Sanders gets C&D letter from the American Legion
According to Politico, the Bernie Sanders campaign has been using the American Legion’s seal in his campaign literature and they had to send him a cease and desist letter twice to get him to stop. The seal is trademarked and protected against unauthorized use by the US Code.
The Sanders campaign has come under fire in recent weeks for using the veterans organization’s logo on fliers. “We sincerely appreciate the notification of the unintentional improper use by Sanders of the emblem of The American Legion and the helpful information pertaining to your concerns,” the Seattle-based firm Garvey Schubert Barer said in a statement representing the campaign. “Sanders takes intellectual property matters very seriously and does its best to respectfully and appropriately acknowledge and to not infringe the intellectual property rights of others.”
Yeah, they’re so respectful of the laws that have to be asked twice. The American Legion isn’t the only organization’s graphics to which the Sanders campaign has helped themselves. They appropriated the League of Conservation Voters’ logo as well as the trademark of the American Association of Retired Persons (AARP) according to KVAL.
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Someone else we know uses it the most vile ways ever and has for a long time.
Sue the communist son of a bitch!!
Oh, give it a rest. If they don’t comply after the C&D, then by all means. Also, what is your definition of communism?
Well, they didn’t comply, which led to a second C&D. So no need to “give it a rest”. He should have gotten his leftist, progressive, socialist ass sued off.
But he is on the left side so he’ll get a pass on everything,, won’t he? Don’t bother to answer. I already know.
If they don’t comply? You mean like they didn’t after the first C&D order?
Well, according to Bernie the Commie all property belongs to the state and is collectively owned. So he’s just giving us a preview of how the USG will operate after he’s elected.
In plain language: he’ll do whatever he damn well pleases. The law and it’s silly concept of property rights will be merely a petty annoyance to be ignored. Whatever betters the Collective, that shall be done. “From each according to his ability; to each according to his need!”
But you know Tovarisch Sanders’s personally-owned property will be exempt from collectivization, in practice if not in name. Par for the course with his ilk.
It’s no shock that he is Lars’ candidate, now is it.
Bernie is not a communist and that is not an accurate description of Bernie’s position on private property.
Oh, well do explain it to us heathens, Lars. Because ol Bernie has got the love of the Communist Party of America and I can see them doing that if he wasn’t one of them.
The communist party in America is an irrelevant and impotent organization. At the national level it always supports the most viable left-most candidate. It has no chance of any elections anywhere except in a few local elections.
I would be happy to go into a lengthy explanation of Communism, socialism, and Bernie’s form of social democracy (also called “market socialism”). They are al very, very, different things.
But wouldn’t it just lead to a bunch of arguments, people telling me to “shut the fuck up”, and whining about thread jacking?
You don’t know me, Commissar.
No, he does not. But he does know irrelevant and impotent!
I do not believe they are all “VERY DIFFERENT” of each other.
The goal of Socialism is Communism, history proves it.
or the inevitable result of attempted Communism is totalitarian Socialism
Having lived in the state Bernie carpetbagged his way into and watched him become Mayor of Burlington then onward and upward let me educate you. The only reason Bernie ran as a Socialist was because he knew a Communist would never get elected in the state. He was quite candid about that at the time.
One thing about Bernie, though. I have met him several times and the last at a local VFW he was talking at. He always supported our Vets. I disagree with him on everything else.
Funny HE says he is? WTF are you?
So now, in addition to redistribution of wealth (other people’s), he’s into redistribution of intellectual property! Makes perfect sense!
It’s all communal property, man . . . ya dig?
AARP? Their logo is being stolen by a candidate more right-leaning than they are?
“The seal is trademarked and protected against unauthorized use by the US Code”.
What?
You mean you can’t just use it, like in your web sites and stuff like that …
I can think of a few other websites that illegally use copyrighted images. One is an illiterate (can’t read a fuel gauge) incompetent attorney, the other sells software to the federal government.
Yeah,that son of a bitch has been sending ME, CRAP about Retired Navy Seal Shipley, his standup wife Diane with crap nobody gives a ratsass about. It just pisses me off the things that are said. A picture of Shipleys video where he’s talking and the shit redid the video and it says Jacking Off. The mindless prick is all alone…so sad, too bad..
