Pentagon official doesn’t like parties
The deputy secretary of the Navy for the environment, Karnig Ohannessian was caught on video threatening folks partying near his home with a gun According to the Washington Post;
A man who appears to be Karnig Ohannessian, deputy secretary of the Navy for the environment, is seen in front of a home on the video, brandishing what appears to be a handgun.
At various points, Ohannessian is heard shouting “Get in the car!” and complaining of a crime occurring, and saying “I can shoot the [expletive] out of you guys right now!”
Fairfax County police investigated the incident and they ended up arresting the deputy secretary for brandishing a weapon. One of the partiers filed a report with the police.
Thanks to Chief Tango for the link.
Category: Big Pentagon
Well, I initially was thinking, “There’s one member of the Navy’s senior civilian leadership who’s about to be looking for a new job.”
Then I remember that for this Administration who you know and how well you support “the agenda” is far more important than actual conduct or competence. So we’ll see.
This guy is golden, as far as his bosses are concerned, he’s in the Green navy.
What? NO WAY!!! Given the strict Gun Control Laws in DC coupled with what nuthatch moonbats like Feinschwein and “Hairplugs” Biden have said, all he needed to do was just ask them to leave SANS waving a firearm OR fire off a volley of blank rounds from a 12 gauge shotgun and it would all be over with!!!
Dave Hardin hollering about “Gun Nutz” in 3, 2, 1…
Fairfax County would make it Virginia not DC. Handguns are not as illegal there as in DC. Heck, they are even walking back the plan to stop CCL reciprocity. They are a virtual gun paradise 🙂
*OOP!* My mistake, but I’m sure we’ll hear from Dave Hardin in a “Gun Nutz” speech anytime..
Bullshyt, try just nicely asking them to leave in YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD! You can’t tell me, anyone that has a.h.’s in their neighborhood hasn’t had the urge to do the same thing!!!
What, ya can’t just offer ’em a group hug and some Kool-Aid while you ask ’em to turn it down? Maybe aim the stereo speakers out the window and crank a few verses of “Kum-ba-yah”?
I wonder what Rainbow Ray thinks about this?
It is not a woman and guy does not appear gay or transgender so he will have to be punished.
Sorry Rainbow Ray, you actually have to do this yourself instead of making everyone else do it.
Turd.
Undersecretary for Environment?
Dafuq?
Hopefully the pistol was loaded with lead-free bullets…
“deputy secretary of the Navy for the environment”
W-T-F!!!???
Officially – he’s the guy that protects the Ruby-throated Sap Sucker from the big, bad gray things that float on the water.
Unofficially – he’s the designated “coffee bitch” on days that end with the letter “Y”
Naw he was the one who came up with the $26.00 a gallon bio fuel.
Ever wonder how a Berkley and UCLA educated Southern Californian would act when he finally gets to move to a mist issue state? There it is. Maybe California has it right in keeping Californians from owning guns.
Not all of us SoCal natives are like this douchecanoe.
But then again, I never went to UCLA or Berkeley.
DOUCHECANOE!!!!!!!!!!!!! God! Thank you! I will have to work that into a sentence today!
California law would not have prevented him from owning a handgun.
Guns are not banned in California. Just the “scary ones”.
This Californian is well-armed, and Jerry Brown can fuck himself sideways.
Why was this guy even arrested? It’s very clear to me there was no intent to shoot anybody. Do the police really think a prosecutor will try this case? Gee whiz!
In Virginia brandishing a firearm is a crime. That’s pretty much what he did.
It’s a crime? The magistrate found that there was no probable cause and released him. Brandishing a firearm is not a crime if there is justification, excuse, or mitigation for doing so. The conclusion you assert is contrary to what the magistrate concluded and only one of you two had the facts alleged.
Well, apparently the magistrate didn’t have a copy of the photo above in Jonn’s article. In that photo, the man appears to be pointing his firearm directly at whoever is taking the photo.
Doing so to impress and/or frighten a group of “punks” that were annoying him would appear to be a clear violation of Virginia Statute 18 2-282.
But judges are never wrong, and always faithfully and accurately apply the law as written. So obviously the photo above must be in error. Or perhaps the law doesn’t really mean what it very clearly says.
“Or perhaps the law doesn’t really mean what it very clearly says.” Or perhaps it does but there are other matters that you did not visit or are unaware of that prompted the magistrate (who, by the way, is not a judge) to find that probable cause was lacking. I do not know what was put to the magistrate by the arresting officer. What I do know is that whatever it was the magistrate deemed it insufficient. I am surprised that you have taken the stance that you have. He may yet be charged but it will be based on evidence sufficient to believe that a crime was committed and that he was the person who committed it.
