Weekend Open Thread
I thought that was a pretty cool picture for the weekend, but that jumper needs to keep his feet and knees together. I snagged it from a pretty cool collection of military photos. Every picture reminds me of how great military service was, and how someone who hasn’t served missed out on a lot of stuff that they don’t even understand.
Category: Open thread
The TAH womin would rather have a pix of the SMA. Bet he’d get all the samichs he wanted.
I can imagine this being any *one* of the lionesses of TAH. (Kinda NSFW)
http://static.fjcdn.com/pictures/He_047faf_2815935.jpg
/please don’t hurt me. I have a bad back. 😀
I love it! I sent it to my mom and my best friend.
As much as I enjoy the mere sight of any good-lookin’ guy, and may think it is SO unfair that they’re 30 and I’m Ma’s age, I have no interest in making snide remarks about the aging and sagging and all that other stuff that accompanies us through life.
So I don’t give a shit what you look like, you’re stil good guys.
sj…Did you say Sammiches? *NSFW*
http://static.wixstatic.com/media/b0bc8d_70227d7cba68473a9ee81fa63e372d4c.jpg?dn=Sandwich_Making_For.jpg
Not funny.
clamsgotlegs…Sorry, upon reflection it is not as humorous as I thought.
I found it funny in spite of the fact that I love and respect the hell out of women.. my wife, daughters, numerous sisters, female co-workers, etc.
I would die for any of ’em.
So don’t worry, it’s funny Sparks. One of the beauties of this blog is that we don’t have to be PC. The easily-offended (looking at you, clamsgotlegs) probably shouldn’t be here.
Actually, I am not easily offended.
However, I will make an exception for you.
I’m sorry, Sparks. You are a fail at this station.
Oh, we’d make sure you got all the sammiches you wanted! Now whether you’d be in any kind of shape to eat them when we were done with you would be open to question.
RAAAAWRRRR!!!!
LOL, this one is for you Pinto Nag
http://www.memes.com/img/216869
SNAP TO A GOOD, TIGHT BODY POSITION, AIRBORNE!
Sorry, guys. Anything higher than a horse’s back is too high for me. And why anybody would want to jump out of a perfectly good airplane….
*scurries for cover*
Pinto,
And why anybody would want to jump out of a perfectly good airplane….
Obviously, you’ve never flown in a C-130!
C119
SH-2F
Yeah … I’ve heard about the C-119 Flying Boxcar from “old timers.”
Having grown up as an “Army brat” at Fort Bragg, North Carolina, our family watched many of the jumps from C-119 “Flying Boxcar” aircraft, and on Armed Forces Day, would walk through those planes at Pope Air Force Base.
We also saw the paratroopers and C-119 aircraft when we lived at Ashiya Air Force Base on the island of Kyushu, in Japan.
By the time I was grown, the C-119 had been replaced by the C-130 “Hercules”.
I can remember Flying Boxcars flying on LI stacked up waiting to land at the old Mitchel Field during the mid 50’s.
Some of the old runway is still there.
I’m offended! Just pushed the Red Button.
Nah, not really. Impressed that you young wihppersnappers know what a 119 is/was.
Now, excuse me whilst I work on a selfie that will get the TAH Lionesses mind off the SMA.
When I was attending the Field Radio Relay and Carrier Equipment Operator (MOS 31M20) course at Fort Gordon, Georgia, the unit next to ours was an Airborne Infantry A.I.T. course, and they would go to Jump School AFTER completing the Advanced Infantry Training.
During their training at Fort Gordon, they practiced on a stripped out, grounded C-119, plus they had the wooden platforms for practicing PLFs.
Watching them and copying what they did is how I learned to do a PLF, except I never had to do it for real.
Anyway, maybe they did jump from C-119s at Fort Benning in 1968.
I don’t reckon it would’ve been for much longer, as the C-130 “Hercules” and the C-141 “Starlifter” became the Airborne carriers during my time in the Army.
I flew on both of those aircraft quite a number of times as a “Military Hop” passenger.
We were at Bragg in 64-68 and don’t recall ever seeing a C-119. I seem to recall seeing C-141s at Pope.
Then again, I wasn’t really paying attention.
C123
Specifically, a C-130A. Yes, I’ve flown in one – once.
We diverted for repairs en route to our destination. Took us 2 or 3 days to get there. (smile)
They’ve also obviously never taken off in a C-123. Sh!t, you want to jump out of that plane just to get the hell out of there!
The C-123 “Provider” flew over us numerous times in Viet Nam spraying chemicals.
I thought it was DDT for mosquitoes, but others surmised it was Agent Orange.
It was in the water we showered with, for the shower was an open rubber container, with an immersion heater, on top of a wooden frame.
Honestly, I hated that shower, and preferred to stand naked in the Monsoon rain.
I hated the outhouse, too, because of the black widow spiders hiding under the opening, and preferred the bushes – – – , still do, as a matter of fact.
I don’t remember if the “Chieu Hoi” leaflets were dropped from helicopters or C-123s.
But, I made certain to pick a few from the ground for souvenirs.
Mox nix.
I got $5,000.00 from the class action lawsuit against the chemical companies for being exposed to Agent Orange.
But, the VA says I didn’t get contaminated by Agent Orange, and if I did, it’s harmless.
However, on my next trip to the VA Hospital, I was amused to see “AGENT ORANGE” in big letters on the outside of my medical folder!
Jumped a 123 numerous times at Benning while straphanging with the Pathfinder Committee. The C123 was originally designed to be a glider. They put engines on it…then had jato added as well.
Jumpmastered a DC3 at Camp Mackall AAF once!
Hondo:you flew in an “A” model?
You just carbon-dated yourself.
My first 10 jumps were from C-119, C-123, and C-124 aircraft. It was my 11th jump that put me in a Turbo prop, C-130. Biggest problem with jumping the C-119 was that the jump doors were in the clamshell and closer together than if they had been in the sides of the aircraft. Jumpers from each stick could get very close together at exit.
Went through jump school at Benning in 1968. Just had to dig out the jump log which shows 5 qualifying jumps from a C-119. All on Fryar DZ on November 4th, 5th, twice on the 6th and a CE jump on the 7th.
$110/mo…esp when your base pay as an O1 was $222.30.
