Nicholas Kristof: Our Blind Spot About Guns
In the pages of the New York Times, Nicholas Kristof writes an opinion piece titled Our Blind Spot About Guns. Kristof isn’t the brightest bulb, we’ve talked about some of his idiot pieces before. Like the time he thought that we should cut our military, back in 2010 and again the following year when he advocating for a tax hike using the Clinton model. So what’s the little fellow want now? Well, gun control of course.
If we had the same auto fatality rate today that we had in 1921, by my calculations we would have 715,000 Americans dying annually in vehicle accidents.
Instead, we’ve reduced the fatality rate by more than 95 percent — not by confiscating cars, but by regulating them and their drivers sensibly.
We could have said, “Cars don’t kill people. People kill people,” and there would have been an element of truth to that. Many accidents are a result of alcohol consumption, speeding, road rage or driver distraction. Or we could have said, “It’s pointless because even if you regulate cars, then people will just run each other down with bicycles,” and that, too, would have been partly true.
Well, you can see where he’s going with his mud puddle deep intellect – if we regulate cars, why don’t we regulate guns the same way? Um, we already do regulate guns. Of course, before he gets there, it’s a lot of blather about how courts overturned attempts to regulate drivers and automobiles. How horses were frightened and noisy mechanical beasts roamed unchecked through the dusty streets at a high rate of speed. Finally, we accepted regulation of automobiles – so would we finally accept increased regulation of our firearms.
Kristof recognizes that that pesky 2d Amendment gets in the way of his theme, but that doesn’t stop him from plunge headlong into the morass. He writes;
There are similar technological and behavioral fixes that can ease the toll of gun violence, from expanded background checks to trigger locks to smart guns that recognize a thumbprint, just like my iPhone does.”
Some of these should be doable. A Quinnipiac poll this month found 92 percent support for background checks for all gun buyers.
He overlooks the questions in that poll where interviewees respond almost evenly on whether we need stricter gun control. The question that the poll people asked folks in regards to background checks was “59. Do you support or oppose requiring background checks for all gun buyers?” and it got 92% supporters and most gun buyers already submit to background checks.
The next question in the poll is “60. Do you support or oppose laws to prevent people with mental illness from purchasing guns?” an almost equal percentage, 89%, support that proposal. So any rational person would come away from that series of questions with the belief that Americans support backgrounds checks if they caught people with mental illness in that net. But not Kristof;
These steps won’t eliminate gun deaths any more than seatbelts eliminate auto deaths. But if a combination of measures could reduce the toll by one-third, that would be 10,000 lives saved every year.
Less than 1% of guns that were bought at gun shows that would be subject to the gun control laws that Democrats tried to pass last year are used in crimes according to the Center for Disease Control. How that would reduce the toll of gun deaths by a third is beyond me.
Gun manufacturers have been including trigger locks with new firearms for years – does Kristof suggest that the police check my guns in my home to see if I’m using trigger locks on my guns? As long as we’re trashing the 2d Amendment here, we might as well toss aside the 4th as well.
Like I said, Kristof is a dim bulb, but in several cases, folks feel better about themselves when they advocate for some of his proposals, so I’m just getting out in front of the stank ass hippies in regards to this smelly garbage.
Category: Gun Grabbing Fascists
Since when haven’t snot-spined bleeding heart liberals skewed the questions and results of their polls to make the results just what they wanted in the first place?
I had a great statistics professor….he told us during a presentation on methodology that “Numbers do not lie….but, you can make them say whatever you want them to say”.
Spike a survey with the right questions, and you will ALWAYS get the outcome you want.
So the fact that guns are already more regulated than cars doesn’t register in his world view. As long as he feels good that he said something, that’s what counts.
Exactly. How many illegal immigrants are out there driving around with no licence. As for Kristof, I wonder if we should tweak the 1st Amendment. Wonder what that pussy would think about that. Especially at a time when words can hurt people. Kristof, we can’t have that now can we. Say no to cyber bullying and all that shit. Words can lead to deaths, therefor we must regulate what you write and say. It’s in the name of safety after all.
