Four resign from VA ahead of discipline

| December 5, 2016

According to Fox News, Raymie Parker begged the staff at the Talihina, Oklahoma VA hospital facility to change his father’s bandages. By the time the staff got around to changing 73-year-old Owen Reese Peterson’s bandages and dressing his wound, it had become infested with maggots.

Oklahoma Department of Veterans Affairs executive director Myles Deering said the maggots were discovered while the patient was alive at the facility in Talihina, about 130 miles southeast of Tulsa. Deering said the maggots were not the cause of his death.

Deering said the veteran came to the center with an infection and died of sepsis, the Tulsa World reported.

According to Tulsa World, a physician’s assistant and three nurses, including the director of nursing, resigned in the wake of the investigation.

“All four chose to resign before the termination process began,” Faulkner said.

The VA’s excuse for the incident is that their Oklahoma facility is a shithole and they can’t find good people to work for them. Well, I feel better now. Don’t you feel better, Owen Reese Peterson?

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Wireman611

Makes me wonder what century the VA thinks it is operating in.

Deplorable B Woodman

Leeches and blood-letting?

ChipNASA

I’ve said it about Bergdahl and now these fuckers need it too.

Scaphism.

Ex-Garbage Gun Shooter

Scaphism.

Had to look that one up…

Yes. That would most certainly provide the motivation necessary to clean the mess up.

MSG Eric

I did too. Luckily I wasn’t eating at the time. That’s disturbing, but some definitely need to be considered for it.

Wilted Willy

They should all be taken out and shot! There is no excuse for such treatment! The local Vet would have done a better job. They killed him! I hope they all rot in hell!

2banana

Force obama and Congress use only the VA health system. We would see changes overnight…

rb325th

That is not a Department of Veterans Affairs Hospital, it is an Oklahoma State run Veterans Hospital.
Just to clarify.

gitarcarver

There is no excuse for the treatment of this patient.

The VA should take the step of continuing the termination process so the people can never be hired again in any VA or governmental facility / hospital. In addition, disciplinary hearings should be held by the professional organizations these folks belong to in order to revoke their licenses and bar them from being near patients ever again.

ex-OS2

“Deering said the veteran came to the center with an infection and died of sepsis….”

No shit Sherlock, fucking cocksuckers.

Semper Idem

The maggots found in that Veteran’s wounds are a higher life form than the staff members who let this happen.

I agree with @gitarcarver that the termination process should continue. In addition to license revocation, how about five years’ hard labor for each staffer involved?

desert

That wound had to stink to high heaven, even before the maggots, none of those scum could smell it? or they just didn’t give a damn!!

2/17 Air Cav

Fine. They resigned. Unless it was part of a deal, they should still be fired. If it was part of a deal, why was it part of a deal?

MSG Eric

There was no deal. They resigned so being fired wouldn’t be on their record as a derogatory incident.

Now they can apply somewhere else and just say they worked there with no “negative administrative response”.

2/17 Air Cav

If there was no deal, then resigning does not preclude terminating them for cause. Were this not true, anyone who wanted to sidestep bad paper would resign. Now, they should take the personnel action necessary to ensure that they can’t explain away what was gainful gov’t employment with some bullshit.

MSG Eric

It actually has been happening for the past few years in the Federal VA system.

People who don’t want to get fired are retiring or resigning first. By the time they get the paperwork to be dismissed, they are already packed up and gone. As I recall, they are finding out from the bureaucratic system early they will be getting fired, so they put their retirement / resignation in first to escape it.

2/17 Air Cav

We’re talking about the most basic, the most fundamental, rudimentary, and routine care in changing a dressing. If they can’t get that right for any shift of three, dafuq can they do except take breaks, take leave, and talk about how f’n hard their jobs are. Arrrgggh.

2/17 Air Cav

Let’s hear about how the great majority of VA healthcare staff are aces, diligent, caring, dedicated professionals. Let’s hear how this is a common event in all hospitals, not only VA. Then you can hear me say me, “Bullshit.”

rb325th

Considering it is a facility owned and run by the State of Oklahoma, not the US Department of Veterans Affairs…this doesn’t excuse what happened, but this was an Oklahoma facility, run by the state with no connection to the VA Healthcare System.

2/17 Air Cav

Gaddammmit. This pisses me off.

MSG Eric

Hopefully the DA finds some testicular fortitude to invoke charges against those involved and responsible, regardless of their resigning.

IDC SARC

Resignation in no way relieves them of their culpability and I hope the appropriate state boards of Nursing and Medicine stomp the hell out of these people.

Veritas Omnia Vincit

Raymie Parker is a better person than I am, if I discovered my father’s wounds were infected with maggots and these fuckers didn’t change the dressings resigning would be the very least of their worries….

Not that I’m advocating violence, but at times I must confess it’s worked out really well for me.

Sparks

“Not that I’m advocating violence…” In this case, I AM!

streetsweeper

They may have resigned but I expect the Oklahoma Bureau of Investigation will yakking with ’em.

O-4E

As someone else state it is an Oklahoma State Veterans Facility

Not a VA hospital

If you think the VA is bad you should see many of the State run Veterans facilities

One of the State Home for Veterans was so bad off I had to send two field kitchens and cooks to prepare meals for them for a month until emergency renovations could be made.

Commissar Poodle

This is criminally negligent.

ex-OS2

Spot on.

SFC D

This is one of those times we agree.

Graybeard

I suspect the family has grounds for legal action.

And as for the 4 that resigned – were they running from their wrongdoing, or throwing in the towel after having tried to do things right and then had this happen?

This makes me angry enough to want to bring a little chaos to someone’s personal life. Not the best response, perhaps, but…

Graybeard

>sigh<
Reading again – yeah they're running like the yellow dogs they are.

They need beat like dogs as well.

Green Thumb

Folks like that are usually transferred to another facility and promoted.

Keep up the good work, Bob!

And hire a few more attorneys while you are at it.

Silentium Est Aureum

Another example of government run healthcare, coming to a clinic near you!

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Ex-PH2

I’ve said it before and will keep saying it: you can frequently get better care from a veterinarian than you can from any VA facility, federal or otherwise.

Not all of them are like this, but then I keep thinking of Hines VA and cockroaches in the food….

2/17 Air Cav

WARNING. STEP BACK FROM YOUR MONITOR BEFORE YOU READ WHAT FOLLOWS.

1) The newspaper Tulsa World has the names of the four personnel who resigned but is not releasing any names because “no criminal charges have been filed.” That’s nice of Tulsa World. It has no reservations, however, about detailing the medical issues of the deceased Veteran.

2) The physician’s assistant who resigned had surrendered his license in June 2014 after a complaint of unprofessional conduct. His license was reinstated 18 months later and he was placed on five years probation, meaning he was on his second probation when this horrendous case occurred.

3) The same anonymous physician’s assistant had a prior narcotics violation and was placed on two years probation in 2005.

4) FINAL WARNING. STEP BACK! The physician’s assistant “was rehired a month after his resignation and is now working at the veterans center in Lawton.”

http://www.tulsaworld.com/news/government/physician-assistant-who-resigned-in-wake-of-veteran-s-death/article_ed574264-538f-5631-abc7-94c6df3ae217.html