Never been on a perfectly good airplane, lots of Air Force Planes though.
Jumpers! Hit It!
True dat
Remember, these planes are all built by the lowest bidder, and usually have someone like Carl working on them…
They are NEVER “perfectly good”.
Its still gonna hurt.
I have one static line sport jump under my belt.
Yes, I said one!
That is all!
master Chief:
Weren’t you a SEAL?
I thought SEALs made lots of jumps.
By the way, in spite of being VERY proud of having served under fire with the 101st Airborne Division, I never made ANY jumps, unless you count helicopters, deuce and halfs, rappelling towers, and building roofs.
They SAID they were going to have us go through Jump School (the one in Viet Nam, not stateside), but that was just to scare us or get us excited.
Some guys in the 101st did jump in Viet Nam, or were kept on jump status, but not my unit.
I was not, never will be a SEAL!
I served in the community honorably (most of the time) for an extended peroid in Combat Support role.
Please don’t start bad rumors!
Don Shipley and I are on friendly terms, let’s endevour to keep it that way!
No, really … I jumped out of a plane once.
It scared me to near death … At the time I was certain I would die!
Sorry for the misunderstanding.
I inferred it because of the work you’re presently involved in.
It was just a wild guess.
Come on, brother. I love jumping. What’s there to be afraid of? If your main and reserve don’t open, aim for an expensive car so you get your funeral paid for. It’s not like you’re going to feel anything.
I’ve always heard getting troops to make the first jump was pretty easy.
The SECOND jump, not so much…
😉
John Wayne’s character said that in, “THE GREEN BERETS”.
In the movie, they jumped from a C-7 “Caribou”.
When I was in Viet Nam, I got to fly ONCE on a C-7 “Caribou” which was carrying mail from LZ English (at Bong Xon) to Chu Lai.
LZ English was base for 173d Airborne Brigade, and Chu Lai was headquarters for the Americal Division, i.e., the 23d Infantry Division.
It was neat!
Tailgating a C-7A was a nice jump. Ditto a C-130.
Better was Helo jumps at Bragg. SOP was an AF jump: for an 0900 drop time you had to be at the BN area at about 0400 to go through stuff. Then you went to Pope and did practice shit for hours on end. When you finally got on a 130/124/119/123 you flew at low level over the NC countryside in summer heat turbulence (or freezing ass cold) for an hour so the AF could get flight hours.
Plan B: you drive to the DZ in your POV and draw a chute. There’s a Huey. You get on board and the Huey goes straight in the air to about 1400 ft. You jump out and have a great ride to the ground…standing landing even. Then you get in your POV and go to the club. Block checked for a jump for pay purposes.
I don’t like jumping helecopters!
It seems it takes forever for the main to deploy … and you don’t get a “prop blast” to help.
I’ll take a 141 any day.
Yep, the “fun jumps” at St Mere-Eglise were the way to go if you could manage it. When I was at Bragg, they sometimes had C-7As supporting the jumps.
Good times.
The SECOND jump, not so much…
Parachuting came easy for me … my dad was a paratrooper in the 505 PIR, then 77th SFG; later in other SF groups. We went to Sicily DZ on Memorial Day, etc., to watch the jumps. Do they still do that?
I grew up at Benning and Bragg. The 250′ Towers are a fond childhood memory
I did the mock tower at Benning in 1958 and received a “Junior Paratrooper” certificate! They also used to put the old benches on the 250′ towers to take family members up.
I knew it was safe.
Fond memories!!
Are you and I the same age?
I just wonder if we knew each other when we were boys.
Hey John!
Wouldn’t that be a gas to find out that we ran around the polo field chasing lightening bugs together! Then running behind the mosquito fogger truck as it kicked out white clouds of poison … playing in the old deserted buildings near the old hospital ….
Etc., etc., etc.
Those old deserted buildings weren’t deserted when I was little.
My sisters and I had out tonsils and adnoids removed there.
Now, THAT’s a story!
http://writesong.blogspot.com/2014/11/evolution-of-surgery-and-anaesthesia.html
Didn’t I post that here at this web site just a little while back?
I also spent about a year at each of the following locations:
Ft. Reily
Ft. Carson
Ft. Polk
DLI, Monterey
Overseas
And multiple “deployments” to Benning and Bragg.
As an “Army brat”, I was only in three (03) military installations, i.e., Ashiya Air Force Base, Japan, Fort Bragg, North Carolina, and William Beaumont General Hospital in El Paso, Texas.
Well hell! Claim Master Blaster status! You’re clearly more qualified than the posers. s/
I’m more comfortable with Senior — not too many people question Senior wings like Master Blasters.
But of course I don’t qualify and would never do that!
AW1Ed: nope. After you’ve gone through all that crap and made it to jump week, you’re not about to leave without wings unless you get hurt.
Oh, I get it. Just all you danger rangers actually used parachutes.
And I was determined to get back into the aircraft from which I jumped.
😉
I’m with you Master Chief, one was enough for me too. I tested my manhood and made it to the ground without having to change my pants. Figured I would fly the planes, not jump out of them for fun.
Well, we won’t discuss the wisdom of jumping out of airplanes.
Or spending months underwater, etc.
Or crossing The Shit River bridge to visit our loved ones…
Nothing wrong with crossing that river.
Now throwing pesos to far from their boat so the little brown kids would have to dive for the prized peso … That was wrong!
We were told it was wrong to use a lighter to make the coins glow so we could track ’em?
At Clark, we didn’t have a Shit River, but we did have Friendship Hwy. I used to sit on the third floor of a local establishment and toss pesos out into the street. I’d make sure there was enough time for the kids between Jeepneys and trikes. One night, I whipped a 2 peso coin and it took a weird bounce. Came up off the ground and hopped through the open door of a sari-sari store across the street. Knocked the San Miguel out of paddy’s hand just as he went to drink from it.
Needless to say, we made a hasty retreat from the establishment.
That bridge was boarded up a lot of the time, then not. Now who would take those down?
Always started off at Via’s for tacos and lumpia, then to Magsaysay for another attempt at PI Bar Dice. The way we played it, first die was how many bars you went. Second was how many beers you had to have before rolling again.
Nobody ever made it to Victory Liner Circle, let alone back.
Some folks don’t get The Shit River reference. Good for them.
