NY Times; no justice no police
The New York Police Department seems to be on strike. According to the New York Times, last week, officers issued 347 criminal summonses compared to the same week last year, they wrote 4,077. Traffic and parking tickets are virtually nonexistent these days. The Times editorial staff and the DeBlasio administration are pretty angry;
Call this what it is: a reckless, coordinated escalation of a war between the police unions and Mr. de Blasio and a hijacking of law-enforcement policy by those who do not set law-enforcement policy. This deplorable gesture is bound to increase tension in a city already rattled….
Yeah, well, tough. Any other union standing up to The Man would have the Times’ unwavering support. They would delight in the antics and gleefully report the anguish suffered by the union’s target. But, it’s Bonnie Prince DeBlasio who is being picketed, so it’s not quite as much fun.
I’ve had my problems with how the NYPD does their job at times, but I don’t have to live there. I sympathize with them, having to do their job in that environment, though. The mayor wants a crime-free city, but he doesn’t want the criminals to be inconvenienced.
If I was a New Yorker, I’d make other living accommodations, though, what with the police on strike, and no way to protect myself, and the police are the only ones allowed to have guns in the city. But my 5 acres here is crime free.
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F*ck yeah. These guys got the balls to do what we should have done years ago when Obummer started whinig about the enemys feelings. Turn our backs on the Fer.
that same article said that police are continuing to arrest people for felonies and to respond to 911 requests for assistance as normal. It sounds to me like they are tired of getting the short end of the stick for doing their jobs. And who can blame them? And The article also said the city stood to lose millions of dollars in revenue because of the reduction in parking citations and similar small fines. Looks like the cops figured out a way to do their job to protect the public, without lining the pockets of the politicians who condemn them. Great job
At only $100.00 per ticket they would be losing somewhere in the neighborhood of $373,000.00 a day.
Sounds like the po-po are slowly turning from revenue-redistributing LEOs back to Peace Officers (I wonder how long that will last?). And the Perfumed Princes are seeing their income revenue decreasing? Boo-fuckin’-hoo. As much as I’ve looked, I think I left my give-a-damn in my other pants pockets.
Traffic stops are dangerous, even more so after the Mayor’s divisive comments. Get shot issuing a ticket for a busted tail light? No thanks.
The saddest part of it is that the people who suffer the most when the police aren’t proactive are the ones who live in the poorest parts of town.
IOW the same poor people that the NYT purports to love so much and on whose behalf they do so much social justice warring. The rich folks in Manhattan aren’t likely to see an increase in crime.
There’s some cognitive dissonance in this editorial around the “broken windows” policy. (Some? Maybe a sheetload.) The NYT and Mayor Deblasio have been against Broken Windows policing and stop-and-frisk. The editorial says that the Commissioner needs “re-think” his belief in Broken Windows policing.
Now the police have stopped writing up minor offenses – the exact thing the mayor and the NYT and presumably the citizens, through their votes for the mayor, have desired.
So, what’s the beef? The people, their elected officials, and the mouth organ are getting what they want.
Just remember you disarmed New Yorkers. When the bad man kicks in your door and starts coming for you and/or your loved ones, just call 911 and wait. Good luck.
Somebody mention in a comment the other day how a police department starting enforcing ALL the laws on the books in a labor dispute.
Maybe the NYPD could use the same strategy in neighborhoods with deBlahsio’s rich friends/supports.
peotic justice and all that
that was me… Lawrence KS in the (I think) mid-70s.) Took less than 2 days for the city to decide a pay raise was worthwhile… and weeks to unclog the courts from over 3000 traffic tickets written the first day in a town of about 30,000.
Sounds like the NYPD has curtailed the activites that help generate revenue for the city.
Heh.
The surgical response continues, and I applaude them for it.
Let the mayor give his pal Al Sharpton a f’in pen and turn him loose.
“a hijacking of law-enforcement policy by those who do not set law-enforcement policy. This deplorable gesture is bound to increase tension in a city already rattled…”
Doesn’t sound like any policy was hijacked, sounds like the police officers are exercising what we used to call selective enforcement which is their option. If the NYT or the Mayor don’t like it then issue an edict that ALL offenses will be cited. See how long that lasts.
