Weekend open thread

| September 30, 2016

Seared

Seared Into Memory

A column of lightning radiates a reflection on Upper Waterton Lake that outshines the lights of the lakeside village, in this dramatic scene captured by Your Shot photographer Ryan Peruniak. Upper Waterton, located in Waterton Lakes National Park in Alberta, Canada, is the deepest lake in the Canadian Rockies (444 feet).

Judging from the rainfall on this mountain, you folks down river along the Potomac are going to be floating soon.

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ChipNASA

Hi Bitches

ChipNASA

You know who you are Colt, Clark, Danni-boy Psul, Dullass.
FUCK ALL OF YOU!

IDC SARC

So close

Ex-PH2

You just HAD to stick your inflated oar in there ahead of mine, dintcha? I am SO disappointed.

ChipNASA

*Blows you a kiss*
/nttawwt
//no homo

Ex-PH2

Second!

Claw

First.

Hondo

I think you may have “stolen” it, Claw. (smile)

Ex-PH2

Always, first in my heart, Claw.

Claw

First has to be declared in order for it to be official.

BooYah!!

ChipNASA

I’ll share. I’m kinda a generous guy like that.

*fist bump*

Claw

Roger.

“bump back.”

Red Ghost

A deplorable fifth.

Dave Hardin

😀

Hondo

If it’s full . . . no fifth is “deplorable”.

Maybe rotgut, but not “deplorable”. (smile)

Fastjack

Bottom shelf rotgut? They don’t even have an adjective for that shit.

MrFace

Its called “Military Rum.” In BX’s, at least.

The Stranger

Military Special…the brand of choice for broke servicemembers everywhere!

A Proud Infidel®™

Ahh yas, the “Week before payday” brand!!

Hondo

Tried a couple of those once – the whiskey and the rum, as I recall.

Once was more than enough for each, thanks. Truly nasty – especially the whiskey.

ChipNASA
Daisy Cutter

MD 20/20 — Mad Dog.

Daisy Cutter

Richard’s Wild Irish Rose — The Rose

Daisy Cutter

A tisket, a tasket,
A big deplorable basket.

I wrote a bombshell for my stump,
And while I’m there I dropped it,

I dropped it, I dropped it,
And while I’m there I dropped it.

Everyone they picked it up
And put it in their pocket.

Hack Stone

Yes, they do. Just order a Dirty Bernath.

Silentium Est Aureum

But is there such a thing as a clean Bernath? Not by looking at his scraggly neckbearded rat that died on his face.

MCPO NYC USN Ret.

Did someone call?

Silentium Est Aureum

Only if Mabus can put down the bong long enough to realize what a shitty idea doing away with rates is going to be.

Imagine a yeoman trying to light off a boiler, or a deck ape making sure I get paid for that last six months of sea pay they forgot

Hondo

This just in: per the State Bar of California, former attorney Daniel A. Bernath is still DISBARRED.

Hope being a world-class jerk and a-hole was worth it, Danni-boi. Enjoy your disbarred status.

Silentium Est Aureum

Just one?

And why no prosecutors are willing to nail his ass for his obvious perjury is beyond me.

A Proud Infidel®™

THIS reads like an old classic, the reasons that the Oregon Bar DENIED Daniel A. Bernath’s Application for Admission. Did he ever pay even a dime of that $34,000 judgement against him in California for Malicious prosecution?

http://caselaw.findlaw.com/or-supreme-court/1447944.html

thebesig

I wonder if the state of California is going to purchase an ATV with that money, then have a state employee wear a hot dog suit while standing right next to it? :mrgreen:

Reb

No..still owes…

Skippy

Hondo did Jonn forward the pics we shaped here in New Mexico for you ????

Skippy

It’s epic after being up here all this time I made it there

Lol……

Hondo

Got them. Thanks.

I’ve been there as well, a number of years ago (though I didn’t stop at the post office there). Drop-dead gorgeous high-plains/steppe area, if a bit remote.

