Terror attacks in Canada and France

| October 2, 2017

There were two attacks that local law enforcement are calling “terror attacks”, one in Canada and another in France. In Edmonton, Canada, a man drove a U-Haul truck into a crowd of people;

An apparent ISIS flag was seized from the passenger seat of the truck, he confimed.

“We believe the individual acted alone,” Knecht said. He confirmed that an ISIS flag was seized from the vehicle initially connected with the attack on the police officer.

The chaos began outside the Edmonton Eskimos football game at Commonwealth Stadium at 8 p.m. local time (10 p.m. ET) Saturday when police say a vehicle rammed a traffic control barricade and sent an officer flying into the air.

Knecht says the driver of the vehicle then got out and “viciously” stabbed the officer several times with a knife before fleeing.

The driver then struck four pedestrians before the truck flipped over. At the time of the article last night, the conditions of the pedestrians was unknown.

Meanwhile in Marseilles, France, a knifeman killed two women before a soldier was able to shoot him dead;

Police sources said the suspect had shouted “Allahu Akbar” (God is greatest) in Arabic as he attacked the women, aged 17 and 20, at Marseille’s main railway station.

Two police sources said one had her throat slit while the other was stabbed in the chest and stomach.

The assailant was shot dead by a soldier from a military Sentinelle patrol, a force deployed across the country as part of a state of emergency declared after Islamist attacks that began almost two years ago.

“We have until now managed to avoid such dramatic incidents (in Marseille). I think it was a terrorist attack and the individual who was killed seems to have had several identities,” Marseille mayor Jean-Claude Gaudin

As the Islamic State shrinks in landmass, they’ll surely find other ways to attract adherents.

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Jay

Makes me wonder if the Vegas attack is connected. Crazy world we are living in now….

A Proud Infidel®™

I wonder if the Vegas shooter wasn’t some kind of Antifa nut case as well?

11B-Mailclerk

Whatever the motive, the excrement has certainly hit the fan.

In the currently hyper-partisan atmosphere, -no one- is going to accept “lone crazy, unaffiliated” .

The political exploitation is going to be epic, and likely savage.

Keep cool, folks. This situation demands it.

Ex-PH2

Spot on.

Graybeard

Roger on the “Keep cool” directive, 11B.

Good advice in any situation.

Fyrfighter

Yep, just woke up to this, not seeing many details as yet, does anyone have more?

Graybeard

I’m a year older than he, and the draft ended just before I could get my “Greetings” letter.

YMMV

David

If you are 65 you were eligible and had your number drawn in ’71 like me. The last draftees were inducted in June ’73. I remember when they announced they would be taking no more draftees… certainly made future planning easier when a two-year potential vacation was removed.

Graybeard

Yep. Spot on. I was wondering if I’d be going on my honeymoon or an all-expenses paid vacation to SE Asia.

I lucked out and got the honeymoon.

Mick

It’s reported that the shooter employed a fully automatic weapon(s) from the 32nd floor of the Mandalay Bay Resort and Casino in Las Vegas to shoot into a large crowd of concert-goers.

Casualty estimates are still fluctuating; the latest report that I heard on the news was 50+ killed, and 400+ wounded.

Fyrfighter

Haven’t heard the “automatic weapon ” line.. could well be wishful thinking from some gun banning reporter. news here says 10 “long range rifles” in the room

Mick

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-41466116

‘[…]

Hundreds of people fled the scene and the sound of what appeared to be prolonged automatic gunfire could be heard on videos posted on social media.

[…].’

Fyrfighter

Thanks for the link! Yeah, can’t argue that it does sound like an automatic weapon.

NotBuyingIt

To me, it seems the sound of the rounds varies from video to video. Difference could be caused by various factors. In some it sounds like a 7.62 X 39, others a 5.56.
I’m wondering if it could be a legal semi-auto using a slide-fire stock and drum mags.

Mick

And so the political exploitation begins:

David Letterman
(@DavidLetternan)
Las Vegas shooter Stephen Paddock was NOT a “lone wolf”, he was NOT “mentally ill”, he was a TERRORIST. End white privilege today.

Charles Clymer🏳️‍🌈
(@cmclymer)
It matters to say Stephen Paddock was white and that he was a terrorist. This was a terrorist attack by a white male. We are more likely to be killed by white men w/ guns in this country than foreign terrorists who claim to be Muslim. Why is there no ban on them? #LasVegas

Fyrfighter

Not surprising at all.. also not surprising that the report i hear saying his facebook had leftist lean to it has been omitted from their rants..

