#NeverHillary

| July 31, 2016

I just finished watching “13 Hours” for the hundredth time, so this post reflects the feelings I have after every time I watch it.

I really don’t know what I’m going to do on Election Day, but I do know that I’ll never vote for Hillary Clinton. I’m not a single-issue voter, but, honestly, if I care about National Security and the way the troops and veterans get treated by the government that we all faithfully served, a vote for Hillary Clinton would reflect that I don’t care about national security, or the troops, or veterans.

Her husband balanced the year-over-year budget on the backs of veterans and national security. He drew down the force to dangerous levels without backing off from their deployments. There was money for “meals on wheels” missions, but nothing for training to fight our nation’s enemies. He tossed elderly vets off of Tricare and threw them on to Medicare to save a buck. Obama has done a good job of that already, she doesn’t have much room to move in that endeavor, but she still can screw vets.

Hillary has no respect for veterans – remember her story about trying to join the Marine Corps? She comes off as being a patriot trying to serve her country and some nebulous Marine Corps recruiter comes off as a sexist jerk. You and I both know that the story was a self-serving lie. She wouldn’t have put on a uniform with a gun to her head during the mid-70s.

Then there was the story about the sniper fire at an airport in Bosnia. You know, like it was nothing to her, another day at her dangerous job for the American people. If she had ever dodged sniper fire, there would have been a long list of aids and confidants who would have been fired for the incident. And some poor Joe would have had to carry the sow to cover, she could never move those fat ankles fast enough to dodge sniper fire. And what self-respecting sniper could miss a target that prominent, anyway?

And then there was Benghazi – she hung good Americans out to die and suffer, while she told Americans that our Constitution was at fault for allowing a video to be made that angered Muslims. All the while, the CIA was running guns out of her embassy. She created the circumstances, but didn’t have the gumption to own up to it or protect or rescue the people who were working at her direction. It was easier to lie than to do the right thing — like it always is in life.

Things are horrible for veterans, but they won’t get better with Clinton as President. Will Trump do better? I don’t know, but I know he can’t do worse. At this point, all I can concern myself with is having a measure of influence in Congress that will negate any damage that the Executive can accomplish. The Congressional GOP didn’t want to do anything that would get them called “racist” so Obama had a free hand with them – I expect the same thing when they face Hillary. The little marshmallows. There won’t be anything politically correct involved if they oppose Trump in any way.

Like I said, I’m not sure what I’m going to do on Election Day, but, no one who cares about the troops or cares about veterans can, in good conscience, pull the lever for Hillary Clinton.

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Ex-PH2

No one who really gives a damn about this country will pull the lever or punch the ballot for shrillary.

jarhead

Hate to say it, but consider those who work for big gub., those raking in the checks for sitting on their collective asses and producing income babies in multiples, those getting ANY kind of free ride from the government. All worried to death that if someone like Trump gets in, there may come a period of accountability and so ends the giveaways. Imagine the fear of, “If you don’t work and contribute, you don’t eat.” Add in those barely existing on S S worrying about the day it all collapses and comes to an end. Include the millions who have been receiving so-called entitlement checks for generations……there you have a good many who worry about real change. There you have millions of votes for continuing the game, as if it will never end or have to be paid for by all. Keep in mind, as big bro. grows and creates new agencies, at the same time it increases the number of voters who do not really want change for fear it might come out of their pocket. While I’m on my soap box again, by now most have seen the true intent of Obammy care. PRIOR to it, the poorest of poor could, and did, present themselves at hospitals for treatment via the emergency room. NO hospital could refuse to treat them as an emergency patient. PERIOD!!!!! In other words, NOTHING has changed today. Other than those who earn a living and pay taxes are now paying out of their pockets reimbursement to hospitals for doing what they used to be able to do and write off (of course with limits in cases). Working keenly beside this issue is the fact that insurance companies are (at least the big ones) getting fatter by the day. Don’t for one minute think the big boys are suffering or losing money. Think about it like this in the simplest of descriptions….the working class are paying WAAAAAAAYYYYY more now, the hospitals are getting WAAAAAAAYYY more now, and the biggest of insurers are slowly seeing a rise in profit. This, while they know the future… Read more »

desert

And notice what the cull picked for a vp…another cull! Kane was one of the 8 that walked out on Netanyahu when he spoke to congress…you think those cockroaches will maintain a good relationship with our ONLY ally in the middle east? Kane also appointed muslim scum to positions in the govt, one was promoting jihad….she is a bitch, and evil bitch!

