Army needs a new communication system

| November 23, 2017

Bobo sends us a link from Business Insider which reports that Army had to dump their Warfighter Integrated Network – Tactical (WIN-T) battlefield communications system because it found to be vulnerable to attacks by Russian and Chinese hackers. So they’re stuck with the 6 billion dollar system while they go shopping for another one;

When it was deployed to Afghanistan for the first time in 2013, the system proved that it could push information around the way commanders envisioned. But that was against an enemy with no ability to listen in, or jam communications.

As defense planners look toward more demanding battlefield scenarios in Europe, the flaws of WIN-T are becoming apparent. The system has little protection against electronic countermeasures, and it is bulky and takes two days to set up, requiring large command tents bristling with servers and antennae. Defense officials fear those command posts will act as a beacon, attracting attacks from sophisticated enemies.

And for any war in Europe, the Army is prioritizing speed and maneuverability, which would be hard to maintain with the current system.

So, it will be like Windows, with updates and patches issued every few days to plug vulnerabilities until the next gap is found. Nice.

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OlafTheTanker

It’s fine, PEO C3T (Their parent Command) saved at least that much after Ft Monmouth closed, and they spent Billions to save Millions in moving everything south to Aberdeen.

oh, wait..

Ret_25X

in truth, PEO C3T did not move CECOM or make the decision to move. In fact, our “most popular president ever”, Mr. Rapey Clinton, drove that round of BRAC.

Sj

WD1. TA312. Solved.

Ret_25X

nope. problem increased

Jeff LPH 3, 63-66

Didn’t the Army ever hear of using 2 Heinz bean cans with 2 shirt buttons tied too a zillion miles of 5 & dime string?? What about smoke signals, August lamps and 2 hand held signal flags. Can’t hack those. Forgot the carrier pidgeons.

OldSoldier54

So Big Army … I wish I could be more positive, but …

I wonder if this was another of Michelle’s college buddies, because spending massive amounts of money for crap has all of the same fingerprints the ACA has on it.

OldSoldier54

The website, that is.

Ret_25X

No, just the normal back and forth between system design and attackers. All designs become vulnerable.

Ex-PH2

Code talkers. Some unknown invented language like Navina or Sejith A. Find native speakers to teach it to the Commo guys. Learn to use Linear A. Anglo-Saxon and Scots Gaelic are good, too. Mandan, Biloxi, Lakota – all good. Or just dig up the WWI code books, use those as a reference and start over from scratch.

I guess this stems from the big-shiny-better infestation, doesn’t it?

Ret_25X

wouldn’t work. The code talkers were only effective because Japan did not have the connection to find the linguistic base. That is no longer true.

In addition, all IP based systems are vulnerable to even script kiddies and low tech attacks.

When they say they need to rethink the system, they are not talking about new language or codes, but new technological baselines.

OldSoldier54

“When they say they need to rethink the system, they are not talking about new language or codes, but new technological baselines.”

Now that makes a LOT more sense.

Big Army is still penny wise and dollar foolish, IMO.

Ex-PH2

I didn’t say Navajo code talkers, now, did I?

Yef

Enigma machine!

A Proud Infidel®™

NOPE, we hacked that AND Japan’s Ultra!

11B-Mailclerk

Modern computational power would break Enigma in seconds.

The Old Maj

Just the computer, not so much. An Enigma ran at about 380 bits which is much, much higher than current gold standard of encryption of 256 bits. A computer the size of the planet would take decades to break it going brute force.

The techniques for cracking codes are much improved over that era. Proper techniques supported by computers would likely take it down fast though.

Ret_25X

The truth is that WIN-T was the right answer at the time it was fielded.

Expect the lifecycle of comms gear to come down from decades to months from now on.

The flash to bang between new release and viable attack in the wild is often hours now.

26Limabeans

PRC-25 and a KAK wheel.

SFC D

I have a couple of PRC-77’s that followed me home. And a couple of TA838’s. Maybe I can call myself a “small telecommunications company” and get federal aid.

Deplorable B Woodman

I wonder if this system, once it’s “washed out” of the military system, can be reconfigured and used for amateur (ham) radio?

RM3(SS)

Ah what the hell it’s only our tax money, not like we have anything better to spend it on.

Green Thumb

Curious to if many of these “techs” and computer gurus understand the recourse and funerals/causalities if comms go to shit.

Yeah.

And keep looking to bring IT folks in at Officer pay rates without any formal basic training.

Go Army!

And we wonder why we suck?

USAF E-5

The problem as I see it, is thinking data/information is as important as decisions or leadership. It’s not. But only if you want to win. If all you want to do is play, information and data are great, but they won’t put you over the line.

OWB

Has there ever been a time when a communications system did not eventually either become obsolete or compromised by an enemy? Seems like the objective has always been to protect our secrets better and to discover theirs more efficiently. While that may have changed somewhat, at least in some ways, can we not recover from this? Technology may have changed, but the basic principles have not.

E4 Mafia For Life.

We essentially had zero coms. We were using the old lead based PRC-66’s with dry cell batteries filled with chalk and sawdust.
They were extremely secure because they never worked.
The channel selector dials were replaced with oven knobs. Sometimes you could hear every 4th word on the “BROIL” setting.
Not quite the quality of drive through speakers at an old fast food restaurant.
The E-7’s and above plus the officers all bought Motorola police radios with their own cash.
Waxed string and coffee cans would have been a serious improvement.