A Proud Infidel®™

NEVER underestimate how LOW liberals will go to get publicity.

Fyrfighter

NEVER let a crisis go to waste either…

David

Was funny this morning; Robin Givens was trying to throw a gun-control slant on ‘the devastating effects of this ammunition’ into an interview with the Vegas police spokesman, he kept on topic, talked right past her, and made her look like an idiot.

Fyrfighter

Good on him, though not very hard to do, she does most of the work for you..

Jay

Robin Givens? She must’ve taken too many chin shots from Mike Tyson to make a full/effective argument.

David

My apologies; Robin Roberts. Sorry, she is too inconsequential to remember her correct name. The lesbian ABC newsie.

11B-Mailclerk

the cunning linguist that is still trying to lick Bush?

Fyrfighter

That little tiara wearing fuck and letterman need to go on a date to the bermuda triangle, or somewhere similar, and just never come back….

A Proud Infidel®™

It’s been said now that a female CBS executive type has been canned for publicly saying that the attack wasn’t that big a deal because Country Fans are likely to be Trump supporters, how slimy can someone make themselves to be?

Fyrfighter

well, it’s not often that i’d commend CBS, but if they did actually shitcan that little leftist bitch, good en em..

Ex-PH2

These incidents seem to be taking place in heavily populated areas. It’s disturbing that a train station becomes a trap for a killer to use on people, but this is no different than attacking people on a bus or a train. Like that hasn’t happened before.

Glad I don’t have to commute any more.

A Proud Infidel®™

“These incidents seem to be taking place in heavily populated areas.”

Another reason I like living in the boonies.

Graybeard

+1

David

Sutton’s Law: when asked why he robed banks, Willie Sutton (at the time America’s leading bank robber) replied “Because that’s where the money is.” You want targets, seek a target-rich environment.

Jeff LPH 3, 63-66

Am now awaiting the mass hysteria from the emotional left about firearms confiscation over the tragic Las Vegas incident.

A Proud Infidel®™

I’m sure we’ll hear it from the MSM before lunch, ditto with D-rat pols.

A Proud Infidel®™

YEP, here it is already, D-rat pols dancing in the blood of those murdered:

http://dailycaller.com/2017/10/02/democrats-immediately-call-for-gun-control-after-las-vegas-shooting/

Jay

THIS is why I carry, ALWAYS. Always have more than just the mag in the weapon too.

Fyrfighter

Definitely a good plan, though in this situation, doubtful it would have been any help.

11B-Mailclerk

engagement range looks like 150-250 meters. (Based on what Fox was showing early AM.

Not too many of the targeted folks could hit back with a CCW pistol. He was barricaded pretty good, too.

This loon -planned- this ambush. He was not totally bonkers. He had enough know-how to pull off a competent ambush. He was able to fly under everyone’s radar.

His social media posts will be revealing. As will his most recent circle of acquaintances.

RM3(SS)
Fyrfighter

Reports I just heard were approx 300+ meters.. yeah, nothing short of a true counter-sniper would have been effective at that range, especially with possibility of collateral damage from any other type of return fire

Ex-PH2

Whatever the distance was, he was in his hotel room shooting into the crowd below. He had offed himself by the time the police got there.

This crank was the son of notorious bank robber Benjamin Paddock who was on the FBI’s most wanted list in the 1960s after escaping from a federal prison.

Like father, like son. We’ll never know what motivated him. Probably just hated crowds, or liked sitting ducks as targets.

Graybeard

There is a lot of seriously odd stuff going on with this situation.

It appears from early reports [i.e. this may be all wrong] that his brother had no clue, the shooter (may his name vanish from all memory) had no experience with weapons, that he had multiple weapons converted to full-auto – which he had zero experience in doing himself…

It is going to be interesting to see what the investigators turn up in their investigation. ISIS is claiming him – and it certainly makes sense that someone from that group could have provided what the shooter was lacking in resources and experience.

The msm is harping on his father being a bad guy in the 60’s, but that doesn’t seem to have much in the way of relevance unless there is an inherited mental problem at play.

For now I think that most of the breathless reporting is just the need to say something, and the final results will be something different than the current suppositions.