Sparks

I’ll vote for Trump because I will NEVER vote for Hillary and I won’t stay home in protest and in essence give her my vote that way.

Poetrooper

You get it, Sparks; I wish more here did instead of saying they’re going to vote third party, write-in a candidate or stay home.

HMCS(FMF) ret.

If Deez Nutz or Bill the Cat are on the ballot in my AO, either one of them would gt my vote…

Wireman 611

It’s Opus.

LC

I’m heavily considering voting 3rd party because I feel both of the main candidates are terrible for the country, albeit in different ways. No matter which I choose between the two of them, I’m fucked in a dozen different ways.

Since I’m getting fucked no matter what, sending a message that this isn’t tolerable and helping to make third parties more viable sounds like the only option that has a principled upside.

My feeling is the candidates have between now and the election to demonstrate why I should vote for them. And fear of the other candidate isn’t a good enough reason.

MrBill

I’m with you.

I understand perfectly well the argument that if the two major-party candidates (Candidate A and Candidate B) are both bad, but A is clearly worse than B, then I ought to vote for B. If I refuse to vote for either, then to some extent I’m helping A, by refusing to vote for the candidate who has the most likely chance to beat A. If that’s the scenario, I agree with that reasoning.

But what if all of the “ifs” don’t fall into place for me? What if A and B seem to me to be, on balance, just about equally bad (albeit in different ways, as you say)? In that case, third-party Candidate C may be worth considering.

desert

3rd party and write in’s are THROWING YOUR VOTE AWAY….and guess who benefits? THE WICKED BITCH OF THE EAST THATS WHO!!

MrBill

You make the assumption that everyone who is considering 3rd party or write-in would have otherwise voted for Trump. That’s not a safe assumption, at least not for me. What would I do if I had to vote for one or the other? I honestly can’t say, other than I’d probably agonize about it right up through Election Day.

Joseph Williams

I am voting for Trump the LSM is afraid of him and the all the professonal pols.How do we know that Trump will be bad for the USA? . WE know the CLITONS record.Put your emotions away and think about it. Joe

USMCMSgt (Ret)

I’ve read and heard there’s a growing trend for 3d party candidates, especially among the Sanders crowd. This election could be reminiscent of when Ross Perot threw his hat in. I won’t vote for Hildebeast for too many reasons to put here. Trump is really the only logical choice because voting for a 3d party or casting a protest vote would cinch it for Cankles. There’s too much at stake.

Bill M

I’m with Sparks on this one as I hope most of us are. Trump isn’t my first, or even thirty-first choice, but realistically he is the only real option. I will pull the lever (actually fill out my mail-in ballot since that’s the only option offered in Washington State) for The Donald. My vote will go into the ballot box the day I receive it and it won’t be a vote for Shrillary.

Some Guy

Sorry, but I’ve got to respectfully disagree. IMO it is precisely this tactical voting between Republicans and Democrats that keeps this country stuck where it is. Everybody always thinks that every election cycle is too important to risk letting the other party in, so like clockwork we vote for the candidate we least despise over and over again, as if that ever changes anything. Last time I checked, the left and right wing are still attached to the same shitty bird!
If you truly want change, you should give a third party a chance. The donkey and the elephant have a proven track record of fucking things up so why keep voting for either of them? Sure, your pick will not win this year or maybe even this decade. But if enough people vote for someone else, other people will start to see that their vote doesn’t always have to be a binary one. And if enough people start considering alternatives, we might actually have something resembling democracy again.

