Most Americans oppose “punishing” Syria
The Washington Post reports that in their latest polling, most Americans oppose any strike against Syria;
Nearly six in 10 oppose missile strikes in light of the U.S. government’s determination that Syria used chemical weapons against its own people. Democrats and Republicans alike oppose strikes by double digit margins, and there is deep opposition among every political and demographic group in the survey. Political independents are among the most clearly opposed, with 66 percent saying they are against military action.
I’m not saying that we shouldn’t strike Syria merely because the polling says we shouldn’t, there are myriad reasons and our foreign policy shouldn’t be conducted by opinion polls. But the poll is entirely the fault of this administration’s refusal to lead Americans to war. “Because f*** you…that’s why” is not explaining the reasons we should take military measures against Syria. I know that’s how this administration has shoved their policies down Americans’ throats, but its only because those linguine-spined Republicans don’t want to be called racists for opposing unAmerican policy that has nothing to do with race.
Republicans will cave to the will of the President because it’s no skin off their nose if we end up in shooting war again. They can always blame the Democrats and hope none of the shit splashes back on them. Republicans have consistently voted with this President passing the most ridiculous shit because they don’t want to appear to be meanies.
No one is asking what victory will look like after this “punishment” of the Syrian government or what our national security interests are like they would under the direction of their own party’s president.
Of course, the Left is no better; Where are the hippie human shields flocking to Syria to protect their baby milk factories? Where are the congressmen on the roof of Assad’s palace declaring him more trustworthy than our own president?
There is no leadership in Washington these days, there is only politicians punching tickets for reelection hoping that this whole Syria thing blows over in time for Americans to forget about it before the midterm elections.
Category: Barack Obama/Joe Biden, Congress sucks
The best way for Americans to forget about Syria is for America to not get involved there.
Now, do I get to bill the WH for a consulting fee, or what?
I don’t think most Americans trust this administration enough to have them lead us to War. They may not want to say it out loud,but I think the Emporer has seriously degraded the level of faith and confidence even his most ardent supporters had for him.
Now you simply see the political elite sticking together in DC in my opinion, not doing their job which is to act on the will of the people… Sure, sometimes we need to be told we are acting like spoiled petulant children, but this is not one of those times.
I have no faith or confidence in the ability of the gang from “Amateurs R US” to engage in any new Wars. Even if they think they can just loba hundred cruise missiles and walk away, that is just not how it works! This has more about the Emporer saving face than Syrians killing each other, regardless of how they are doing it.
Yesterday Matt Drudge tweeted:
Why would anyone vote republican.
He is correct. And Boehner sucks.
With Kerry already promising troops on the ground in emergency situations it’s not hard to see how this is going to play out….the public is tired of the GWOT…anybody with a half a brain is going to ask if Syria means another 12 year commitment to the ME of troops and money without any real opportunity to achieve stabilization or pacification.
Looking at Afghanistan and Iraq, it would be wise to question a US military “commitment” such as it is these days. We don’t fight wars of conquest we fight wars of attrition and when we get tired of them we leave, whether or not any useful outcome was achieved.
In Syria they can’t even define the start point never mind the mid-point and endgame. That’s a sure recipe for a negative outcome. But the folks who clean Obama’s nut sack every day are blowing cool fresh air all over him down there and reassuring him that there’s nothing to worry about because everybody loves him and he’s just the most special snowflake president we’ve ever had….
Most Americans are stupid as shit. If they weren’t, that knucklehead wouldn’t be in the White House and no one ever would have bought a Pet Rock, a Chia Pet, or a Grand Funk Railroad album.
Halp us Jon Cary, we R stuck here n Syria.
#1 PintoNag: there’s plenty Bodaprez wants America to not pay attention to: recent news on an economic downturn, the 40,000 longshoreman’s union left the AFL-CIO because Obamacare was not single-payer, and taxed their members, the IRS, amnesty, gun control, and Benghazi.
Bodaprez desparately needs most of America focused on Syria.
Then there’s this exchange:
Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff Gen. Martin Dempsey couldn’t answer what exactly the U.S. was seeking in Syria Tuesday during questioning from Sen. Bob Corker (R., Tenn.) about a resolution authorizing military action there:
DEMPSEY: The answer to whether I support additional support for the moderate opposition is yes.
CORKER: And this authorization will support those activities in addition to responding to the weapons of mass destruction?
DEMPSEY: I don’t know how the resolution will evolve, but I support –
CORKER: What you’re seeking. What is it you’re seeking?
DEMPSEY: I can’t answer that… what we’re seeking.
And this guy is the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs, advising the POTUS?
It’s ridiculous that we are having this debate. Syria is not the first place where civilians have been killed fduring a civil war. If Assad had carpet bombed the neighborhood and killed the same number of people, I highly doubt Barry would be this apoplectic. In both cases, loads of men, women an children would be dead. Syria just needs to handle their business.
And Putin is telling us/Bodaprez to mind our/his own damned business.
http://news.msn.com/world/putin-warns-west-on-syria-action
Lets packitup already
The delegate from DC stated that she, Holmes, was really not in favor of this but would vote for it to give support to Bath House Barry. This nation is so screwed!
