Lundin v. Teti
We have a fairly long history with Joe Teti, the reality show personality on Discovery Channel’s Dual Survival program. We published his records about three years ago, he went nuts on us a few weeks later. It all began because David Canterbury, Lundin’s co-personality on the show was fired because of lies about his military service and experience. Before we published Teti’s records, I talked to him for an hour or so on a Sunday. He kept reminding me that he was a “star’ and that I should tread lightly. His problem, of course, wasn’t with what I wrote, but rather what everyone else wrote about him in the comments. Mostly, he didn’t like that people wouldn’t accept him as a veteran of the global war against terror because he wasn’t in the military – he was a contractor.
A number of people examined his records and decided that he wasn’t all that he said that he was – some of his training was lacking. So he sued them. As far as I know, that case is still wending it’s way through the court system.
Yesterday, we got word that Cody Lundin, Canterbury’s replacement on the show is suing Teti, according to TMZ;
Lundin says producers made it look like he was losing it on set — but according to the docs, his partner, Joe Teti, was the real menace. He says while shooting in Norway … Teti threatened to “bury” him on a mountain while waving around an ice axe. During a shoot in Hawaii, Lundin says Teti threatened to impale him with a spear.
Lundin says Teti, a former CIA operative, once said … “You better not blow this for me … I think you know what is going to happen to you” — and also flaunted pics of people he allegedly killed during his CIA days.
I have no idea how we dodged the lawsuit that Teti filed against the world, so I won’t poke this bear, either.
Category: Legal
Lundin was one of the original stars, with Canterbury. Teti was brought onboard after Canterbury left, as the “military survival expert” to Lundin’s real primitive survival skills. Having read an article or two about him in Backwoodsman magazine, I think that Lundin is a knowledgeable and likeable guy–even if a bit different than most.
As for the show, I never watched more than an episode or two, and that was over four years ago. Teti reminds me of so many other has-been sorts who cling to wartime service. Be proud of what you accomplished, but don’t flaunt credentials that mean little outside of warzones. As for a true survival situation, I think Lundin would thrive, while Teti would slowly deteriorate.
“As for a true survival situation, I think Lundin would thrive, while Teti would slowly deteriorate.”
I happened upon a weekend seminar Lundin has some years before his show. He knows his stuff like few do.
The shows premise was always flawed: “Ying vs. Yang.” “Contrasting approaches.” Etc. Uh, No. In reality, it was “Lundin and some guy with one-tenth the experience doing stupid stuff that literally gets people killed but we hired because … ex-military.” (There’s an article to be written about all the people who’ve died specifically because they tried something Bear Grylls did on T.V.)
Seems to me anyone can learn survival stuff, even from posers. You never know, because even liars have to speak the truth once in a while.
I see the tongue firmly planted in your cheek Jonn…
I wonder what kind of stories Matt Graham would have about Teti.
I wonder what Michael Donatelli’s opinion of him would have been? RIP Michael. 🙁
I think sometimes I need to perhaps engage more with what passes for entertainment these days. My days are typically filled with working at my business, and then either coaching or refereeing after work, then home to do some homeowner stuff, then rinse and repeat…. I’ve added the sailboat for weekend entertainment purposes, I sometimes watch the Science Channel, Bundesliga or BPL and if nothing else MLS, and Game of Thrones because my wife loves that show and I love her and she puts up with me and everything I do…my total TV time for the entire week is probably less than 4 hours including the 90 minutes of soccer… Beyond that I couldn’t pick any of the guys you mention in your article out of a lineup if my life depended on it…I poke fun at the Kardashian clan because they’re on the news but I have no idea how many of them there are or if Bruce Jenner is the only real weirdo or not…nor could I tell you which one of them is which… I’ve discovered I’ve become something of a cultural hermit, I’m isolated from much of what passes for culture and entertainment because mostly I’m enjoying myself without outside assistance. As with so much of this “reality” TV much of it appears to be staged bullshit for entertainment, consequently some drama must be manufactured each week to put a hook into the story…I can’t imagine watching two idiots building a shelter and huddling together to stay warm could be entertaining for an hour, but hey some folks like watching golf which is as exciting as watching old people fuck so whatever floats their boat I guess… Glad you avoided additional litigation Jonn, I’m just about done with my youth sports organization for the same fucking reason. Every asshole and their kid wants to litigate every aspect of their participation that doesn’t turn out as they’d hoped. Consequently our insurance rates to cover litigation create a rising fee structure just for kids to participate. I was out on the boat listening to nothing more than the… Read more »
Amen, VOV. The only reason I have cable is for 1) internet access, 2) sports (Tigers/Red Wings…Lions? ugh, noooooo way) and 3) the occasional laughs from watching “Cops.” Other’n that, I’m culturally-ignorant and an anti-social media psychopath.