What happens in the PI stays in the PI.
Not totally true; I know of a few who have brought home the herpes.
Brand Glock 42 380 Auto added to tool box.
Nice, MCPO … but I still prefer the M1911-A1, and my Browning Hi-Power & Colt SAA.
Tried to pick up a desert eagle 357 at an auction last weekend but the bidding went out of my financial reach pretty quickly
If I owned any of them evil things one might be a Ruger LPC. In pictures it’s so cute, and looks like it could hide in a pocket.
.380 ammo looks to be complicated though, Auto and ACP?
ACP means automatic colt pistol.
.380 ACP include .380 Auto, 9mm Browning, 9mm Corto, 9mm Kurz, 9mm Short, 9×17mm and 9 mm Browning Court (which is the C.I.P. designation).
It is not to be confused with .38 ACP, 9mm Ultra, 9mm Makarov or 9mm Parabellum.
I was being facetious, but thanks.
A few year ago I picked up a very nice Glock in 9mm Luger from a buddy of mine. He said it would shoot one round and jam.
I got gun real cheap and went over it, I found nothing wrong, I shot 5 magazines with no problem.
About a week later he stopped in saying he had and almost full box of ammo and I could have it. He handed it to me and it was marked 9×17 . He had been trying to shoot .380 acp out of it
9×17 is for a Makarov.
Nice little gun too.
Mine was made in Germany and never jams, never.
It’s not a .380 though, it’s no wonder he was having problems. That ammo is smaller than a standard 9mm round.
I like the .45 ACP Double Stack Taurus.
Also never jams.
The 9mm will bounce off a skull if not directed right.
A .45 will leave a good sized hole in a skull, or anywhere it hits.
If you hit someone in the thumb they stand a pretty good chance of going down, they’ll come back up unless you take the opportunity to put a couple more rounds in them..
The .45 ACP is like the 9mm, but it’s for grown ups !!!
BWAHAHAHA !!!
Not just that, but the .45ACP has much better knockdown power, that’s why I prefer it for my Concealed Carry Weapon when I don’t carry my .357 Mag!
And I’mthe one that screwed up.I
9X17 is the .380 Automatic Colt Pistol…
Oops…
I’m glad nobody jumped on my ass about that mistake…
“ACP” automatic cycling pistol…John Browning invented it. Colt paid him for the licensing…
I have an FN M1900 that my dad gave me. His uncle gave it to him, they called it a “belly gun” because it could be easily concealed (flat on the sides).
http://www.militaryfactory.com/smallarms/detail.asp?smallarms_id=640
It was the first blowback semi-automatic pistol made and it was Browning’s first successful pistol design.
I’ve fired it with reasonably good groups. Nothing I’d depend on for self-defense, but fun to shoot.
My dad also gave me a Savage Model 1917 that a relative gave him. It seems “hard” to fire, in that it has a rather hard, almost violent recoil. Might be the ammo I was using.
If I hit the lottery, a 1911 is at the top of the wish list!
And you live in NY. I thought it bad juju to have a weapon north of VA…or on a military installation.
Some moron threatened to kill me and my family on 23 Dec 2014.
Based on information provided to federal, state, county and local authorities with jurisdiction, the issuance of such UNRESTRICTION permit for a certain family member was not questioned. I have held such permit and authority to carry for many years due to my military experience, former fed leo status and current occupatuion.
So if anyone shows up to commit “murder” of me and my family … Based on the articulated threat and our new tool box additions, the police report will be a short one.
I am driving home right now with a sweet ’70s era Winchester 9422 in .22WMR.
Winchester 9422 – 1
Pepe LePuew – 0
Splash out.
I have one of those, great rifle! It’s great for taking care of “Possums on the half shell” aka Armadillos.
Taking my brand new Kahr CW9 to the range tomorrow. With a Lasermax, errr, pointer, attached.
A way back in the ‘Seventies, I believe, when Military Police in the United States Army were still all (or mostly) male, and they were still armed with the Colt Model 1911 .45 semi-automatic pistol, there was an armed robbery at the main PX on Fort Hood, Texas.
There were two robbers, one with a .38, and the other with a 9mm.
They each shot the MP, who was hit by at least one bullet from each gun, and was down.
Lying on the floor, the MP used his .45 to shoot each of the robbers, killing them both.
When I was taking my Project Transition training with the 142d Military Police Company in Yong San Garrison, Seoul, Republic of Korea, one of the MPs, a tall, lean Black guy named “Cato”, who was a Black Belt master in Kung Fu, got into a shootout in I Tae Won with five Black guys.
Cato killed all five of them with his .45
If I remember correctly, Cato was court-martialed, found guilty, and fined one dollar.
It’s some sort of legal protection the Army uses when a soldier commits a justifiable homicide in the performance of his duty, to prevent double jeopardy.
For those who’ve never been to Seoul, Republic of Korea, “I Tae Won” is pronounced “EEE-TAY-WAHN”, and is a section of Seoul located outside the main gate of Yong San Army Garrison.
Stashed at various points throughout the house!
S&W 38 police special
Mauser 380 auto
Colt 1911 A1
Let the games begin!
Without specifics…
A 9mm semi-auto handgun and a 20″ bbl 12ga tactical shotgun.
That’s all I need. 😉
Oh, and one “fun” gun (.22 revolver, interchangeable LR and Magnum cylinders)
Woke plenty early to try to catch the eclipse. Looked west, saw nothing but clouds swallowing the moon, looked at the clock and wondered why it was blinking (outside power line failure), and went back to Land of Snoozing.
Did anyone manage to catch the eclipse, even a little? Next opportunities are in 2016. 🙁 Oh, well, c’est la vie.
Meantime, the Throne Royale has to be replaced because the tank cracked through and then the seat cracked where the tank sits on it. I know life is not easy, but this falls into ‘da dummer’ category.
Er, um… Eclipse is tomorrow:
We have four toilets here. Haven’t ran into that issue.
And an outhouse!
http://static.wixstatic.com/media/b0bc8d_ecaf682f6aaf421ba7f005a07d89c063.jpg?dn=This_Is_My_Happy_Place.jpg
And if all else fails, there’s always the outhouse.
EeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeKKKKK!
