Trump pardons Arpaio
According to the AZCentral, President Trump has pardoned former Sheriff Joe Arpaio from the charges that he had racially-profiled criminals in Arizona;
The White House announced the pardon Friday evening in a news release that recounted Arpaio’s lengthy career of “admirable service” in federal and local law enforcement and called him “a worthy candidate for a Presidential pardon.”
Reached moments after the announcement, Arpaio said he had not spoken to
Trump, but “I’m very appreciative of the president issuing that pardon. It shows how he backs up law enforcement.”Arpaio told The Arizona Republic he learned of the president’s action from his lawyer, who visited him Friday at about 4 p.m. at Arpaio’s Fountain Hills home.
I am pleased to inform you that I have just granted a full Pardon to 85 year old American patriot Sheriff Joe Arpaio. He kept Arizona safe!
— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) August 26, 2017
From the New York Times;
The criminal conviction grew out of a lawsuit filed a decade ago charging that the sheriff’s office regularly violated the rights of Latinos, stopping people based on racial profiling, detaining them based solely on the suspicion that they were in the country illegally and turning them over to the immigration authorities.
A federal district judge hearing the case ordered Mr. Arpaio in 2011 to stop detaining people based solely on suspicion of their immigration status, when there was no evidence that a state law had been broken. But the sheriff insisted that his tactics were legal and that he would continue employing them.
I’m sure this won’t endear the President to his political opponents because it was the last administration that hounded Arpaio. It’s just Trump being the anti-Obama.
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Trump could take a few lessons from Sheriff Joe and learn a LOT.
About how to turn public service into a criminal conspiracy to violate the rights of American citizens?
How about you shut the fuck up and go away…
Who here rattled their zipper ???
Let me rephrase your statement to MAJOR ASSHOLE…
“How about you shut the fuck up and go away… BIGOT!”
Bigot?
Stop projecting.
And take a pill or you will have ANOTHER heart attack.
Go outside, take a deep breath, and star at the peaceful Oklahoma sky.
Wrong again….
Due to the cloud cover from Harvey, if he is in Okie, he won’t be able to “star” at the peaceful sky
Hey Lars your babydady noObama liberated most of Camp X-Ray.
Don’t forget about the 2500 plus pardons he handed out
Including a terrorist and a commutation for Manning the traitor, because transgender.
Doesn’t even hold a candle to how the Constitution is being violated by “public service” individuals in San Francisco, Chicago and other cities that declare themselves sanctuary cities for ILLEGAL immigrants.
Or, “public service” individuals that pass illegal laws to control, restrict or flat out ban firearms contrary to the Second Amendment.
But heaven forbid if someone tries to enforce immigration laws.
Commissar, as a former Army officer, did you ever really understand the words of the “Oath Of Enlistment” when you raised your right hand and said them? In case you didn’t, here’s a refresher:
OATH OF ENLISTMENT
I, _____, do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; and that I will obey the orders of the President of the United States and the orders of the officers appointed over me, according to regulations and the Uniform Code of Military Justice. So help me God.
Actually skyjumper, if he was an officer, that is not the oath we take. There is an enlisted oath and a commissioned oath, basically the same, leave out the orders of the officers appointed over me part.
Thanks, Retired Grunt.
I guess I was thinking of the initial oath one took when they first entered the military.
If I were put back on duty I would Obey the president’s orders as long as they were lawful and constitutional
That does not mean I have to think highly of Arpaio or the president’s poor choice in pardoning him.
Or that I have to think the president is a good president.
Officers subject to the UCMJ are not allowed to criticize the president. But I am not subject to the UCMJ in my current status.
Also, why didn’t you post that Oath thousands times during the last 8 years given the relentless and open criticizing, disrespect, and name calling against Obama. Why was the Oath not an issue to you then?
When I was on active duty I was not at all happy with Bush Jr. Or Clinton before that. But I did not criticize them. Until I was no longer serving.
Obama used his position to sell guns to drug cartels. That’s a hell of alot worse than pulling someone over and asking for id. Go shit in a bucket at some stank ass rally Lars.
I thought we weren’t allowed to talk about that because “executive privilege”?
Seriously, Arpaio but American citizens in jail and held them for days until someone could prove their citizenship.
That is insanely wrong.
And if you were a true “small government” conservative you would not be defending it.
And the “what about-ism” of Obama selling guns is nonsense. I can just throw that back with Reagan selling guns to Iran in spite of an embargo prohibiting it.
Does that change anything Arpaio did or make it ok for a law enforcement officer with no lawful jurisdictional authority to even enforce immigration laws and to detain and jail US citizens until they can prove their citizenship.
It is ridiculous for you to defend it. And even more ridiculous to try to dodge defending it by pulling a bullshit “what-aboutism”.
Today is field day at my house and it was my turn to clean the toilet (I hate it but my wife did it last week) and as I was using the brush I dislodged a crusty bit under the rim (a stomach bug has been going around) and I thought to myself “LARS”!!
Your head is so far up your ass you likely need to scrub a few crusty bits from behind your ears.
Jeez you are a sheep minded little shit.
Join this board and immediately start running with the flock.
Bah bah bah
Hey, Lars, your hypocrisy is showing!
For what? How am I a hypocrite?
Don’t you have somewhere else to be? Get back in your Mom’s basement and shut up.
That’s awesome! good for Sheriff Joe! And I can hear the leftist heads exploding all the way out here in the sticks!
Well, one of those leftist heads exploded here at 9:25am, when Poodle Dick posted.
We’ll have to add this to our list of things to talk about over a beer, Fyr! I admit I haven’t followed news about Arpaio much, but it seems to me like he’s a guy who wanted results (good) but without the due diligence required in police work (bad). The end result was a lot of constitutional violations, moral issues and, on a financial note, a cost of nearly $71M to the county from in five years. I mean, he bragged about putting people in ‘concentration camps’ – that’s a pretty un-American thing to tout!
It’s almost like a cop who, say, shoots an armed robber. If that’s all you focus on, great. The guy is a hero. But what if in doing that, the cop also hit 13 innocents nearby because he sucks at aiming? Is the end result, something that’s clearly good in taking down an armed robber, worth the collateral damage it took?