Silentium Est Aureum

Best hunting I ever did was up around Dulce, NM.

Thankfully it wasn’t far from home at the time.

Now? I need a lottery tag to get a moose.

Reb

The pile of DISBARRED SHIT has always been a lousy attorney and he took the easiest way to make money. Anyone that’s disabled with proof that they can no longer work gets Social Security, PERIOD!

So damn simple his legal assistant or receptionist fills out the paperwork and off to court he goes.

No more frivolous lawsuits in California and Florida and god help the other states that the dumbshit files in…

Fjardeson

Top 10!

Aysel

that photo just says “fuck this spot right here”

A Proud Infidel®™

Maybe it was Thor dispatching a spider all by himself?

Flagwaver

Either that or someone finally found a spell that actually worked.

Claw

Vo Ist Der Kommissar?

After all, he’s been up since 0411 PDT just waiting to try to be the First on the WOT.

CPDtBF, where are you? Come out, come out, wherever you are.

Hondo

Perhaps 0411 PDT was when he finally got home. Or when he was dragged in by the cat.

Hondo

Und wie für “Der Kommissar” . . . hier ist er!

(smile)

Instinct

I prefer the original

Hondo

Aber es ist nicht in deutscher Sprache!

And, actually . . . Falco’s version was the original. After the Fire covered it a year after Falco first recorded it in 1981.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Der_Kommissar_(song)

Instinct

Really… well, my bad. I remember hearing After the Fires version first so I guess I assumed they did the original.

As punishment, I will give up my AQ rating badge.

Yeah, no I won’t.

Hondo

Same here. Falco’s version apparently was popular in Europe, but not in England and the US. The first one I remember hearing was also After the Fire’s version.

Got curios after I heard it in German and eventually looked into it – and found that Falco had done it first.

HMCS(FMF) ret.

He’s busy reading the September 1952 editions of Pravda and Izvestia trying to digest the Party’s Five Year Plan and trying to apply it to his version of a “socialist utopia” in 2016.

He thinks that what’s happening in Venezuela is just a “glitch”…

Instinct

You forgot to mention spanking himself while looking at pictures of Comrade Hugo.

Ex-PH2

How long do you think he’d last if he were dropped off there on a one-way ticket and tried to convince the Venezuelans that they’re SO much better off now?

HMCS(FMF) ret.

He wouldn’t make it through the first paragraph in his 65 minute oratory about how blessed they were to live in a jungle utopia… I see a tree and a length of hemp rope coming into play.

Graybeard

I’m not sure about trees and ropes – when I lived there (early 60’s) the Indios still had some archery skills that I suspect they might still employ on his anatomy.

Hondo

I think some of them may have AKs today.

Ex-PH2

I have errands to run. I know you guys don’t like looking at sleazy self-serving sites, so this one should offer no offense to your more delicate sensibilities.

http://www.camogirlbrand.com/

Thomas Huxton

she could sneak up on me, anytime

SFC D

Ex, I do love how you look after your boys, and your boys do appreciate it greatly!

SFC D

I forgot… PRESENT!

Ex-PH2

I do remember being that young and that fit and that slender. I believe it was a Tuesday…

Oh, well, next time around.

Veritas Omnia Vincit

20….couple weeks in a row now

Claw

Today marks the end of Fiscal Year 2016. Wonder how many requisitions are being cancelled right now (to stay within budget) that will be resubmitted on Monday with the FY17 new money?

It was always a laughfest this time of year within the supply and logistics realm.

ChipNASA

I remember when I was active duty, they cam in like June July August and said (When there was a surplus) “Hey let us know if you need anything, office furniture or supplies or ANYTHING because of we don’t meet our budget projections this year and we have excess, they’ll take it away from us next year!!”

Good times good times.

A Proud Infidel®™

I remember the Supply Rooms suddenly having a surplus of winter boots, thermoses, you name it!

