Russian surveillance aircraft over DC

| August 10, 2017

Stars & Stripes reports that a Russian Air Force Tupolev Tu-154 surveillance aircraft flew over the nation’s capitol yesterday;

The Russian Air Force Tupolev Tu-154 aircraft made the flight through the Treaty on Open Skies, which Russia, the United States and 32 other nations have signed. The treaty established criteria under which countries can make unarmed observation flights over the soil of other treaty members in an effort to promote transparency and international arms control efforts, according to the State Department.

The Capitol Police issued an alert Wednesday that warned that an “authorized low-altitude aircraft” would enter restricted airspace between 11 a.m. and 3 p.m. The alert did not state who owned the plane, but said it “will be large and may fly directly over the U.S. Capitol.”

“This flight will be monitored by U.S. Capitol Police and other federal government agencies,” the alert concluded.

According to the State Department;

The Treaty on Open Skies establishes a regime of unarmed aerial observation flights over the territories of its signatories. The Treaty is designed to enhance mutual understanding and confidence by giving all participants, regardless of size, a direct role in gathering information through aerial imaging on military forces and activities of concern to them. Open Skies is one of the most wide-ranging international arms control efforts to date to promote openness and transparency in military forces and activities.

According to Wiki, the treaty was signed by GHW Bush in 1989 and took effect in 2002. Wiki also says that the Russians have been restricting overflights of their own country since last year.

From the Washington Post;

But Marine Lt. Gen. Vincent Stewart, director of the Defense Intelligence Agency, has argued that Russia may be taking advantage of the treaty. He told the House Armed Services Committee subcommittee on emerging threats and capabilities last year that he would “love” to deny future Russian flights over the United States through Open Skies.

“The things that you can see, the amount of data you can collect, the things you can do with post-processing, allows Russia, in my opinion, to get incredible foundational intelligence on critical infrastructure, bases, ports, all of our facilities,” Stewart said in March 2016. “So from my perspective, it gives them a significant advantage.”

Thanks to Chief Tango for the tips.

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David

Seems to me that if a country is denying overflights they have abrogated the treaty and no reciprocal action should be needed – or allowed.

ChipNASA

Shoot it down and blame it on North Korea.

26Limabeans

I don’t think you will have to.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tupolev_Tu-154#Incidents_and_accidents

Not a very good record.

RCAF_CHAIRBORNE

Blame Canada! Blame Canada!

David Dunlap

You think those assholes wouldn’t shoot down any plane over their area? The HAVE AND WILL CONTINUE TO!!

Ex-PH2

If the Russians are restricting flyovers now, but engaging in it in foreign air space, then they aren’t keeping their part of the bargain.

Send that bear this way. I’ll get pictures to post.

Luddite4change

That’s somewhat cherry picking his comments. The Russians made the decision to upgrade the cameras on their aircraft to more modern (treaty permissible) digital equipment, while we haven’t made that investment. I’m not sure its the Russians you should be complaining about at that point.

David

Suspect the subject of restricting overflights is pretty much unrelated to whether someone is using digital or emulsion film equipment.

luddite4change

We get allot more out of Open Skies than we lose. When the treaty was signed in 1989, it included all the NATO nations, Warsaw Pact, and neutral Sweden and Finland. Now, almost all of the Warsaw Pact nations are NATO members, and all their flights are directed against the Russian Federation.

11B-Mailclerk

Back in the eighties, a kid in a Cessna humiliated the entire Soviet Air Defense system by flying undetected from the Federal Republic of Germany to Moscow’s Red Square, where he landed within sight of the Kremlin.

Oops.

I propose we occasionally conduct our treaty overflights in such aircraft. They can carry useful camera loads, and the “troll” value is significant.

David

Matthias Rust, wasn’t it?

11B-Mailclerk

I believe it was.

-Epic- fail. The towering Red giant turned out to be … hugely inept.

commissar

Apparently the guy is a bit of a nutcase.

According to Wiki he was convicted of attempted manslaughter a few years later when he stabbed a woman who rejected him.

But apparently his flight allowed Gorbachev to dismiss several top generals in the Soviet Union. Hardliners that had opposed Gorbachev’s reforms.

So the kid apparently facilitated the collapse of the Soviet Union.

The Other Whitey

Good for me but not for thee, eh, Vlad? If the Russians try this again without reciprocating the courtesy, shoot it down.

Jeff LPH 3, 63-66

I guess every one out there remembers when IKE was in office and the Air Force fighter jets were scrambled to go after that UFO that suddenly popped up over the White House.

26Limabeans

“Klaatu Berada Nikto”

11B-Mailclerk

“Barada”

“Klaatu barada nikto”

….

…Oh shit! You’ve unleashed the Army of Darkness!

Where’s my chainsaw? Someone call Ash!

Reaperman

…So what did they paint on the bottom?

Slick Goodlin

When I was going through the U.S. Army’s Image Interpreter Course we studied lots of photos of equipment in Eastern Bloc motor pools, many with personnel on the ground looking up at the camera. When we asked how the photos were obtained we were told, ”Let’s just say a diplomatic flight with cameras in the belly stretched out a long landing pattern.”

Twas ever thus and ever thus shall be.

BigJohn

Twas ever thus and ever thus shall be.
Shakespeare??

Skidmark

It would’ve been awesome if they dropped 33,000 printed off emails from the aircraft whilst over the Capitol.

Green Thumb

I wonder if they were checking out that crack rock over on Branch Avenue?