I think I inherited my mother’s ‘got the wrong date’ gene. She repeatedly gave me the wrong date for my grandma’s birthday.
Oh, well, I’ll go get some pizza, go to bed early again, check the stuff again, and see if I can get it right this time. But it’s clouding up and we’re supposed to have snow or rain or something unpleasant, so I do not hold out much hope.
I thought the eclipse was early SATURDAY morning.
OOPS!
Somebody else already said that.
My bad.
As I committed to doing, back when Jonn n Mark got “restrained”, I have just made my first month’s donation to the cause. 2.5 % of my monthly income is not much, but if others match that, it will surely help to buy some beer, cigars, n ammo.
Thanks for the reminder Frankie. Just thumped the offering plate too.
The humor from the TAH ladies is, in itself, worth every dime.
Thanks for the reminder, just sent a little spare change to to TAH defense fund.
Thanks for all you do Jonn!
Interesting podcast about restoring ones online reputation. There is no doubt that Wickre and Monkress paid top dollar for something like this. Green Thumb….this explains Phildos blogs. http://gimletmedia.com/episode/18-silence-and-respect/
I read the article that accompanies the podcast, about ‘restoring’ one’s reputation online.
My response is that a large dose of common sense about what is and is not appropriate behavior in 30-year-old adults is desperately needed in some of these overgrown children. Wait – make that MANY of these overgrown children.
Lindsey Stone’s only problem is Lindsey Stone. To the best of my knowledge she does not comprehend the difference between being sorry of something she did and making amends for her actions.
If she was on my payroll and did something like that she would have beef fired on the spot. She is more concerned with putting makeup on her reputation than she is with making up for what she did to get that reputation.
All indications are she sees herself a the victim when in reality she was the perpetrator of her own demise.
Word.
Yeah.
Phildo has been trying to rase multiple truths concerning his claims.
I even found one in German.
Might as well help Commander Phil Monkress of All-Points Logistics spend some more taxpayer dollars obtained under false pretenses (his fake Native American, LEO and SEAL claims)in “scrubbing” the internet to cover-up his nefarious and illegal ways.
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Good point.
https://youtu.be/1DS2wXSKF5k
I saw this posted at the “FREE NORTH CAROLINA” web site.
Any Jews here?
“CHAG SAMAECH!!!”
(I learned that at the JUDAISM 101 web site.)
Pesach begins at sundown.
How long does it last?
What do you do to observe Pesach?
When I was in Israel, I was privileged to be at a Sabbath supper.
It was beautiful!
I wish Christians would do that.
We do. It’s called Golden Corral. 🙂
I am not a terribly observant Jew (in both the religious sense and the sensory sense, ha). Pesach lasts for a week, however, from sundown. There are a number of traditions (and amusingly, your question echoes one of the traditions!).
I am not having a Pesach seder this year as it is just me and my husband, but traditionally it’s a time for family and any friends and, really, anyone who has nowhere else to go. An empty chair is left at the table, and anyone who knocks on the door during the meal is supposed to be invited in to partake, because it could be Elijah the Prophet. Unexpected guests who come are made welcome in the spirit of welcoming Elijah.
There is a hunt for chometz the night before Passover, which is often turned into a small fun ritual for the kids (so the adults usually hide a little for them to find!) – the chometz is any remaining unleavened bread in the house. The children are encouraged to hunt for it and given small rewards for finding it. The chometz is then burned – you might think of it as a sort of Jewish easter egg hunt.
There are a bunch of other traditions around Passover, many of them of course related to food, but also it’s one time of year where we are encouraged to laze around and enjoy!
This weekend is Passover (i.e., Pesach in Hebrew), the Jewish Sabbath, and Easter.
It’s also the biggest weekend of the entire year for us Mormons, for it is the annual General Conference of The Church of JESUS CHRIST of Latter-day Saints, broadcast live around the globe from Salt Lake City, Utah, headquarters for 19th Special Forces (Airborne).
When I was a student at Brigham Young University in Provo, Utah, I did an internship with the Utah County Sheriff.
At the time, it was an unwritten job requirement that any applicant for a position as Deputy Sheriff in Utah County had to be a member of the 19th Special Forces (Airborne).
Those were some tough guys!
As a newly trained and certified Emergency Medical Technician, I went with them on a search and rescue in the mountains after a major snowstorm trapped a bunch of deer hunters.
I’m very proud of my Letter of Appreciation from Sheriff Mack Holley.
Enjoying my time “down south” before heading home for a short weekend.
Good Friday and Happy Easter to all. He has died for our sins, and mine are more than a few.
In 1968, there was a war going on. When there’s a war going on, the United States Army gets really, REALLY busy! So, when I completed my Basic Combat Training in 3d Platoon, Company “D”, 3d Battalion, 1st Basic Combat Training Brigade, at Fort Lewis, Washington, I boarded a jet airliner (!) and flew to Fort Gordon, Georgia to attend the Field Radio Relay and Carrier Equipment Operator (MOS 31M20) course at the United States Army Southeastern Signal School (USASESS). I couldn’t BELIEVE how much money the taxpayers were spending on ME, just a dumb private. Wow! Flown on a commercial JET AIRLINER! Clear across the entire Country! Can you BELIEVE that? Anyway, because we were at war, the 31M20 course operated twenty-four hours a day, and my class, Company “F”, 3d Battalion, Student Brigade, attended from 1600 Hours until Midnight. In addition to the Southeastern Signal School, Fort Gordon, Georgia had several other schools operating, i.e., Basic Combat Training, Airborne Infantry Advanced Individual Training, Instant NCO Course (i.e., “Shake and Bake”), Signal Corps Officer Candidate Course, Army Security Agency School (fenced in, guarded, and Top Secret!), Civil Affairs School, Military Police School, and Criminal Investigation Division School. Did I leave anyone out? The Women’s Army Corps (i.e., the WACs) were there, but I never saw them. They lived in barracks surrounded by high chain link fences topped with barbed wire, with the entrances guarded by armed male Military Police. There were no female Military Police back in those days. When we marched past the WAC barracks, we’d sing to them – – – IF there were no officers anywhere around. The regular cadence went like this: Count Cadence, Delayed Cadence, Count Cadence, COUNT! One! (As booted foot stomps down on concrete) Two! (As booted foot stomps down on concrete) Three! (As booted foot stomps down on concrete) Four! (As booted foot stomps down on concrete) (Faster Tempo) One! Two! Three! Four! Even Faster Tempo) One!Two!Three!Four! One!Two!Three!Four! GrrrOOOWLL!!! BUT – – – , When we marched past the WAC barracks, if no officers were present, we’d do this variation Count… Read more »
https://youtu.be/lGrgWM7gp1s
The main thing I’m wondering about is – – –
What is Fort Gordon, Georgia like TODAY?