PS: Quitcher bitchin’ – my lost vote wouldn’t have gone to a republican anyway, so it’s more a loss for Hillary 😛

Dave Hardin

You mentioned good hung Americans. If Billary doesn’t blow air up your skirt and Trumpence makes your comb over crooked…

http://www.funnywebsite.com/funny-website/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/johnson.jpg

Poetrooper

Jonn, like I commented yesterday, Trump could be transitory; if he really screws up we could push Congress to remove his ass. Based on his performance in the Senate and as Governor of Indiana, I believe Mike Pence would make a very level-headed, common-sensed president and CinC.

One point about your criticism of Bill Clinton. He bragged about reducing the size of federal government but few people realize that all the personnel reductions came from the generally conservative military. The jerk didn’t touch the liberal bureaucracy.

nbcguy54ACTUAL

Interesting concerning Pence.

Even if Trump doesn’t screw up too bad this puts Pence closer to the front for a future Presidential possibility. ..

OC

What Poetrooper said.

Green Thumb

Hillary sucks.

2/17 Air Cav

GT. Hillary licks. It’s Monica who sucks.

HMCS(FMF) ret.

I’m with you, Jonn… she’s a serial liar who would screw anybody over with the Barbed Cock of Satan to advance her agenda. This country is such a mess right now that if any of the Founding Fathers were alive, they’d shit their pants and ask for England to take us back.

Both parties have had a hand in the undoing of this country. They have allowed the entitlement society to grow to the point where we have multi-generation families on welfare and an immigration policy that is ass backwards (rewarding those that get here illegally while screwing over those that “wait in line”).

In my mind, it’s about voting for the lesser of two evils – and I see Trump as the less evil of the two. And, before anyone says it, the third party candidates just don’t get the air time to voice their opinions even in this age if the Internet (and when they do, most of them sound Bernathian bat-shit crazy).

Prior Service

There is only one course. In my opinion, Trump is a clown, but he is not anywhere close to the nightmare that is Hillary, and a third-party candidate is a losing-and-puts-her-in-the-Whitehouse vote, so my vote is for him. Change out at four years with a better conservative candidate if necessary. Who knows, maybe it won’t be so bad!

CPT11A

But Hillary went on Twitter and called Donald Trump “shameless” for insulting that Muslim Gold Star dad. She does care about the troops!

CDR_D

I am a Gold Star son (Korean War).

I don’t think that makes me immune to counter-battery if I go on TV an rip a candidate.

CPT11A

My sincere apologies for your loss.

I do want to say that I was being sarcastic, if it wasn’t totally obvious. Another GS parent that comes to mind on this topic is Cindy Sheehan. I’ve always thought Casey deserved better than to have his death politicized to no end by that attention-craving loon.

Twist

Yeah I had to read it twice. I was in the middle of a scathing rebuttal when it clicked.

CPT11A

I’ll consider adding a sarc/ tag next time. I just thought that might suck all the fun out of it.

I was ranting about this Khan thing in one of the threads yesterday. Nobody should allow Democrats to get away with acting like they are big-time supporters of the military, vets and GS fams just because they found one hero who fits into one of their approved demographics.

That whole thing is fucking bullshit.

CDR_D

No, I didn’t take your comment in any way other than how you intended.

It is typical of how the libtards think, to trot out someone like that, have him blast their opponent, and then whine if there is a response.

Actually, I think Trump said Khan seemed like a nice guy, and wondered why his wife had nothing to say.

Twist

“She does care about the troops!”

Were you able to type that without laughing? You might want to add a sarc/.

Thunderstixx

Either that or quit smoking your breakfast…

11B-Mailclerk

There are two people running for President, that actually have a chance to win. One of those two -will- win the election in November.

All you probably have at this point to influence the outcome is a vote. No third-party candidate can possibly gather enough votes to win, nor can they prevent an Electoral majority and throw the choice to the House.