Sadly the 1st Amendment is being ‘tweaked’. BHO et al have used the Espionage Act to go after whistleblowers and the reporters to whom they talked like rabid dogs. The sheer volume of what is classified and the ever increasing portion of info that is categorized as such SHOULD curl Americas butthairs or at least get the pucker-factor a’goin’.
Climb to Glory…Thank you. Where I live illegal aliens buy cars with cash and the minimum insurance required to get it off the lot. That’s the last insurance payment they make. Accident after accident with one and the police say, “I hope you have uninsured motorist coverage”. They in turn get a ticket for the accident and one for driving without insurance. The law doesn’t make a darned bit of difference to them. Neither does it to a criminal or mentally off person set on committing a crime with a gun. But in the minds of this ass hat and other liberals like him, if we just regulate enough we can stop all gun violence. Head down to east LA or any bad part of any large city and hand out flyers about the new regulations. See how far it gets with the locals.
Opinions are like elbows. Everybody has at least one, maybe two. He’s entitled to his opinion. However, it would be nice if he’d actually look at the statistics on how many people are dead and how they died before he concocts this kind of message.
It’s unfortunate that he had to fasten his attention on guns.
Deaths by vehicular means last time I looked were right around the 38,000 mark. Deaths by firearms (intentional) were around the 6,800 mark. IIRC, those figures were from the NVSS Mortality report, 2009. I’ll have to search my workstation but I believe that I do have those reports. 🙂
What the hell are you doing bringing facts and logic into this? Don’t you know that Gabby Gifford was shot?
First of all you little prick most firearm deaths are suicides using 2010 numbers from DOJ/FBI. (I just don’t care to check other years but generally accepted accounting is that suicide by guns is WAY higher)
I see this moron stating that having a gun in the home raises the likelyhood of a suicide 5 times… I’ve always had a problem with this number because it requires local law enforcement reporting and just doesn’t seem like a ‘good’ correlation. Are you going to tell me guns ‘haunt’ the spirit due to proximity?
I agree that the poor gang banging felons shouldn’t have guns but that is already illegal. We have a crisis of stupidity in the social engineering of our urban areas and the gun is just the needle on the seismometer.
If you keep LEO/Military armed while disarming citizens who is going to protect us from acts like that of Dorner?
-crickets-
That’s what I thought.
The car-gun argument has been done before. Michael Williamson had a nice response to it last year. It’s worth reading.
http://www.michaelzwilliamson.com/blog/item/we-need-to-regulate-cars-the-way-we-regulate-guns
If we regulated cars like we regulated guns, Porsches, Ferraris, Mercedes and BMWs would be banned from import into the US; no one could drive a car that held more than 5 passengers (high capacity assault vehicles you know); no performance mods (I would support a ban on certain exhaust modifications however); no driver’s license until 18 or 21; politicians and police chiefs would be able to deny certain persons a driver’s license. The sheer stupidity of the cars-guns comparison always amazes me.
Imagine if we regu7lated speech like we currently regulate firearms. Whenever this pops up in conversation, I like to ask people to use their same argument about regulating, banning, limiting, etc, but substitute the 1st amendment instead, and see how they like that. If they do, then you know you have a real-life fascist to hand.
Always remember the attorney who first kicked off product liability suits against guns saying they wee inherently unsafe and only intended for illegal uses climbing into his Ferrari at his “60 Minutes” interview.
These steps won’t eliminate gun deaths any more than seat belts eliminate auto deaths. But if a combination of measures could reduce the toll by one-third, that would be 10,000 lives saved every year.
That is a complete and total fabrication. There were 12650 murders in 2012 (last full year of the UCR on the FBI site) of those 69% were by firearms or 8730 (roughly).
The idea of adding suicides into the equation to build numbers and make his irrelevant point is incorrect on every level.
So many gun grabbers like to compare us to Japan in terms of gun murder, but no one likes to compare us to Japan when it comes to suicides…with no guns at all Japan is ranked 8th in the world in suicide rate at 23/100k residents against a US number that is almost have that at 12/100k. With their lack of guns and smaller population (127 versus 320 million) the Japanese kill themselves in almost the same numbers as people in the US.