Flagwaver

There is no such thing as the Supply Mafia.

With all the drug-deals that Supply Sergeants do to keep their books at 100%, it’s more like the Supply Cartel.

Tony180a

Don’t forget emptying the ASP before 1 Oct.

Claw

Yes Sir. Always loved the “Mad Minute” that lasted three hours.

As a side note, Tony, did you catch my answers to you about my son that was there at Campbell from 90-91?

Tony180a

Jonn please pass my email to Claw thanks.

GDContractor

I was at a COP in A’Stan that got blown up regularly by VBIED’s. Amazing how much stuff got blown up. Simply amazing. I felt sorry for the supply Sergeant so I always tried to help him out with inventory. I’m a nice guy like that.

Sparks

37!!!!!!!!!!!

HMCS(FMF) ret.

Hey, it’s my weekly shout-out to Disbarred Dickless Dan, QuEeFeRs, Psul, Phildo, Rick”the dick” Bucklew, Dickless Cockholster, Jerry Forster and all the other Stolen Valor assholes out there! Keep on spinning your lies, blowing hobos and truckers, and living your lives in shame, cocksuckers!

A special “FUCK YOU” shout out to Wallace Grey Rather, the “man” who shit all over the Hospital Corps and the Navy.

Skippy

Somewhere in the top 50 Lol
Damn dog went and got sprayed by a skunk finally
The smell is epic ????
And the burn is even worse

Hondo
Skippy

?? on the 411
Me and my neighbor Mr Berlin brigade
Are going to start using BBs and paint balls when we get back up there next week to scare them off Lol..

Mick

The sun was in my eyes.

Yeah, that’s it. That’s why I’m sliding in here so late.

Hack Stone

Honorary 1st!

Has anyone checked the All Points Logistics website to see if Phil will be working balls this weekend?

And congratulations to Daniel Bernath, for volunteering to check the vagrants at his local homeless shelter for hernias.

Jon The Mechanic

To answer your questions.

First. Phil ALWAYS works balls. Just check the local gas stations and truckstops.

Secondly. Daniel was kicked out after trying to check those hernias with his tongue.

Sapper3307

DRG can suck it sideways.

MCPO NYC USN Ret.

You guys and gals are all morrons! DAB is the winner here. He is reaping the benefits of his lifes work. OUTSTANDING and almost UNSTOPPBABBLE he is … and he will be the last man standing in his fight for justice, all by himself, having shown all of us how controlling, powerful, educated, connected, intelligent and wise he is. Don’t you guys see the writing on the wall?

I have surrendered and I lay down my arms (figuratively speaking of course) as my job is done here at TAH and have come to conclusion that he will have his day, he will show us, and I for one won’t be surprised when that day comes!

Of the few people who believe they know the real DAB, I have come to appreciate his tenacity and drive, this tenacity and drive has been a mirror into his past accomplishments and future endeavors … Throw the guy a bone he has done well in this campaign and he will again have the attention of all soon enough again. Certainly he has a surprise for us!

PS: I don’t work for UPS, DAB did not have me fired, in fact … NAH!

Reb

I can’t help but laugh…DAB will never win a game of golf, bowling, checkers, monopoly, cards or case…

From the mind of my 12 year old, a special poem…

FOUR LYING POSUERS jumping on the bed..

One fell down and broke his head..

Mama called the doctor and the doctor said…

Son of a gun, this POSUERS dead…

Three lying POSUERS jumping on the bed…

Meany pushed the big mouth off the bed..

Mama called the doctor and the doctor said..

No brains in this one and yes he’s dead..

I okayed this part of her poem and she says..

GRAM it has to rhythm and she’s working hard to complete the poem.

She got it from a kiddie song TEN LITTLE MONKEYS..

and working on another called I FOUND MYSELF A BABY BUMBLE BEE..

John Robert Mallernee

For anyone who is Jewish:

“L’shanah tovah tikatev v’taihatem!”

