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| May 16, 2013

Excuse my language, but it looks like the guy who manages the sexual assault response program at Fort Campbell has turned himself in to the police for violating an order of protection, according to the Washington Post in an Associated Press story;

Lt. Col. Darin Haas (HAHZ’) turned himself in to police in Clarksville, Tenn., late Wednesday on charges of violating an order of protection, and stalking. Master Sgt. Pete Mayes, a spokesman for the Army post on the Tennessee-Kentucky line, said Haas was immediately removed as manager of a program meant to prevent sexual harassment and assault and encourage equal opportunity.

Haas and his ex-wife have orders of protection against each other, Mayes said. The two are involved in a child custody fight, Clarksville Police Sgt. Chuck Gill said.

The article also says that Haas was due to retire soon, so I guess he couldn’t wait to embarrass the Army, especially this week. Haas was an AG branch officer.

Maybe the Defense Department needs to just fire all of their counselors and shut down their sexual assault and response program. But I guess that would be punishing the innocent like making everyone sit through an 8-hour mandatory training class. I’m thinking that this wouldn’t raise an eyebrow at the Washington Post if the president wasn’t wading through of his own shit at the moment and they need a distraction.

Thanks to Andy (I think) for the link.

Category: Military issues

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Hondo

Great. Just freaking great.

Jumpmaster

Don’t be so fast to condemn this guy. His ex-wife called the police and made a complaint. Was she telling the truth? After all, Hell hath no fury like a woman scorned.

ANCCPT

I feel like this issue of sexual assault in the military is a symptom of something larger. As a health care provider, I have to wonder if there’s a correlation between the increasing numbers of reported sexual assault and steadily rising numbers of soldiers taking their own lives. A decade of war can leave the most disciplined fighting force tired and deeply stressed, and the long term implications of the constant low grade stressors aren’t well known. There may be some deep seated, far ranging problems in our Armed Forces. We need to hop on this, fast and hard. We have a job to do, and we can’t do it if we are constantly distracted by this kind of shit.

That said, criminal activity is criminal activity. Those found guilty need to be pinned to the wall.

Rob In NH

I sat through the 3 day stand down after Tailhook, and that was a total waste of time. Punish the entire Navy for the stupidity of a few high and mighty pilots. This will be no different… A waste of time.

Nik

Don’t they have some sorta psychological testing for folks before they get put in that kind of billet?

A Proud Infidel

I agree with #3. Thanks to the extremely stupid actions of a few, everyone has to pay for it and be treated like an idiot while suffering through it. We’ve been on a wartime footing for over a decade,training, education, and benefits are being slashed among other things while the self-coronated elite in DC enjoy every luxury they can, and Vets are just supposed to sing “Happy, happy, joy, joy….”. Maybe that’s why B-HO and company hate us, we don’t dance and sing for them over a “free” phone, Public Housing,…

OWB

Not to minimize the pain and suffering of real victims of sexual abuse because when it is real it can be very serious trauma, but making things up and creating something of a crisis where one either does not exist or the “problem” is at a rate much less than among the general population is beyond absurd.

This “crisis” smells like a contrived tactic to once again discredit the military.

Of course instances of sexual abuse should not be tolerated. But the military is quite capable of dealing with it without oversight. Or it used to be. Statistically, I would certainly expect that they are doing a better job of it than any other organization in the country. Probably more cases, as a percentage of the total membership, of it among members of Congress than the military.

USMCE8Ret

I’m starting to think the reason there is a rise of sexual assaults in the military is because the SAPRS are causing all the assaults.

Green Thumb

Maybe just cut AG all together.

The Shield of Shame.

Need more IN.

