Classified military records

| June 21, 2017

This is from a case that was sent to us from someone. I’m not going to write about the person or the reason that some other person thought that we should expose him, but it’s good teaching point for the phonies out there who think that they can avoid our scrutiny by claiming that their records are classified, especially since we have one phony claiming that currently. If anyone’s records would be classified, it would be this guy;

This unnamed individual spent five years with Delta preceded by more than four years in Special Forces and followed by another seven years in Special Forces. Now we don’t know where he was operating or what he was doing, but, obviously, he was a top-tier operator and the NPRC still told us about his service. They also told us about his training and his awards.

The bottom line is this; there are no classified DD214s.

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Toasty Coastie

Hmmm wonder how many F*** Muffins will steal this photo and claim it as theirs….
That would be fun 👿

PrevMed

Sadly, we all know someone will try it.

Grunty McGruntface

I’m sure hundreds already have

IDC SARC

That’s what I was explaining on a previous thread all sorts of high speed in there, but the entries are just matter of fact…feel like I owe some pushups for just reading it.

Graybeard

This guy is just straight up good.
What the phonies have wet dreams of being.

CWORet

They don’t want to have to do the work. Or the fwd deployments either.

Ret_25X

Everyone wants to be a hero until it is time to do hero stuff.

Or more to the point, the hard, unending, back breaking work to get there in the first place.

Graybeard

Bam.

CB Senior

John, It could be a case of a Classified Fire.
Their records burned up in a fire none of us have clearance to know about.
Supr, Dpr Seekrit Dble Probation.
OMG there is a black helo outside my office now?!

Ex-PH2

Did this ‘sample’ guy ever take a day off? I think I saw him fishing off one of the concrete piers on the shore of Lake Gitcheegoomee.

QM1

Not even for the Spaceship Gunners?

MSG Eric

Shhh, we don’t talk about spaceship gunners.

Fyrfighter

The first rule of spaceship gunners is you DO NOT TALK about spaceship gunners

Thunderstixx

What about super sekret ski instructors ???
it’s not on my DD-214, but I did it nonetheless !!!
All my barracks buddies hated me for it too.
I only had to give about a dozen blow jobs to get the job too !!!

Scotty

I was a classified shitbird, Only my company CO and Gunny knew.

NavyCWORet

I was classified as a shitbird, and EVERYONE knew it.

Jonp

Sweet Weeping Jesus. That guy was so high speed he made The Roadrunner look like a lawn ornament

11B-Mailclerk

I -like- that one. Consider it stolen.

Guard Bum

I can only speak for myself mind you but during my career I was in numerous places that to this day I cant talk about…of course it was because I was too drunk to remember anything….Subic Bay, Toulon, Haifa, Naples …..for example are mostly a blur!

Atkron

If you met Humpty Dumpty in Naples…it’s probably for the best that you forgot.

Guard Bum

God I remember that and the Red Devil Blower! Havent thought of that in years! My time frame was multiple times from 79 -90.

Atkron

1989-1996

jonp

I must have ran across you in some of those but I was too drunk to remember.

Atkron

Don’t beat me up too bad; I was an Airedale Squid.

SFOD-D is Delta?

Fyrfighter

Hmm, and here i thought it meant Serious F’N Operator Dude-DAMN!..

Hondo

Well, actually, it kinda does. (smile)

Dave Hardin

How was Rehab? Glad to see you lucid again.

Hondo

The tune was nice. But apparently Amy should have listened.

Graybeard

Another honest Q from a know-nothin’ civilian: When Delta did not officially exist, did they still use SOFD-D on their paperwork?

I know Delta was an open secret for many years, but not officially acknowledged until relatively recently.

And “Sample” Sir, whomever you may be: Thank you.

O-4E

Having processed orders for a dude selected for the unit in 1991. Yes. Same unit name then and now apparently

IDC SARC

Guy I worked with was a Navy Chief one day and an Army SFC the next when he went over there. Bet that record would make some people go WTF.

Graybeard

A double-take for sure.

MSG Eric

As far back as I recall its always been officially “SFOD-D” but they have gone by various other names over the years to keep things low key.

On Bragg they used to say, “I work behind the fence” and even “I’m a consultant”, among other things.

A Proud Infidel®™

Did any of them ever say “I work for the Post Office”?

LC

Other, lesser known groups do similar things – ‘The Activity’ is the colloquial name of a SF-based special mission unit which tends to change its code-word ‘name’ every two years to keep a low profile and increase opsec/counterintelligence. Delta is already so well known -and there’s some good in that approach too- that they just don’t bother, I think.

Non Cedo Ferio

You might see them also referred to as CAG. Combat Applications Group.

Flagwaver

His awards? He’s lucky. I met a former SF guy who earned a total of 10 awards. He was an NCO with security at Sacramento Army Depot (Reserves after three hitches of active). All he’d say was that he was assigned to Bragg. Also, no Purple Heart but major shrapnel damage to his neck and under the collar.

Skippy

Looks like the above is being retired

I have a feeling every POS is going to cut and paste this to there top secret 214
Jonn Are you trying to smoke one out ???

DevilChief

Thank God there are people out there doing this stuff for our country.

Cheese Eater McBlobfish

NRPC doesn’t have all my records, they’re sealed “Above Top Secret” at the CIA and at the Vatican.

Cheese,
Dennis Howard Chevalier
Denny H Chevalier

John Robert Mallernee

You guys tell some good stories and crack some good jokes!

Maybe we should have a campfire, with hot dogs and marshmallows.