For those who are not Jewish, the Jewish New Year begins at sundown on Sunday 02 October 2016, and ends at sundown on Tuesday 04 October 2016, and I just wished them a traditional Hebrew greeting,

“May you be inscribed and sealed for a good year!”

I am not Jewish, but I will always treasure my memory of my visit to Israel when I was on a special thirty day leave from being a soldier serving with the 101st Airborne in the old Republic of Viet Nam, and wound up being the ONLY Christian on Jewish bus tours traveling all over Israel.

Here is the URL where you can read all about it:

http://writesong.blogspot.com/2016/01/memories-of-israel.html

John Robert Mallernee

Also, TOMORROW, Saturday 01 October 2016, and also, Sunday 02 October 2016, is the 186th Semiannual General Conference of The Church of JESUS CHRIST of Latter-day Saints (i.e., the so-called “Mormon” church) in Salt Lake City, Utah.

If anyone is interested, here is the URL where you can watch all of the sessions of General Conference on your computer:

https://www.lds.org/general-conference/

MCPO NYC USN Ret.

Gum Dagnet John … is there anywhere on this God created earth you have NOT been?

You are making me feel so insignificant!

John Robert Mallernee

Good to see you again, Master Chief!

I reckon you’ve been busy with all that Islamic and Communist activity in your area.

Boy, I’ll bet you could tell some mighty tall tales around the campfire, if’n all that stuff wasn’t highly classified information, which I’m pretty sure it is.

You ought to be out here in the mountains, canyons, and high desert of the Great American West, where, up until now, we’ve been pretty lucky and had things pretty quiet and peaceful.

“Insignificant”?

I’m the one who lives all alone and never leaves my apartment.

In a couple of weeks, they’re going to operate on my spine, and then I’m hoping my quality of life might improve a little bit.

MCPO NYC USN Ret.

I love all people John!

I am a people person, with a non gender specific, climate change and global economy perspective kinda’ view on everything!

Good luck with that surgery …

Reb

Master Chief! I can think of one person you don’t love… I don’t love a handful of creeps…

ex-OS2

Not fucking first.

Cocksuckers.

AnotherPat

LOL!!!!??

Graybeard

Got pulled into a meeting with my Chief and didn’t even make it anywhere near the top 25.

But – got a campout with the grandsons’ Troop this weekend, the forecast is upper 50’s at dawn, no rain. It’s gonna be a good weekend.

AW1Ed

Aviation Anti-Submarine Warfare Operator, Petty Officer First Class, AKA AW1, reporting.
Ed M.
AW1 (NAC, EAWS, MTS*)
USN, Ret.

I’ve researched a dozen or so Navy/Military sites, and the comments thus far are about 99% against Mabus and his lapdog’s arbitrary decision to remove ratings from the Navy’s Enlisted rates.

Great move, bonehead.

*Naval Air Crew, Enlisted Aviation Warfare Specialist, Master Training Specialist.

MCPO NYC USN Ret.

BREAKING NEWS:

U.S. Navy has announced in 2017, they will be shifting uniforms again. The Navy will be deep 6ing the Navy Working Uniform (NWU) and instituting the Gender Neutral Uniform Transformational. Known as the U.S. Navy Gee-NUT, this uniform will enhance combat readiness by providing expanded freedom of expression in a manner to permit Sailors to explore their real identity coupled with the strength and durability of rip-stop fabric. The current MCPON says, “this move is fabulous”.

Ex-PH2

I left this in the ‘Economics’ thread, but since it’s news today, the Chinese government has said it will no longer loan money to Maduro’s govenrment in Venezuela.

And he has either declared forced labor or is about to.

http://money.cnn.com/2016/09/30/news/economy/china-venezuela-finance/

Watch the video.

Ex-PH2

And this update has news that people are being arrested for standing in line outside stores to get food. I kid you not.

http://townhall.com/tipsheet/mattvespa/2016/09/30/meet-socialist-venezuelas-food-police-n2225583

Ex-PH2

…and in other news, the Chicago Tribune has endorsed Gary Johnson for President.