So you get to vote for A or B, or abstain by omission or commission and leave it to A or B.

Actually, no. You cannot abstain at all. Your silence will be taken as approval by the winner, as the political type critter always assumes the support of the silent ones and the “protest” vote. Your protest vote will be seen by the victor as a protest against the defeated rival, and certainly as sunrise it will be spun as such. So no, you cannot abstain by omission or commission.

So please ponder very carefully what you will do come November.

Hondo

Looks like someone “gets it”.

Refusing to choose is itself a choice. And the effect of that “non-choice” is support for the viable candidate you detest most.

TopGoz

Then there’s crap like Hillary claiming her heart goes out to mothers who lost sons at Benghazi…
http://www.youngcons.com/hillary-makes-most-unbelievable-statement-yet-on-benghazi-my-heart-goes-out-to-the-mothers/

11B-Mailclerk

What heart?

CDR_D

Trump is also taking flak for something he said about General Allen.

I understand Allen is an Academy man, and their code is “I will not lie, cheat or steal, or tolerate anyone who does.”

Look like that went out the window with the Hildebeast endorsement. Screw him. He’s probably looking for an ambassadorship like that fat perfumed prince Bill Crowe did back in the ’92 Seaman Staynz campaign.

HMC Ret

Here I go again … Think ‘things’ can’t get worse under wideload? Get her elected and return in a year and let me know what you think.
I’m tired of business as usual, with the continued screwing of the working members of society. I’m tired of every alphabet agency imposing their will on hard-working citizens. They MUST justify their existence by hammering citizens. It’s never ending BS designed to control every aspect of our life. I’m tired of it. Maybe, just maybe, ‘things’ will improve under Trump. I know for certainty they will worsen under wideload.

Akpual

Yep, that’s the bottom line.

Poetrooper

Hillary was on FOX News Sunday today lying through her teeth to Chris Wallace when he quizzed her about the email scandal. Hillary said FBI Director Comey said she told the truth about the emails when Comey has done no such thing.

So she lies about lying…

USMCMSgt (Ret)

I wonder what color the sky is in the world she lives in?

Her responses in that interview was more proof she is a pathological liar.

aGrimm

After Nam, I decided to get a better understanding of my oath of service to defend the Constitution; studied it, the Federalist papers and more. Looked around at the state of our political landscape and decided both parties were screwing the Constitution. So I went Independent. Being an Independent has the disadvantage of having no say in putting up a candidate. It has the advantage that one is not tied, wedded or invested in a candidate, hence no emotional or monetary tie.

I study candidates closely, and it is rare that I am not holding my nose when I vote. Which leads me to Clinton/Trump. Clinton is the epitome of the worst and a clothes pin and camphor under my nose wouldn’t be enough. She is awful. Which leaves me with the choice to vote Trump, third party or not vote. The latter is not a choice for me – it is my obligation to vote. So I’ve been studying Trump and third party candidates.

Trump has his faults, but one thing I use as a voting criteria is ‘what has the candidate actually accomplished’. I was not a fan of him at first, but the more I study him, I see an incredible determination to get things accomplished. He surrounds himself with people who get things done – this is a critical trait in a chief executive. Will he totally meet my political philosophies? Doubtful, but the more I study him, I am now feeling that I will not be holding my nose this November when I vote for him.

Like HMC above, I am fed up with our big government. Trump is the only hope something will change. He could be an Obama empty slate and we get screwed over, but something is telling me not.

mr. sharkman

Want to know what’s worse?

’13 hours’ tried to be as apolitical as possible, which I respect. Keep the story and message on a narrow focus that is fairly controversy-proof.

The real story, a lot of details, about how monumentally and intentionally fucked up our lack of a proper response was has yet to be told. The hearings barely scratched the surface of it.