Frankly, I’m surprised you’re taking the position you are, 2/17. You’re defending a person who was videoed/photographed recklessly offering deadly force (by brandishing a firearm and also pointing same directly at other individuals) in a situation where there was no clear reason for doing same. This is precisely the kind of conduct that makes law-abiding firearms owners look bad by association, and which also gives ammunition to the gun
confiscationcontrol crowd.Like it or not, VA has a law prohibiting precisely the sort of behavior shown on the video and the still from same above. For whatever reason, the magistrate declined to enforce VA law – which here is IMO both clear and unambiguous.
Perhaps the magistrate didn’t have access to the video or photo. Perhaps the magistrate simply didn’t “want to get involved” (e.g., was afraid to do his job), and punted. Or perhaps he did have access to the the video and/or photos, but cut this guy a break because of his position within the Navy and some perceived need to “play nice with the Feds”. (Fairfax County has a helluva lot of people employed by the Federal government, directly or indirectly.)
Dunno for sure – and it could have been something else entirely. But I don’t need to be sure to have and express an opinion on the matter.
In any case, my guess is the last (play nice with the Feds). And also IMO, I doubt the magistrate would have cut you or I the same break.
I have now gone from surprised to shocked. You have not only concluded that this guy committed a crime but that a magistrate (who, by the way, is not a law enforcer) was derelict in his duty or, as you put it, declined to enforce the law. Then, on top of that, you speculate as to why he failed to do so”…but cut this guy a break because of his position within the Navy…” Cripes, Hondo. Are you ready to sentence the culprit yet?
Last time I checked, this forum isn’t a court of law. So my opinions expressed here aren’t exactly bound by the “beyond reasonable doubt” standard required for a criminal verdict.
IMO, the man very clearly violated VA law and should face the consequences of doing so. Specifically, he should be charged with the crime of brandishing a firearm and should have his day in court.
However, I’m not the person making that call; I’m just expressing my opinion based on what’s been made public. Should more information become available, I’m willing to reassess my opinion concerning the matter.
Regarding the magistrate, I also clearly indicate my speculation above is exactly that: speculation. And I also clearly indicated that I could well be wrong entirely about his reasons for failing to enforce clear VA law. But fail to enforce VA law is IMO precisely what he did here.
The matter has apparently been referred to the local Commonwealth Attorney, who is interviewing witnesses. We’ll see how the investigation turns out.
We should probably agree to disagree here, and leave it at that.
2/17 is moonlighting as the head of the FBI I think…
No, it’s just that I’m not a bandwagon guy. In the matter of Comey, he had sufficient facts to recommend an indictment but, for political reasons, elected not to do so. In the gun pointer’s case, none of us has the info that the magistrate did.
Okay, I’m going to try to put some final punctuation on this. I do not believe it is reasonable or just to pull a firearm on anyone because they are saying nasty things to you and nothing more. I do not know whether words w/o more were the whole of the confrontation, based on the photo or the video. A police officer who did not personally witness the guy pointing a gun at someone has to rely on the victim’s sworn complaint. If that information is legally insufficient (e.g., it is conclusory w/o sufficient facts) then no probable cause will be found. It’s that simple. Was the video available and viewed by the magistrate? Was the lone complainant the one who took the video or not? I suspect that the magistrate’s decision hinged on the answers to these questions. Again, with additional witnesses to the event who fairly describe the incident similarly, this case isn’t over necessarily.
Gee, Pa…can’t we stone him?
GDC: I’ll just leave this here . . . (smile)
My comment was an oblique reference to Wide Load Rodham.
It’s the new “Clinton Defense”
Okay. I have additional information on the probable cause matter. The complaint that was received and which prompted the arrest of the Navy guy was filed not by one of the several human objects of the Navy guy’s wrath but by the mommy of one of them. In other words, a third party who was not there, acting on information that she received from someone who may or may not have had a gun pointed at him, filed the complaint. And that’s why the magistrate could not find anything but that there was no probable cause for the Navy guy’s arrest. And that video? Worthless, even if mommy had it with her when she filed the complaint. The value of her complaint and that of the video are the stuff that launch investigations and one is now being conducted. If sonny boy and his buds do not cooperate, the police will have nothing. If they do, expect the Navy guy to be charged. I imagine that the brief hearing with the magistrate went like this:
“Officer, according to this, the complainant wasn’t present. Is that true?”