Their defense is that they have, in their 157 year history, endorsed another 3rd party candidate*, who lost his run for the Senate. But that was back in the 19th century, and Johnson appears to me to be too much of a fumbler. They’re all bad. You just have to hold your nose and pick the least bad of a bad lot this time.

*No idea yet? Try Abe Lincoln, running for the position of senator from Illinois. Note that they didn’t say ‘endorsed him for President back then’.

ex-OS2

James Walls, phony UH-1 pilot still works balls.

Clark D. Schreiber, phony combat veteran, is still a liar and thief.

Thomas Reister, phony combat wounded veteran, I got nothing.

Lars “Zika-Commie” Taylor still does not understand supply side economics.

Silentium Est Aureum

Electrotherapy does work pretty well for muscle aches and the like.

But having tendonitis in my hand/wrist sucks while using this thing. Not only did it take 2 hours to type this, the hotel clerk thinks I was being inappropriate in front of her.

Jeez. Can’t win.

2/17 Air Cav

“Wendy” Uruchi Contreras entered the US on a visa waiver, which allowed her to remain here up to 90 days w/o a visa. She has been here 14 years. She joined CASA de Maryland and led protests against US laws and policy. She married a Bolivian man she met on the internet and gave birth to two dependents. Then she got arrested for DWI and is now facing automatic deportation. The investigation discovered that hubby, too, is an illegal alien. And the wailing and gnashing of teeth has begun. See, she’s the victim now.

Frankie Cee "In the Clear"

I am putting the finishing touches on a “plug” to put into an AR-15/M-4 magazine to reduce the capacity to 5 rounds, (Florida limits deer rifles to 5 round capacity.), and if it works really well, I will make several of them for some friends. My range exercises show that I should be able to make head shots at 100 yds or less, and I see plenty of opportunities for shots from that close. My night shooting, with a bad as hell 500 meter range LED light is satisfactory for up to 300 yards, doing full torso shots. Having a friend who is a farmer, with nuisance permits, allows for 24/7 deer removal. I will get another 200 round box of 5.56 MM this coming week, over and above my range replenishment. Range time is fun time, and great for keeping the cobwebs out of the mind, whether it be with one of my wheel guns, my .22 lever gun, one of the shotguns, my AR-15, or throwing a knife or tomahawk. Love the country life, where every day is “Range Day”.
And, Daniel Alan Bernath, Dallas Whitgenfeld, and their ilk, never had it so good.

Ex-PH2

Damn straight!

A Proud Infidel®™

I know of a local place near me that sells 10 round AR 15 mags, let me know if you want one, Frankie!

John Robert Mallernee

@ MASTER CHIEF, Et Alii:

Did I ever tell you about my tall tales around the campfire?

It was a top secret, highly classified mission that I’m not allowed to talk about.

At the time, I was an official Seal during the Easter campaign and the Christmas campaign.

I was in Ireland sweeping up steaks (during a Donnybrook at a cafe).

I had a career as a LERT, because folks encouraged me to be a LERT, and to stay a LERT.

I won the Ryder Cup, when I used a Vespa scooter to finally (i.e., I was a “finalist”) cross the Finnish Line during the Hell’s Stinky wheelchair races.

Among my other awards and decorations, I was awarded the Honorary Order of the Burning Branch for telling tall tales around the campfire, I won the Coffee Cup for waking up in time for breakfast, and I got the Brass Star Medal for saving someone else’s bacon when they were late for breakfast.

They were really grateful for me saving their bacon, even if it was cold and greasy.

Oh, yes, I also got the Cold Star Medal for successfully invading an enemy freezer and not saving their bacon.

And I proudly wear the Typewriter Ribbon, ever since I got tangled up in it.

Then there was the time I streaked across the Baring See.

Eskimos and Russians were not particularly thrilled about the sight, though.