On the whole, even if the Sheriff’s intentions were good, he’s got a long list of terrible things he’s responsible for. It doesn’t seem like something worth celebrating to me.
Thank you again LC for being the reasonable man in the room.
Hey asshole…you can’t even spell REASONABLE!
??? Du fuk??
He enforced the law, treated criminals accordingly (sleeping in tents SANS cable TV,…) and was CHARGED with violations, just what was he convicted of?
BOTH of you cotton candy headed bunny-fart glitter-puffs need to realize that as the Anti-Obama agenda continues it further GUARANTEES the reelection of President Trump in 2020!! 😀 😀 😀
Both these progtard wussies should never have the power to decide or direct anything. They clearly have impaired reasoning and judgment as a result of many years of drinking proggie Kool-Aid. They are fellow travelers of Kamala Harris, that brilliant legal mind who tweeted that Trump should not pardon Arpaio because after all “he was convicted of a crime.” I think I knew even before law school that people not convicted of a crime don’t get or need pardons.
Maricopa county’s crime rates continued to decline while he was sheriff. He was always unapologetic about treatment of prisoners. However, he was never charged with a crime for treatment of inmates. Never charged with anything other than contempt of court for “profiling of latinos”.
Talking about cost of anything in the government is useless as the government spends money like it isn’t theirs. (It isn’t, that’s the point before you sharp shoot me about that. gosh!)
“Terrible things” is a very broad term with not many specifics to it. And you can talk about constitutional “violations” all day long, but he wasn’t sued or charged with anything but that one thing.
The judge in the case can write all the fancy hyperbole he wants, but that is irrelevant because the judge only saw one thing as “illegal” and one thing as “contempt”. I read a few different articles about how “the they” said he was violating constitutional rights, human rights, making dogs and cats live together, etc etc. But, only one charge. Why? Well, I guess housing prisoners in shitty conditions with no TV, no XBox, no internet, eating bologna sandwiches isn’t “illegal” after all. I just can’t believe access to the internet isn’t a civil right!
Should he have gotten so involved in the illegal immigrant functions? That’s a tough call because every local law enforcement agency in border states deals with illegal immigrants (and, hint hint, there aren’t a whole lot crossing the Rio Grande from Europe and Scandinavia). Is every illegal immigrant coming to the US committing a crime? YES. They are here “illegally” after all.
And the substantial difference between administrations. There is a 70% reduction in illegal immigrants to the country since Trump was sworn in. As Dana Perino from The Five said months ago, “Trump is the Wall”. He didn’t have to build a physical wall, he is one. Would the Sheriff still have to spend as many resources on illegal immigrants now? Obviously not.
The “judge” in question is a female appointed by our illustrious former legal scholar in chief, ex-commander 0bama.
From what I read, the judge in this case is G. Murray Snow. The previous female judge you might be thinking of had to recuse herself from the case.
That would make sense not to let the judge accusing you of contempt outside of the courtroom try the case. But then this all done at the behest of King Putt and his bootlicks.
Sorry for the late reply to this, MSG. I was traveling yesterday and didn’t get a chance to hop online.
You’ve obviously read more about this case than I have, so I have some reading to do – I’ve got zero problems with vigilant enforcement of border patrols and really don’t have strong feelings about the contempt of court charge either. What irks me about Arpaio is the (as you said) reported-but-not-charged stories of unconstitutional treatment of prisoners. Why was there only one charge? I don’t know, honestly. Maybe it’s grandstanding by anti-Arpaio types, maybe it’s because evidence was hard to collect, or maybe it’s just the political impossibilities of going to a jury with which a political battle and needing to get a unanimous decision.
And ultimately, even if it’s about results, I think a more careful analysis needs to be made as to how effective he was. Saying crime rates went down isn’t enough; crime rates went down in a lot of places. And with less scandal. When all is said and done, though, none of that is a crime. It’s a question, at the end of the day, of how people were treated… and I guess I just don’t have enough info on that.
Anyway, thanks. I’ll do some reading.
Joe Arpaio treated criminals like criminals, NO cable TV, NO unnecessary luxuries, pink underwear, sleeping in tents, cheap bologna sandwiches for lunch,… and the cotton candy-headed bleeding heart libs went NUTS! So he took a staunch ant-illegal immigration stance, JUST HOW many illegal aliens did he get there say from Chins, India, Europe or anywhere other than Latin American countries? Profiling, MY ASS.
Profiling = Inductive Police Work
That’s why perps and the families and friends that love them denounce it.
I think, and again I’m not as well read on this issue as some, he treated suspected criminals like criminals. And some times the suspicion was as simple as you look latino and didn’t have proof you were American on you.
I’ve got no problems with not giving convicted criminals TV, cable, etc., but I think we should all have considerable problems with anyone who, without proof other than appearance, sticks people in pretty terrible conditions. Also, anyone who openly brags about ‘concentration camps’ is pretty touched in the head. What’s next? Start talking about a ‘final solution’ to illegal immigration? Zealously doing the job within the constraints of the law is fine… once you go outside those bounds, that’s where the line has to be drawn.
Sounds good LC, I’d enjoy discussing such things, because i believe that you, unlike Der Commissar, can understand that I can overall be a fan of the Sheriff, and support his pardoning, while not agreeing with everything he did, or worshiping him… That being said, I’m sure we still won’t agree on all points in this discussion, and i’m ok with that.
BOOM !!!
At least we know of one #libidiot head that exploded already this morning.
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA !!!!!
Meh, I am on the fence.
This was inconsequential with respect to Arpaio (he is still convicted he just avoids the maximum 6 month sentence and will still likely face state charges).
Overall, this was a win for Trump in shoring up his base, but a loss for his support overall with most Americans.
I would say it is a net win for the political outcomes I care about.
I thought Trump would be a win in the long run for progressives:
Hillary presidency would have caused a huge right wing backlash and moved our country sharply right,
I made the calculated assumption that a Trump presidency would be so dysfunctional and incompetent that not much Trump wanted to do would actually get done but the presidency itself would destroy the credibility of the alt-right wing of the party, fracture the GoP overall, and cause a huge left wing backlash that moved our country sharply left after Trump was removed from office.