There are guys that are keeping silent due to multiple witch hunts that have taken place over the past few years. If #Killary doesn’t win, you will have a lot of guys speaking ground truth a lot sooner, and it will reveal some truly disgusting acts and events.

Ambassador Stevens was a true rarity @ DoS: he gave a damn, and put it in dirty, seemingly thankless work at the ground level when he was younger/newer- and the Arab/Muslim ‘street’, which can detect surface-only superficial bullshit diplomacy in their sleep, loved him for it. So he was able to actually get things done in parts of the world where your average ‘promotion and comfort first’ ‘diplomats’ are basically useless (at best).

As far as diplomats go, we lost a ‘1 in a generation’ who also happened to be a star in a very relevant part of the world.

Read up on his time in Morocco, etc.

Normally DoS is a no-load best, a bane at worst to DoD and field spooky types. Stevens was respected by everyone for good reason. A very special dude.

sj

A very interesting testimony. Thanks.

11B-Mailclerk

Having told us all that, should we deduce or infer a motive that someone, say a Secretary of State, might have had to allow the barbarians to roll over Stevens?

Or is it just another of those odd, purely coincidental of course, untimely deaths of informed and/or connected people on the periphery of Clinton, Inc?

I mean, why on earth would Hillary Clinton -not- want to rescue the guy supposedly running her agenda in Libya?

mr. sharkman

I don’t think so.

If anything, Stevens was one of the few @ DoS who could help her salvage good news from a disaster (and one of the publicly acknowledged reasons for him being there was that sort of deal).

There was a lot going on in-country involving various nations and orgs and it won’t all be commented on/revealed as ‘official history’ for at least 2 more decades most likely (which is as it should be, for the most part).

If you want to dig in open-source land for a ‘WTF?!’ moment, research the specific reason claimed for US/UK/EU intervention in Libya in the first place – the specific upcoming series of fights, where they were going to take place, and what the ‘likely fears’ were as contrasted to similar, earlier circumstances.

sj

NB: I’m not advocating anything sinster so don’t put the black Suburbans in my driveway.

An academic question: what happens if

(a) either of the candidates is unable complete the run before the election

(b) the winner is unable to be sworn in? Does the VP of the winner move up?

Ex-PH2

Seems to me that the VP candidate takes the place of the Pres candidate.

That’s a good question, which has never been asked before. But the one that follows is ‘who then becomes Veep?’

OWB

Whoever the new guy appoints to be the veep. The top of the ticket always gets to select the veep.

sj

True dat but the respective conventions voted on the Veep so, technically, the Convention selected him? I think.

Devtun

No. The presidential nominee aka top of the ticket has final say on who he/she wants as VP running mate. Of course the party elders may pressure & offer suggestions for possible VP candidates.

Devtun

The new President appoints the new Vice with consent of the Senate. The VP nominee will have to appear before Senate hearings just as with Cabinet level & Supreme Court nominees. Spiro Agnew being replaced by Gerald Ford is the closest best recent example.

As w/ question A by sj…yeah, you are royally screwed. There would be too much havoc & confusion to pick the replacement candidate & figure out the delegate issue. Anything is possible, but shit ain’t looking good.

sj

There must be Continuity of Operations plans for both situations. Cant imagine either party conceding defeat if their candidate can’t continue.

The same for if a Party wins but the Pres elect is incapacitated before inauguration…Does the VP Elect have any standing since he/she hasn’t been sworn to anything?

Surely there is a plan somewhere. People get into accidents and/or pass everyday.

sj

Hondo will know.

2/17 Air Cav

There is nothing to know. It’s all speculative. If it happened, say, tomorrow that Trump or Wide Load croaked, there would be time for much devilment and good times. The popcorn industry would make a killing. If it happened late, say, at the end of October, the stomach antacid industry would make a killing and things would be very interesting indeed. It’s not nice to wish anyone harm but if Wide Load and Trump got whacked by a bus, I would welcome their replacements.

MrBill

Yeah, I’m sure that such possibilities have been considered and provided for.

