That immigration policy
I remember that for the past 15 years, the Left blamed President Bush for the 9-11-2001 attacks because he didn’t do anything to make us safer from terrorists after the disastrous Clinton Administration put walls up between law enforcement agencies, compartmentalizing intelligence. Now President Trump has tried to make us safer ahead of any tragic attack by altering immigration policy, and the Left has lost it’s collective mind.
Category: Terror War
Jonn “the Left has lost it’s collective mind.” presumes that the Left has a mind, or at least a rational mind.
Nothing that I have seen lately would substantiate the assertion that the Left has a rational mind at all. “Irrational” – and therefore insane – appears to be the appropriate adjective for the Left collectively and individually.
In short – they are all crazy.
Can’t remember who said it but they said the IQ of a mob was equal to the highest IQ of any member divided by the number of mob members… Seems equally applicable.
I believe it, David.
Certainly applied to the rioters at Berkeley.
That would be Terry Pratchett, but I don’t recall what book.
Somehow that doesn’t ring right… I have used (OK, stolen) that phrase for many years and just discovered Pratchett a couple of years ago – have since read 39 of his books and need to find more. I lean toward Heinlein? Maybe a Lazarus Long-ism? Will have to try and find it…maybe re-read Time Enough For Love to check.
nope, quick Internet search credits it to Pratchett. Wonder how I heard it earlier?
Sounds more like Heinlein, but I did find it in a Pratchet Book: The kicking and punching stopped only when it became apparent that all the mob was attacking was itself. And, since the IQ of a mob is the IQ of its most stupid member divided by the number of mobsters, it was never very clear to anyone what had happened
https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Discworld
We were taught in riot control training that, short of trained infantry formations, a mob was just about the most potentially dangerous thing going. They were capable of just about anything, and once they went full stupid, were very capable of violence. Of course, the Marines also taught that the best way to disperse a mob was by shooting the frontmost people in the head, and the brain spray would generally diminish the ardor of those behind them.
Not only that but the Corps has a saying, “Kill ’em all and let God sort them out”, seems to work for me!! Not much sense saving dead and decayed wood, not even good for firewood!
I seem to recall reading that in one of Robert Heinlein’s books. I don’t know if he invented it.
To the Democrat party, the Republican party exists only to provide the alien enemy Other needed to absolve themselves of all blame. All of what it good and proper is Democrat. Any failings, unintended consequences, and bad luck are due to, and only to, Republican discord.
Their position seems to sum up as “If the Republicans would just shut up and obey their Democrat betters, everything would be just Peachy.”
Their hysteria will increase in relation to to the refusal to obey and the effectiveness of political efforts by Republicans. Thus, they will increasing turn from disagreement to sabotag, from dissent to hysteria, from protest to riot.
Violence by Democrat supporters will increase, and the more it does, the more they will say things that boil down to “See what you made me do!”.
The next two years will be “interesting” indeed. If the voting trends continue and the Dems lose further in the House and Senate, look for wildly escalating turbulence. if Trump has an opening to replace a previously liberal SCOTUS seat with a conservative, then Katie-bar-the-door because they will lose their collective minds.
Lost their collective minds?? Don’t you have to have a mind in order to lose it?
Nah… just have a bitter little Hungarian Nazi throw a bunch of money at some bed wetters and they’ll do anything for free shit.
The Republican party is the equivalent of the Washington Generals (longtime “opponents” of the Harlem Globetrotters); they give the illusion of competition and provide opportunities for various Dems. to do their little acts. Like the Generals the Republican party is content to lose as long as they get paid.
While I agree that we will very likely see more and more disruption by the left-leaning overgrown children over the next few months, the more that rattle their signs at us, the more they throw things, break windows, destroy property and set fires – well, to paraphrase the late Princess Leia, the more those who leaned somewhat toward the left side of the fence will slip right through their fingers.
Personally, I think they’re nuts. I’m waiting for some arrests to happen.
I’m with ya Ex, but don’t hold your breath.
Most of the cities terrorized by these thugs are governed by lunatics. I give you Mpls. and St. Paul right here in MN.
The assholes closed down an INTERSTATE freeway for God’s sake and few if any were arrested.
Give it time, OC.
They should have brought in the snow plows and plowed the highway of all that excrement!