Bernie the socialist is a terrible choice, okay I don’t disagree. Now that we’ve cleared that up. Which one of these lying sacks of shit is going to be guy who actually gets the US building product again? Does anyone know the top five or top ten or top twenty employers in the nation who aren’t the government and what that actually means for the economy? 1 Wal-Mart Stores 2,200,000 2 Yum! Brands 523,000 3 McDonald’s 440,000 4 United Parcel Service 399,010 5 IBM 379,592 6 Kroger 375,000 7 Target 361,000 8 The Home Depot 340,000 9 Hewlett-Packard 331,800 10 General Electric 305,000 12 Sears Holdings 293,000 13 Bank of America 281,791 14 Berkshire Hathaway 270,858 15 Citigroup 266,000 16 Wells Fargo 264,200 17 JPMorgan Chase 260,157 18 AT&T 256,420 19 FedEx 255,573 20 Walgreens 211,500 21 General Motors 220,000 It’s no longer a list heavy with manufacturers. In fact it’s a list of mostly service sector companies, retailers, logistical outfits, some financials…and how many heavy manufacturers in that list that still make product ? But we keep electing those who are beholden to the 1% thinking it’s going to change. Who here can explain how that’s going to happen when none of these assholes can even outline a plan to bring jobs to America? Cruz and Rubio talk a great game about being against immigration now when they were okay with some options before but where’s the meat and potatoes of their economic plan? The Donald wants to make America great again? How? He’s a bit less clear on that concept. We keep making our economy look more and more like a third world nation, just on steroids because of our size, and less like the US economy where the middle class had an abundance of opportunity to make a decent living at a single manufacturing job. When we became nothing more than a nation of shopkeepers selling each other trinkets the lack of wealth will be a lot more obvious than it is already. The amazing thing to me is that so many people think electing even more… Read more »
The lesser of all evils. Unfortunately it’s difficult to determine since every one of them ranks at the bottom in notions of believable promises. Seldom listen to the opinions of others in fear they are self-serving, so may just end up throwing a dart at the board this year. Either that or get a zoo chimp to place his hand on a picture. Now there’s a SURE bet!
The problem is that the lesser of all evils is still evil.
VOV, I’m with you on the closing statement. It comes down to which one won’t screw me/stink the least.
Top employer in the world per a report a while back was DoD, with almost 3 million civilian and military. Of the top three civilian employers, #s 1 and 2 were unsurprisingly enough Wally World and Micky D’s. The third, with 1.2 million employees WW, is the company who makes iPhones, Macs, and many of the consumer electronics – Foxconn (aka Hon Hai), a Taiwanese headquartered company with more locations WW than you can shake a stick at. Want a robust American economy? Be willing to pay more to get all your Chinese-made toys made here. Otherwise…. the companies who market ’em will continue to chase the cheapest manufacturing so they can whore the products out to the folks who demand it – us. Want to know who has truly screwed the American economy? Collectively – look in a mirror.
^^^^^ this.
Amen, sir.
Bernie’s campaign is extremely distributed and reliant on thousands of volunteers that have no previous experience in political action.
These unauthorized uses are on fliers, not mailers. And are likely caused by people not knowing the rules. Most flier supporting Bernie are locally made.
I have know the people in my area that are volunteering to do this kind of political support for Bernie. Most are over 50, well meaning, conscientious, and more than a little bit idealistic.
They literally pass a hat among a small group to collect the funds for these kinds of political fliers and design and make them themselves.
With thousands of volunteers making countless home made fliers this kind of stuff is bound to happen. And since the campaign is highly distributed and most of those volunteering to help campaign are not actually embedded in Bernie’s political organization directly it is difficult for his campaign management team to reach and and communicate clear instructions outside of email and his website.
The two cease and desist orders are two different incidence within a very short time of each other. Not exactly indicative of Bernie refusing to take action and thus having to be “told twice.”
Hear that guys? They just “pass the hat”, no support from big money at all.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=77s1YAg1QsU
I wonder, Lars, if you would accept such an innocent explanation from the campaign of a Republican candidate? Somehow I think you’d likely be making a bigger issue out of it.