All in all things are going as I expected. I do not like the damage he is causing., and I hate that he harmed our relationships in NATO, and jeopardized the future viability of NATO. However, he is getting far less accomplished that I even expected.
Republicans are getting stuff done in spite of him. But no major piece of legislation. Lots of bills are being passed. Most are inconsequential. And Trump has nothing to do with getting any of them passed. He just signs them.
His biggest legacy so far besides destabilizing our alliances and trade agreements, is Gorsuch, and history will credit that to McConnel. Not Trump.
You stupid ass, you don’t know what a PARDON means…?
The here worship for Arpaio on the right is ridiculous. He was convicted of contempt for violating an agreement he made to stop racial profiling US citizens. Let me repeat; UNITED STATES CITIZENS. Any latino in his country was a target of sheriff’s department harassment, police stops on pretext, unlawful detention, and in dozens of cases UNLAWFUL IMPRISONMENT. If a MCSO stopped someone under the suspicion they MIGHT be an illegal immigrant (something a county sherri’s office has no legal authority to do) the person they stopped would have to convince the deputy they were a US citizen. If they couldn’t they would be detained until they could (an unlawful detention), sometimes they would be JAILED until they could. In many cases there were US citizens. All without any authority to enforce FEDERAL immigration laws. Let me repeat that; the anti-immigration campaign was done WITHOUT ANY LEGAL JURISDICTIONAL AUTHORITY. It also cost Maricopa county more than $200 million in lawsuit settlements. He was found by the justice department and the judicial system to have violated the civil rights, constitutional rights, and health and welfare of the citizens of his county. The justice department investigation of the MCSO ruled it to be the “worst case of unconstitutional policing and racial profiling in US history”. But he was a shitbag before that; In 1999 Arpaio and his team created a fake assassination plot to boost his re-election chances. His deputies literally set a guy up to be the patsy in the plot then arrested him and charged him with conspiracy to assassinate Arpaio. In 2003 the head of the MCSO undercover investigations came forward and admitted it was all a scheme to help Arpaio win re-election. The Sheriff’s office settled the lawsuit for setting up the patsy for $1.6M dollars. In 2010 Arpaio abused the power of his office to target members of the Board of Supervisors for criminal investigation. Out of all the members of the board he targeted only one had actually committed a crime. Giving a summer job to his niece, a class 2 misdemeanor. The rest were merely… Read more »
*hero worship.
HEY, EVERYBODY!!!! LOOK WHAT THE PLAGUE-RIDDEN RATS DRAGGED IN FROM THE STREET!!!
Ex, I usually don’t pay attention to what Der Kommisar writes. What did it have to say when Obama commuted the sentence for Manning the Traitor?
That even though her sentence was commuted he still served 7 years and still has to spend the rest of her life as Manning.
After all, she is still a convicted felon with a dishonorable discharge and a gender identity disorder.
Not exactly a win.
That’s a man baby, twigs and berries in place equals man. Idiot.
Right, its okay to get leniency because transgender.
All the while dirtbag liberals are paying Manning’s bills and donating because Manning has had such a rough life!
More leaked documents than pretty much all other spies in US history COMBINED, most of which died in prison. But, seven whole years! OMG!
Obama commutted his sentence because transgender, that’s all. If Bergdahl had claimed transgender or gay or lesbian, he’d have been pardoned as well.
The wannabe-eunuch Bradley Manning is not a “she,” you fucking moron.
No idea. I could not wade through that or this, either, Chief.
When someone claiming some kind of superior education can’t even write in complete sentences, I just shake my head.
You really have a hard time with the existence of cognitive disabilities that effect writing.
Fortunately, both the military and universities are able to look past those issues and evaluate the content instead of getting wrapped up in errors due to dysgraphia.
You, on the other hand, always have a peculiar excuse for your sloppiness and lack of attention to details.
Most of us here, INCLUDING MOI-MEME, admit that we failed to proofread something before we click ‘POST’.
But YOU??? You just make excuse after excuse after excuse and don’t even try to improve.
No, I don’t believe for one second the REAL Army overlooks that kind of sloppiness.
I have said multiple times that I usually do not proofread my posts.
So pretending I didn’t is bullshit.
But most of my errors are due to the dysgraphia which is why I commonly replace words that have similar sounds, associated meanings, or serve similar grammatical purposes.
But this petty habit you have of criticizing my typos and writing mistakes instead of the actual content.
I do not criticize you for the shitty grainy picture of your christmas tree you put up last year. It looked like it had been photographed with a potato.
From the guy who corrected my spelling of Burkulee. Hypocrite.
Touché.
Maybe you could try using Dragonspeech? Or some other voice recognition software? I got dragonspeech years ago to help with college papers for about 20 bucks. Just a thought….
I do, but I only have it on PC (the PC version was issued by the Army after they tested for and verified the dysgraphia).
I bought a Mac version later but the company refused to honor the license because I stupidly did not keep the receipt and apparently the “student” version could only be activated by them sending a code after you sent a copy of a receipt proving you bought it from a Student Bookstore.
It pissed me off that they had such a ridiculous mechanism to unlock the program. I had the box, the disks, the headset, manual, everything. But they refused to give me the license number to unlock the install.
I never log on here from my desktop and I do not use Dragon on my Mac.
I don’t know MSG, a guy on my crew has some dyslexia or similar issues, and as a result, he uses dragonspeech to write his reports, and I gotta tell you, i’d rather he just misspell shit… some of the crap that program comes up with is truly hilarious, but damn it adds work to my day, correcting all the strange stuff it decides to add in..
It’s the Berzerkley BIGOT wearing his IMPOTENT RAGE costume!
THIS is how I picture him:
While Trump did this as part of his effort to shore up the support of his base in the two week both Bannon and Gorka are out of the white house, this pardon severely damages Trump with the rest of the American public.
Even in Arizona less than 30% approve of this pardon.
And it really does not do much to help Arpaio. He is still convicted (a pardon does not remove the conviction). All he gains is that he will not spend time in jail. But the maximum he would have spent is 6 months.
And it will make it almost certain that prosecutors in Arizona that were on the fence about bringing charges related to some of the other nonsense Arpaio was involved in are MUCH more likely to bring those charges. And these will be state charges. Trump does not have the power to pardon Arpaio on state charges.