The simple conclusion is that suicides will be successful regardless of the availability of guns. That renders the arguments of stupid sons of bitches like Mr. Kristof largely irrelevant.
Suicide is a terrible tragedy, but unfortunately it’s not going to be eliminated by removing one method of killing oneself as suicidal people just move to a different method.
Suicide prevention involves some heavy lifting that requires an approach beyond removing weapons, Mr. Kristof ignored the reality of suicide to make a point about firearm deaths. By ignoring that reality he has produced yet another article without form, substance, or useful meaning. Thank you Mr. Kristof for once again proving just how you wasted your parents money during your stint in college learning absolutely nothing of value to a reporter.
I hinted and you did the heavy lifting. Thank you for making the point salient.
(Insert good excuse for being a intellectual lightweight here)
(clears throat) Uh, guys . . . .
http://valorguardians.com/blog/?p=37307
(smile)
excellent post Hondo, I chose Japan because the grabbers always talk about Japan….but your point and data from the Norwegian countries is also useful. Comparing large diverse populations to small homogenous ones is never an accurate comparison but the grabbers love to make those connections on a regular basis.
Wasn’t me that did the work, amigo. The study’s authors (Kates and Mauser – and yeah, that’s really the 2nd author’s name) did the work.
One of the study’s conclusions is precisely what you say above: remove guns, and the number of suicides doesn’t drop. Those wanting to kill themselves merely find another tool.
And it was published in a Harvard University publication, no less. I’m still shaking my head in amazement on that.
Great argument and one I never thought of. I know the fallacies of the numbers the banners put forth adding in suicides and gangbanger deaths and counting “children” as those up to 26 or 30yrs old depending on the gunbanner to boost the numbers but comparing us to Japan is interesting.
Yeah, that last (counting “children” who aren’t) is quite common among those of the left.
Another example: “teen pregnancy” stats include those who are 18 and 19 – and are thus legally adults. And they include both married and unmarried women.
A rather large number of those “teen pregnancies” are thus actually among adult women. But the real statistics of concern – e.g., statistics regarding underage teen pregnancy – are rarely ever discussed. Hell, even finding them is typically very difficult.
I have a typo in my stats, Japan is at 21.4 / 100k in suicides, they are ranked 8th we are ranked 33rd…
I’ll state my case once more, though I probably sound like a broken record. I am, anyway, consistent with my opinion. 🙂
I believe that the entire 1968 gun control act, and all additions since, should be repealed. Everything. Gone. period. There should be NO regulations regarding firearms, except for manufacturing standards.
Any citizen should have the right to purchase any firearm that he/she can afford, and carry it anywhere they see fit, with one caveat: If a property owner doesn’t want any firearms on his property/business/whatever, then he/she has every right to post such a notice and should have it respected. But Everywhere else ought to be open to anyone carrying a weapon.
Firearm ownership is a RIGHT, not a privilege. It carries with it the idea that you may carry a weapon, but you will also be held accountable for your actions. THAT is all we need: for the courts to simply hold people accountable for their actions.
Firearms laws, like so many others we don’t need, are prophylactic laws, designed to “wishfully” prevent potential actions of a citizen or group. THAT is blatantly unAmerican as it considers everyone to be potentially guilty without any benefit of trial, appeal, evidence, etc. Consider how it would be if we treated the 1st amendment with the same disrespect we treat the 2nd.
It’s way past time that the entire federal government was reined in. That entire sections of laws, whole agencies, etc, were done away with, and our entire legal system rewritten with the idea that citizens are free to act and live however they wish, provided that they harm no one else. The laws should reflect holding the citizen responsible for his actions, judged by his peers at trial if needs be.
But that’s my 2-cent’s worth. I realize that other’s mileage will vary, but that’s how I’d like to see things.
V/R
And I thought I was an extremist for wanting to repeal the 1986 Volker-Somebody Firearms Owners Protection Act (I think that’s what that travesty was called).
Maybe we can get a Republican president with a “phone and a pen” to take care of the 1986 AND 1968 laws….