If only scandal, illness, lightning bolt, etc., would cause one or both major candidates to drop out!

NavyEODguy

It’s been a while since I researched what would happen if newly elected prez was not able to be sworn in ( for whatever reason).

But, if my memory serves me correctly, the sitting prez stays in office until elections can be “re-done”.

Hondo

Don’t think so. The 20th Amendment seems pretty clear that the VP-elect would then serve as Acting President in such a case until a POTUS is chosen. And if the POTUS-elect were unable to be sworn in because he/she were incapacitated, then the 25th Amendment’s provisions IMO likely would come into play after the VP-elect was sworn in as VP, even if they were already serving as Acting POTUS. That would give them a way to become POTUS outright.

Hondo

The 20th Amendment prescribes that the VP-elect becomes POTUS if the POTUS-elect dies before taking office. It further states that the VP-elect serves as acting POTUS if the POTUS-elect “shall have failed to qualify” until a POTUS is chosen. It’s an open question whether being incapacitated would be considered as having failed to qualify.

If the POTUS-elect was living but incapacitated, it would appear that the VP-elect would still take office as Vice President. They would then seem to have the authority to attempt to invoke the provisions of the Constitution’s 25th Amendment regarding the POTUS being incapacitated. How that would work in practice is unclear, as it’s not ever happened before and there’s thus no precedent.

The issue of replacing a candidate for POTUS post-convention is a difficult one. Essentially, the popular vote in a Presidential election is in reality 50 different state elections (plus another for DC) for members of the electoral college – and different jurisdictions have different deadlines and procedures for placing candidates’ names on their ballots. If the replacement occurs late enough, it’s possible that the former candidate’s name stays on the ballot. That was the case when the dead guy’s wife was elected
Senator from Missouri some years ago – his name was still on the ballot because he died too late for a replacement action, but his party designated his wife the new candidate and votes cast for him were “deemed” to have been cast for her by the courts in MO that just happened to be majority appointees from the same party as he and his wife.

The nearest historical precedent appears to be the replacement of Eagleton with Shriver in 1972 as candidate for VP. However, that precedent doesn’t tell us much. Eagleton dropped out of the race in early August 1972 – early enough that I don’t believe any state deadlines were missed after the Democratic party replaced him with Shriver. I’m pretty sure Shriver was the Democratic Party’s VP candidate in all 50 states that year.

2/17 Air Cav

“If only scandal, illness, lightning bolt, etc., would cause one or both major candidates to drop out!”

I prefer the “etc” myself.

JimV

“illary” tried to join the Marines? I’ll bet. ?

HMC Ret

Not only the BS story, but she threw the ‘imagined’ recruiter under the bus by alleging he was dismissive of her interest in joining. So, let’s see, let me lie like hell and while I’m at it, I’ll disrespect the Marine Corps. Yeah, that will endear me to the mindless dolts who support me. She’s a lying SoS who has no honor.

Green Thumb

The media is already doing it damnest to change her imagine and help her get elected.

I wonder what old Sander’s is thinking right about now?

11B-Mailclerk

Bernie is probably thinking “Will my ass ever stop hurting?”

HMCS(FMF) ret.

Lars is probably thinking the same thing 😛

Ex-PH2

Well, you do have to remember that because she lies worse than a mangy cur in the streets, she will promise anything to get your vote but will never deliver on any of it. The only things she cares about are feeding her bloated ego and getting Bill the Skank back into the White House to pull the strings.

Everything else, including her campaign promises – whatever they may have been – is just dust bunnies and pocket lint.

lily

Lets not forget CNN found the lead terrorist for the Benghazi attack before our CIA and FBI. It makes one wonder if Hillary allowed the ambassador to be killed to cover it all up?
It seems she sure tried hard to get their rescue team to stand down.

http://www.weeklystandard.com/cnn-we-were-able-to-interview-lead-benghazi-suspect-for-2-hours/article/742347

Joe

Can you imagine the narcissistic, volatile, petulant, ignorant, incoherent Trump with his finger on the button? Seriously? You guys seem to be willing to sacrifice the security of the world in order to say “my side won”, whatever your side stands for anymore.