What’s it like being a Basic trainee or an Advanced trainee in the United States Army TODAY?
Is there any comparison to what my experience was in 1968?
I ran into a young lady in dress blues at a restaurant with her family. She was on her way to Pensacola to go to ABF “A” school. I felt so OLD, all of a sudden.
ABF, as in Aviation Boatswains Mate, Fuels? A Purple Shirt on the carrier, AKA a “Grape?”
Hope she hit the gym with lots of bicep curls, ’cause those hoses are heavy!
Fueled my fair share of Navy aircraft, it ain’t like going to the local Shell station.
No, she was abouta s big as a minute and looked like a strong sneeze might blow her off the flight deck. I just wished her good luck.
And so, There I was…
…at twenty thousand feet…
Knee deep in brass and grenade pins
All alone and surrounded by the VC.
I fixed my bayonnet and charged with my last Claymore in hand …
Meanwhile back in the USAF C-130 the Loadmaster after he had closed it up from the jump thought: “A pocketful of quarters and not a coke machine in sight. Guess I will just have to wait until I get back to my air conditioned room.”
…trying to decide whether to wait for GySgt Rzezckowski to show up with the rest of the squad, or just take the Snakes with the four Marines with me.
The mountain pass at 20,000 feet was rugged. It was colder than a cow’s ass in Siberia in the summer. We were cut off and separated, when out of nowhere…
Papa-San pedaled up on his three wheeled cyclo-mobile, lifted the lid on the ammo can that was bolted to the handle bars, and said “Fresca, GI”?
And just as Papa-San reached into the ammo box for a can of frosty Fresca, a jeep full of ARVN white mice roared up to arrest Papa-San as a suspected NVA chemical weapons specialist.
“Stick to Ba Moui Ba, GI” warned the QC commander.
And no sooner had those words came out of the QC Commander’s mouth, a voice (that sounded a lot like Sparks) was heard from the bushes that said “You Number 10. I need a Fresca to wash down my Ham & MF’ers with!!”
When everyone turned toward the voice, all of a sudden
CLAW131 Yea, Ham & MF’ers! Now that’s good eatin’! Good memories.
Thanks for the laudatory comment Sparks.
But the ball is in your court, Buddy. Continue on with the storyline if you can.
I left it wide open with the “all of a sudden……”
… when all of a sudden the sinister shadow of a C-130 passed overhead trailing smoke from both starboard engines. A rear hatch opened with a rain of spent brass, grenade pins, and empty Fresca and MFer cans followed by an airborne trooper clutching a bayonet in one hand, and a claymore in the other. As the trooper’s chute deployed, the aircraft crew chief could be seen struggling to lower the rear ramp in a desperate attempt to jettison a Coke machine, and save the big bird.
It was a futile gesture. The ramp was jammed solid and the plane seemed doomed, but just then…
LtCol Chevy “Hollywood” Chevalier pushed the the throttles to the firewall and hit the JATO bottles, dumped a pallet of cheese in a LAPEs maneuver and …
“MISTER” Giduck seemingly appeared appeared out of nowhere with little more than a small shovel, and once he had taped himself to the stern of the aircraft, he spun the shovel in a Spetznaz/Ninja fashion making it a field expedient propeller, giving the aircraft extra thrust to gain altitude while staying ready to “Shovel Ninja-smack” bullets and shrapnel away from the bird, then…
then banked hard left to avoid a flock of migrating herons…
and flew straight into a box canyon, with howling gale pushing downward from the mountains above, as they – – –
were almost out of fuel from all the drastic flight maneuvers, the crew knew the end was near. But suddenly a Klingon Battle Cruiser decloaked, and using it’s tractor beam guided the C-130 out of the box canyon and put it down on a nearby dry lake bed. As the air crew breathed a huge sigh of relief, reality sunk in and the Command Pilot turned to the Peter Pilot and said…..
Well,Shit, they may as well just let us crash and burn. Now we have to suffer a fate worse than death and will have to listen to Klingon Opera for the rest of our lives. The End.
Moral of the story: Just like at the firing range, don’t start a “And so,There I was” story without having your ear plugs in.
…But then the Klingons suddenly morphed into Vogons and began reading their poetry until everyone’s heads imploded.
THE END.
Taking my two step-grandsons to the Trinity site tomorrow. They’re quite excited. Looked at the area on Google satellite and found a couple of 400′ holes and thought “I made those!”
I just now got back from Wal-Mart, where I bought some goodies to snack on for the next couple of days.
As I walked out the front door of this building, I was amazed and stunned by the impressive sight of the full moon in a clear, cloudless night sky.
I doubt I can quit coughing enough to go outside and properly bay, and I also doubt I can strum my guitar and perform the song, “INSPIRED BY THE FULL MOON”.
There’ll be another time, when I’m feeling better, God willing.
https://youtu.be/VT2cJ-IzBw4
“INSPIRED BY THE FULL MOON”
Words and Music by:
JOHN ROBERT MALLERNEE
Sunday 04 July 1993
Salt Lake City, Utah
CHORUS:
When the full moon
Climbs over the mountain
Shining cold
And lonesome up above:
Like a lone wolf
Howling through the darkness,
My heart aches
For a woman I can love.
Hear that locomotive
Cross the desert
As it wails
And thunders through the night:
And I know
It’s time to wander onward;
Find the love
Who’ll make my world all right.
VERSE # 1:
Somewhere out there,
Beyond the far horizon,
Lies a destined
Answer to a prayer.
There’s a woman;
Lonely, lost, and looking
For someone to come
And rescue her out there.
VERSE # 2:
In a plane,
I’ll fly across the heavens.
In a ship,
I’ll sail across the sea.
Through hot jungle
And the freezing tundra,
Fight my way
To true love’s victory!
VERSE # 3:
It’s not right
To live without a woman.
