Americans support travel ban (if you don’t mention Trump)
Politico conducted a poll on the travel ban that went into effect last week and it turns out that 60% of the people polled support the ban. This poll conflicts with the results of similar polls, but they didn’t mention President Trump when communicating with respondents;
The POLITICO/Morning Consult question doesn’t mention Trump, nor does it refer to the president’s executive orders on immigration. That contrasts with other polls, which mostly show greater opposition to the policy. An Associated Press-NORC Center poll last month showed a 57 percent majority of Americans thought courts were acting rightly in blocking the travel ban. That was conducted before the Supreme Court’s per curiam decision last week to let some elements of the ban go into effect while the high court waits to hear the case in the fall.
That sort of supports what I’ve been saying for months – Trump has a great set of policies, folks just don’t like him. If folks would look past him and look what he’s doing, they’d realize what a good president he is, in spite of his public persona.
For example, when the news was about a .gif last week, he was telling America how he was going to make us an energy exporter and develop our natural resources, putting Americans back to work and kickstarting a traditionally American-dominated industry that has been neglected the last few decades, making us less energy-dependent on a tumultuous region of the world and less likely to invest our blood and treasure there as a result. A great plan, but no one noticed because of the .gif.
Yesterday, Trump Tweeted how trade between China and North Korea has grown 40% this year while China was supposed to be punishing North Korea for their nuclear weapons programs. Nikki Haley told the UN Security Council that if they didn’t do something about North Korea we’d be forced to act unilaterally. That’s a policy that conservatives have been demanding for years.
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If a good message is delivered by an undisciplined, unlikable messenger, it runs a greater than average chance of getting obscured or distorted along the way. If Trump would spend more time governing and less time airing personal grievances, the good stuff might reach a wider audience.
Nikki Haley is awesome, by the way. I count her appointment (along with those of Mattis and Gorsuch) as among the best things Trump has done thus far.
When the public focuses on the messenger rather than the message, it deserves the lion’s share of the blame for bad outcomes.
Besides, the “disciplined,” “likeable” messengers…#1, mostly bought into the narrative that they couldn’t dare talk about restricting immigration at all, and #2, didn’t have a prayer of making it into office.
I’d agree with you, except for Ted Cruz, who did have a chance. I don’t think Cruz is any more likable than Trump, but I do think he has the discipline to stay on message and avoid most of Trump’s self-inflicted wounds – and he’d be a much more effective leader as a result.
Easy to say, Hondo, but you’d have to undo human nature to make it otherwise. It sounds like you expect the public to be more rational and focused than the President.
I think that’s part of it, but I think the other part is it’s never just about the message, it’s about how you achieve it, and here the Trump administration typically falls short.
Take health care reform, for example – if you say Trump’s message is “We need to reform healthcare!”, well, shit.. virtually everyone agrees. As soon as you get into specifics – like repeal, then replace Obamacare – the polling drops off considerably. Saying, “Let’s have an energy independent USA!” is fantastic … but when you then claim it’s going happen via coal mining, people roll their eyes.
A travel ‘ban’ on dangerous sorts is a good idea. Implementing it in such a way (in the original roll-out) that an Iraqi General who is fighting against ISIS with us suddenly couldn’t come to the US to meet with people at the Pentagon is just idiocy of the highest degree. Some of the initial problems with the travel ban have been addressed (not all, but some), but just like the name ObamaCare, it still leaves a bad taste in some peoples’ mouths.
It’s not the message, it’s the details. That, and the messenger, for better or worse.
@MrBill
Think about what this “tweeting” is doing to the press. Less than 3 min. of effort to DISTRACT the MSM for a full day or more.
While they are having fits, nothing else he is doing gets attention. ( look –> squirrel )
Think about the Bush years. Dignified and didn’t hit back. Low approval ratings and got screwed by the Liberals at every turn.
Notice the difference between the two?
I’d say it was a brilliant strategy if he was getting all kinds of great things done while people were looking the other way, but I haven’t seen much evidence of it. Yes, he’s finally got the travel restrictions in place after a prolonged struggle, but distractions had nothing to do with making that happen; that subject has been extensively covered by the media, in spite of all the tweeting. But as to his other big promises? Border wall? Nope. Healthcare reform? Nope. Tax reform? Nope. Renegotiate better terms for NAFTA? Nope.
Difference between Trump and Bush? Yes, one was dignified and the other isn’t. I don’t see Trump’s approval rating going through the roof. And as far as accomplishments, it’s still early, so I’m willing to give Trump the benefit of the doubt. I hope he does deliver and that the country prospers as a result.
Trump is laughing up his sleeve at the spoiled snots in the media while he’s busy doing his job. Until HE brought that silly .gif to everyone’s attention, it was ignored.
I believe it was posted back in June. Why wasn’t it a dustup until now? Simple: while he’s busy focused on doing his job, someone is searching for stuff like that to distract the lamebrained MSM with “SQUIRREL!!” (as assemblerhead says above).
I think P.T. Barnum has been invoked, but good.
Hey, I ran into a guy wearing a cassock and a pot hat at WalMart yesterday. I asked if he was Amish, told him I was kidding, and he grinned and said “No, I am Serbian Orthodox.” Cool guy, too. Told me how many different Orthodox sects there are, thinks America is a great place to be.
I didn’t ask him what he thinks of Trump. He was just glad to be here.
Here we go:
Didn’t Barry & Bush 43 enact similar if not more restrictive travel bans during their terms? I wonder what changed?
I heard this on NPR this morning and was not surprised in the least. I noted the smug smile of the reader as he realized he’d been had.
It’s sucks to be made a fool and it hurts worse to admit it.