(But, hey, thanks for cluing me in on what the latest lefty talking point is-dominionist, that’s a new one for me).
All it would take is a conference call or two, to those naive, er, idealistic people who are ignorant of the greatness of communism, uh, socialism.
Ok, so you are a lawyer for the Bernie campaign. You are handed a copy of a flier and a cease and desist letter.
There are thousands of volunteers nationwide supporting you candidate on their own initiative. Thousands are on your volunteer lists but thousands more are simply out there supporting a candidate they want to see become president.
You do not know who made the flier, only the city in which the flier was found.
Who do you call up for the conference call?
“Babble, babble, babble, everyone else is wrong…” Says the lemming-like minion.
Get off the computer, its your turn to drive and you owe two hours to GROG for scratching his Harley when we were playing catch the coconuts…
Regional coordinators (look at me assuming that even Bernie can have a professionally run campaign). Tell them to track this issue down and put a stop to it. Or just blast it out on social media-my expectations of competence are pretty low for lefties, but I think they could manage that.
They are, but but Bernie has more volunteers than any other candidate. And in many markets where Bernie volunteers are already handing out fliers there are no established regional coordinators because Bernie has not even began campaigning in those markets.
Thousands of people are supporting him on their own initiative and are not “officially” volunteering through the website.
Bernie is running as professional a campaign as he can given the way the party intentionally makes it difficult for non-establishment candidates to function in the process.
But, he really is a grass roots candidate and as such he has thousands of amateurs stumping for him on their own initiative.
And the more “professional” you expectation of a campaign the more likely you will only support an establishment candidate. The Cruz campaign is a joke. Trump? Are you pretending his is professional? Carson?
Even Rubio looks like am Amateur at this point.
The only two truly “professional” campaigns are Hillary and Bush.
It is nonsense to try to find some excuse to condemn Bernie for these fliers.
In your mind either he has condoned this or he is incompetent for not knowing it happened and stopping it immediately.
You just do not like him as a candidate and are going to interpret whatever he or is supporters do in such a way that is supports your negative opinion of him.
Would anything I say make a difference?
I usually stay out of these pissing contests because they degrade so fast but the use of a copyrighted image is right up my alley.
Lars says that the flyers happened relatively close together. In today’s age of communications, three weeks is almost an eternity.
If you have the city and the event, you can email local people on the ground and say “stop it.” You can also send out emails to coordinators saying “don’t use the seal.” That may have happened, but there is no indication that it did.
Furthermore, in most states such flyers must have who sent them out. If Sanders didn’t pay for them, they are still considered “in kind contributions” and must be reported as a campaign contribution.
You can claim that the Sanders campaign had no direct knowledge of the flyers, but that begs two questions: 1) Why would the image be on the flyers to begin with? ie who approved them or said they should be on there and 2) Some person supporting Sanders knowingly lied about Sanders in order to gain more support?
The moment the Sanders campaign got the first letter, they should have sent an email blast to everyone saying “don’t use that image.” It appears they didn’t while a minor issue, the theft and non-approved usage of a intellectual property never looks good.
Adding mind reading to your resume Lars? All I’m doing is refusing to buy your excuse making for your mancrush and his legion of fanboys. Whether he is able to “put an end to it immediately” or not is beside the point. The point is that he is obligated to take some action to put a stop to it, and the actions I described are certainly within the realm of acceptable actions his campaign could take. As I have said before, no one here is buying what you’re selling.
Yeah, one of those “volunteers” came banging on my door at 9 PM on a Saturday night.
Stupid doesn’t even begin to cover it.
You don’t know me, Commissar.
Well, that just gave me the warm and fuzzies, Lars. Tell me, could you name three Democratic Socialist heads of state that were/are successful in governing? If so, how did they achieve it? I seriously doubt they were “passing the hat”.
There generally no need to pass the hat if there is not so much financial influence and corruption in the election process. Campaigns in other countries are a fraction of the cost of the US. There is usually limits on lengths and spending for campaigns. Also, often there is equal access rules with respect to the number, length, frequency, and time slots of camping commercials.
