More US troops to Iraq

| April 18, 2016

last convoy out of Iraq

The Obama Pentagon announced that they’re sending almost 200 more US troops to Iraq to bolster numbers there from 3,870 to 4,087, according to the Washington Post. They’re mostly artillery and a aviation assets to help the Iraqis take back Mosul;

Raising the Iraqi flag in Mosul would be a symbolic victory for the government of Prime Minister Haider al-Abadi, facing a mounting political crisis, and for the White House, which is seeking to deal a decisive blow to the Islamic State before President Obama leaves office.

The decisions are the latest indication of officials’ increasingly urgent desire to make the U.S.-led campaign of airstrikes and training efforts, which began in 2014, more effective.

You know what would have been really great? If they hadn’t lost Mosul in the first place, but then that would have detracted from the number of campaign slogans available for the 2012 election.

From AFP;

While most American forces in Iraq play advisory and support roles, Washington has also sent in special forces to carry out raids against IS, and US Marines have deployed to provide artillery support for Iraqi troops.

Obama repeatedly pledged that there would be no “boots on the ground” to combat IS, but US forces are engaged in combat with the jihadists and two American military personnel have already been killed.

“No boots on the ground” has become “closer to the action”;

Speaking to reporters Monday in Baghdad, Defense Secretary Ash Carter said the decision to move U.S. advisers to the Iraqi brigade and battalion level will put them “closer to the action,” but he said they will have security forces with them and the U.S. will do what’s needed to reduce the risks.

A senior U.S. official said that there will be eight Apache helicopters authorized to help the Iraqi forces when Iraq leaders determine they need them.

Of course, a real leader would have put enough troops AND equipment in the fight in the first place. Who the hell sends attack helicopters to Iraq with no crews?

Thanks to Pinto Nag and Chief Tango for the links.

Category: Terror War

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nbcguy54ACTUAL

Mission Creeeeeeeeeep?

Naw.

Veritas Omnia Vincit

Yeah, I am remembering this cartoon….

http://media.cagle.com/144/2014/08/19/152522_600.jpg

B Woodman

That’s my question. What’s on their feet?
And what’s their MOS? Combat? Combat Support? Or Combat Service Support? (I may be showing my age here)

Skippy

Not really the numbers are way on the low side but it’s only support

desert

Obama is as freaking incompetent as Montgomery and DeGaulle! that makes a threesome of complete IDIOTS!

Pinto Nag

They just had to have their Vietnam, didn’t they? Except for the music. They forgot the music for this one.

/sarc

Ex-PH2

Okay, well, here you go, PN. Country Joe and the Fish at Woodstock.

https://youtu.be/-7Y0ekr-3So

Ex-PH2

Just change Vietnam to Afghanistan, and keep singin’.

2/17 Air Cav

“They’re mostly artillery and a aviation assets to help the Iraqis take back Mosul….” How many times will the well trained, well equipped Iraqi Army lose it such that it has to be retaken? If stupid is as stupid does, this is damn stupid.

valerie

I seem to remember reading that some military advisor recently said we need 50,000. If so, 200 is a number that seems destined to get more people killed, to no good result.

Devtun

Retired GEN/former CSA Ray Odierno.

Skippy

We are well on our way.. Quickly To

USMCMSgt (Ret)

No surprises considering this administration has proven time and time again how absurdly inept it is. Meanwhile, I hope those sent into harms way expedites the jihadists wishes of martyrdom and return home safe.

Ex-PH2

‘You know what would have been really great? If they hadn’t lost Mosul in the first place….’

Now, Jonn, you know I love and respect you but you have to stop expecting a bunch of metrosexual hippies to have the faintest understanding of the real world.

Yours is the cold, hard world of reality that sees this and weeps in frustration.

Theirs is the warm, fuzzy world that sends the scent of pancakes and sausage and warm maple syrup through the house on a cold winter morning. They have never had to face reality, and they never will. Their warm, fuzzy world is the one where everything is fine… nothing is wrong… everything is just fine… maintain an even strain… and all the ‘bad’ stuff, like people who want you dead because AMERICANS! and will do their best to kill you, just does not happen.

I hope they never live this shit down. EVER.

B Woodman

In other words, PajamaBoy live here!

Ex-PH2

You got that right.

2/17 Air Cav

I just did a quick survey of the Bigs to see if the story made the cut. Beyonce (?) and Johnny Depp and his dog apology (?) seem to be important stories. So, what I saw: Fox, CBS, and CNN=Nothing. NBC and ABC both covered it. One of them did so b/c Ashton Carter will be interviewed on their show tonight. I forget which but I’m pretty sure it was NBC.

Martinjmpr

Hey, just remember that in 2008, Obama promised to GET our troops out of Iraq.

He didn’t promise to KEEP them out. 😉

Blaster

You’re learning. Read a few more posts fromLars and you’ll have it completely down?

HMC Ret

This to me is similar to the ‘incremental response’ or ‘measured response’ so popular by the bean counters during the Vietnam War. You know, be reactive instead of being proactive and occasionally wave the victory banner, as the Loser in Chief is doing. If we had employed this tactic during WW2, we would still be on the beaches of Normandy. Jeez, when will the adults again be in charge? Fish or cut bait. Will this never end?

The Other Whitey

If we fought WWII this way, the tiny bit of America left intact would be dominated by Nazis and imperial japs.

2/17 Air Cav

Put the military aspect of this aside and ask whether anyone who wants to win at anything begins by weakening his organization, plays by rules that favor his opponent, invites others to join him knowing damn well they don’t want to win and will, oftentimes, undercut his efforts, sets a goal that is unattainable, dwells on matters and uses his personnel on tasks unconnected to winning, and changes objectives willy-nilly.

tc

“Who the hell sends attack helicopters to Iraq with no crews?” I don’t know why, but I got a chuckle out of this.

PFM

I’m sure that something remains of Diamondback, Freedom and Marez – we can just roll in, take ’em back, refurbish ’em and give them back to the Iraqis. They will give them back to ISIS in turn. Rinse and repeat.

Grunt

Can’t forget Patriot…

Green Thumb

Its coming folks.

Been there; done that.

Get ready to do it again.

Not a personal opinion; just an observation.