Anonymous

Great, military folk won’t be allowed to have sex without chain of command approval next…

Elric

2 agreed and 5 no. If these officers are guilty so be it. However I feel that they should have the presumption of innocence we out to be entitled to. There should also be penalties for false and groundless a causation a to include prison time. These high profile jobs come with exceedingly high risk. It’s unfortunate that I learned as a young captain to never have a female alone in my office without a witness or the door wide open. I’ve seen too many people burnt that way. And I don’t care who it pisses off. Never, ever walk into an engagement zone alone and unarmed. Personally, the SHARP mafia has hijacked too many commands to the pint where it drives command issues. Frankly I’m tired of (insert ethnicity) month and hyphenated Americans. Every month is soldier month. Diversity means respecting what others bring to the fight regardless of background, not forced attendance to have the CSM’s pet rock of the month waste two hours of my soldiers’ time sitting through some half assed dog and pony show. Oddly enough there are plenty enough of these “presenters” because they’ve all been kicked upstairs to the CSM’s platoon for incompetence. The good soldiers (regardless of ethnicity) are earning their paycheck a leading soldiers, not fucking off at BDE HQ.

Try telling me I’m wrong and I’ll tell you you’re full of shit or have an axe to grind. Been too many places and seen the same bullshit over and over. My 11Bs and 19Ds thought it was a joke except for the fact that they were so insulted at the insinuation they were too ignorant or bigoted to respect folks for what they contribute instead of their background.

What a tremendous morale sucking program. And now you want this poison in the combat arms. Please, my guys don’t need anyone else’s fat ass and gear to hump.

Cajun

@11-you noticed that too. Yeah the EO and SHARP crime families are not my favorite peoples

However, one of these is not like the others. This case isn’t about some creeper in a bull&h!t special staff job, Take out SHARP and put in any duty title at any rank and we’ve all seen this before. I had a BC once who had a really volatile marriage that could easily have ended like this. Every redeploying unit, despite the ferocity of “reintegration training,” has its share of similar domestic incidents. But none of these have anything to do with sexual assault. I’m not saying wife-beating POSs are any better, but whenever there is a custody dispute, neither party has the benefit of the doubt.

2/17 Air Cav

The Washington Post carried this local, who-the-hell-cares story to do what? Haas is not accused of any sexual offense or impropriety. Dueling protective or stay-away orders are common in domestic disputes and some ugly divorces. The Mrs. made the complaint.

KenW

@8, I think you’re on to something. The SAPR guys are just trying to get some job security!

melle1228

I was just in Clarksville on Wednesday listening to all of order of protections. I would agree with Air Cav that a lot of those protection orders were bogus and filed as a addition to a contentious divorce.

Anonymous

It’s the rap culture that’s to blame every private or young lieutenant listens to that crap and trys to be one.

Veritas Omnia Vincit

Mutual orders of protection make difficult situations for decent people. It’s too bad when things don’t work out that folks can’t think about the kids and stop trying to slaughter each other in the process. It’s the one time when determining who wins usually means the children are the losers on pretty much every level unless one parent is clearly a criminal. Getting married when you are young is usually a huge mistake, but you can’t explain that to kids because they know they are smarter than you are. When things go sour, well we’ve all seen that fallout.

Not sure this guy is a bad guy in this case just because his wife asked for an order of protection…it’s usually a legal ploy to paint him as a sh1twagon for custody.

Bad marriages make decent people act in strange ways at times.

I didn’t realize it until my ex became someone I didn’t know during our divorce. She initiated the divorce, and then when things did not go her way legally exactly as she had hoped it got pretty weird pretty quickly. She was not a bad person, I always thought she was a good mom and a good wife. I didn’t realize what our marriage did to her until it was over, due to me being a dumb4ss I guess. My point is this bothers me a lot less than the 1SG pimp. I am inclined to believe this could be a tempest in a teapot until I hear more.

martinjmpr

@5: Just the opposite. The SAPR sounds like one of those thankless jobs that nobody wants and is often assigned to either (a) a screwup who nobody else wants in his section, (b) a retired-on-active-duty careerist who needs a job but doesn’t want to have to go to the field because he already cleaned his TA-50 for turn in or (c) a slacker with an axe to grind who’s looking to embellish his resume and/or get even with those who were promoted over him/her.

At least that’s the way it was when I was in. 2 words of advice to those of you still in: First never, EVER get a bus drivers license, and second, never, ever volunteer to be a UA (urinalysis) NCO (A/K/A/ Meat Gazer.) Trust me on these two!