The parliamentary systems most other democracies have eliminates the high cost “winner take all” politics in America.
Finally, in social democracies there is different public support for market socialism so there is less need for grass roots movements since the ideological premise of market socialism is already a mainstream and a generally centrist political position.
Here are a few social democracies countries.
Denmark
Finland
Netherlands
Sweden
Norway
New Zealand
Belgium
Arguably Canada. Canada is primarily a market socialist country.
Even though the current liberal party is regarded as “centrist” in the Canadian political spectrum, the “liberal party” is essentially in line with Bernie policies:
Here are the Canadian Liberal party’s core policy positions:
Universal health care,
Canada Pension Plan
Canada Student Loans
Peacekeeping
Multilateralism
entrenchment of Canada’s Charter of Rights and Freedoms
making same-sex marriage legal.
They do not have the campaign finance issues of the US, and they do not have the parasitic financial regime and capture of the government by finance like the the US so the absence of those issues in their policy platform differs from Bernie because there is no need to address those structural problems in Canada.
Venezuela adopted socialism and look at what great shape THAT country is in! Taxes are also sky-high in the countries you mention, you fail yet again.
Yeah. For some reason Taylor ignored Venezuela and Cuba – the two most
CommunistSocialist nations in this hemisphere. Wonder why?Because they do not apply to market socialism or social democracies.
That is why I ignored them.
Cuba is closest to a country that has survived socialism. They do not have actual socialism (too much government in Cuba) but it is closer than most have come.
If it were not for a black market providing some price discovery and some impulse for productivity it likely would have collapsed.
Market socialism and social democracy preserve the free market. Cuba capitalism did not.
Have you ever lived in any of these Socialist countries? Have you ever talked to someone from one of these countries, and had them tell you about how great life is there? The reason their system works as well as it does, is because they are mostly homogenous societies, with populations that generally have strong work ethic and obey the laws of their country. That and a high suicide rate.
And now with them opening their borders, arms, and legs to “refugees”, see how well that isn’t working?
All that and the fact that their combined populations are about the same as California plus Texas. Lars just assumes that what “works” (I admit nothing, just saying for the sake of argument) for nations of about 7 million or so is scalable to a nation of 320 million.
(Leaving aside the breathtaking corruption in our political classes)
Lars, if you WANT Socialism so bad then MOVE TO a socialist country!
I’m sure there are plenty of people here that will not only help you pack, a number of us will help you purchase a one way ticket there.
Socialism and market socialism are not the same. Market socialism is closer to supply side capitalism than it is to “socialism”. Market socialism preserves a free market and used the market and its price discovery mechanism for the distributions of all the things best distributed by the market, which is almost all consumer good and services. Capitalism has failed every time nations have tried to push to close it. Just as socialism has failed every time a nation has pushed to close to it (because the price discovery of the market is vital in the distribution of most consumer goods and encouraging production). The market is terrible at dealing with things like national defense, emergency medical services, fire services, health care, law enforcement, education, the externalities of solution, political candidates and process, morality, criminal law and prosecution For examples in caring for the elderly or the invalid, and the structurally unemployed the market says let them starve to death because their productivity or skills no longer have sufficient value to sustain them. Adam Smith specifically talks about a labor surplus leading to increase deaths of the least productive laborers (children, the elderly, lazy, poorly skilled, and the sick) due to inability to acquire sufficient wages to sustain them or their families and through the increase in deaths the labor surplus will correct itself. This is capitalism. Market socialism says provide for retraining and education so those structurally unemployed can re-enter the market with updated skills. Like the GI bill for veterans who had become structurally unemployed after serving our nation and the need for their service ended. The GI bill is socialist. As is the most of the nature of support and compensation programs for military service in the US. I do not think Americans truly understand how much capitalism is essentially social darwinism mixed with a kind of ulitilty math that does not give two shits about people. Once you have no market value there is no longer market reason for you to live and your existence is negative social utility. Unless someone else cares enough for you to… Read more »
Bullsh!t.
Capitalism has worked here for a couple of hundred years. Socialism seems to last in a country for less than 100 before going tits-up.