I cut the cable a couple months ago and bought a Kodi. You still need a good WiFi connection but I have had no trouble watching Tiger games. An added bonus is that I am slowly moving to Florida and I can watch the games down there, too. Depending on what stream you get will determine who the announcers are.
VOV, you are a very sensible man.
I don’t have a working TV. I don’t even go to the movies any more because the entry fee is ridiculous. I can recall getting into the movies on a weekend for $.25 instead of $25.00 plus stale popcorn. I buy DVDs instead. The only reason I can think of to have a TV is for the DVDs. Otherwise, I can watch them on my desktop.
I get the local newspaper. I prefer hard copy magazines over e-zines and read print books instead of e-books. People plant plenty of gardens around here and do their own preserving.
This Teti guy has a screw loose that seems to have gotten worse since the first encounter with him. I’d like to know why the Discovery Channel keeps renewing his contract. If he gets enough bad PR, maybe they’ll use some sense and cancel his show. ‘Full Metal Jousting’ made more sense.
Red Box is better, unless you plan on watching the movie 20+ times.
And sad that Teti thinks suing and intimidating people is a good tactic.
All disagreements over the value of soccer aside, VOV, what you describe is truly depressing. Nobody seems to understand anymore that child sports are still sports, and while kids are supposed to have fun, they’re also supposed to learn the value of competition, maximum effort, teamwork, sportsmanship, and earning your place. Teamwork means the team does its best for the individual while the individual makes sacrifices for the team. Too many people today think it’s a one-way street so their participation-trophy-winner can feel good about themselves. None of them understand that the team CAN’T make every special snowflake the star, especially if the kid sucks. You want your kid to be the starter? Great! Everybody else wants the same for their kid and wants it just as much, so what makes your kid special? The only way to be fair is to reward the kids who exhibit both skill in the game and a willingness to work with (and sacrifice more) for the team. You’re pissed because your kid got benched? He never pays attention and is a prick to the other kids. Why the hell should we reward that instead of the kid who busts his ass and gets along with everyone? One of the best things I did as a kid was playing Little League Baseball. I suck at Baseball, but it’s a beautiful game, and I love it. I wasn’t very good, but I didn’t want to ride the pine. When I didn’t get to play, my Mom and Dad didn’t bitch at the coach. They told me I needed to earn my way onto the field, so I worked my ass off to improve. My fielding was never very good, but my batting improved enough to get me some game time. The sacrifice-RBI was an important lesson to learn about the game and life. Another important lesson was the difference between winning, losing honorably when you’re legitimately outplayed (and vowing to come back stronger next time), and being a loser. The “participation trophy” mentality, regardless of which game you’re playing, has created a generation of losers,… Read more »
Agreed Whitey, I often use music analogies because the difference in skill sets is clearly obvious while sports is sometimes less obvious. Especially when the parents were shit athletes too…
The boy who gets the trumpet solo gets it because he sounds like a pro when he stands up and plays…if your kid sucks at trumpet and stands up and plays everybody is going to ask what the fuck did they think they were doing that shitty musician a solo…
I like soccer because I can take any kid that wants to be there and make them a decent player, and they learn to be fit and to understand all of what you said about team play. If they don’t have some natural talent or passion I can’t make up for that, but I can teach them exactly what you said. That sometimes you just have to work harder to get where others fall naturally. That’s a great lesson.
