Stolen Valor Part III

| March 26, 2014

There are times that I write something and I know I will be the only person that ever sees it. I do this to get ideas straight in my head or to put something down so that I can think about other things.  Then there are the times that I write something with every intention of letting it be seen, but for one reason or the other it does not say what I wanted it to. The words are there but the feeling is not.

When I wrote the Stolen Valor pages it was with the intent that it be three parts. I had an idea for part three and have it down on paper, but it does not say what I wanted it to.  The words are there but the feeling is not.  I decided to let part three be one of those things that no one but me, and the poor bastard that has to go through my computer when I die or go crazy ever sees. It did serve a purpose, I have my thoughts straight. I know what needs to be said, so let’s so if I can get the words in the right order.

I have been asking myself why someone would go through the trouble to pretend to be a veteran. Or if they were a vet to make up stories or insert themselves in well-known stories as a major player. I could write page after page one why, but there is no need the answer is three simple words.

Low Self Worth.

I bet you thought I was going to say “They are assholes”   nope, it’s low self-worth.   Every person has an opinion of themselves.  We place a value on our souls, people that pretend to be Military Heroes, Police, Firefighters etcetera do not value themselves.  Because they have no self-worth they are not capable of valuing another person. They have a huge Ego and a constant need for praise. No matter what the issue is they will find a way to make it about themselves.

We all know that Valor Thieves almost always have other problems. They live in a world of their own creation that they are the center of.  They very often are con artist. Most of the time they are highly intelligent, and will stick by their lies to the end. The best of them have stories that are based on half-truths, they expand on that bit of truth until it become a huge lie. The thing to remember is that they honestly believe they are telling the truth.  We have all seen this over and over.  The Valor Thieves life of make believe is so important that they have based their whole life some times on the lies, they have told them so often that they become real to them, to face the truth is a fate worse than death.

Raise your hand if you have ever stood at an airport or pier side and had a loved one hug you and not let go, They have you and they are crying, you are trying to be a stoic but you are close to tears yourself.  Your love one holds you so tight and they smell you.  Both of you know that it may be the last time you ever touch.  They are afraid and you are too. But you got on that plane or boat anyway because it was what you volunteered for.   You make it home and a year or so later you are doing it again, but this time it’s worse because you know what you are in for, the loved one is thinking we got lucky the first time, it can’t last.

Now raise your hand if you have ever been the one that had to hug your loved one for what might be the last time.  As they walk away a piece of your soul if with them, and will stay with them until they are back safe.  You worry every second. Every time the phone rings or a strange car comes down your road you know true fear.

The Valor Thief Steals your pain and calls it his. He steals your terror and cast it aside because he can’t understand. He steals the part of your soul that you send to war with your son.

He must be stopped.  That’s why sites like this one, are so important. They give us a voice. People like Jonn, Mark, Hondo, Mary Shantag, Scotty put it all on the line to stop them. They know that they will be dragged thru the mud and courts over and over. But they keep on because it matters.

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ChipNASA

And we all will do our level best to help because we’ve stood there….raising our right hand, dragging our bags down a mobility line for the umteenth time, sitting/standing/laying in the sun, rain, snow, mud, dirt, sand, with our comrades in arms or alone.

We’ve actually been there.

Veritas Omnia Vincit

Sadly I don’t think they will be stopped. The obvious, egregious liars end up on this site because they take their lies so far they can’t avoid running into someone who will expose their lies. The less obvious guys will never get caught, precisely for the reasons you mention. A half truth embellished with small amounts of lies is difficult to root out, the man who says I was kicking in doors in Afghanistan when his records show he was stateside repairing copiers at an office on base will be caught and exposed.

But the more cunning liar, the liar whose records put him close to something is more difficult to catch and often goes unnoticed. It’s the same with liars everywhere, those whose lies are the most outlandish or least based on an expected reality are exposed. The liars whose lies are covered with bits of truth remain undetected for years. I’ve seen those people who get caught after years of lies only when they accelerate their misdeeds had they not become too greedy they would never have been detected…it makes me consider how many more people who didn’t get as greedy go unnoticed. That’s the worst part of all of this to me, the idea that now I think in these terms of how many liars are at this very moment stealing from children’s sports program, stealing from their employers, or just lying about their resumes and getting away with it because they’ve kept their lies small enough to slip through and travel unnoticed. I have less expectation of the truth than I used to, and I suspect many of you have found yourselves doubting first and accepting second instead of the other way around….that’s a sea change in view point and one that has been discouraging. For that these liars deserve all the exposure and negative Karma they earn.

OldSoldier54

“That’s the worst part of all of this to me …”

Doubting and wondering first … a sea change, indeed.

May the Lord, who is gracious and forgiving, open the eyes of those who are responsible for this sea change. Bur if, in their free will, they refuse, then may God damn them all to Hell for all Eternity. Every. Single. Swinging. Richard. Of them.

