reach the age of accountability. It’s like whatever they did at 15 just disappears.
A tool that can successfully be used is getting an underage criminal charged as an adult due to his history of criminal activity. Why wasn’t that done with the FL PoS? Simple – he wasn’t charged with anything ever so there was no pattern to report. Everybody knew but it wasn’t recorded in official documents.
BOMB BAN!!!
No, but seriously, inept terrorist are my second favorite type. The dead ones are tops. . .