No one knows
The lonely tears I’ve cried.
So, I’ll search,
As all the world I wander,
Until at last,
My true love’s by my side.
Stationed in Alaska and Infantry I was transported all around that state.
One of the best things to do was to get fire duty in the summer.
I was good with a map so I rode with the bulldozers, manned by civilian employees and got directed by radio to the trouble spots in the AO.
I will never forget some of the crazy shit I did when I was in.
Some was fun, a lot of it sucked, but I did it nonetheless.
I still cannot believe I got out with an Honorable after some of the shit I pulled…
God must have liked me or something…
Gosh, you sound like me.
I’d hate to be in the chain of command in today’s technological environment. U.S Army W.T.F! Moments (https://www.facebook.com/usawtfm?fref=nf) has a “reporter” named Jose who reports on stuff happening in Army units, complete with pictures. It can be funny and scary. Some of his NTC “reports” are amazing, if true.
Got up at 4AM, loaded gear into vehicle, hit McD’s for sustenance, headed to good spot to get moon shot. Spent 2 hours getting moon shots. Clouds covere the moon before totality. Sun dawned red, so we’ll have a storm in a day or two.
It was beastly cold, about 24F. I was dressed for it, but because the camera buttons are small, I had to remove my gloves occasionally. Fingers froze nicely.
But I got the shots up to cloud cover, so I came home and got the feeling back in my fingers.
Then I saw this on MSN: ‘In 2020, the European Space Agency plans to launch its Asteroid Impact Mission, or AIM probe. It’ll travel to an asteroid named Didymos, which is orbited by a relatively small (about 550 feet wide) asteroid called Didymoon.’
Excuse me – Didymoon? As in Itty Bitty Didymoon? OH, there are SO many jokes there.
Link to article: http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/technology/nasa-is-planning-to-deflect-an-asteroid-in-2022-%e2%80%94-to-learn-how-to-protect-earth/ar-AAap56n
Anyway, I had a good time and I can feel my fingers again.
Very cool. Any way we can see the pics you took??
I will send one to Jonn.
From Enigma4U, another picture of the partial eclipse;
Oops, hit the “Reply” button by mistake
Credit for that photo goes to Allen in Parkersburg WV where his quick thinking while at Wal-Mart captured that posterior for posterity.
Well, I am beat all to smithereens by this!
Someone should tell that…individual that Wal-Mart sells belts. I’ll bet they have one in just the right size.
Or suspenders. They also come in just the right size.
Suspenders won’t be strong enough. Methinks cargo straps would be needed.
Yeah, that is really neat. Amazing resolution. Thanks PH-2 for your effort (and braving the dark and cold to take it), and Jonn for adding it here.
Sierra Hotel!
Excellent Ex-PH2! Great photo! You m’lady, have talent!
About the same time you got that shot, I rousted my boys out of bed and we stepped on to our back deck and saw it in approximately the same phase. We are up at the farm so there was very little light pollution. Tonight we will cook hot dogs out by the fire and look for shooting stars and study the constellations. My boys are 12 and 8, and they can easily pick out the North Star, several other stars, couple of Planets, and probably about 6 constellations. We sit around the fire, get curious about something, and open Google Sky to find out what we are looking at. That is how they build their repertoire. Google Sky makes it so easy.
Damn! And I meant to include that is a really nice photograph Ma’am. Nicely done!
You can also get a weekly e-mail from Sky & Telescope, and subscribe to it online or in print. I like the print copies, myself.
Beautiful pic, Ex-PH2… wish that the weather was clear at my pos today to break out my 8″ Celestron SCT to watch.
BTW, what equipment did you use for your photo?
Thank you all for the feedback (and the additional moon shot).
I used my Nikon D300 with a 70-300MM lens, fully extended in this case. I did put the camera on a tripod.
I think there is another lunar eclipse in September this year. I have to check on that.
I wish I could have watched, but at the moment, I’m quite ill, and heavily medicated, unable to do much of anything.
Shucks, I couldn’t even BAY at the Moon, or sing my song to it!
New movie coming out
MAX the Marine dog
OOOOOH!
I’ve GOT to see this movie!
I’ve GOT to buy the DVD (or get it for my AMAZON on line collection).
When does this movie become available to the public?
The DVDs will make great Christmas gifts.
It’ll be in theatres 26 June 2015.
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt3369806/
Picked up a copy of “Top Dog, the story of Marine Hero Lucca”, a German Shepherd-Belgian Malinois mix, and her service in the Middle East.
God, I love these animals.
Jonn, thanks for the link to the collection of military photos. Great stuff there, and I will be sending this link to others who will appreciate those pics.
My dog dropped another huge, steaming pile of Phil Monkress in the yard this morning.
Well, what has befallen our favorite “blobfish”?
Seems that ‘ol denny-penny has been quite for some time now and has gone silent from Dallas/Ft. Worth’s CL Rants and Raves postings. Did he have another sit-down with his local police department? What of the book that he is publishing exposing all the cyber-terrorist here at TAH?
Oh, cue ball head, where are you?
“Blobfish”? Oh yeah, I’d almost forgotten that critter.
I may not be the smartest guy around, but I accidentally managed to FIX MY COMPUTER ! ! !
I’m running Windows 8.1 on a Toshiba “Satellite” C-75D-B laptop computer, with a AMD A8-6410 APU with AMD Radeon R5 graphics 2.00 GHz processor, with 8 GB RAM (6.96 GB usable), 64-bit operating system, x64-based processor.
My BOINC projects include SETI, World Community Grid, SZTAKI, Milky Way, Rosetta, LHC, Einstein, and POEM.
On April Fool’s Day, Wednesday 01 April 2015, I downloaded and installed the latest version of BOINC, 7.4.42 Windows x86 64 Virtual Box.
It would not connect to the Internet, although I couldn’t figure that out until this morning, Saturday 04 April 2015.
So, I did a system restoration to April Fool’s Day, Wednesday 01 April 2015, and then downloaded and installed the updated version of BOINC, 7.4.36, which comes WITHOUT Virtual Box, and after installation, my BOINC program immediately connected to the Internet.
PROBLEM SOLVED ! ! !
Bought a Windows desktop with version 8, then updated to 8.1, etc.