They have a collective mind, that is true, but what was left out is that it is about their collective religion – politics.
The modern left has replaced everything of faith with politics, and in their religion it was Hillary that was supposed to have won. With that prophecy being false they now have nothing to sustain them except hate.
Liberalism is cancer of the mind.
IMHO it’s not just a cancer on the mind, it’s a spiritual and societal cancer as well.
+100
Bingo
your not wrong, it starts in the mind then it metastasizes and spreads to every other aspect of life. Much like modern feminism.
It’s the belief that you can pick up turds if you just grab the clean end.
I see conservatives constantly posts this line.
Boring. Tired. Overused. Ignorant.
And as long as there is a republican president with a malignant personality disorder in the white house it undermines the credibility of any conservative that wishes to claim it is liberals with the mental health issues.
HEY shit-for-brains, just how many times did anyone hear about rapes, arson, assault, vandalism or looting at Tea Party Rallies during the years preceding President Trump? On the other hand we saw plenty of accounts of that and drugs at the “Occupy” infestations, we never saw or heard of anyone at a Tea party Rally defecating on LE vehicles either, did we? YOU and your ilk are the NAZIS, Sparkle Pony. It’s people from YOUR side of the fence assaulting and threatening people, committing acts of Arson, vandalism and looting JUST LIKE Hitler’s SA, the “Brown Shirts’ that did the same to those who dissented with Nazi Dogma in Germany during those years.
Hey, LARS… I don’t seem to remember Tea Party types trying to burn down Bezerkley when Obama was POTUS, do you?
Yea, I thought so…
Jonn, Jonn, Jonn… you expect consistency? The only consistency you will ever see is saying whatever the Republicans do is wrong, whatever they choose to do is pure and righteous. Luckily this is balanced by the mirror-image claims of the Republicans.
The problem for rational people in looking at the Left’s reaction to anything President Trump does is that we assume the Left has a legitimate beef. So, we look to their explanations and we find hyperbole and hypocrisy, crazed imaginings and outright lies. The other Marx once sang,”Whatever it is, I’m against it.” And that’s about it. IF President Trump walked on water tomorrow, the Left would say, “Trump Can’t Swim!” I’m okay with all of it. Fair is fair. The Left has a long way to go to despise President Trump as much as I did his predecessor, what’s his name. As the Left becomes more frustrated, however, it will do what I never considered: turn to violence and disruption. Forward!
President Trump (I so love the sound of that) could develop a cure for cancer and the left would bawl that he’s either denying the Grim Reaper of some of his business or contributing to overpopulation by allowing more people to live.
API, I’d like to steal this, with your permission it. Is. Perfect.
BE MY GUEST, I stole it myself from somewhere else.
I fear the day that some leftist protestors start to beat on a person with a concealed carry permit. All hell will break loose.
That’s probably why you see very little violence of that kind in AZ. AZ concealed carry laws tend to make assholes very cautious and polite.
Ditto Texas and a number of other states which have retained their sanity.
That’s why I’m sure that they’ll keep having their collective mass hissyfits in “blue state” locales. I’m sure that once they try their shit in Red State America is when we’ll start hearing accounts of them being beaten, shot and run over by Working Americans that won’t put up with their shit!
Saw a news article that TN has made it legal to run over protesters blocking the roadway.
Hope that happens here in TX, too.
I heard that the same legislation is still pending in one of the Dakotas, I’m pretty sure it’s SD from all the tree-huggers going apeshit over that pipeline.
I long for the day.
“collective mind” = communism
“collective mind” = lemmings
There’s nothing to fear from communism.
Everyone knows that.
Don’t fear the commie!
Forward!
https://goo.gl/YcUXcY
Did someone say “Don’t Fear the Commie”?
By the way, Poodle – does 2 plus 2 still equal 5, like it did in that early-1930s Soviet propaganda poster?
Uncle Jimbo’s on Fox again, I see.
Speaking of the insane Left, I saw that none other than Bernie “The Old Commie” Sanders is touring around, hawking his book. He showed up in West “By God” Virginia to talk about poor people b/c there are so many in WV. ‘Medicine is too expensive! Food is too expensive! Did I mention I have a new book available for sale in the lobby?’ Asshole
Surfing around over at Ace of Spades HQ and what do I see but a story about how America’s first Olympic athlete to compete in a hijab (so historic!) was detained by customs for two whole hours! Naturally this generated tons of sympathetic stories from the usual suspects especially since she gave that as an example of how she had personally been harassed, but conveniently left out of the stories-and she was suspiciously (one might say purposefully) vague on this point-was that the incident occurred in December.