I’m just tired of the litigation from the folks who lack commitment and an understanding of the hard work required to be good at anything, sports or life. The last couple of decisions we won, but it’s still expensive and it kills me to raise fees to cover insurance for a few assholes…that’s the part that lately makes me wonder if it’s time to move on to just being a selfish old crank and enjoy what’s left before I retire or get sick…
It seems we had similar childhoods, my little league experience was pretty bad. Couldn’t hit, couldn’t field, it was all basically to lack of practice and experience. My folks supported me, didn’t push me or denigrate me. If I wanted to get better, I had to do it myself. One of those life lessons that aren’t taught anymore.
Nobody seems to understand anymore that child sports are still sports, and while kids are supposed to have fun, they’re also supposed to learn the value of competition, maximum effort, teamwork, sportsmanship, and earning your place.”
I would like to add this to your list: and beating the crap out of your opponent. As I like to say, baseball is fun but winning baseball is more fun.
No beating crap out of other teams anymore. In Ohio, one of the leagues my grandkids play in has these mercy rules! When one team is winning by six, they lose players. So if you’re winning you can be down to 2 players and a goalie against 9 plus the goalie. You are also not allowed into the box. You can kick outside the box but can’t follow it in! If you still score after the losing team has this advantage they call the game. Talk about humiliating! My grandkids asked if I played little league, and I said no, I didn’t make the team. They were amazed that not everyone played if they wanted to. I think thats the problem now:you don’t have to try out- everybody is a winner, etc!
Having worked as a sportswriter, my own observation is that parents tended to fall into three types. With some it was vicarious; they were trying to relive their own experience through their offspring instead of just letting the kid be a kid. Other parents, the poorer ones, saw sports as an opportunity for their kid to escape what might have been considered the trap of a small town by getting a college scholarship.
Still another group, likely the majority, had both a love of the game, and an appreciation of its implications for passing along life lessons. Similar to the idea that fishing isn’t really about fishing, and golf isn’t really about golf.
The Duke of Wellington once said that the Battle of Waterloo was won on the playing fields of Eton.
All those survival shows are bullshit. Drinking pee? What’s missing from these shows is using flaming squirrels in treetops. (That post still cracks me up).
A long time ago, Discovery Channel had interesting documentaries about science, military tech, and wildlife; now it is filled with reality garbage, and its offshoots (Animal Planet, Science, TLC, etc.) are just as bad if not worse. History Channel has gone the same route, and its H2 offshoot has mutated into some kind of network that specializes in queers and weed (Viceland). Even the Weather Channel has turned into reality show junkland….(sigh)…
A&E is another – use to remember watching older TV series in the early AM and on Sundays they would show British mini-series (Horatio Hornblower with Ioan Gruffudd and the Sharpe’s series with Sean Bean were some of the first that I remember watching).
Most of Cable is nothing but what I call “trailer trash TV” – Hell, MTV doesn’t even show music videos any more, it’s mostly hipster/teen TV “trauma drama”.
Yep. No wonder of the Muslims hate us. All that trailer trash TV is piped right over there via satellite.
WORD ^^^^^^^
+1.
That is why I watch Nickelodeon.
Don’t forget about sprout !!!!! ????
If it’s available through your cable provider or if you have a decent antenna there is a network called Antenna TV. Nothing but old shows and Johnny Carson is on every night including weekends.
Yes… and there is another on Dish Network called Get TV that does the same thing.
If you are able to use an antenna, I get 40 channels from Denver, and Get and Antenna are over the air.