HS Sophomore

The smaller ones, the serial embellishers, as opposed to flat-out outlandish sociopathic liars like Crotchrot and Soupy, at least give me a small measure of comfort, although they too are despicable. The reason is, if they are good enough that they manage to fly beneath the radar, it probably means their lies haven’t spread very far, and it also means that they’re realistic enough so that the vets that hear them won’t call them out. In other words, they’re probably close enough to the real thing that they won’t give the American public fake, ridiculous and erroneous ideas about military service (no throat cutting or baby killing stories like the massively fake guys love to tell so much). So, I guess there’s that. Now of course they’re still terrible, but if we just take care of flat-out liars, we can undo a lot of the damage these fakers do to, since it’s those guys who do the vast majority of it. Small comfort.

Green Thumb

I wrote a 35 page paper on Stolen Valor.

CWORet

You summarize it nicely, though.

“Turds”

Sparks

Enigma4you Thank you again and again this will go in my library.

UpNorth

Thank you, E4Y, well said.

Adam Fenner

Well said. Very well said.

HS Sophomore

Couldn’t have said it better, E4Y. Rock on!

BOILING MAD CPO

Once upon a time when I was a Seaman stationed anywhere, I would listen to my civilian seatmate in any bar, telling war stories. I figured it was a cheap price to pay for a free beer. Who knows, some of the stories could have been true. BZ

Joseph Welsh

Nice piece . . .
am reminded of something I read long ago about Vietnam vets and draft dodgers . . . that one day in the future, the draft dodgers are going to look at the choice they made and find themselves coming up short when compared to the veterans who served. I think that for some, the chickens are coming home to roost.

Robert Scott Waldby

As you all know I have a phony in my family . His ego is bigger than he is. last night i chatted with him on face.I asked him if he was working, he laughed and said that he was getting drunk and playing war commander. because it was the anniversary of the last time my dad and him drank together. I think the reason was that his conscience was getting to him, when my dad needed him the most james was very rarely around. when my dad needed him to get food he took off with his crack head girl friend.I live in new york my dad and brother lived in north carolina,my mother who also lives in ny.and myself was sending my father food through the mail. this was going on while my dad was dying of small cell lung cancer that was caused by agent orange which he was exposed to in vietnam. My brother has no self worth there is no doubt in my mind unless my brother just doesn’t care about any one but himself.

Robert Scott Waldby

By the way I liked what you wrote in the article . I had my own demons I had deal with when I returned home from germany,some i delt with the right way and some i delt with the wrong way. The thing is that I learned from my mistakes and it made me a better person.I was stationed in Erlangen germ. Ferris Barracks 1st.ad 2/6 mech.inf during desert shield and desert storm. the worst thing was not knowing whether we were going or not ,when we were on home guard searching buildings and the school for bombs had machine gun nests set up in front of the school and family housing,searching every car and not knowing what to expect. Some of the german nationals out side protesting us and the children asking me if i think their dad or mom will ever come and seeing the look in their faces and not knowing what to say to them. I much rather face the enemy. and people like my brother make me sick.

Robert Scott Waldby

Thank you Egnigma very much usually I don’t talk much about my experiences when i served, I just keep things to my self unless I see or hear something that really pisses me off. I will contribute my voice when I can. Again thank you.

Robert Scott Waldby

I just want to thank you for letting me join this is the first time that i talked about it . again thank you.

Combat Historian

Robert Scott Waldby, appreciate your input here. As for your brother, he is an adult and responsible for his own actions, so you and your sister and your families have no need to apologize. From one vet to another, hope you stick around and contribute your thoughts and opinions here as you see fit. Best and take care…

Robert Scott Waldby

Thank you Combat historian , I will stick around. And contribute when i can. You all have my best wishes and take care Again thank you.

CAC

72 hours ago a friend of mine sent me a link to “military phonies”. The content of what I saw shocked me. It contained a full and candid “expose” on a person that I know well and have been friends with for 13 years. Our interaction and friendship during those years was centered around a group of people that shared a passion for 4x4ing and the outdoors. I have been privy to some rather colourfull “war” stories that at times were so full of “BS” it was comical to listen to. Being a former service member myself (in a European country) I did not have any problems in seperate fact from “effect”. I also did not take offence to the claims contained in the info as I with rock solid certaincy knew that this person would NEVER ever harm anyone, defraud anyone etc by this behavior. Despite being extremely untruthful about his military service and making claims of his past life serving that were so “loopy” it would be hard to not smile and utter “yeah right” this individual was and is (if you look beyond the issues) a genuine guy who would never hesitate to help anyone with anything if asked. Does that justify claiming being a special forces ninja avenger that saved the world 23 times?. ABSOLUTLY NOT. And let me make this clear, I am not trying to defend in anyway. I think there are 2 kinds of people who create false identities by claiming service and rank that are lies: 1. Scumbags who’s intent is to prey on others for their own gain, it being money or similar. 2. Individual’s with a “mental” problem such as self-esteem/ a need to be liked perhaps thinking the only way to obtain this and mask other issues is to create a story that is based on related experiences ( Service that is average in nature) then spun to a point where the person starts to believe the lies. In my opinion #1 needs no mercy. #2 …..? Just my 2 cents worth. Again do NOT think I am trying… Read more »