When it is all done I think Arpaio will find that risking the 6 months (his conviction was still on appeal) would have been better in the long run.
Once again, your screed is TL-DR. You have never passed up the chance to say in 10 words what you think you have to say in 1500. Today confirms that you’re still in that mode.
“say in 1500 words what can be said in 10”. Not enough caffeine.
NOT to mention that he also loves to reply to his own posts!
That was not a reply.
Yeah, there is that, too.
That’s me giving myself advise. I’m a Major in the United States Army Reserve, I give good advice, so I turn to myself. You guys should be thanking me for my thoughtful, well written, insightful commentary.
Oh, yeah, as long as I’m not drilling, I’m not subject to the UCMJ. It’s just when I’m drilling, on annual training, etc. I’d post here during those times, but my 1SG takes my phone away, and prohibits me from using the computer unless it’s completely not connected to the Internet.
My computer is nice, it’s color coded (smile).
Babbles McButthead, what YOU need is for someone who gives more than half a ratshit of a flying fuck (NOT ME!) to dispatch a *WAAAAAHHHH!*mbulance to your current location to give you a peanut butter sandwich, a group hug and some fresh Kool-Aid while everyone sings “Kum-ba-yah”.
“this pardon severely damages Trump with the rest of the American public.”
Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!
https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/will-the-arpaio-pardon-make-trump-more-unpopular/
Or pick your source;
https://www.google.com/search?client=safari&rls=en&q=percentage+that+support+arpaio+pardon&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8
Trumps popularity is boosted daily by the irrational comments and actions of the media and DNC. The media has gotten his powers of persuasion and popularity wrong since he began running.
Unless the platform changes and those involved start focusing on real substantive issues, they’re just assuring Trump will get a second term.
I have never been polled, not once nor has ANYONE I know, not once ever. But we are supposed to trust this shit they spew out. Hillary by a landslide. Shove those polls up your ass Lars.
Do they EVER poll outside of NYC or L.A.?
Not likely since NYC and LA expect everyone else in the country to let them make all the decisions since they’re so much smarter and more successful than anyone else.
and NEVER outside of a liberal communist dumocrap camp!!
Your response indicates you have no idea how polling works, or statistics.
But don’t believe the polls if you like. Your delusion will not change the outcome.
If anything it hurts Trump because he shares you delusional thinking and will continue on this unsustainable course of alienating more and more voters and becoming a larger liability to the GoP.
Though his obstruction is what is going to sink him.
We are not delusional, we see what’s going on. If Trump wipes his ass with his left hand, he hates right handed people. If he wipes with his right hand, he hates left handed people. Now they are going after the way his kid dresses and the shoes his wife wears. If Americans are anything, we want things to be fair. What is happening to and about Trump is not fair.
In Babbles McButthead’s view HE is the ONLY ONE who sees things correctly. You, me and everyone else on TAH are simply mindless Trump-indoctrinated dolts with absolutely NO clue about anything, he’s been brainwashed that far into intellectual oblivion!
“They are going after the way his kid dresses”. Totally off limits and sad, however this pretty much started with Patricia Nixon, followed by horrible things said about Amy Carter, Chelsea Clinton, the Bush twins and through to President Obama’s daughters.
It’s is one of the most repugnant things adults do to the children of presidents and I want to bash the face of any dipshit who runs down a kid because you don’t happen to agree with their president father’s politics.
You don’t have to like the man, and you don’t have to like his politics, but leave his damn family out of it.
Well said W2, unless they are old enough, and actually involved in politics, kids, and even spouses should be left alone
You notice big mouth obozo said his kids (which WERE NOT his kids) were off limits to the media. too bad the dirty s.o.b.’s don’t give Pres Trump the same respect!!
desert does your brain just pump bullshit 24/7 or do you take a day off?
The general consensus here is that going after someone’s kids is beyond the pale. I agree with that position.
So, when you say something like “were not his kids”, you are engaging in truly despicable and highly dysfunctional shit-talk that does nothing to add credibility to anything discusssed or advocated here.
Whatever I may think of Obama, he is raising those kids, which is more “father” than a whole lot of folks ever get. I cannot possibly care one whit less if they were produced in the usual manner, adopted, or dropped off his porch from Alpha Centauri.
In other words, get your pointy head out of your ass, and leave folks kids out of it.
Here, here!
desert, it’s obvious you don’t like President Obama, and you don’t like his politics, which is fine. Then, of course, you had to drag his kids back into it, which is not fine and proves my point. Regardless of which side is doing it, it’s just wrong and as long as dumbass dickweeds like you lap it up and then vomit it back up on queue these assholes will continue to go after the kids. You’re part of the problem and can go piss up a stiff rope, asshat.
They did a Friday afternoon news dump, during a major hurricane. Just the same as other administrations do often, with or without the hurricane.
As far as state charges, good deal. Liberals have been talking about “charges” for Arpaio since about 5 minutes after he swore in as Sheriff of Maricopa county.
I don’t think President Trump did it to shore up his base. His base is solidly behind him.
I think he did it because it was the right thing to do.
I read Breitbart and his base is fractured after the Bannon departure.
And that is his alt-right. His more mainstream right wing republican base was fractured last week.
His polling numbers are terrible. Worst in history right now.
And worse, his “strongly approve” numbers are way down. Which is a sign of losing his base.
I seem to recall that “polling” had Clinton as the shoo-in candidate.
Stop inerjecting facts into any conversation with Commissar, that’s taking unfair advantage of someone who doesn’t know what facts are.
Sigh, “interjecting”, not “inerjecting”.
Amen!
I was almost out of liberal tears for my coffee maker. Now I have a swimming pool full of it. Thanks Trump!
Eeeew, you drink liberal tears? Eeeeeewwwww!
“It’s just Trump being the anti-Obama.”
And it’s President Trump’s being the Anti-Obama that will ensure his reelection in 2020!
You are about to have a very sad new year.
You have no idea what is coming with respect to the future of the Trump presidency.
When Pence set up his OWN re-election infrastructure and political action committee and said it was to help the “president” get re-elected, he was telling the truth. It is to help the president get re-elected. But he is not talking about Trump.
Wouldn’t being re-elected first mean that one had been elected?