I’ll bring my guitar.

timactual

I notice that his current “Duty Title” is “SOLDIER IN TRANSITION”. Is that a new,Obama era innovation?

IDC SARC

IDC SARC

Wouldn’t be the first. No GB that I talked to that knew this guy when he was active duty had anything good to say about him.

don’t think he was ever CAG though

IDC SARC

…oh in in case I was misunderstood. I was joking and in no way implying anything about the CAG Operator in the OP

Skippy

I’ve seen it for soldiers going through Medboard
But the Alpha code is off

Skippy

We also had a soldier in Germany that had some serious issues who’s 214 said the same
Thing word for word

Skippy

ERB that is not 214

John Scanlon

They can T.D.Y. Whole unit’s(many times) and it won’t show up as foreign service on the on the 214 either. My entire flight platoon in Central America 1980’s comes to mind. Still to this day the D.O.D. will play double talk about issuing the proper combat ribbon’s, authorized ten years after hostilities stopped. 214’s don’t tell the whole story about the 1980’s in Central America. 502nd Combat Aviation Bn. 1985-86.

John Scanlon

The other interesting factoid, no one was given their flight record’s which are usually hand carried. Several of my platoon member’s were recommended for valor and I was promoted. We never as a group were awarded anything but an A.A.M. for supporting Task Force Bravo. Including my promotion orders that I recently received original copies. Our records are A.F.U. 1996 Expedition Award was authorized.

jonp

No lie. I was there in that time frame.

Sorensen25

Yeah what the hell is the foreign service part about? I literally spent 5 years overseas and it says my foreign service is 0. Despite having multiple sea service and overseas service ribbons on that same form.

John Robert Mallernee

When I was in Germany, they told us that it was not considered foreign service, and therefore, we didn’t get to put overseas bars on our AG-344 dress green uniform, nor was there any ribbon or award to indicate we served in Germany.

But, I think those that served in Berlin (I didn’t) might have gotten some sort of recognition.

Also, when I was in Korea, we were told that only those who were stationed on the DMZ (I wasn’t) rated overseas bars on their AG-44 dress green uniform.

However, I was in the last group to receive the Armed Forces Expeditionary Service Medal for serving in Korea.

I got all the bling I needed serving in Viet Nam, and with the First Cavalry Division at Fort Hood, Texas.

The truth is, I never expected to get anything, and was plumb flabbergasted to actually get medals (none of which I earned).

Commissar

I think the foreign service box is foreign service during the term of that particular DD214.

So if the overseas time was during precious periods of service they might not be included.

I am not sure about this, but I do recall some wonky numbers on my DD214s and vaguely recall someone hand waving an explanation like this at me.

Commissar

Previous not precious.

RM3(SS)

My 214 is all ate up, missing numerous schools, NEC’s and a few ribbons to say nothing of my sea service time etc.
I was 22, newly married, it was 1975 and all I wanted was to get out and get on with my life.
I’ve never taken the time to try and correct any of it, I served and I know it, that’s all that’s important to me.

Sorensen25

Believe it or not, there actually are some (not many) individuals who have classified records. Not so much that their service is classified, but the fact that their affiliation with the military is classified. Doing a records pull on them most likely wouldn’t yield any information, at least while they’re active. But that’s on the 35 side rather than 18.

Commissar

Come to think of it there are a few 18s like this. There are some collector teams that are usually full of 180As and 18Fs. It never occurred to me that their individual affiliation might be classified but it would make sense if they were considering the work they do.

I also know of a really famous Major (18A) in the community that would almost certainly have had to have his affiliation classified for him to do what he did.

The thing is that none of these guys would have no record of service after the fact so once out they would have unclassified DD214s, and there would be no need to check their claims during their service since none of them would have said a word about being anything cool while they were doing the cool stuff.

mr. sharkman

‘Collector teams’. Heh.

That’s a good little monkey. If I say ‘nonproliferation’ a lot, could you repeat it if rewarded with a banana?

jeffery d monroe

he must have served with eddie murphy in Vietnam?

Nathan Huff

Thats is the lower half of an ERB not a DD214. even a DD214 will show everything. the only blanked out erb/orbs I have ever seen are the ones of people with Stars and those that are their CSM. Once they are out the DD214 shows the basics like everyone else does.

Commissar

There are classified NCOERs, OERs, and even classified FMs (had a moron accuse me of stolen valor when I told him that there were and he did not believe me).

But there are no classified DD214s.

Dave Hardin

Oddly, nobody ever wants to post my NJP’s and claim them. And, I got some really, really good ones too.

Skippy

Did you get the platinum Call of Bootie pink ops ribbon
for handing a snow-flake some sandpaper to wipe their tears

👍😂. 😂. 👍. 🤣. 😅. 😜😜😜😜😜👍👍👍

mr. sharkman

And yet another reason you are one of my Heroes. 😉

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Thunderstixx

I found a picture of larsy-boi from Tuesday night…
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Skippy

Holy Crapola I had no idea

Eden

Is that him with the snowflake button?

mr. sharkman

There are cases where a personnel file will not be available.

Not going to go into any details about.

Also, in such cases, the individual involved would be the last one to do or say anything to anyone that could result in a ‘check’ (bad form).

Additionally, were a ‘check’ truly necessary, the individual would have no problems clearing up any matters with the powers-that-be.

The Mouse that Roared

He was pretty busy, 5 deployments to Iraq and one to the Southern Philippines. Yep, I am sure most of his actual missions were classified, but his deployments themselves are not. Sorry posers, there is always a record, no matter how sneaky bad ass they are.

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