And as for the elderly and invalid,, or insurance system was not perfect, but it worked pretty damn well. A lot better than the bullshit ACA sis doing now. That means that if a person worked and payed for insurance ( medical, short and long term disability, etc) they were going to be ok. Also consider that it is more of a responsibility of their families, communities, churches, etc to help take care of them than it is for the federal government, and they are usually better cared for at the local level. But the $600.00 a month Social security check is just too easy.
You can claim a difference between all of the different types of socialism if you want, but all of them boil down to the government taking from “me” to give to “you”. Sorry, but you get your ass out of bed at 0400HRS every morning and go get your own, like I do.
Again,,,, Bullsh!t
Fat fingered my own name! “Blaster”
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There goes Lars again…
Discussing and defending an issue he has no clue of.
Comparing the United States with tiny socialist Euro countries is a laff riot, Lars. They wouldn’t exist without the US/NATO blanket, and they know it. As for the rest of your Canada crap, who the fuck cares? More socialist bullshit that someone else has to pay for. Remember The Iron Lady, Maggie Thatcher? “The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other peoples’ money.”
Doesn’t matter, AW1Ed; Bernie fans are convinced that communism will work because they are the “correct” people who will run it in the perfect way that has never been tried.
“We are the ones we’ve been waiting for.”
No it is not. That is a bullshit claim used to dismiss the notion that we could have a social democracy.
Maggie’s soundbite is irrelevant. Political soundbites are not facts and are not evidence.
Thatcher’s policies were a mixed bag. Had some successes but resulted in some major failures.
Return of mass unemployment was a failure. Two recessions. A credit bubble and credit crisis. The massive transfer of public wealth to select private interests for pennies on the dollar (pound) essentially a massive theft of public lands and property.
Her policies sparked an exponential growth in government spending as many government services and government consumption became privatized and despite the claim it would make government services cheaper it dramatically increased the costs to the government. (We have seen a similar effect here as well.)
Eventually her policies began to stress their economy and stability and the UK shifted back. Like us they are more capitalist than other industrial democracies. But they are still more social democracy than we are.
Holy shit, a circular straw man! I stand impressed.
Taste this:
“Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is
the equal sharing of misery.”
– Winston Churchill
To borrow from a friend of mine: “Marxism is intellectualism for stupid people.”
“Liberalism is intellectual laziness.” – Unknown
“Karl Marx was right, socialism works, it is just that he had the wrong species”
Edward O. Wilson “The Ants”
Universal health care?
So, everyone gets government-run health care?
So, everyone get’s the same health care that Vets have been getting?
If Government was capable of issuing health care then there would have been NO NEED for 0bamacare, what was Medicare and Medicaid supposed to be for?
Remember, two crooks who defrauded their way to $400K in “moving expenses” can’t be fired (or even demoted) because others have been just as corrupt and weren’t punished.
But we’re supposed to empower these same sorts to make all health care decisions for the entire nation.
Lar’s mentions countries that have populations less than most of our large cities. Even Canada’s population is less than that of California.
So, socialism MIGHT work when you essentially live down the street from your President, but that’s the thing with the US – we are a diverse group of people who do not have the exact same social, cultural or economic makeup.
We are 50 individual states who have agreed to work together and what has been fucking it all up is the one-size-fits-all attitude from the Federal government, an attitude that is made worse when it comes from a bunch of damn socialists!
But in Lar’s world these places are better because they spend less on elections – yeah, because they are 50 times smaller than we are, I would hope to high heaven they would spend less!
Oh, and Bernie’s campaign is just a bunch of like minded people who are just running nilly-willy all over the place without any central command. Wow, that really inspires me, what leadership skills Bernie has that his campaign is essentially set on “clusterfuck”
Western Europe is way different than America. Kings and Queens that actually help their citizens. In the Netherlands the Euro/money has a braille number for blind people. Taxes are weird and every five years they give you money to redecorate the house your renting…then you own it it after twenty years. Here we get taxed to death….
This isn’t Sanders’ fault.
The email fiasco is not Clintons fault,
Nothing is 0bama’s fault.