Then bought Windows 7 pro and a new hard drive and never looked back.
Aside: I addition to having been a nerd before it was sexy, I have been a professional recording engineer, now semi-retired.
Need help? [grin]
What, help with my computer or help with my songs?
Either way, at the moment, I’m too sick and medicated to do much of anything.
Also, I’m really pretty naive, which gets me into a lot of trouble, because I can’t always easily discern if folks are serious, or just pulling my leg.
I reckon you know all about the BOINC program.
I also run ZOONIVERSE, but I hardly ever find time to actually do anything with it, such as participating in the search for as yet undiscovered planets in distant solar systems.
My main interest, which got me into all this, is SETI, the Search for Extra Terrestrial Intelligence.
Do you know about the “WOW!” signal discovered in 1977 at the University of Ohio, and believed to have originated in the area of Constellation Sagittarius?
Just Google it.
It lasted over a minute and a half, but has not been detected since, nor has any other intelligent signal.
But, we can hope.
Because of the “WOW!” signal, at least we know now, for certain, that SOMETHING is out there.
Ran “SETI @ Home” for years but during some upgrade or other it fell thru the cracks.
Currently on Satellite Internet with only a finite amount of data usage available each month for me and The Wife.
Feel better soon.
John, you might want to sign up for Sky & Telescope’s free weekly e-mail. If the ‘wow’ signal is ever found again, they’ll let everyone know right away.
I am more and more convinced that the ‘Wow’ signal was one of those private conversations aimed at someone else, and we just happened to get it by mistake. This article has a starmap of its area of origin near the Teapot in Sagittarius.
FYI, there is now a nova in the Teapot that brightens and darkens regularly.
http://news.discovery.com/space/alien-life-exoplanets/the-wow-signal-130524.htm
The bandwidth was 1420mHz, which is the ‘hydrogen’ line in radio astronomy. But instead of a continuing search of a specific spot for several months at a time, radio astronomers move from one spot to another.
If there are any more ‘transmissions’, we’ve missed them. And the sender probably changed frequency, anyway.
We may be considered to be so uncivilized, too, that aliens prefer to NOT contact us directly until we can learn to behave ourselves. If you get Robert Heinlein’s ‘Have Spacesuit – Will Travel’ and read the last few chapters, you’ll find Heinlein’s take on how alien civiliazations may view us.
Thank you for that information.
I have now subscribed to the “SKY & TELESCOPE” weekly e-mail.
And soon, we get to do the Windows dance all over again with Windows 10 since they are going to stop supporting 7 and 8.
Only bright side, they are giving 10 away.
WHAAAAAT?
I just BOUGHT this thing!
I ain’t got no money to go buy something new!
WAAAUUGH ! ! !
Yeah, 10 might be worth the exercise according to some tech pubs.
They say they dn’t support Windows XP, but I still get patches every now and then.
You can always bitch at them about their crappy Outlook service and how you have to go to Google to make it work properly.
Windows XP was a lot easier to work with.
It certainly IS.
*Wavies* 🙂
You’re ALIVE!!! Thank goodness! I thought the dragon had seized the day.
Maybe she was over on the SMA thread that got all you ladies fired up?
@Sj
lol…well can you blame us? 😀
@Ex-PH@
Yep dragons carried me off so shhh don’t tell…still working on what i promised..will send mail to you with info this week….
Hope you are well <3
Doing fine. Will send you an e-mail later.
The first time I ever flew on a Military Hop was right after I completed my Signal School course at Fort Gordon, Georgia.
I had a leave before going to my first assignment in Germany, and wanted to see my fiancee in Portland, Oregon.
So, I caught a bus from Fort Gordon, Georgia to Charleston Air Force Base, South Carolina.
As a brand new graduate of the Signal School, I wore my orange neck scarf with my dress green uniform, and the Army liaison at the Charleston Air Force Base passenger terminal immediately ordered me to take that orange neck scarf off, and stow it in my duffel bag.
While many Signal Corps units were authorized to wear the orange scarf, it varied, and I don’t remember ever being assigned to any of Signal Corps unit where it was authorized as part of the uniform.
Anyway, I was going to fly on a C-141 “Starlifter” to Travis Air Force Base in California, from where I’d catch the bus to Portland, Oregon.
The flight was free, but a small fee was required ($5.00?), as we were each issued a DELICIOUS (!) box lunch, containing (I think) a couple of sandwiches, fruit, chips, cookies, and milk or juice (I actually can’t remember).
There was only one window, a porthole on the door, and I would step up on it to look out, but we were so high up, there was nothing to see.
The pilot invited me up into the cockpit, and that was neat, except, being so ignorant as I was, I had no idea what I was looking at, and didn’t know what to say.
Anyway, that’s the story of my very first Military Hop.
I flew numerous military hops after that, but that’s the only one where we had a meal.
P.S.: The fiancee sent me a “Dear John” when I was in Germany.
Just got some fascinating literature in the mail about Tricare Pharmacy benefits. Apparently I’m supposed to be thrilled to consider getting 90-day supplies of drugs through them. And, am equally thrilled to hear than I am a “new beneficiary,” according to the letter.
Anyone have a good guess why they sent such a thing? Every time I’ve tried to make a claim from them so far, they say that they might consider paying something if there is anything left after Medicare and our insurance pay their parts. In other words, Tricare has not paid for anything yet, but apparently they want me to think that they would. Or something.
My bride got the same letter today. But, she takes no meds of any kind. I think it is just a routine mailing to get folks on Express Scripts instead of CVS.
I will say that I have used the Tricare Express Scripts thing for a year now and have had no problems of any kind. Medicare is my first pay and I’m TriCare for Life. If you have other insurance, TriCare is last to pay.
Thanks. Makes some sense that all they are trying to do is get folks into a mail order system. Ya gotta wonder who stands to gain financially from that, and if it’s another case of names and addresses being sold to a private company. If it’s only being sent to those not currently in the system, there are even more questions to ask.
I would like to play my guitar and sing a few songs.
But, I’m too sick.
So, I popped some corn, filled a large mug with ice cubes and Pepsi-Cola, got out some cold fried chicken from the refrigerator, and now, I’ll watch the movie, “AMERICAN SNIPER”, at the RAINIERTAMAYO web site.