I’ve always found this irrational fear of guns rather odd as people don’t seem to have an irrational fear of cars when automobiles kill over 6X the amount of people every year that guns do. A friend of mines daughter was walking on the side of the road and was struck and killed by a drunk driver. My friend didn’t start holding protests and writing letters to newspapers demanding cars and alcohol be banned. She wanted the driver executed for it.
I really don’t get it
Tell your friend to be careful what she asks for.
I am attaching a link. It comes with a WARNING. This is a facebook link to a video showing ISIS executing people in Syria or Iraq. If you decide to watch this, you can not “un-see” it. All of the flags, captions, and speech are in Arabic and my Arabic sucks so that is why I don’t know the who and the where. These assholes are proud of themselves. If you don’t want to see a video showing people being executed with rifles and pistols, don’t go there. Poetrooper, after your post about RVN you may want to skip this one.
https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=1477435019161375&id=100006846726308
Although this is ISIS, my friends in Israel pointed out that this is one of the ways that Hamas motivates civilians in Gaza to stay around rocket launch sites.
Jonp, for what it’s worth, a drunk ran into my dad’s car. My dad was driving and his best friend was sitting in the passenger seat, his best friend was killed in the collision. During court testimony my dad was poorly treated by the drunk’s lawyer. The lawyer accused my dad of being partially responsible for his best friend’s death. My dad never got over that. My dad was a good man and he didn’t deserve to be treated that way and I think that drunk driving can be murder.
And some lawyers need to be familiarized with axe handles so they can learn manners. I’m not good with axe handles and I am a slow learner so I volunteer to help; I will keep practicing on them until I get it right.
Most, but not all, lawyers are respectable.
I refuse to open those videos on bookFace due to their data collection BS but if it’s the one that’s been circulating of the men in the back of a dump truck then in a ditch and the slab next to the water…seen it.
Those ISIS terrorist sh*tbags deserve every damn bit if evil the perpetrate +100 times over. The vids they freely post of what seems to be random drive-bys and ruthlessness in attacking police,military, and purported infidel civilians is abhorrent.
And to think a non-state jihadi group is approaching parity in arms with the country they fight.
But disarming the masses is a good thing because this as an option is more palatable.
That’s the one. Yeah.
This idiot Kristoff with his claims about “safe gun” technology reminds me of a similar display of idiocy I once encountered concerning a different subject.
A nice lady once rolled into my station in a panic wanting to report a vegetation fire (using her cell phone to dial 911 apparently escaped her) south of town. The fire she wanted to report was in fact a smal prescribed burn being jointly conducted by our department and the US Forest Service, and had lots of engines, hand crews, and dozers on it. I politely informed her of this, and she admonished me for not making people aware of it. I pointed out that announcements had been made daily for the past week on the local TV news, print media, and radio stations, and that we had put up signs and billboards on numerous local roads, including 20 miles of freeway, that were kinda hard to miss.
She calmed down a bit, and then declared the we should still “make the smoke a different color so people will know.”
I admit I struggled for a moment to answer that. Like most firefighters, I’m fairly direct in my verbal communication and don’t hold back profanity, but my initial reaction of, “Are you really THAT fucking stupid?” was clearly not the best choice for dealing with the public. I finally settled on, “We’ll, ma’am, when modern science comes up with a way for us to do that with natural vegetation, I assure you we will.”
Kristoff is clearly that kind of stupid: i.e. the kind that thinks he’s a genius while being the intellectual inferior of the average goat with a head injury. “Smart guns” are a pipe dream, but Hollywood puts them in movies, so they must be real, right? And I don’t even feel like addressing his other stupidity right now.
+1
A bit off-topic, but a story how truly stupid peope can be.
My son was playing little league and we arrived early and I was tossing him a few to help him work on his swing.
He had one pop up behind the backstop and over the fence and land near the snack bar where some yuppie terd was walking with his toddler.
The idiot came raging over to the field and had the idiocy to ask me ” Are you sure this is the best place to do that?”
It took all I had just to say…”Its the baseball field we are playing baseball”