BUT everything is Bush’s fault even after 7 years???.
Riiiggghhhttt!
“The GI bill is socialist. As is the most of the nature of support and compensation programs for military service in the US.”
Balderdash…the GI bill is a benefit. You don’t get it because you fell out of a vagina on US soil, you get by contributing your own money and serving honorable for a predetermined period of time.
The other things you mentioned in connection with military service are also benefits of the job. They are what softens the arduous nature of military service.
The only thing socialist about it is that the payment is derived from taxpayer money. It is however, different than socialism.
It is socialist. The market did not owe service members anything and if the market had spoken they would have received nothing.
Socialism is about the just distribution of BENEFITS. It is intended to ensure that those that produce and those that provide services are justly compensated. Something that does not actually happen in pure capitalism.
“To each according to their ability and their CONTRIBUTION”
That is the central tenet of socialism.
The GI Bill is socialist.
Market shmarket the members had a choice to agree or disagree to the benefits being offered by the employer in relation to the contract they volunteered to sign.
The very same choice I had when deciding whether or not to work for a private company as far as benefits go.
The market in the case of the military is negotiating pay and benefits packages that entice people to serve voluntarily and additionally formulate incentives to get them to reenlist and it ebbs and flows with the supply and demand.
That is not why the GI Bill was passed. It was passed late int he war. People who were serving did not serve with any expectation that it was their market compensation for their service. A significant number were draftees.
It was designed to prepare for the potential problem of structural unemployment and social adjustment and transition the massive demobilization would generate. In fact the original GI bill that Roosevelt proposed and supported was not just for veterans it was to provide a means of support for the poor and civilian unemployed. In fact he anticipated a lot of civilians being pushed out of work due to the reduction of wartime production and the fact that on average the soldiers were more fit than their civilian counterparts in in many industries would displace them.
The final negotiated and approved bill was just for veterans but the reasoning for the initiative in the first place was absolutely socialism. In fact it was arguably a social market theory and many of the post War War II programs contributed to the political economic structures that led many European nations to become social market democracies.
I’m talking real time LT.
IDC Sarc, you are trying to talk bidness with someone who does not know anything about bidness.
The GI Bill is/was a scholarship benefit, a part of an employment contract with the military . While I was not required to pay into it when I enlisted, that has changed and people now pay into it and expect to receive those scholarship benefits from the money they put into that savings program.
I do not understand how someone who has probably gotten a large number of grants and scholarships for his life in academia can fail to understand that simple fact. It is a scholarship program. In the current version, it’s an education savings fund for future use. How hard is that to understand?
A ROTC scholarship is just that: a scholarship, with a contract that requires X years of service when college is completed.
It is amazing that someone who is, in reality, sponging off the tax payers by getting grants and/or gov’t loans and/or scholarships doesn’t understand that.
Yeah, trout-sniffer, I’m talking about you. It isn’t socialism. If it’s a loan, you have to pay it back. If it’s a grant or a scholarship, you don’t. It is not socialism, you jackass, any more than is setting up a college fund through a 529 Plan.
You really do make some stupid statements, poodledick, but so far, you are outstripping yourself in sheer ignorance today.
It seems that the left is attempting to qtKe all the “good” concepts of our capitalist government and hang the name market socialism on them in order to make them fit into their new utopian leftist bullshit government.
With the fundamental change to our great country, they can’t have any of the old slide over into the new.
ROLMAO,…
My retirement stipend and medical are earned benefits, contractually agreed to for service to my country, hard earned, and not a social construct of “entitlements” with any market.
Nothing socialist about it.
Sorry buddy. The structure and justification for the compensation for you military service has a lot do with socialist political economic theory.
It is now part of our “capitalist” economy but our economy is not pure capitalist and the GI Bill and other social benefit packages for public service are socialist policies.
OK….obviously this is just another filibuster.lol
So you can’t differentiate between “earned benefit” and “social entitlement.”
Gotch’a “buddy.”
Commissar doesn’t know me.
Hey Jack, I hate to bring this up, but we ALL have black sheep of the family in every family tree. So the question is, By any chance could Lars be that sheep with at least some of your D N A and actually have been named Fulla at birth?
