Judge deliberates Breanna’s fate; NY Times wrings hands
The Associated Press reports that the defense has rested in the Breanna Manning spy trial and now the judge will deliberate the outcome in her mind, since Breanna chose to not have a jury;
Army Col. Denise Lind began deliberating Friday after nearly two months of conflicting evidence and arguments about the 25-year-old intelligence analyst. A military judge, not a jury, is hearing the case at Manning’s request.
Lind said she will give a day’s public notice before reconvening the court-martial to announce her findings. The most serious charge is aiding the enemy, which carries a potential life sentence in prison.
Meanwhile, the New York Times frets over the prosecutor’s closing argument that Manning is guilty of “aiding the enemy”.
That charge has never been brought in a leak case, and the theory behind it could establish a precedent with implications for investigative journalism in the Internet era. But Major Fein said it was justified in Private Manning’s case. Prosecutors are seeking a life sentence.
“Pfc. Manning was not a humanist; he was a hacker,” Major Fein said, adding: “He was not a whistle-blower. He was a traitor, a traitor who understood the value of compromised information in the hands of the enemy and took deliberate steps to ensure that they, along with the world, received it.”
So, the Times is worried that, if Manning is found guilty, it will have a chilling effect on the people that the New York Times depends upon to excoriate political entities the Times doesn’t like – disloyal traitors. As well they should be.
As with Eddie Snowden, my dislike of Manning stems from the fact that he took an oath and broke the oath, it doesn’t matter what the information was that either of them released to the public, it’s that we can’t have a precedence set that low level intelligence operatives get to declassify and release information to whomever and where ever they see fit. Immature little princesses don’t get to decide what information gets released to our enemies.
If Manning and Snowden get away with their treachery, it devalues the oaths, and if we can’t take each other at our words, what is left of society?
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Ok, JAX, but when you say you sympathize with Manning for his segregration from the rest of the prison population and think he should be in the general population, you fail to take into consideration that his crime involves a serious breach of intelligence security and that if anything happens to the little mudsucker — anything at all — he might not get the punishment he so richly deserves.
I don’t have any sympathy for him at all. Criminals are in prison for a reason — they’re criminals. They committed crimes. They’re lucky to be alive. In other countries, they’d be dead by now, maybe without any kind of trial.
Also #49, it is my understanding that rapists are not a well-liked group in prison. That’s information I was given during all the classes I had to take during my orientation. In fact, some Hispanic gangs (particularly Surenos) don’t even tolerate disrespect towards female staff members in the prison because part of the rules are that you don’t disrespect females. As I am a female, I was instructed it is NOT wise to pat search any Surenos up against the wall, as you may make it seem as though they disrespected you.
#51, If you’ve ever seen a SHU, I would think you also would have a little sympathy. The outdoor rec area is a lot like being in an animal shelter. While I understand that some of them truly do need to be there, you can’t lose sight of the fact that we’re still talking about human beings. Months on end of solitary confinement would be absolute torture in my opinion. I know I wouldn’t be able to handle it. And that’s why I have sympathy for him– because he’s already endured that much and hasn’t even been found guilty of the crime. And I’d be absolutely shocked if he was found not guilty.
JAX, you need to remember he put himself there by his own criminal acts. For that, he gets no sympathy from me, or from most of the people here. He knew exactly what he was doing and didn’t care who got hurt by it – and many people DID get hurt and killed by what he did.
Nothing personal in this, but if you’re that softhearted, you’re going to have a problem with prisoners in general, never mind that slimy little creep. You’d be better off working at an animal shelter as an animal cop, or a vet tech.
Actually, I don’t feel that’s true. You don’t know me and don’t know my personality. One of my friends who worked at the Supermax on Florence says I have the perfect personality for this line of work. You have to have the ability to act firm, fairly, and consistently…..and, as the other CO’s say, don’t forget they’re inmates, but don’t ever forget they’re human beings. So thanks for your opinion, but since you don’t know me you can keep it.
Of course, this is a case I’ve followed and know a little bit about. It’s never a good idea to get to know too much about the inmates you work with. That’s when you might start treating them differently. That’s a fact I’m aware of.
Another thing that is said a lot by the CO’s is that it’s not our job to punish them. That’s what the courts are for. The CO’s job is to supervise them and keep the inmates from escaping. Everyone here is so quick to punish Manning and would even be the one willing to pull the trigger in a firing squad. That’s not anyone’s place though. He’ll receive what he has coming to him.
“I would think you also would have a little sympathy.” Jax, sympathy, in the dictionary, is found between shit and syphilis. As Ex said, if you’re ever going to work inside a prison, I do believe that you’re going to have a very hard time.
Just look out for inmates with socks in their hands, most times, there will be a Master Lock or a rock inside that sock.
I don’t need to know anything more about you than what you’ve already said. You’re the most vulnerable person in that prison because you’ve followed this case, which you should never have done to start with, and you already have ‘sympathy for the devil’.
You are the most likely to be conned by any and all of the prisoners who look for the vulnerable sort — that’s you — and play on every weak part of you they can find. You’ll be lucky if you live through it, in fact.
You gave yourself away with all those key words and phrases. You should really consider finding another kind of job before you get hurt or killed.
This is starting to get way off topic from Bradley Manning. I 100% guarantee you I’m not, but I can see how you think that. I mean, my god, I called inmates human beings! How dare I?! I never said trust them and become their best friend. A little respect goes a long way. Most of the time, when a CO is attacked, it’s because an inmate feels they were disrespected. And every single person I’ve talked to so far who has made a career out of this has stressed that you must talk to them like they’re human beings and treat them with respect. Tell them no if they don’t have it comin, but still be respectful. So, in the end, I actually feel like I’d be safer than a lot of you guys who wanna go in swinging your dicks around, showing the inmates who the alpha male is. But I can’t lie and pretend that wouldn’t be funny to see.