So, lefties are mendacious little fucks who never let the truth get in the way of their agenda. Once you remember that, you won’t be surprised by the crazy things that they do.
As for the Left, I used my last give-a-shit in December, but my garage is packed floor-to-ceiling with cartons of I-don’t cares and crates of their-misery-makes-me smiles.
Latest aperitif? Melted snowflakes with a shot of Schadenfreude.
YES INDEED! I myself have been enjoying that cocktail a lot since the election!
Another favorite just after the Maersk Alabama ship hijacking was the Somali Pirate- three shots and a splash.
^^^^LIKE^^^^
Any leftie wanting a drop of sympathy from me can find it themselves in a dictionary somewhere between “shit” and “syphilis” as I tell them to look out upon the field where I groweth my fucks and see that it is barren, thus I haveth no fucks to give.
I just love seeing all the sock puppets getting all butt hurt just because Cankles didn’t win! Please give it a fucking break and try going out in the real world and get a fucking job for a change. It’s amazing how much getting a pay check for your labor will change your attitude. It will also piss you off when you see how much the government takes out of your pay to cover the costs of all your free Shit! Now go in your safe place and shut the fuck up!!!
I don’t think they can make themselves do that, WW! First, the vast majority of them are VERY allergic to work, they’re also very allergic to facts,logic and common sense and they’re likely very afraid that honest work might give them enough of a dose of the real world to hurt their precious self-esteem. Remember the “Occupy” fleabags who were demanding a six figure salary straight out of school with a house in Country Club Manor just like their folks had because it was only fair to them? Yeah, I’m blue collar and I make more than most of them ever will, great investment in that seven year Women’s Studies or Gender Studies degree. Someone could get say, a PhD in Chinese Politics and they’ll never achieve an income with that degree that is as good as mine, a Trade School Graduate has more income potential than the majority of four year grads have these days!
Get a real job? Willy, you’re a very funny guy!!
I’m glad Hillary didn’t win (but not exactly thrilled Trump did), but I think the EO was one of the most amateur moments in American history.
I also think, as it was implemented, it hurt our security rather than help it. It needlessly put people who’ve been living, working and contributing to our society for years in an unknown state where they might not be welcome back to jobs they had for years. It strained relations with allies, including people like, oh, the head of Iraqi counterterrorism operations, who was apparently no longer welcome here during the initial rollout. And I could go on and on.
If the President had said, “We have reasonable intelligence suggesting terrorists from these seven countries are attempting to infiltrate through the immigration system, so we’re suspending new visas until we can better vet new requests”, I’d have had little problem with it. But people who’ve already gone through the system? People who’d been here for years? Little children in need of medical help? I mean, come on, it was implemented horribly.
I also have zero problem with the court system challenging Presidential actions like this. That’s kind of what the courts are for, isn’t it? To determine if the act is constitutional? Ultimately it comes down to the argument being made – and admittedly I haven’t had time to read up on the legal issues. If President Obama had ordered that any white people can’t get visas, I’m pretty damn sure conservatives wouldn’t have simply ‘accepted’ that, as President, he has broad powers of immigration and is able to do that. It would seem fundamentally unconstitutional. The question in this case is what, exactly, is being argued.
Now, I work hard, earn a pay check, and have plenty of issues with the ‘Left’ as well, but the immigration ban worries me because it was enacted in such an utterly incompetent way, for virtually zero effect, and that’s a net loss for the US as a whole. It ain’t got nothing to do with Clinton.
Read up more on the legal issues, you will be surprised.
Also, check out the post a few days ago “The Trump Seven, 72 Confirmed”.
Everyone is tired of hearing about the “children”. What about my children?
Instead of lambasting President Trump, ALL of our politicians should be figuring out a way to protect us, that is one of the most important responsibilities of the Federal Government.
Meanwhile, our enemies infiltrate our borders and get their food with food stamps at Walmart.