I heard rumor that I had a Cousin by that name that was adopted by liberal stank-ass hippies.
Did he by any chance recently go to college in California?
Lars, thou fuck thine self every hour thou post hither by parading thine blithering idiocy for all to survey. Ye hast gone worn-forth pith square a want-wit, thou hast proven thine self to be little more than a blithering brainish minion with naught wit of his palate. Ye hast NO factor or wits of thine palate, thou merely regurgitate what thine marxist professors deliver thou, thou art merely an annoying little poodle bung.
You are singularly brilliant.
Socialism is about the distribution of WEALTH. Taking from some and giving to others. It has never worked and never will work.
From the earliest settlements here in America it was an abject failure and led to the collapse of a number of settlements, but dickheads like you keep saying “Well, it just wasn’t done right that time. Let’s give it another chance!”
The GI bill is EARNED. And just like in Capitalism, you produce and you earn. Socialism says – you produce and the state will take it to give to everyone else. Thank you for your production, comrade.
Oh, and you have your quote wrong, as usual. It is “FROM each according to his ABILITY, to each according to his NEED”
That says nothing about you getting more because you contributed more.
Oh, and here’s the full quote for you. Please tell me how this protects our individual right to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness.
Emphasis is mine:
“In a higher phase of communist society, after the ENSLAVING SUBORDINATION of the INDIVIDUAL to the division of labor, and therewith also the antithesis between mental and physical labor, has vanished; after labor has become not only a means of life but life’s prime want; after the productive forces have also increased with the all-around development of the individual, and all the springs of co-operative wealth flow more abundantly—only then can the narrow horizon of bourgeois right be crossed in its entirety and society inscribe on its banners: From each according to his ability, to each according to his needs!”
That last sentence only applies if you aren’t a Jew in a Communist country. Ask Nicki.
Actually, IDC SARC, I’d categorize the GI Bill and many other VA bennies as a form of deferred compensation vice government lagresse (AKA income transfer).
One can also argue that VA medical care and disability compensation for service-connected conditions are a form of workman’s comp vice lagresse. Both are IMO way out-of-control and horribly abused at present, but they still IMO constitute a form of workman’s comp.
I would also say that a few VA bennies are indeed pure income transfer or benefits in kind that should be considered government lagresse. Examples would be Aid and Assistance payments, long-term living assistance, and veterans and survivors pensions. Arguably, so is VA medical care for non-service-connected conditions.
Just my $0.02 worth.
That way of looking at it certainly has some validity. Interesting point of view.
Shhhhh…kids…let’s hear One Trick Pony explain away the Bonus Army.
The GI Bill was a direct result of the failures that caused the bonus army. Roosevelt explicitly did not want to repeat that mistake. He also wanted to it to provide for poor and structurally unemployed civilians but that part did not make the final draft.
So basically what you’re saying is promises made by a neo-socialist president (Wilson) can be broken by anyone down the road, and some other President can break any other promise made to veterans or any other group based upon the “greater good”.
Or just because they get a bug up their asses.
“He’s a one trick pony….”
He’s more like a donkey show.
You mean like the Donkey Show at “Boy’s Town” that I heard tales about in in Nuevo Laredo, Mexico during my days as a Trucker? ?
That story about the donkey is a tail. We went to our pad past Ensenada during a full Sumner and the guys followed a group of guys who swore it was true. After the third month of hanging out with them, they admitted that its just another story passed by drunks…but last summer at a LA ranch a wrangler caught a guy raping a horse. The vet came out to check out the horse and it had a STD. The poster with the suspects face via a artist looked like the fella we all dislike
Or the one reputed to have been in Cijudad Juarez? Or Tijuana? (smile)
Well, kids, lest we forget, the internet is one of those places which potential employers use as a tool to find out how someone behaves, when the job application is submitted. As we all know, the resume is not enough any more. We’ve all seen firsthand how misbehavior posted some place on the internet can turn someone into a liability to a business, whether for profit or not-for-profit.