Speaking of Russians, my girlfriend (yes, believe it or not, I once actually HAD a girlfriend!) said I was multilingual because I had Russian hands and Roman fingers.

Or was it Roman hands and Russian fingers?

I’m trying to remember all of the details, but it’s been a long time since I was a Vet at the American Kennel Club, and I haven’t docked a Doberman Pinscher in a while.

Anyway, those were a few of my top secret, highly classified missions that I’m not allowed to talk about.

Ex-PH2

You are funnier than a cat in a paper bag full of leaves, John Mallernee!

John Robert Mallernee

@ EX-PH2 :

Thank you, Ma’am!

I had to really TRY to think those up.

After all, I’m a songwriter, not a comedian.

And I reckon there’s folks who would question whether I’m really a songwriter.

Ex-PH2

Well, we all know you can sing, and now we know you can make enough puns to fill a lexicon.

How are you coming along with the Loch Tay Boat Song? Did you get that going?

John Robert Mallernee

I haven’t been rehearsing any singing for quite a while, due to all the pain, exhaustion, and medication.

I’d forgotten all about the Loch Tay Boat Song, and will have to look it up.

Maybe after my surgery, I’ll get back to the way I used to feel, and then I’ll be able to once more enjoy strumming chords on my guitar and singing nonstop for hours and hours at a time, the way I used to.

But, lately, there’s times when I find myself actually wondering if I’ll stay alive long enough to make it to my scheduled surgery?

Anyway, I can hardly wait to be the helpless victim of a mad scientist wielding a scalpel, as the hospital is promising I’ll be able to stand up and walk again!

John Robert Mallernee

I also was awarded the tin bucket for getting seasick, and the full bag for getting airsick!

Dave Hardin

Can anyone tell me what this link is for? Just curious if anyone around here knows.

https://www.paypal.com/donate/?token=VM2FGOSyHblwE6EvWPQLvAFpbrX5PPfyEqVJHo4C3m57TWCrBxrED1bNZKhuyUGUak5rZW

John Robert Mallernee

I ain’t clicking on it – – – ,

I smell a trap!

John Robert Mallernee

I just now completed the LOS ANGELES TIMES CROSSWORD PUZZLE for today, Saturday 01 October 2016, at the MERRIAM-WEBSTER web site, and boy, oh boy, but it was a real doozy!

It took a half hour to solve it, and even then, I had to cheat by looking up a couple of things on the Internet that I wasn’t too sure about, and needed to verify the correct spelling.

So, go check it out for yourselves, and have fun!

sj

Got a notice in the mail that Tri-Care won’t pay for prescriptions filled by CVS starting in Dec. Says to use Walgreen’s.

Wonder if this is just a negotiating thing? Not a biggee for me since I use the mail-order system for all but one time Rx’s.

OWB

Got a very stern postcard from Tri-Care. It made no sense at all. Something about getting fined, or something, if anybody discovered I stopped using Tri-Care for Part D. Never used Tri-Care for anything, so just tossed it.

Crazy, man. Threats are so endearing.

Claw

Time for the football report from West Hog Flats, Indiana.

With a whopping 49-14 loss to the team from the county seat last night, they now stand at 0-7 for the season.

But the bright side is they raised their offense average from 5.0 to 6.3 and lowered their defense average from 48.5 to 46.3 points per game.

That is all.

farmgirl with a mosin nagant

Wanted to take a brief free moment to thank everyone for their good wishes. We and baby are doing well, but in a whirl of pediatric and other appointments and of course in the constantly nursing newborn stage. Our little man’s taking over our lives – as it should be, for the next while! Will keep everyone updated for baby’s first range time; by then hopefully I’ll be back to reading and posting slightly more often.

Ex-PH2

Be well, farmgirl.