How many Presidents are in this country?
Not a bright post on your part.
When a vice president assumes the presidency and then wins another term they are regarded as being “re-elected.”
This is because he was already “elected” the first time as part of a ticket when he became the vice-president.
Uh, no.
Just no.
Ford was not “re-elected” in his first full term. Her was elected. Truman did not defeat Dewey to be “re-elected,” he defeated him and was elected. The same thing goes with Johnson after the death of Lincoln.
Pence was not elected to the presidency hence he cannot be “re-elected” to the presidency.
Once again, this is just a really stupid post on your part.
I am talking about Pence running for “reelection” in 2020. After he assumes office when Trump steps down.
In that care it would be a re-election campaign.
Ford was never reelected.
*in that case
Gerald Ford was never elected PERIOD, he was appointed VPOTUS by Nixon after Agnew’s departure and assumed the Presidency following Nixon’s resignation and was defeated by Jimmeh Kahtuh.
“Not a bright post on your part”. Well, to be fair, that is what Commissar does best.
Kinda like on the show “Little House on the Prairie” when Mama Olsen would look down her nose and “Hmmmppf!” someone, I bet Babbles McButthead does the same thing!
HEY Pinky-puff, WHAT ABOUT your candidate who not only espoused but heartily praised the socialism in Venezuela that has the vast majority of its population scavenging garbage for bits of food? Let’s ALSO not forget about how he went off on those who own multiple abodes while he got a sweetheart deal on his THIRD house on a choice waterfront location!
TRUMP/PENCE 2020, it’ll happen again, just remember how Ronald Reagan the Great Trumped Mondale in THE biggest Presidential Election landslide in 1984, I still remember the mega-butthurt in reporters’ eyes and on their faces! 😀 😀 😀
Why do you constantly reply with “what about-isms”?
Besides a rambling string of incoherent name calling you pretty much only respond to an issue with a “what about” concerning some other unrelated issue as though one justified the other.
Are you incapable of discussing an issue on its own merits?
Does your opinion of Bernie Sanders change anything at all about the viability of the Trump presidency?
I actually felt sorry for Geraldine Ferraro for being the VP Candidate on that one. I was fairly young, but damn its gotta suck to be the VP for such a massive loss.
My Grandmother did say during that time that “we’ll have a black president before we have a woman president” and damn if she wasn’t right. Though as much of a pussy as Barack was at times, you’d think he was a woman.
Err Msg…we unfortunately got both in one pathetic package!
Oh, lookie, lookie, lookie! Someone who is NOT an insider thinks he has inside info and an inside line to what’s going on in the White House!
That’s just ducky, isn’t it?
Especially coming from a clown that was BALLS DEEP FOR BERNIE… the guy who sold his soul to Cankles McPantsuit and has a few ethics problems with his wife.
Commissar DOESN’T KNOW JACK SHIT!
Please, stop using my full name in your posts. It very trollish and childish behavior for a 51 year old.
Also, what the weather like in Moore? Any of the storm effecting you that far north?
You’ve ID’d the wrong person, Commissar….
Considering that he took an oath to serve and defend the USA when he joined the Army, and that, according to him, he’s retired from some part of it (Reserves? Whatever!), doesn’t it almost seem as though he’s become a TURNCOAT?
Or is that just my overactive imagination at work again?
How am I a turncoat?
And why were you not making that accusation during the relentless criticism of Obama on this board during his administration.
You are full of shit as usual EX-PH2 go clean the lenses on your potato.
Cankles McPantsuit. Now that’s funny.
I will bet you $1000 that Trump does not stay in office until 2020.
It will be a thrownroom soon and note an office.
You’re on….you make a $1000 contribution to TAH. If Trump doesn’t serve out his term I’ll make that $1000 donation.
Agreed?
Agreed. Excellent plan.
Of course I kind of like you so I will feel a little less happy about winning.
I’m just thinking either way TAH gets $1000. 🙂
But just to be fair. If he is assassinated I will let you out of the bet.
Does not seem fair for some random nutcase to decide this outcome.
The only nutcase that should be able to determine this outcome is Trump, his own actions, and the political consequences.
I’m willing to take it without caveats including acts of God, medical crises or nutcases. He isn’t going anywhere.
Wow, bold. I am sure Jonn will be happy to know he wins regardless of what happens.
Ok. It’s a bet.
Yeah, that’s the point really. I don’t want a situation in which TAH has a chance of losing out.
Oh, I get it now. COMMISSAR Commissar AKA POODLEDICK THE PIUPERDINK is telling us that he knows there is a plot underway to assassinate the sitting, duly-elected President of these United States.
Well, that says right there that it is his duty, as a former member of the US military to report this looming plot to the proper authorities, for the purpose of preventing such a thing. By not doing so, he’s engaging in treasonous behavior.
After all, if Marina Oswald had simply reported Lee Harvey Oswald’s intentions to the authorities, Jack Kennedy might have had a second term and maybe there wouldn’t have been an escalation of the advisers in Vietnam to an undeclared war in Vietnam.
But obviously, doing his duty as a citizen of these United States, by reporting a suspected plot to the proper authorities isn’t nearly as important to DIE COMMISSAR as it is to make an utter ass of himself by hinting at the plotting of some nefarious scheme.
So, maybe I’ll just go call the FBI or somebody and report this alluded plot, so that the DoJ can pay a visit to said commissar.
Does that work for the rest of you?
You would be turning you lack of reading comprehension into a waste of public funds.
I know of no plot to assassinate the president.
I would report it if I did.
I do know that the Mueller investigation has started doing things that is only done when there is fire rather than smoke.
Additionally, this investigation into Trump has not only Trump himself as the subject but everyone in the campaign and the white house.
As these lower level staffers start getting subpoenaed Trump will not be able to resist the temptation to discuss it with them.
The moment he does he commits witness tampering.
You keep wanting to call the government and report people for saying stuff you do not like.
That is not the first time you made the implication that you did or you would.
Since I said nothing to indicate I know of a plot and you were just spinning things to use the threat of a government stick against me it says a lot about your true political leanings.
You are as big government as they come. No wonder you voted for Hillary.