History Channel once had good programming. It then became the Hitler-Alien-Bigfoot Channel, which also occasionally had good programming. Now Hitler is gone (in my area, anyway) and I’m left with alien and bigfoot stuff, which is often comical. They still show good stuff once in a while. Much of the stuff elsewhere is reality this & that, housewives of who cares, etc. Pretty much pablum. There are still Saturday cowboy shows.
I like River Monsters. I think it’s on the Travel Channel.
My wife is addicted to the two cooking channels, even thought she doesn’t need them. She’s an excellent cook/chef/baker all on her own.
It’s on Animal Planet. 😉
Love that show. I want to know how many hours that Fishing PhD spends on the water for every targeted fish he lands.
I don’t think it matters. He has the ultimate job. Gets paid to travel to exotic places all over the world and go fishing for exotic fish. I’d like to reiterate that they PAY him to do that. Lucky bastard.
I have the same opinion for the old Top Gear UK cast. They got to drive dream cars and travel the world making ridiculous salaries to do so. Now they are going to pay “Joey” to do it instead. WTF world?
“River Monsters” is an excellent show that’s claimed quite a few hours of my life. And I don’t even fish that much!
Okay, okay. I’ll say it. Teti is a tittie. He’s an ass hole through and through. Not because of his show which I have seen once and laughed because I thought it was a comedy routine but because he is so full of himself, thus, so full of shit.
Shitbag!
Teti….what a turd.
Maybe he should buy Cody some shoes and they share a spliff and call it even.
It’th not juice! It’th a protein shake!
Pee drinker is at it again..
Goodie. I get to use it again! Here goes:
I don’t often drink pee but, when I do, I prefer to drink my own. stay thirsty, my friends.
Who? lol.
Wasn’t Teti about to be booted from his SF unit when he ETSed? I remember reading corroborated accounts of that as well as his getting shitcanned from being a Contractor in the ME.
What these “survival experts” always fail to mention, is that it’s usually a good policy to avoid putting oneself into a “survival” situation in the first pace. More often than not, it’s avoidable.
Yep that’s it in a nutshell…little old mount Washington up here in the Northeast has killed only 80 less people than have died on Everest since they started recording that stuff…I think Everest sits around 235 these days and Washington is at about a buck and a half…
People are dumb as fuck and don’t go prepared…mostly because they don’t understand the danger at all. Some folks think flip flops and shorts are okay because it’s 90 degrees out without understanding the Washington’s unique placement means it could be minus thirty and snowing only 5000 feet above them within an hour or two and they will die from exposure dressed like it’s summer at the beach…
If you don’t head up the mountain dressed for the beach you’ll be fine otherwise you might have a really bad day…not much different than the folks who are only fair weather coastal sailors deciding it’s a good time to try that open water crossing in a boat that’s not know for being a blue water sailer….it never ends well.
Mountain climbing is another of my passions…that I have never engaged. Motocross is another.
True. People have died every month of the year trying to climb that “little” 6300′ mountain.