It does not necessarily have to be social media, either. It can simply show up in something as dumb as a college spring break video like ‘Girls Gone Wild’. You get drunk and strip on camera, and your future employers will see that as someone with no self control. Act like a pompous know-it-all who scorns the very people he addresses and who has his pompous ass handed to him, and you’re seen as someone who has poor social skills at best.
Employers now scour the internet looking for behavior that is unsociable, anti-social, addictive (e.g., DUI arrests), stultifyingly stupid and even indicative of an unwillingness to consider or acknowledge the validity of input from other people.
That’s a good enough reason to use pseudonyms when posting online. If your employer or supervisor knew what you really think of him or her, you might be out of a job within a week.
So, Lars, you trout-sniffing, pseudointellectual pompous-assed twigdick, the more you run your silly mouth on this blog and the more you make it plain that you think you are superior to all the rest of us, the less likely you are to get hired by any employer. All you want to do in a social setting is pick fights. A blog with comments allowed, like this one, is in essence a social setting. You can’t manage anything other than smug, self-serving, I’m-always-right-because-LARRZZZ! baloney. You refuse to consider that anyone else’s opinion may be valid. ONLY YOU have the right to be correct. In a department conference, that is NOT an asset.
Any job offers yet, poodle?
Would you like fries with that?
I don’t think that Lars would last in any job other than as a Government bureaucrat and we all KNOW just how intellectual and competent the vast majority of them are!
Oh, I doubt he’d even fit in there, Proud.
Meh, those things work under the protection of the AFGE (ASSociation of Federal Government Employees), basically a Labor Union for USG “Vogs”!
The problem is that every bureaucrat has supervisors whose arses require kissing, and whose egos demand constant massaging. Trying to imagine our pet troll doing that is hilarious. He’d be so screwed. Even “working” for someone with whom he agrees philosophically, he would not last long and would likely succumb to market forces.
Very perceptive, OWB. I concur completely.
Ah, he is Berkley trained. This is his job.
BINGO!! Academia is a perfect fit. More likely than not in the field of Political Science, where brain-bleaching our children and indoctrinating the next generation into the philosophy of Karl Marx is right up his alley.
Building a resume for elected office..
I don’t use my real name on the internet. You can’t hide from nuts, BUT WE’RE DOING A DAMN GOOD JOB BECAUSE WE ALL HAVE BEEN MISIDENTIFED as women/men/teens/dog/cat/rat and mouse. PEEK A BOO! I SEE YOU ?
After listening to Bernie tonight giving his victory speech, I predict that he won’t live out the week. After promising free shit to every conceivable liberal voting block, he excoriated the rich bankers, the rich pharma firms, the rich wall street “Speculators”, and promised to tax them back to the stone age. I see an assassination in his near future.
Let me see if I understand his philosophy correctly.
He wants a $15/hr minimum wage.
He wants to tax employers, who will pay that hourly wage, out of business. Not only will they be unable to make a profit which lets them expand and grow and hire more people, they will also be shutting their doors and boarding up their businesses in a heartbeat.
Oh! I get it now! It’s the model for the destruction of the jobs deserts known as Gary, Indiana, and Detroit, Michigan.
Yeah, that makes sense.
Headline on Drudge:
*SANDERS 59% CLINTON 39%
*TRUMP 34 KASICH 16% CRUZ 12% BUSH 11%
Part of me likes Cruz, but I hope it’s true about that has-been freeze dried hippie Bern-out stomping Das Hildebeast, that thing deserves it after taking Iowa by less than 1% after ‘winning” SIX coin tosses.
You mean shrillary hasn’t disputed the results? What’s wrong with her?
She’s probably still in a private meeting with Lucifer over the exact terms her her contract and what constitutes “public service.” See, apparently, in the fine print, “community service” is a form of “public service.” And an orange jumpsuit is kind of a pantsuit.
I wouldn’t be surprised if it turns out she’s enlisted the help of the ACLU to sue Satan in order to renegotiate the contract she sold her soul to him with.
I don’t care WHAT kind of “service” you call it, I would NEVER want to be “serviced” by Cankles.
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http://www.snopes.com/bernie-sanders-essay/
Interesting link to something Bernie wrote.