Military Training Dangerous? Yeah.

| November 7, 2014

Unfortunately, we’ve lost another three.   They were lost in incidents involving military aircraft yesterday.

One member of the USAF was lost from Tyndall AFB, FL, yesterday when his F-16 crashed during a training mission over the Gulf of Mexico. His remains were recovered; the investigation into the cause of the loss continues.

Later the same day, two Army National Guard aviators out of Gowen Field near Boise International Airport, ID, were lost in the nighttime crash of an Army AH-64 aircraft.

Names of all three lost are being withheld pending notification of next of kin.

Yeah, military training can certainly be an adrenalin rush at times. But it’s often also deadly serious business – literally.

Rest in peace, my brothers-in-arms. May God comfort your surviving family and friends.

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rb325th

RIP… there is no such thing as a risk free day training in the Military.

Gravel

RIP

OldSoldier54

Crap.

May the Lord console those left behind.

2/17 Air Cav

The number of personnel killed in training each year is staggering. I knew a family who lost a son in Vietnam and another in a motor pool accident not long thereafter. One is on The Wall and the other is not. To us, to their friends, and most especially to their families, the pain is no less for one than the other. May they and all lost in service rest in peace.

3E9

A reminder again of what we all face or have faced on a daily basis. The business of defending our country is not without constant risk.
God Bless them and their families and friends.

Flagwaver

I feel for their loss and will pray for their loved ones.

I wonder if the problem was preventable through maintenance, though. With the budget cuts come… well, I’m preaching to the choir.

SJ

I remember Gen Bolling in VN going on rants when we had troopers killed in accidents. It was usually along the lines of the VC could just sit back and do nothing and we’d kill ourselves.

High Angle Hell in a Tank Battalion

Lost in training. The GA ARNG’s 48th Inf Bde went through several plus weeks of training at FT Irwin’s NTC, in preparation for DS/DS, without losing a single troop. Re deploying back to FT Stewart, we lost a Sargent on the plane flight back with a coronary. A couple of days later, another soldier died in a roll over crash returning gear to their armory. RIP brothers.

Pinto Nag

May God give peace to those that were lost, and their families. We are better for having had them among us.

ChipNASA

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Why the Flying MONKEY FUCK do *good men like this* have to die and supremely ass rat faced dildo licking fart sucking impotent cock gobblers like someone from the N.W. U.S. of A walk away from their exceptional and phenomenal
stupidity ಠ▃ಠ REPEATEDLY?!?!?!?!?? \(`O´)/
凸(`0´)凸 ᕦ(ò_óˇ)ᕤ

/there is no God…..ok, maybe there is, but he's not being nice right now.

Pinto Nag

It doesn’t seem fair at all, does it? Hang in there, Chip, because I think we’ll know the truth one day — one way or the other. That’s what I tell myself when I see things like this. Sometimes it’s the only way I can face another day.

OLD DIrt Dart

Hondo ask John if was in 1/75 on6 Nov 1976.CSM Cario and SP/4 Quick

OLD DIrt Dart

sorry that was the day Cario and Quick entangle on a jump. Could not remember if John was in 1st Ranger them or had move on

Jonn Lilyea

I remember that day. I had just PCS’d to Panama in October and ran into a bunch of the old crew at the Ancon Inn the weekend before they went back. CSM Caro and SGT Quick were entangled on Taylor DZ on the jump when they came back from Panama. So, no I wasn’t there at the time, but I remember.

Lurker Curt

This one is close to home, literally. The Guard chopper that went down was 10 miles from the house…
Condolences…

Poetrooper

Hondo, one of my big beefs with liberals is their lack of understanding that it is not just combat that is hazardous, it’s the entire profession that we sign on for. They just don’t get that and they never will.

The single greatest loss of life I personally witnessed in six years in the airborne infantry was not in Vietnam where I served half my tour as a fire team leader and grunt before moving up to battalion staff, but on a lazy afternoon at Fort Campbell sitting on the barracks steps cleaning commo gear.

A Huey was dropping jumpers on Yamato drop zone a mile or so away. After the first three or four sticks had jumped we lost interest until we heard a popping sound and looked up to see a cloud of smoke squirt out of the engine cowling.

The Huey immediately went into auto-gyro and began spiraling down from about six hundred feet or so. Then it just dropped the last couple of hundred feet and the next thing we saw was a fireball.

It was a sickening damned feeling just like losing a trooper in Nam was, but this was routine training and years before I served over there. As I consta

Poetrooper

I don’t know what happened but the site just cut me off before I’d finished my comment.

As I was saying, as I constantly remind the fearful libs, who cry that we must keep our troops out of harm’s way, just being in certain branches of the military puts you in harm’s way, without combat being a factor. If you train for a dangerous job, you will necessarily encounter dangerous situations, some of which can cost you your life through no fault of your own like those five troopers and three aviators who died at Fort Campbell that day.

That we have young Americans willing to accept such risks for the purpose of encountering greater future risks should make us all proud.

Old Poe, out.

JustAVet

Dangerous jobs no matter where we serve. RIP

Sparks

Rest In Peace each of you. Be it training or combat, death is death, and you each gave your lives for this country. God bless your families now.

John Robert Mallernee

When I came back from Viet Nam, I was stationed at Hunter Liggett Military Reservation, assigned to Combat Developments Experimentation Command (i.e., “CDEC”), which had its headquarters at Fort Ord, California.

Today, Fort Ord no longer exists, and Hunter Liggett Military Reservation is now Fort Hunter Liggett.

My company was composed almost entirely of recently returned Viet Nam veterans, and Fort Ord was still a Basic Combat Training post.

One day, we were ordered to participate in a Pass and Review Retreat ceremony at Fort Ord, along with several Basic Combat Training companies.

At one point, the cannon was fired.

I couldn’t BELIEVE the oh, so familiar, unmistakable sound I was hearing, of an artillery shell coming towards us, even as I saw men in front of me falling to the ground.

The ceremony continued as ambulances arrived to carry away the wounded.

As soon as the ceremony concluded, we saw, on the far corner of the parade ground, a lieutenant standing stiffly at attention, as THE commanding general was obviously chewing him out, up one side, and down the other.

What had happened was the gun crew had overlooked the muzzle cover, consisting of a length of chain attached to a spent shell casing, which was painted olive drab to match the color of the gun.

So, as a result of that incident, the muzzle cover was painted bright red, to reduce chances of it being accidentally overlooked.

When I was in Germany, a tank crew at Baumholder was killed when their tank ran off a cliff during night maneuvers.

Also, earlier at this web site, I commented about the basic trainee who collapsed in the gas chamber during CBR training (i.e., “Chemical, Biological, Radiological”), and had to be taken away in an ambulance.