Oh? Denial is a mental illness, you know. Here we go:
Commissar says:
August 26, 2017 at 10:29 am
You are about to have a very sad new year.
You have no idea what is coming with respect to the future of the Trump presidency.
And here, as well:
Commissar says:
August 26, 2017 at 2:11 pm
But just to be fair. If he is assassinated I will let you out of the bet.
So you are either suffering short-term memory less – not a good sign but you do it all the time – or you are associating with people who are involved in this kind of thing.
And for your information, you ignorant ass, digital images are not grainy. They consiste of pixels, not silver halides. I guess it didn’t occur to you, when you tried to enlarge my Christmas photo – which is MY PERSONAL PROPERTY, you moron – that I had derezzed the image so that any enlargement would result in the worst pixelation possible for anyone, INCLUDING YOU, you incredible moron, who copied it to your hard drive without my permission. Still think I don’t know my business, when you don’t even know how to mind your own?
Go ahead, amoeba brain. Make my day.
If I were a Psychology Grad Student, I would make Babbles McButthead the CHIEF subject of my Masters Thesis that LIBERALISM IS A MENTAL DISORDER.
Oh, yeah – I did NOT vote for that ignorant, incompetent, wobbling, greedy old sow Hillary Clinton, COMMISSAR Commissar, you mordant idiot.
I have better sense than that. If you’re really that stupid, you deserve all the bitchslapping you’ve been getting.
Apparently you do not know how the internet works.
EVERY SINGL PERSON THAT VIEWED THAT IMAGE COPIED ONTO THEIR COMPUTER.
When you look at something on the internet you literally download it onto your drive through the act of looking at it.
That is not the same thing as SAVING it onto the drive.
And nobody needs your damn permission you nitwit. It is not a copyrighted image.
Incorrect, as always.
At the bottm of the TAH frame is this:
This ain’t Hell, but you can see it from here
© 2017 All rights reserved
If it’s here, it’s copyrighted, you imbecile.
You really are aussi bien stupide you don’t even know you’re alive.
You moron. That protects the website as a work. My clicking on the image ON HIS WEBSITE so I can see the image more clearly (a function of the website itself) is FAIR USE.
Hell even if I kept the image on my drive it would still be FAIR USE because he made the image (or you made the image) available to people to view and to view it REQUIRES it be downloaded onto the computer viewing it.
If I shared the image with others or used it on my own website I would be violating fair use but not simply looking at it closer.
You dolt.
And you propensity to try to pull this bullshit to constantly try to intimidate me is obnoxious and shows how vile you are as a person.
Hell you literally threatening to SWAT me with the FBI for a comment you know damn well is not a threat to the president or knowledge of one.
But that is the kind of person you are. One of the most vile and reprehensible pieces of scum I have ever crossed past with on the internet.
But that is why you will die alone with your cats.
And just to be clear; I am talking about old age. Just so you do not use that comment as another excuse to try to SWAT me.
Typical “conservative” constantly threatening to use the government to go after people that say things you don’t like.
Pathetic.
Remember he has a bunch of Antifa pals. Although, if he is teaching them how to shoot, I think their target it safe.
Let him. They are so corrupt and so volatile, they are as likely to turn on him as not.
I’m not a former member of the U.S. Military. I’m in the U.S. Army Reserve. I’m Major Commissar, known in these parts as “Commissar”.
When I demand that people stop using my full name, I conveniently forget the fact that for a while, I used my first and last name as my name on this board. I tried to switch away from that, as I didn’t want my full name, Commissar, become google famous. Especially now that I’m known as a Major in the U.S. Army Reserve.
I can’t have the other Soldiers in my unit associate my true rantings on this board with me during drill. Worse, when I’m up for promotion, I can’t risk letting the Army know what my true thoughts, my true self, are. So, when you use my full name, you put me in a situation where I could suffer from the consequences of my actions.
Posts like yours violate Jonn’s term of service.
But he won’t do anything about them.
You have nothing substantive to say and post these kinds of posts just to troll and try to stir up shit.
Who died and made you God, Taylor?
Who are YOU to determine what is and is not appropriate to post here?
Is this your blog? I don’t think so.
If you want to control the content, start your own blog.
Remember, Jonn is moderating his comments because of some statements made last weekend. And, he has tried to ID me and a few others here (with no success).
Little bit of hypocrisy in his statement
Not hypocrisy.
I am being moderated for something NOT in Jonn’s FAQ. John just does not like this site being referred to as an “alt-right” site.
And posting people’s names in your posts while hiding behind anonymity is absolutely being hypocritical.
I stupidly thought this was a website of veterans, which until I met you guys I thought was an honorable segment of our population.
So I posted using my real name so that it would be clear that my disagreements with the politics presented on this forum was GENUINE and I was not merely trolling.
I have regretted ever since. I learned a huge lesson; just because most of the veterans I served with are honorable it does not mean MOST VETERANS are honorable.
And even if most are, shitbags find each other.
And there are several absolute coward shitbag little trolls that have found community with each other on this site.
It is getting to the point where I have people threatening to SWAT me which is the ultimate troll thing to do.
And the guy posting as “Commissar’s Narcissism” is ONLY a troll and he violates Jonn’s own FAQ concerning comments that would be moderated.
Here is an example:
“Commissar’s Narcissism says:
May 29, 2016 at 8:17 pm
I love to eat butt. It gives me the motivation for an ear to ear shit eating grin, the material to talk crap on this site, and to cause people to call BS on what I say.”
Commissar’s Narcissism says:
July 1, 2017 at 7:27 pm
Let me clarify. I am busy this weekend because I am eating butt in order to come up with enough crap to reply to you guys here. Mmmmmm Ass!
“I mean, that one time I ran into Bill O’Reilly. He kept saying, “Baloney Mr. Taylor!” each time I tried to impress him with my superior education. “
Quitchur whinin’.
Commissar spent months posting every comment he made as “Commissar,” then he trimmed it down to “L. Taylor.” Then he decided he didn’t want people calling him by the same name he’d advertised from day one and cried foul. Now he insists that he’s not a hypocrite (or a communist, but that’s another story…).
I was using Jonn’s FAQ as a reference.