The IA of the station I worked at for a long time has a trail on Forest Service land that’s very popular with idiots. Three miles down a steep sidehill switchback trail into a deep canyon, part of which requires holding on to a cable so you don’t eat shit downhill, to reach a seasonal waterfall. All on a west aspect in southern California. No shade the entire way. And most of them don’t get what a “seasonal” waterfall is, as the stupidity is most prevalent between the months of July and September. When the temperature exceeds 95 degrees, the trail becomes inexplicably more popular. And we’re guaranteed to be out there at least five times on any given weekend to haul somebody’s ass back up to the road. The process generally involves multiple engines, at least one helicopter, and an extra medic unit to treat our guys for dehydration once they hike out. I’ve hiked in there for a 58-year-old dude in sandals and a sweater who weighed about 400lbs (once he was in the Huey, I took his daughter aside and calmly and explicitly asked her what the fuck she was thinking; cue blank stare). I’ve gone in there for retards who didn’t bring any water because that would’ve taken up space needed for beer. One time we even pulled a sorority group out of there–despite the eye candy, it wasn’t nearly as fun as it sounds. There was one time that we hiked in with a Stokes basket, put the three patients in the Sheriff’s helo, and were supposed to get flown out ourselves. Alas, the helo was a Little Bird instead of the preferred Huey, and the SO pilots said they couldn’t take our Stokes. I said, “Bullshit! I got 60 feet of webbing here, I can and will lash that thing in like a motherfucker.” The pilots said no, with more than a hint of sadistic pleasure. So we said, ” Oh, FUCK you guys!” and humped the stokes and related gear back up the hill for the next four hours. I emptied my camelbak,… Read more »
TOW,
Whats that blog address again? Because there is no way that these stories aren’t written down… they should. I love reading about morons.
This is so true, whenever I hear “so-and-so didn’t come back from a day hike” my first thought is, “oh great there’s another body they won’t find till next season”.
For those that don’t understand, the brush here in the beautiful pacific northwest is thick, like you can walk on top of it thick.
The other one is, so-n-so went swimming in the ocean/river and drowned. If you ever find yourself in the PNW on a warm day and decide to go to a river or ocean, remember that the water is fucking cold year round.
Teton Range tourists never seemed to understand that that creek that sucked every calorie out of their body was a fookin’ glacier 5 miles upstream.
You speaketh the truth. Water soming off the mountains is GD cold year around and the lakes and rivers it drains into aren’t bathtubs!
Eventually, Darwin wins.
Several years ago I was bored and scrolling through the channels. I landed on Discovery Channel airing Duel Survival. Though I knew it was a staged fake job I bit and watched a whole five minutes. Guess what I got to watch?
Yep, it was Teti the Titties favorite scene. He was attempting to convince his co-survivor that it’s kool to drink pee out of some kind of helmet(?). I actually had to watch long enough to see if he did the deed, and yes he did! As I recall he claimed he learned that trick during his military survival training.
That was enough Duel Survival for me. Later I learned the famous peester’s name right here on This Ain’t Hell.
Waving around an ice shovel (or whatever). Sounds familiar.
In honor of Mr. Titty, I offer the following:
http://www.foxnews.com/leisure/2016/02/02/cocktail-guide-offers-recipes-to-make-drinks-from-urine/
I don’t have Facebook and I’ve not had a TV for almost 20yrs. Who are these people and why does anyone care about them?
But, I sorta like The Walking Dead….
I’m pretty sure it’s Abraham who recieved the bat beating
My wife watches that show, sometimes I endure it alongside her….it could be good, but the number of stupid fucking idiot moves they make on every show makes me wonder how anyone of them have survived this long. Based on their decision making abilities the cast should turn over at a rate near 100% about every 5th episode…I watched one episode with the wife where the talked about how from now they were all going to stick together and work in teams and 5 minutes later they were scattered as singles all over the map…fucking idiots.
And the soldier dude, that guy must have been in supply or something because he knows dick about small unit tactical maneuvering…
Wow, after reading this maybe now I know why the wife doesn’t always ask me to watch…it’s just entertainment (supposedly) after all…I gotta learn to be less of a nudge, or at least to STFU about it.
UPDATE:
Dual Survival Canceled-Teti FIRED via Discovery Channel promotes Joseph Teti, a man of Stolen Valor
https://www.facebook.com/search/top/?q=joe%20teti%20dual%20survivor
What a secret squirrel wannabe. “I’m so secret, that you even thinking about me is borderline treasonous”. Vague, unverifiable claims that cannot be proven or disproven. TOP SECRET – unless it’s part of his resume/bio. Star – more like my smelly starfish.
He’s like that 11yr old snot mouthed kid who thinks bad attention is better than no attention. In his case, bad press is better than no press.