Deplorable gesture my ass. When you do your job and the media rips you a new ass every time and the public that the media chooses to publicize scream for your head then fuck both of them. Do the bare minimum and go home.
No police administrator will ever put their name on an order, directive or edict like that. No way!!
And, in this day and age of the cell phone camera, I doubt that they would even say it directly. If orders were given to start writing more tickets, make more arrests, enforce everything, it would devolve down onto some poor sergeant to tell the troops what to do. No LT, Captain, or higher up would do so.
OK, I support the cops on the point they’re making, but what is the end game? Temporary pain for DeBlasio? Or do they want a specific outcome? Because that mayor is a Commie through-and-through and I don’t see him making a change even if all of New York was carrying torches and marching down the street asking for his head.
The end game is to protest against the haterade that the NYC Mayor’s office and the NY media has been bringing up about the Gardner case. Remember the dude was being harassed for selling untaxed smokes in front of a legitimate smoke shop. Right or wrong the police where doing thier job as the population had asked for via thier elected political types. Now they are getting shat on for doing thier job, so why do a job that the people hate you for doing and only do the “important” ones like violent crimes.
The order for arrests for selling “loosies” came from One Police Plaza, from the office of the Chief of Department, Phillip Banks. Pretty sure he got his orders on that from Bratton, who got the orders from de Blasio. http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/philip-banks-nypd-chief-department-article-1.1300751
This is the problem with cops, unlike the military they are unionized turds who can pull any kind of shit they want and get away with it.
The mayor criticized their actions so they stop doing their jobs? Well boo fucking hoo, maybe it’s time to bust this fucking union just like Reagan busted the ATC union.
Now we have cops riding around on the hoods of squad cars fucking around and getting a head injury instead of policing the neighborhood. I am certain the officer who injured himself while playing stunt man will expect to be compensated for his on the job injuries….
Fuck those guys hire some new cops and start replacing the ones who won’t do their jobs…they don’t like the mayor’s words? Tough shit, the mayor can have an opinion just like everyone else. That’s the problem with free speech, everybody loves it until they hear something they don’t like then they all cry like a bunch of silly twats. The mayor never said go out and kill cops, he said he thought it was appropriate to review the training and procedures that were used to restrain prisoners to avoid killing another man like Garner, wow how fucking inflammatory…grow the fuck up you little bitches and do your job or get the fuck out.
I assume you have never worked in law enforcement. They are doing their job, they still respond to 911 calls and make felony arrests. Police have always had the option to not enforce minor violations and it rarely causes any issues as most people are happy to not get a speeding ticket or a citation for jaywalking. Most police officers I know and have worked with understand the majority of the public they deal with doesn’t support them. When their supposed leadership doesn’t support them and makes it publicly know then things like this begin to happen. I’m no fan of unions and have never belonged to one, but I was a police officer for many years and I don’t blame them for what they are doing.
Last time I checked New York hadn’t descended into anarchy so what they are doing only seems to be cutting the revenue for the city which is one of the few ways to get someone’s attention.
Reminds me of when I was an NCO, I was told how to get someone’s total attention: take away their time and/or money. Works, too. Seems to be working here too.
The job of law enforcement is to protect public safety. Its not to be a quasi-tax collector for the government.
These men and women have been working without a contract for quite some time, and have had the city leadership throw them under the bus, not just through their comments after Grand Jury decision but also by switching side in a major law suit against the NYPD and basically publicly painting the whole force as a bunch of racist thugs.
What I find most ironic and sad is that the NYPD is perhaps the most ethnicly diverse department in the country, and the two officers who were killed in the line of duty were of minority descent.
While I am not a fan of public sector unions, this situation has significantly different than the PATCO ATC strike in 1981. Those individuals walked off their jobs. The NYPD is still on the beat, still responding to 911 and serious crimes. They have just used their discrestion in carrying out their additional duty as the tax man.