And Syria does not care if Bodaprez starts WorldWar III.
http://worldnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/09/04/20326519-report-syria-wont-change-position-even-if-there-is-world-war-iii?lite>1=43001
As usual, [wannabe] Emperor B. Hussein 0bama is going to do as he pleases, consequences be damned. Whatever the outcome is, it won’t be his fault ( Will he blame Bush for this, too?), and his sniveling media sycophants will cover for him in any way they can while kissing his ass like there’s no tomorrow!
Hanoi john mccain has joined al quiada’s airforce and has kicked jane fonda off of the anti-aircraft gun! Jumped on the anti-aircraft gun and is now firing at and trying to shoot down his fellow republicans who vote NO!
OK, vnwarprotestor, you fucking shithole, you need to know a few things.
1 – McCain was a prisoner of war at the Hanoi jail commonly referred to as the Hanoi Hilton. He was tortured by the VietCong, along with a large number of other US pilots, some of whom barely survived. He’s my generation, not yours. He served, you didn’t. I know what he went through. YOU DO NOT.
2 – You can stop comparing him to Jane Fonda, who spent a good deal of her free time hobnobbing and sucking up the VietCong and getting lots of PR photos out of it. She was at least as obnoxious as you are and has never apologized for being a traitorous bitch, and never will.
3 – You keep proving over and over that you are not only ignorant of history, you don’t have anything useful to say.
So SHUT THE FUCK UP AND GO APOLOGIZE TO YOUR MOTHER FOR WHAT YOUR FATHER FORGOT TO DO WHEN YOU WERE CONCEIVED. You are a loathsome, dimwitted piece of trash and an embarassment to the human species.
And you were NOT even alive during the Vietnam war, so you have nothing to say about any of it. Got that, shithole?
Hey vietnampissboy, answer me, did you even make it to the fifth grade before you dropped out of school and started drawing welfare? You should have been a blowjob!
Sic em girl!
All those sperm swimming & that’s the one that got through. VNWarprotester is proof that siblings shouldn’t breed
If name calling and juvenile sexual inuendo is what you do all day I am glad I didn’t get inducted after being drafted that would get old in a hurry! At least the gay slurs seem to have disapeared back then thats mostly what you heard guys questioning each others manhood and calling each other homos! So a little enlightenment is better then none. NO! on syrian war and don’t forget to paint your hands red like code pink when you tell your congressperson to vote no on obama’s war.
I’m glad you didn’t get inducted either. Whoever had the misfortune of being your NCO would have worn out countless pairs of boots kicking you in your stupid ass.
@ #20: CODEPink’s hands were painted red and stayed that way a very long time ago, with the help of their beloved socialist Congress critters, you jackwagon.
In other news, Putin isn’t going to capitulate to Obama’s call for a separate meeting
on Syria. “Ahead of the G20 summit Putin said he believed that his U.S. colleague was a good and easy partner to negotiate with. His position is understandable and it is interesting to work with him, the Russian president said.”
Pravda compares Obama’s latest move to that of Hilter. “President Obama plans to obtain congressional approval for military action. He said that while he had the authority to launch a military operation without the approval of Congress, the country would be stronger and its actions would be more effective if the military actions were supported by Congress. He added that the country needed this debate. Obama is so keen to prosecute al-Assad that he is ready to act without the approval of the UN Security Council, which, according to the U.S. president, does not want Assad to pay. Once again the system of international law is replaced if not with the sole will of the American President, but the decision of the National Congress. A world dictator with the manners of Hitler is born in front of our eyes.”
You can’t make this stuff up, seriously.
#8/Retired Marine: That exchange sounds like it was written for British Comedy TV.
It probably ends with the Senator voting to support the measure.
From Ace’s place: 2002 speech updated. Asterisks are the changes for today.
“What I am opposed to is a dumb war. What I am opposed to is a rash war. What I am opposed to is the cynical attempt by **Paul Wolfowitz Samantha Power and Susan Rice*** and other armchair, weekend warriors in this administration to shove their own ideological agendas down our throats, irrespective of the costs in lives lost and in hardships borne.
What I am opposed to is the attempt by political hacks like ***David Axelrod*** to distract us from a rise in the uninsured, a rise in the poverty rate, a drop in the median income – to distract us from corporate scandals and a stock market that has just gone through the worst month since the Great Depression. That’s what I’m opposed to. A dumb war. A rash war. A war based not on reason but on passion, not on principle but on politics. Now let me be clear – I suffer no illusions about **Bashar Assad**. He is a brutal man. A ruthless man. A man who butchers his own people to secure his own power. He has repeatedly defied UN resolutions, thwarted UN inspection teams, developed chemical and biological weapons, and coveted nuclear capacity. He’s a bad guy. The world, and the **Syrian** people, would be better off without him.
But I also know that **Assad** poses no imminent and direct threat to the United States or to his neighbors, that the **Syrian** economy is in shambles, that the**Syrian** military a fraction of its former strength, and that in concert with the international community he can be contained until, in the way of all petty dictators, he falls away into the dustbin of history.”