I won’t take that bet, because Jesus is coming soon to rapture his people, and Trump is ONE OF THE PEOPLE….so it would be a foolish bet to make…but then people like you make foolish bets agains the greatest country this world has ever known haven’t you?
I do believe the He said that only His Father would know the hour, correct?
Thus one cannot infer “soon” from anything in scripture. Otherwise, He misspoke.
When it is time, we will all find out. Until then, we must live out the whole fullness of time.
And act accordingly.
Betting on a rapture that takes Trump with it is taking my side of the bet.
So when you say “people like you make foolish bets agains the greatest country this world has ever known” you are talking about IDC SARC.
Which is odd. Because I do not think he is betting against this country.
And neither am I. I am betting our political process actually works and the branches function as they are supposed to; including the Legislative and Judicial branches which are INTENDED to be a check on the executive.
ICD SARC and I entered into a gentlemen’s bet about the future of the Trump presidency.
A bet that benefits this website no matter who wins.
And the bet is over a reasonable political topic that is being discussed on BOTH SIDES OF THE AISLE and in major political media sources; on both sides of the aisle; even Breitbart has articles on the topic.
Hell, even the LEADER OF CONGRESS, Senator Mitch McConnell questioned the potential for Trump’s administration to last.
As have several former and current members of congress and SEVERAL RETIRED GENERALS.
But instead of respecting the right for me to hold the opinion that Trump’s administration is not likely to last its full term, several of you trolling shitbags turned it into an opportunity to threaten me, troll me, and just act like a bunch of assholes.
John gets upset if I call the forum “alt-right”.
And he is correct. you are not like the alt-right community at all.
I spend a decent amount of time reading Breitbart and discussing things with the community of readers. And while I disagree with pretty much all of their positions even the Breitbart community is no where near as toxic, petty, and outright trollishly childish as several members of this board.
I can actually have SUBSTANTIVE conversations about both politics and economics with Breitbart readers.
The readership is clearly better informed, educated, and political aware than some of the regulars that for some inexplicable reason SEEK out my posts to comment and troll without ever having ANYTHING substantive to say.
Usually derailing any conversation that is actually happening.
Even one where I am willing to put money into this website.
How many of you that regularly tell me to “leave” have ever contributed to $ to this site?
Yawnnnnnn.
Like Jonn Lilyea said ‘Quitchur whinin’.
I have a feeling we’ll be reading (or not reading, TL,DR after all) this bullshit from Lars for the next 7 years. and 8 years after that. And another 8 years after that. and so on and so forth.
Liberals are living proof that LIBERALISM IS A MENTAL DISORDER via their words and deeds, people like Lars aka Babbles McButthead prove it!
certainly the ones in the highest levels of power are moonbats….time for real liberals to take control or continue to sink with their ship.
As for me, I’m enjoying some popcorn and Nachos with Bacon while I enjoy watching it sink!
I doubt it.
People like you have been dead wrong about the President since he announced his campaign. Doubt all you want. You’ll still be wrong.
I said I doubt I will be here for 8 years.
Donald J. Trump IS STILL the President of the United States.
Bernie Sanders IS STILL a has-been washed-up shit-for-brained socialist who has never held a job other than politician and has betrayed what he said he stood for.
He’s also STILL a NAZI.
“He’s also STILL a NAZI.”
How so?
Your definition of Nazi….and how Trump satisfies it, would be interesting to read.
Unleashing the power of the caps lock, while impressive, fails to actually explain your assertion.
He loves socialism, just like NAZIs (caps to denote an acronym, apologies if they frighten you).
We’re both talking about Bernie Sanders right?
nah…I asked how Trump satisfies your definition. If you meant Sanders…I see what you’re saying but don’t agree Sanders was a Nazi in the sense of bringing the 4th Reich.
The caps lock… aww… yeah…I pee myself when you do that…it’s really really intimidating.
What acronym is STILL?…I don’t see an explanation on google.
NAZI is an acronym, now go change your urine soaked shorts.
I know NAZI is an acronym…you also capitalized STILL….and said it was an acronym…so it wasn’t and you were being a meanie pants with your mean old caps lock. Some of us aren’t grizzled old veterans like you and need you to be cognizant of our vulnerabilities.
*snifflez*
I see that Babbles McButthead aka Commissar still has Trump Acceptance resistance Disorder (TARD) to the point where it makes him a Trump Acceptance Resistance Disorder Operative (TARDO).
Like many things, the Arpaio legacy is complex.
Should he have been pardoned? Eventually yes, as high profile law enforcement officers have a tendency not to do well in prison for any number of reasons.
But as much as people want to support Arpaio for his stance on immigration (whether that stance and opposition to that stance is more political than anything) and his “tent cities” and “bologna sandwiches” for inmates in order to make prison tough and something you don’t want to go visit, we all need to remember other things that Arpaio did.
He investigated the wife of the judge who signed the order telling him to stop immigration arrests. Her crime? She criticized him.
He ordered a pre-dawn raid on journalists that were critical of him. That stunt cost the citizens a cool $3.8 million.
His office lost military gear that was given to them by the Feds. Gone. Poof. See ya.
He was part of a bribery case where he and his sidekick (and later disbarred) Maricopa County Attorney Andrew Thomas) charged a judge and the Maricopa County Board of Supervisors with bribery and RICO violations for building a new courthouse.
When Thomas went on trial, Arpaio wouldn’t answer questions saying he “couldn’t remember” even though he held press conferences on the events in question.
And frankly, don’t even get me started on the ill-fated and ridiculous “investigation” on the Obama birth certificate.
To me, it almost seems that Arpaio got addicted to the spotlight. Even removing the immigration issue and his disregard for the law in that case, it almost seems that in order to make headlines he continued to disregard the law and civil liberties of those who opposed or criticized him.
As I said, he probably shouldn’t go to prison (although the pardon is far too early in the process as he was not yet sentenced) but at the same time, Arpaio set himself up as being above the law in many instances.
I agree 100 percent ^^^^^
And what you have stated is only the tip of the iceberg over the years there have been other accusations to that at the time seemed far-fached
But were probably true
We’ll see what happens. Arpaio is definitely a polarizing figure in politics.
Careful, they might assume you are a libtard. In their minds the only people that are not in love with big government Arpaio is liberals.