If you are so unhappy about the state of things here how about you self-deport yourself to some third world shithole where they will let anyone in as an immigrant, legal or not. Try Mexico. Oh, wait they charge illegals with a felony.
Trump’s EO is fundamentally about illegal immigration, and it seems to me that in order to understand that issue, it’s helpful to wrap your head around the idea that the coalition of factions supporting illegal immigration are not homogenous.
Hilary Clinton, for example, said repeatedly during her campaign that she was in favor of open borders as a move toward a one-world government. This is a shrewd political posture that plays well with both kumbaya global-village voters, and companies with deep pockets of campaign cash seeking globalization. Unfortunately for her, an early example of how such a one-world government might work, the European Union, has turned out to be mostly a failure.
Still another faction, this coming from foreign governments and foreign residents who see open borders in the U.S. as being in their own national interest. If I’m, let’s say, the Foreign Minister of Bumfuckistan, the option of emptying out Bumfuckistani jails and insane asylums, and putting everybody on a plane to La Guardia might have a certain appeal. For those who might point out to me that Bumfuckistan itself does not have open borders, my response is likely to be, “So what?”
California and the Southwest represent yet another faction whose poster children are groups such as La Raza. This group doesn’t necessarily want open borders. In their view, they see themselves as somehow cheated by the Treaty of Guadalupe Hidalgo. And never mind that since 1848 the economy, for example, of California has been turned into the sixth largest on the planet. They want it back and it’s non-negotiable.
“If I’m, let’s say, the Foreign Minister of Bumfuckistan, the option of emptying out Bumfuckistani jails and insane asylums, and putting everybody on a plane to La Guardia might have a certain appeal.”
It certainly did for Fidel; look up the Mariel boatlift. Same concept, different travel arrangements.
I remember the boatlift well, we spent the better part of 5 years chasing all of the criminals that Fidel marched past the Peanut Farmer. They made crime rates rocket skyward, and most of the criminals were also certifiably insane.
Yes they do want it back; and La Raza (the Race–but that’s not racist) has a more radical branch called LaMecha which advocates a Mexican intifada against the USA to take back their mythical land of Atzlan.
I lived in Milwaukee during the Scott Walker recall election where the left wing along with the teachers union pulled out all the stops to take Walker out.
They were assaulting GOP State Senators and Reps while they were eating. They occupied the State Capitol building and defaced a Veteran’s Memorial Statue in there.
It was the same behaviors that the left is currently using against Trump, only worse.
You should have seen the whining when they got their asses kicked at that election. Walker won by 7 points.
Not being satisfied with only getting it done twice, they did the same thing when Walker came up for re-election again in 2 years.
The result was even worse, they nominated the same loser they had run in the recall and lost again. That time they lost by 9 points if I remember right.
So they think they are making a difference for their side yet in all reality they are turning more and more of America into conservatives.
I sat outside the demonrat HQ for the clown they put up against Alberta Darling in the recall with a flag in my wheelchair and proudly held a Re-elect Darling sign hand made by me.
It was sooooo much fun I had wood the entire time !!!
If I remember correctly the lefties were all gloating about unseating Walker until the vote count was finalized. One thing is for sure and it’s that they merely keep making the Right unite more solidly every time they have another hissyfit.
I hope nobody told them the real reason Walker won…. (whispering) “russian hackers”. Mums the word… OPSEC
LOL!!!
‘…they merely keep making the Right unite more solidly every time they have another hissyfit.’ That’s exactly my point: the louder the lefties/libtards/whatevers scream and throw tantrums, the more annoying they become. It is not the way to attract people to your cause.
A just cause doesn’t need screaming, drooling, hysterical swarms crushing each other so that they can hardly breathe, or throwing heavy objects at windows to break them and destroy a working business.
The more they scream and damage stuff, the more reasonable people will be turned off completely. It will have a long lasting effect.
What I tell them (and I borrowed this from a Facebook friend) is: “Do you want more Trump? Because this is how you get more Trump!”
Brilliant! Keep it up.
“A just cause doesn’t need screaming, drooling, hysterical swarms crushing each other so that they can hardly breathe, or throwing heavy objects at windows to break them and destroy a working business.”
NOR do they need bused-in “Rent-a-Mobs” bought and paid for by George Soros.
Haven’t seen or heard from Jim Hanson in a long time. Always enjoyed his commentary.