“Yes.”
“And no one who was actually present filed a complaint?”
“No, no one did.”
“And the arrest was based on the complaint alone?”
“No, sir, I also viewed a video of the event.”
“Did you shoot the video?
“No.”
“The complainant could not have. She wasn’t present. You understand, officer, that the video is worthless as presented. I need someone who was actually present to swear to what happened, preferably the person who shot the video. Let me suggest that you find one of the purported victims and try this again. Dismissed. You are free to go, Navy guy.”
The news here is that there is such a thing as a “deputy secretary of the Navy for the environment”.
That must scare the shit out of ISIS.
Does he have lead in his pistol? //Asking for a friend.
That was my take away also, sj. We knew that such absurd positions exist. It doesn’t increase our security to have them named.
Just because you think you’re a protected species, it doesn’t give you special privileges. He should move into DC, where some animals are more equal than other animals.
I would bet that the assclown is one of those that would love to take guns away from “the little people”.
“Do as I say, not as I do…”
Another Pentagonian who likes to enforce his own set of rules.
(Then there was the guy who was snatched up in D.C. for removing license plates because he was enforcing the neighborhood parking rules. Remember that clown?)
Looking at it from another perspective, there are some folks in Fairfax who fully support the 2d Amendment while there are others who think only the anointed should have them. This guy is lucky he didn’t pull his firearm out on another person who was armed and had his/her own permit.
Was he riding around slack jawed in circles on a bicycle with the rifle? Next he’ll call EOD to check for coconut IEDs.
…while falsely claiming to be a USN CPO.
You know I was thinking about our favorite glider pilot. Remember that veteran the other day that shot ensnarled eagle out of the tree with 150 rounds of 22 ammo? Well I hope there wasn’t a light sport aircraft flying overhead at the time. Those bullets could have easily punctured a fuel tank. That made me wonder if a eagle had ever been entagled in rope and dangling from a tree branch near Sisters Oregon several years ago. Can you say class action?
I’m a deep thinker…
If it was bernasty flying the plane they wouldn’t have to worry about a fuel leak…
BernTh’s plane is powered by his feeling of superiority. That is why he always crashes.
Those of you asying that Daniel A. Bernath the Fred Phelps clone has nothing, I DISAGREE, he has his reputation which to this day he does his damnedest to live down to, his rottenness, AND his inferiority to actual Human Beings.
SJ – might look at the SECOND picture. The first one is a shot of Clint Eastwood from a movie. (Gran Torino, I think)
I watched the video. I’m glad he didn’t shoot the punks that were f’n with him. And they were. The magistrate found no probable cause and he was released. I hope it stays that way, that he goes uncharged.
Yeah, but I hope the neighbors now shun him and go out of their way to make this jackwagon feel as unwelcome as possible.
Public shaming used to be a very powerful tool to correct public behavior. Operative words, “used to be”.
Yeah, that’s reasonable. I would not mind seeing the return of the pillory myself. Unfortunately, nowadays, it seems to take a lot to shame people. Some things that folks used to be embarrassed about is a badge of pride today.
Frankly, I would prefer to see him shown the door by the SecNav. His behavior was grossly inappropriate, shows a lack of common sense and an undeservedly arrogant attitude.
Damn! It’s almost like he invoked the spirit of psulie-o the uncoolie-o!
Objectively he lacks the judgement to be in his position.
He should be removed or resign.
Not gonna happen. He’s covered by the “Hillary” rule, you can’t read his mind, so you can’t determine intent. Whoa, what does this do to “hate” crime laws. Naw, just wishful thinking….
I bet he thinks he’s exempt because you know…he’s ‘in’ the Navy.
BREAKING NEWS – According to Navy Times:
He has been promoted to “Assistant Deputy Secretary of Doin’ Stupid Stuff on Camera”
Dude,
No bugger hooks on bang switches!
http://mycoool.com/www_thesun_co/wp-content/uploads/2016/07/nintchdbpict000250157960.jpg?w=960
Makes me cringe when I see shit like that.
And he pointed it at someone like that?
Unbelievably incompetent. Irresponsible.
Party this Saturday in Burke?
UPDATE: On Tuesday, Deputy Assistant Secretary of the Navy for Environment Karnig Ohannessian was charged with three crimes arising from the gun brandishing and pointing. The prosecutor said that additional witnesses and information was obtained as a result of investigation. In other words, the person or persons who had a gun pointed at him or them by Ohannessian signed a complaint. Ohannessian is reported to be on leave from his critical duties protecting the environment or something.