“In their minds the only people that are not in love with big government Arpaio is liberals”. Let me guess, you got booted from law enforcement and the Army because you couldn’t write a coherent report, right? Because it’s obvious that you can’t write anything that’s coherent.
A few of his other greatest hits:
– Arpaio volunteered his deputies to participate in ATF’s Project LEAD — the surreptitious registration of guns during routine citizen contacts. Joe had a change of heart when his plans were exposed by an ACTUAL patriot, Sheriff Richard Mack.
– Arpaio hired a guy to pretend he was going to assassinate him, in order to increase public support in an election year.
– He teamed up with Steven Segall to help the latter with a reality TV show he starred in. Segall and MCSO performed a dynamic entry (SWAT) raid on the home of a man suspected of raising chickens for cockfighting. Segall — who plowed the suspect’s cinder block wall down with MCSO’s “tank” / Bearcat / APC / whateverthell Joe called it — justified the show of force, saying, “Animal cruelty is one of my pet peeves.” The suspect was not suspected of being armed or dangerous, and did not resist arrest. His 130+ chickens, however, were killed on the spot.
now i say appoint the Sheriff to the head of the FBI or NSA… That would put a quiver in snowflakes everywhere 🙂
Problem is, he’d be waiting on the Senate to confirm him until about 2035 at the rate they are going.
I recall when the Democrats had power of all three in 2008-2010 they were blaming the republicans for “filibustering” and keeping anything from happening.
Yet, by this point in his administration, Obama had 90% of his confirmation-requiring positions filled. But this time it isn’t the democrat’s fault for sitting on their hands, not attending confirmation hearings, holding up the selection process, its still all the Republicans’ fault. Go figure.
Doesn’t matter, it’s all Trump’s fault. Everything is Trump’s fault. (And on the other hand, seems many folks forget that the only folks who hate Trump more than the Democrats are the senior Republicans. If Trump turned out to be the second coming of Christ, McCain would bitch about him.)
Not only no, hell no.
We conservatives yelled and screamed about persecutions and prosecutions of people who criticized Obama. To support someone like Arpaio who has done the same to people in the past would be hypocrisy on our part.
The man’s 85 years old. I think his pardon was to put a thumb in the eye of the liberal judge and to keep a career law enforcement officer of advanced age out of the hands of inmates and allow him to retire.
I know Arpaio probably enjoyed the notoriety, but I doubt the administration is planning to place him in any high profile position.
I could be wrong of course.
He is pretty toxic, but Trump is running out of people willing to serve in his administration.
I know Kelly won’t want him in the white house.
Wow, is there anything you Berzerkeley progs don’t know?
NOPE! you tell them that water is wet, fire is hot, SHIT STINKS and they’ll STILL argue every bit of what you say.
Shitting in a bucket is Lars specialty. He taught his occupy friends how to do it without getting their left hand too covered in shit.
Let’s see if this makes sense to anyone else:
The left objects when a sheriff arrests folks without regard for their legal status, lineage, or anything else except the fact that it appears that they broke the law. Later, following additional laws triggering federal standards for detention of illegal aliens, the same sheriff asks for proof of citizenship.
Are these the same people who insist that data about your lineage and mine be collected for pretty much every transaction we have with anybody? Really? And we are supposed to be the ones who care about the ethnicity of folks with whom we deal in our daily lives?
No, it doesn’t make sense, but then, they are a bunch of bigots in denial of how truly bigoted they are. They ignore their own racism while accusing those of us who just don’t care about the race of others of being what they clearly are. Hypocrites. And Racists.
That is one of the basic tactics of the Alinsky-ites: Accuse your political opponents of the questionable actions that your own ilk actually are guilty of.
I guess it was okay for Der/monarch obama to pardon the terrorist who was involved in the Frauncis tavern explosion and other attacks back in the 70’s, and I had to constantly watch my butt with my co-workers when I was working for Brink’s at the time. Arpaio never killed anyone like the above asshole did. I guess if Arpaio was a dem., the charges would have been overlooked.
I see dem. sen. mcain is blasting Pres Trump on the Arpaio pardon. Well what can be expected from the obama/republican shadow government in exile slow moving coup to try and remove the Pres. from office.
I am trying to wade through all of the above. All I can say is you should count yourselves lucky you don’t have the Weatfield Wanderer running the country. She’s a real tosser.
Commissar,… *PTUI*
Trump’s pardon of Arpaio was him just doing a solid for a friend. But it would have been better had he waited until after sentencing and the appeals process to run its course, and for Arpaio to do like other criminals do and formally apply for clemency.
Not to do so actually exposes Arpaio to other trouble. Not everybody in the justice department loves him, and it may be that he’s about to be brought up on a raft of charges for other things.
How long do you reckon Joe would have lasted behind bars???? …. Before he started choking on Jesus and Pepe’s chorizo?
Well, Trump and Arpaio are both egotistical blowhard reactionaries, so …
Arpaio would either co-operate with or ignore the Feds, whatever suited him personally.
He co-operated with ATF and EPA, against the angry complaints of his own constituents, when they showed up in New River, AZ in 1997 and began burning allegedly “dangerous” and “volatile” chemicals right there in the community:
“When the people of New River learned just what the government had in mind to protect them from Byers’ chemicals, they were outraged. And their anger wasn’t calmed when they learned they would have to evacuate their homes within a week.
“On Saturday, Oct. 11, sheriff deputies handed out flyers to some — not all — of the residents ordering evacuation the following weekend of humans and animals within a three-mile radius of the ranch.
“Several hundred New River residents packed the school cafeteria on Oct. 14, to listen to EPA and ATF officials make their pitch for the planned incineration and evacuation. The residents were not impressed.
“‘Just leave and have fun,’ Sheriff Joe Arpaio told the stone-faced audience. To make up for any inconvenience he promised to provide ice cream, soft drinks, and clowns at the middle school on evacuation day. When outspoken residents said they wouldn’t leave and ‘no one is going to make us,’ Arpaio said he would call on his deputies — and his 3,000 member ‘civilian posse’ if necessary — to remove New River insurgents from their homes by force.
“Arpaio, deemed one of the most popular sheriffs in the United States, was booed from the podium.”
http://www.wnd.com/1999/03/3617/