RM3(SS)

Crowds have always made me uncomfortable, having worked a few scenes where panic strikes. Lots of people get injured/killed from the pushing, shoving and trampling.
No concerts, ball games, etc. Sorry, can’t do it.

Ex-PH2

Same here. The real danger is in the stampede of herd panic.

Mick

Current live press conference in Las Vegas at approximately 1145 Eastern time now reports 58 killed and 515 wounded.

AnotherPat

The Shooter killed himself.

Mick

Yes, he did.

My comment was in reference to the updated/revised casualty count that was just presented at the live press conference in Las Vegas. Hopefully the numbers won’t increase any more.

David

pity these fuckwads don’t just cut to the chase and off themselves first. Ought to be something that can be done… never mention their names, erase all records of their existence, impoverish their families – I am literally spitballing but rather than some knee-jerk do-nothing-effective Hillaryish BS, there should be some study of what might actually WORK to deter this nonsense.

Bill M

I certainly agree, but with that many injured, we may loose some more over the next couple of weeks. Also doesn’t surprise me that the Dems are already in full voice on gun control.

From listening to the videos of the shooting, it certainly sounds like an automatic weapon. Sounds differ from video to video (partially attributable to location of recording relative to the shooter, I suspect), but it appeared consistent with an automatic weapon or weapons. Have to wait for more information to be released.

11B-Mailclerk

few “improvised” rapid fire gizmos can dump a hundred rounds without a hiccup, especially if the shooter is trying to aim.

That eight-ball put a bunch of work into his setup. A whole bunch.

Geetwillickers

Honestly – I have been waiting to hear the thoughts on the weapon in use from folks who have actually heard gunfire from the incoming end of business like most of the dickweeds around here. (I am not one of these… my time in the Army included zero instances of people shooting at me. Except that one misunderstanding with Range Control, and that was more “in my direction”, than at me.)

Anyway – anyone else think they can tell what kind of weapon it was? Sounds too slow to be an AR, maybe an AK? And the extremely long time to change magazines jives with the PITA that I have seen with swapping drums on an AK.

But like I said – I am no expert.

Geetwillickers

Just re-watched – approx 37 seconds for the first mag change (assuming of course, that was what the initial pause was for.)

Even the most ate-up Joe at his first BRM range should be able to do better than that, right?

11B-Mailclerk

he had two rooms. He may have relocated during the long pause

He may have been trying to clear a stoppage. An overheated gun can get a case stuck, so badly as to be almost impossible to remove without tools.

He may have been waiting for responders, so as to target them.

He may have just been admiring his handiwork.

Nuts is nuts.

NotBuyingIt

Recent report from MSM quotes LE source as saying he had both .308 and .223 semi-autos, converted to full auto.

Geetwillickers

Linky?

(Not casting doubt… srsly want to read your source.)

Geetwillickers

Thx. Interesting read, but not much concrete info.

Especially when they start telling the relative power of a gun based on how many adults it will go through. Sheesh… Who made that crap up.

Anyway. Thanks for posting the link.

AnotherPat

Owe you an apology, Mick. Meant to post separately and not as a reply to your update on the number of casualities. Thank you for the info.

Graybeard

While in Chicago for all of September there were 57 shot & killed, 273 shot & wounded, according to heyjackass.com

YTD they report 496 shot & killed, 2,386 shot & wounded, with a total of 533 homicides.

But we need Chicago-like gun-control to stop things like Las Vegas. /sarc

11B-Mailclerk

So,

Compared to Nevada,

-Ten- times the fatalities and

-four- times the wounded

In Chicago, whose gun laws we should emulate.

AnotherPat

Not a Tin Foil conspiracy guru and always make attempt to check resources/information (especially fake news)…But…has anyone else seen the video that supposely shows the shooter with his girlfriend demonstrating this past August at the Reno NV Anti-Trump demonstration? As a sceptic, watched it (without sound)..he is wearing the stupid pink knitted kitty cat cap with a pink tshirt that has the word NASA on the front. The woman next to him in the protest does look like his girlfriend…and to be honest, the man depicted in the video DOES look him. Don’t know if him attending the protest (that is, if it is him in the video) has anything to do with what did, but it did caught my attention. Last: If any NFL Football member tonite still gets down on their knees to protest during the National Athem, especially after the massacre of innocent people, then those morons have really hit BELOW rock bottom.

11B-Mailclerk

haven’t seen that or heard of it. Is there a source?