Devtun

Anyone see the Tennessee vs Georgia game? One of the craziest last 60 seconds of a game I’ve ever seen. Looked like Vols had it won 28-24…er, wait no Georgia hits a long pass for TD w/ 10 sec left…Bulldogs win 31-28…ugh no, w/ 4 sec left Vols throw a Hail Mary into the end zone for a TD – final score 34-31 Tennessee. Nuts.

Hack Stone

Never forget:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=XmrDm0xKzSw

I recall Elaine Ricci telling me the horrific story of her grandmother dying in this tragedy, leaving behind four orphaned daughters. Things were so bad, her grandfather had to sell the door from his mailbox just to pay the rent.

OWB

The Sig P-226 was mentioned over in the 9mm MARSOC topic. Thought maybe this was a better place for questions about it.

If one became available, would it be a good investment? Is it still being manufactured? Am curious why there seems to be relatively little info out there on this particular model when compared to other models. That alone can be interpreted several ways.

Hondo

This might be of interest.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SIG_Sauer_P226

If that’s correct, the P-226 was the only 9mm besides the Beretta to meet all requirements back when the US Army changed over to the 9mm. Beretta was selected based on overall lower price.

FWIW: the article also says that the SEALs selected a corrosion-treated variant of the P-226 and used that vice the Beretta.

Not an expert in the area, so I cannot assess whether the article is accurate, or whether the P-226 is good/bad/indifferent based on personal expertise.

Bobo

I have 2, one for me and one for Mrs. Bobo. I also have a P220 in .45 that has become the default full size carry gun (the default compact carry gun is a 2″ S&W revolver that fits in my pocket, Mrs. Bobo carries a Kimber Ultra CDP II in 9mm).

I got both of the 226s as police turn in guns, and I love them. Reliable, accurate, and easy to maintain. I don’t recall any feed issues despite the variety of ammo that I run through them. If you can happen to find one used at a good price, I wouldn’t hesitate to pick one up.

A Proud Infidel®™

HERE’S a relaxing meditation:

Ex-PH2

I have a question about combat weapons for Claw and anyone else in Vietnam firing them. I’m trying to get the order of rifles used correct.

I think it was the M-14 first (which the troops liked), followed by the M-16 which jammed frequently, followed by the AR-15. Is that correct?

Hondo

Pretty sure that the Armalite AR-15 was the prototype from which the M16 was developed, Ex-PH2, and that the M16A1 was the improved version that replaced the original M16. The M16A1’s mods reputedly greatly reduced most of the M16’s jamming and other issues – but the weapon did still have to be kept clean to function reliably, which wasn’t always easy.

I’ll let some with Vietnam service and/or true small-arms expertise confirm or correct the above.

Ex-PH2

Thank you. Not all online sources say the same things. I have read some place that the M-14s were still around even after the M-16s and M-16A1s were issued.

HMCS(FMF) ret

Yes – the first weapon I shot while in the Navy was a M-14 (on the rifle range at NS Subic Bay when they set up a Provisional Rifle Company on the base in ’85).

2/17 Air Cav

M14 > M16 > M16A1. The AR-15 (AR=ArmaLite)is not in that line b/c it was not a military rifle but, as Hondo points out, was the basic building block or platform for the M (M=military)16 series of rifles. Yes, the M14 is in use by some of our forces but it looks nothing like its granddaddy, which continues in ceremonial use.

Perry Gaskill

The Army used the M-14 in basic training probably because it made it easier to teach the manual of arms. When the Army phased out the M-14 entirely, the existing inventory likely went to the National Guard to replace the M-1 Garand.

Part of the confusion about the use of the AR-15 is that in addition to the M-16, Colt had developed a CAR-15 (XM177) which saw limited use starting in the mid ’60s. The form factor for it was similar to the current M-4 less the sight rail system on the receiver.

The snipers I ran across were all Rangers, and carried, IIRC, a heavy-barrel version of a Remington 700 chambered for .300 WinMag.

ARVN troops also had the M-16, although you would see local popular forces with the M-1 carbine.