Everybody’s talked about that movie, but I ain’t never seen it.
Why am I coughing so much, and why does my nose keep pouring out liquid?
I’ve taken my medicine, LOTS of it, so why doesn’t this stuff go away?
Hope you feel better soon, John.
My son suggested that we ambush the Easter bunny early tomorrow morning with his 22 rifle after his basket is delivered. He wants rabbit for Easter dinner. He said, “dad, you have to admit, you would call that a twofer!”
So, we are hunting at sun up!
Good luck.
There is chance that Commander Phil Monkress of All-Points Logistics has already stolen it an scurried it away to Merritt Island, Florida to use it to validate his false Native American, Navy SEAL and Law Enforcement claims.
OK, The Lionesses of TAH®™ have gotten their catcalls in about the new SMA, now it’s MY TURN to say something with a video,…
PI… it is obvious you are not a sensitive, metrosexual man of the 21st century. For shame.
NO SHAME AT ALL, I take pride in being politically incorrect! 😀
Couple of “hop” flights. Some official. Others not so much.
Most entertaining one was from Clark AB to Yakota, Japan. Aboard a C-9 (Nightingale). Had to make a quick stop at Cubi Point, NAS to pick up a couple of folks. Most were ambulatory, but one guy was on a stretcher. They put him directly behind me. We’re lining up for take off and this guy, a HUGE Marine, wakes up and he’s ready to kill someone. This little 5ft female nurse comes flying down the aisle, muttering “I’m not putting up with shit the whole flight”, hits him with a needle full of something and he’s out cold. Turns out, he had ingested something on leave and it basically scrambled his brains
TODAY is Easter!
The origin of the name, “EASTER”, is actually Pagan, and has nothing to do with Jesus, the Christ.
Respectfully, I offer a possible solution.
Let’s begin calling it, “RESURRECTION DAY”, for not only was our Lord and Saviour, Jesus, who is the Christ, resurrected on this holy day, but it reminds us that because of what the Messiah has done, in overcoming the grave, we, ourselves, also will be resurrected at some later date.
Amen!
“The story of Easter is as much rooted in paganism as it is in Christianity.” So begins the Ms. Bowman’s piece for NPR regarding this sacred day. Unsurprisingly and humorously, Ms. Bowman got it wrong. She attributes her mistaken conclusion to a 2007 Center for Children’s Literature and Culture article piece that connects not Easter but the Easter bunny to the ‘pagan’ story. Interestingly, the story, as related not by Bowman but her source, included a little girl’s prayer. In any event, like Christmas, Easter’s religious importance seems overshadowed by its commercial importance. The two need not be at odds with another, but, still, in all of my years, I have never been able to eat a chocolate cross.
Happy Easter.
Happy Easter to all my fellow vets and their loved ones.
WEEKEND WARRIOR IN TEXAS posted something on the discussion topic, “BERGDAHL’S LAWYERS; HOW DID THIS BOOB GET IN THE ARMY ANYWAY?” which piqued my interest, and so I did a GOOGLE search to find the entire poem. Here is “THE STOKER’S LAMENT”: Now each of us from time to time, has gazed upon the sea, And watched the war ships pulling out, to keep his country free, And most of us have read a book or heard a lusty tale, About the men who sail these ships, through lightning, wind and hail, But there’s a place within each ship, that legend fails to teach. It’s hot down below the water line, it takes a living toll, A hot metal living hell, that sailors call the “Hole”, It houses engines run by steam, that make the shafts go round, Where boilers like a hellish heart, with blood of angry steam, Are of molded Gods without remorse, are nightmares in a dream. Whose threat that from the fires roar is like a living doubt, That any minute would with scorn, escape and crush you out, Where turbines scream like tortured souls, alone and lost in hell, And ordered from above somewhere they answer every bell, The men who keep the fires lit, and make the engines run, Are strangers to the world of light, and rarely see the sun. They have no time for men or god, no tolerance for fear, Their aspect pays no living thing, the tribute of a tear, For there’s not much that men can do, that these men haven’t done, Beneath the decks, deep in the hole, to make the engines run, And every hour of every day, they keep the watch in hell, For if the fires ever fail, the ships a useless shell. When ships converge to have a war, upon the angry sea, The men below just grimly smile, at what their fate might be, They’re locked in below like men for doomed, who hear no battle cry, Its well assumed that if they’re hit, the men below will die, For every day is… Read more »
The above is well known to us ole steamin’ deamon Snipes.
Happy Chocolate Egg Day and Happy Resurrection Day to those that celebrate it..
Brightest blessings TAH family. Wishing you a beautiful day 🙂
Squeezing and cheesing…
John Giduck – the turd with a face!
Monday 06 April 2015 is NATIONAL TARTAN DAY!
http://www.tartanday.org/
It’s an appropriate day to wear your clan’s tartan kilt and plaid, with traditional full Highland regalia, including your sword and properly arranged military decorations.
National Tartan Day commemorates the DECLARATION OF ARBROATH, signed in 1320, a historic document which became a model for America’s own DECLARATION OF INDEPENDENCE.
” – – – so long as one hundred of us remain alive, we will never submit to English rule.”
https://youtu.be/Ks9_LiFlkl8
https://youtu.be/liqcugwltVQ?list=PLB5810EFD3C00F1DF
Since it Easter. Came across this group Kaoma on You Tube. Amazing acapella (sp?) Gospel quartet. One song here (there are many others): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RPBCwMf0TjQ
Wow…it is not a quartet! It is one guy…he sings and films all all parts and puts it together. FB Page: https://www.facebook.com/pages/Kaoma-Chende-Muzik/119472504829935?ref=hl
HAPPY EASTER to all The Fine People of TAH®™!!
Hey Ex what is the name of the lotion at Walmart that is the same as Skin So Soft to be also used as a tick repellant? Joe
It might be ‘Skintastic’ but I wouldn’t swear to that.
However, Skin So Soft is a patented Avon product, never sold in stores, and while Avon neither confirms nor denies the legend of their popular skin care product’s bug-fighting capabilities, they do market their own line of bug repellent called Skin So Soft Bug Guard.
You can order from them directly here and no one needs to know except you:
http://shop.avon.com/search.aspx?department=search&find_spec=sikn so soft bug guard
I have to get a new supply for summer. 🙂