Hondo

I have less fear of that than I do of having a lying, untrustworthy Communist-in-everything-but-name who doesn’t give a damn about anything but herself running the Federal government.

The world can end with a whimper as well as a bang. Just ask the souls of those millions buried in Siberia who didn’t survive their time in the Gulag Archipelago.

mr. sharkman

‘Finger on the button’?

Give me a fucking break.

Educate yourself. Read up on the NCA, the ‘Two Man Rule’, etc.

I love the people freaking out about ‘Trump’s finger on the button’ but who don’t give a damn about Iran – with no such C&C limitations on any/all strategic weapons – having their ability to develop and deploy nuclear weapons accelerated by the current administration.

Ex-PH2

Yeah, that slays me, too.

Button? Oh. My. God!!!! The Button!!!

Hey, Joe, you dumb, stump-sucking twit: there IS NO BUTTON.

Kindly go pound sand up your colon sideways.

Ex-PH2

‘narcissistic, volatile, petulant, ignorant, incoherent’ – Oh, well, if you’re talking about bodaprez, he’s going to be gone for good in a short time.

If you’re talking about Trump, what you see on the screen is nothing close to what he is really like.

If you’re talking about shrillary, go ahead and vote for her, you moron. Then you get to find out if you can live on 45% of your taxable income while the other 55% goes to keep the welfare crowd happy.

If you are actually stupid enough to think for one second that Clintoon will keep even on single campaign promise, you are dumber than a bag of hammers.

2/17 Air Cav

Cool thought, Joe. I like it. The thought of Trump triggering a nuclear war isn’t something I had considered. I can see that. He would have destroyed the edifices he spent his life building, not to mention the gorgeous championship golf courses. He would have his family and his friends die by blast or fallout, or leave them leave a radioactive world to spend their remaining days on Earth. Yeah, I can see that Joe. Makes sense. (Hey, Joe, lay off the shit. It’s not helping your cognitive processes.)

Joe

He’s the kind of guy who could start WW III and wonder what the hell just happened…..

Anyway, like Representative Richard Hanna, (R, New York), more and more republicans, those with a modicum of common sense, are endorsing Hillary.

Thirteen times, John? Sounds like some kind of obsessive disorder….

ex-OS2

Richard Hanna is a cocksucker, so who gives a shit.

How bout them unions jumping ship Joe?

Hondo

A POTUS raising such questions publicly or hinting that they might use nukes is old news, Joe. Ever hear of these?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Massive_retaliation

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Madman_theory

At the risk of stating the obvious: no POTUS since Truman has used nuclear weapons.

Further, by raising this you’re showing abject ignorance of current US policy. The US has never forsworn the use nuclear weapons. Current national policy explicitly states that the US may – under certain circumstances and with the approval of the POTUS – indeed use nuclear weapons. And that does NOT mean “only in response to the use of nukes by others”.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No_first_use

The fact that Scarborough is an ignorant political hack with an agenda doesn’t absolve you of the responsibility to know what you’re talking about.

2/17 Air Cav

Jonn wrote, “I just finished watching “13 Hours” for the hundredth time…” and Crazy Joe responded, “Thirteen times, John? Sounds like some kind of obsessive disorder….”

What a ma-roon. I’m telling you Joe, you need to lay off that shit. And it’s August 2nd. You’re a day late on that monthly shower and a change of underwear.

Joe

Meant to write – “a hundred times”? But that just supports my diagnosis.

ex-OS2

How bout them unions jumping ship Joe?

2/17 Air Cav

STFU Joe.

Hondo

Shouldn’t that be “GCAR” (go climb a rock)? (smile)

Zachariah Tinsman

Generally speaking, GOP is against most progressive values, but many are pro Clinton. This isn t rocket science!