Have no inside info on this, but can opine about what may or may not be occurring.
A group, any group, of folks has been targeted for assassination. To get paid, the target group must continue to put themselves in front of potential assassins. It would be prudent for members of that group to reduce the opportunities for assassins to target them in any way they are able.
It would be insane for the cops of NYPD, or Anywhere, USA, to increase the opportunities they give bad guys to shoot them. Nothing special going on here – just human nature taking reasonable precautions. No one needs to order them to do or not do anything.
Hey DeBlasio! You broke it, you bought it, dude! Ain’t like you can’t afford it anyway…
If the police are the only ones allowed to have guns, why are there still shootings? Don’t the people know that they aren’t allowed to have guns? Why don’t those criminals follow the laws that the aristocracy gave them for the safety of the serfs?
The grand jury that considered the Garner death had 50 witnesses appear before it. Of the 50, 22 were non-medical civilians. The remaining 28 were doctors, emergency medical personnel, and police officers. The grand jury also watched four videos. On the heels of the McPherson fiasco, and with one video being repeatedly shown to the public, many people concluded that Garner was negligently killed, at best, and murdered, at worst. The grand jury, after hearing and watching all of the evidence, found otherwise. Mayor De Blasio’s might have supported the police department that he, as the city’s chief executive, oversees. He could have said that the matter was decided by the grand jury and that his opinion of the outcome, without benefit of the evidence and information that the grand jury had, is meaningless. Instead, he talked about the immediate need to retrain the NYPD, talked about how he counseled his own child regarding protecting himself from the police, and all but blessed protestors who marched illegally in NY and injured several police officers in doing so. No wonder the NYPD is pissed at him. I would be too. But, as I have said previously, the issue is not a national one, despite the rhetoric and rabble rousing. It is New York’s issue.
Where the fuck is Batman when you need him? New York is turning into Gotham City right before our eyes.
If you don’t like what happens when the police are ordered to arrest people selling cigarets without the NYC added tax, then don’t ask the police to enforce the cigarette tax law.
Yeah, I’m back at this thread but not to comment about the NYPD. It’s to say something about police generally. It’s this: Like many of you, I was taught early on to respect police and I later learned that if you screw with them, you may just get your ass kicked. In other words, it may not be proper, it may not be legal, but the rule is that if you screw with police, you have something coming that you don’t want. So, you either learn or you don’t. If you don’t learn, you may become a ‘special interest’ member of the public and find yourself getting undue police attention. Anyway, that’s the way it was when I was growing up. Nowadays, not only is everyone a legal scholar when it comes to constitutional rights but police are frequently recorded on camera phones and other devices. You may applaud that. I don’t. I prefer the old style. Learn to deal with police respectfully and decently and 99.99% of the time, you will not have a problem.
One of my favorite things was when someone would say “I know my rights.” I would make a deal with them, tell me what your rights are and where you get them from and I will leave you alone. I won every time.
Two of my uncles were police officers. Some of their pearls of wisdom about cops were these:
1. Don’t run and you won’t get chased.
2. Run, and you WILL get chased.
3. Nobody is in jail for singing off-key in the choir, and everybody in jail did NOT “just drive the get-away car.”
4. You don’t like washing clean dishes? Well, cops don’t like arresting innocent people for crimes they didn’t commit. Among other reasons, it’s a waste of time.
Are some cops douchebags? Yeah, some are–in roughly the same percentage or less as the douchebag fraction of the general population. There’s a big difference between douchebaggery (some cops) and having long since run out of patience for bullshit (most cops). Thus, if you don’t act like a shitbag in some way, you’ll probably never find out just how uncomfortable the back seat of a Crown Vic is.
As for the “racial profiling” thing, yeah, it happens. But it happens a lot less to black dudes who don’t look, sound, and act like “gangsta” shitheads, hispanics that don’t look, sound, and act like “cholo” shitheads, etc. If your idea of “culture” is trying your best to make everybody who sees you think you’re a criminal, is it the cops’ fault that they treat you like one?