Getting tired of hearing this in the Great NW.
A lot of folks (liberals) want the refugees because it makes them (liberals) fell more worldly when they make other folks give the refugees money.
And it provides many liberals with jobs.
If it comes up in a face-to-face conversation, or online, just ask the liberal how many “refugees” he’s willing to take in his house. And remind him how those “refugees” act around Western women.
And ask them if they can name the Secretaries of Education from the previous three administrations without using Google.
Or the previous Vice President.
Could they even name say, the three branches of Government, the names of two of the current Supreme Court Justices, their own US Senator or Congressman,… Hell, can they name anything other than their talking points or crisis DuJour?
You forgot that they need the refugees to do menial things like their laundry, dishes, lawns, gardens, watch the kids, cook and all other bullshit that they don’t want to do.
I remember reading about something like that back a long time ago… something called slavery…
Where is Lars to correct us all? I need a good laugh.
Meh, I myself am enjoying the absence of that critter.
You could just ignore me and my posts, dipshit.
You literally have never said a damn thing I did not think was idiotic. So stop engaging with me and stop talking about me when I am not around.
It is a bit obsessive.
If you enjoy my absence pretend I am not here. If you never post to me or about me we would not interact at all.
FUCK THAT, watching you piss yourself in front of everyone in kinda fun, much like watching a balloon pop when you poke it with a pin.
Zika-Commie is more than likely pulling an extra shift behind the dumpsters at Flying J. It is a dog eat dog world out there, you know? Berkeley students gotta make a living too….
My comment is awaiting approval. Probably have a typo in my email address.
… or perhaps you’re just boring people to death, Piuperdink.
It would be more accurate to say you have a short in your headset.
More than that, I’d say he has a lot of disconnected wiring as well.
That Immigration ‘Policy’? We have a policy. I thought for the past eight years it was more of a free-for-all. Ya know, get in and get bennies. At least Trump is bring a sense of sanity to the process, if the SJW and RINOs will allow him to do so.
Bush’s bipartisan approval rating after 9/11 was the highest ever recorded by any president in history at 90%.
as a progressive that hears liberals talk about politics nearly every day of the last 15 years, I do not remember any blaming Bush for 9/11. I also do no remember any mainstream sources blaming him either.
The only president I remember being given shade over 9/11 was Clinton for not having done enough about Afghanistan being an Al Qaeda sanctuary. Ignoring the problem and being ineffective in responding to the actions and threats of terrorists trained in Afghanistan.
In fact I thought Clinton deserved some of the blame for that.
Seriously? Are you living on the same planet as the rest of us? Or are you just dissembling/ignoring reality again, because the truth doesn’t happen to fit your “Progressive” talking points?
Oh, Hondo, you know quite well that the Piuperdink ignores what doesn’t fit his meme. Everything has been Bush’s fault since the day he was born, even if he didn’t have anything to do with it.
Possibly. It’s also possible that he actually believes that BS.
Self-deception and an inability to perceive reality each seem quite common among “Progressive” types. Whether those are willful behaviors or not, I don’t know.
“And today’s “Revisionist Bullshit” award goes to… may I have the envelope please… yes, that long awaited moment of suspense!! And it’s Lars!! Lars!! Stand up and take a bow, sonny, you’ve EARNED it!”
Commissar, please read and digest.
Numerous times President Obama has instated a law similar or more stringent than the current immigration restrictions.
2011 – https://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/2011/07/25/presidential-proclamation-suspension-entry-aliens-subject-united-nations
2012 – https://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/2011/08/04/presidential-proclamation-suspension-entry-immigrants-and-nonimmigrants-
https://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/2012/04/23/executive-order-blocking-property-and-suspending-entry-united-states-cer
https://www.treasury.gov/resource-center/sanctions/Programs/Documents/fse_eo.pdf
2014 – https://www.justice.gov/sites/default/files/eoir/legacy/2014/04/10/pd07apr14.pdf
Whats good for the goose is not always good for the gander, right?
Cheers,
MrFace
But, but, but… he was the lightworker… he calmed the seas… brought racial harmony to all… Skittle shitting unicorns and cotton candy farts to those that worshiped him.
And if you believe that shit… well, you know the rest…
I wish we had a like button on here.