One of the weirdest weapons I ever saw was a World War II vintage M-3 grease gun. It was constructed mostly of cheap stamped sheet metal and might as well have been marked Tonka and Made in Japan.

sj

The 82nd was issued M16’s in late ’64/early ’65 (just before we “liberated” the Dominican Republic). I think we were the first unit to get them. I remember that there were guys that struggled to qualify on the 14 and everyone sailed through quals with the 16.

When I joined the 1/101 and later the 3/82nd in VN in Dec ’67, there were only M16’s. I don’t think I ever saw a M14 in VN.

Ex-PH2

Thank you all. I just want to keep that info straight.

3/17 Air Cav

HONDO…….the easiest way to tell the difference between the early model of the M-16 and later models, was the flash hider. The early model had a pronged hider. The later model did not. The early models arrived in country without cleaning kits or instruction on how to clean them.

By the time I arrived in country, 1971, the later model was being used. Still, while in the bush, we cleaned them constantly. Regardless, if they had been fired or not.

In regard to the M-14, during my time, I never saw one.

Bernath's Fuel Plan

I was a shitbag when I was in the Navy. Those pictures of me manning a weapon system? That was just for photo op. I was incompetent as a PH2, so whenever the ship was doing anything related to the Vietnam War, I was cleaning the berthing or sent mess cranking. If that was measureable for the world record, I’d be the record holder.

2/17 Air Cav

There is an undefeated (4-0) military academy team. There were two before yesterday’s game bewteen AF and Navy. Navy got their asses kicked. Army (3-1) had a bye. The Army plays Air Force at West Point on 5 November. As I said previously, if you have tix to this year’s Army/Navy game in Riot Town (i.e., Baltimore) I really hate you. (I am petty that way.)

2/17 Air Cav

p.s. If you have tickets to the Army/Navy game and can’t go, I could learn to love you.

sj

You must have been ruved at one time in your service because you had a ration card GI?

Ex-PH2

This should give everyone a moment of thoughtful pause.

http://freenorthcarolina.blogspot.com/2016/10/meet-young-virginia-democrat-that.html

Not a joke. Only reported because the clerk knew one of the deceased being re-registered.

Of course ID cards to prove you are who you say you are would be a powerful antidote to fraud. That is why people with an agenda howl and stamp their feet about it.

sj

I’m guessing the content of said email would make it obvious that it wasn’t you or any functioning human. One would think that Mrs B would put him away in a happy place.

I’m also guessing that a Judge somewhere, sometime, will get to see said email.

Ex-PH2

Thanks for the tip. I thought they’d given up on that game.

Frankie Cee "In the Clear"

More and more, the DRG reminds me of that inept, klutzy useless bike gang, the “Black Widows”, in Clint Eastwood’s “Any Which Way You Can” movie. The aggregate IQ of the gang was less than that of his Orang. These turds just keep on swirling around in the shitter of life.
On a better note; I had a visitor and let her shoot my AR-15, (first time she has fired a long gun in 20+ years), and she knocked the center out of the target. She will now buy one of her own.

Bobo

Since Psul left the scene, I’m getting no love. What’s up with that?

Ex-PH2

He stiffed somebody on a contract and got sued. He just does not learn.

fsckity fsck

First!

John Giduck – the turd with a face!

NormanS

Umpteenth^Googol …

Haven’t commented much, here. Posers and embellishers remind me of spammers. Seem to be suffering from Narcissistic Personality Disorder.

Me? I just did what the Army needed me to do; no more, no less.

2/17 Air Cav

Gotcha!

Mick

What a dick!!!

2/17 Air Cav

Thank you. Thank you. You are too kind. You know how to make me smile, Mick!

2/17 Air Cav

You weren’t the only one who bit but the only one decent enough to call me a dick. I truly appreciate that.

Mick

You are most welcome!

Dick!!!

2/17 Air Cav

That was cruel, wasn’t it? Should confuse the crap out of everyone who is waiting for this week’s WOT.