“Amazing Race” celebrates Vietnamese communism
Old Trooper sends us a link to a video discussion on Fox News’ The Five as they discuss the “Amazing Race” celebration of Vietnamese communism. I never thought I’d ever say it, but Bob Beckel hit the nail square this time;
For more see what some guy named Mothax wrote at that place called The Burn Pit.
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Good for Bob…he’s absolutely right, that was fucking disgusting. That show got used like toilet paper…
“Long live independence and the freedom of our nation…”
Yeah, not so fucking much. That’s why Vietnam had “boat people” as late as 2008. Try playing that shit in my old neighborhood in Orange County (near Little Saigon) where probably half the neighbors on my block were Vietnamese and see how that flies.
This will ensure that I will continue to miss the “Amazing Race.”
This must be some sort of new record. Twice in one day I want to kick a puppy.
disclamer: no puppies were hurt or are in danger in the making of this comment.
How do you guys make it through the day being so offended all the time? The U.S. doesn’t give a shit about it’s veterans it cares about money. Perhaps you should move on because you’re not changing anything.
Oh, goody, another turd in the punchbowl.
Maybe if you weren’t such a fuckup you and other Cat-IV/V people might understand that shoving a veteran’s nose in the shit in such a disrespectful manner ain’t such a good thing.
Oh, and Dude? Again, go to Little Saigon and see how well that shit goes over. That’s from people who used to call Vietnam HOME.
Clue. You. One. Buy.
“How do you guys make it through the day being so offended all the time?”
Says the guy that constantly comes here and pisses and moans.
Twist–I think I found someone you can enjoy kicking without having the SPCA coming after your ass.
Make sure you wear the steel-toe boots, though.
I don’t know how many Vietnam vets are on here, but there should be a campaign to have CBS apologize publicly.
Bob is a leftist blow hard, but he is a good guy and well liked up in these parts.
He is spot on … just goes to show … a blow hard can still be right … about some things!
Bob is a Lib that I could actually enjoy hanging with. He stunned me last year when he said that George W. Bush did more about Aids in Africa than anyone else and he dis not get the credit he deserves.
I think I’ll send Bob a love note or something.
Good on that liberal blow hard Bob Beckel for calling it like it is, CBS should be greatly ashamed for having broadcast such offensive materials. Having contestants participate in a routine that proclaims the glorious freedoms under a communist regime that tortured and killed its own citizens as well as its enemies is beyond comprehension to me. I can’t imagine why they didn’t just have them run through the cemeteries at Normandy proclaiming the blessings of the 3rd Reich….
This is what happens with revisionist history, kids today don’t see Vietnam like those who fought there. They see it as they are taught in school, to these kids it’s a mistake made by imperialist American warmongers that ended with America’s defeat and the native people free of oppression by the Western powers. The veterans are victims of the government’s desire for colonialist expansion, who were used to kill the noble civilian population of Vietnam and it’s communist liberators.
We are reaping the benefits of an undereducated, relatively ignorant population. Populations without the ability to reason intellectually or even the desire/willpower to do so are always easy to manipulate and lead astray. Here’s hoping I am wrong on every level.
I am hoping that the Dude’s second sentence is as wrong as the first one, but I am not yet convinced that he is all that far off in sentence number two.
they have the international right to write their history. Remember, they won their war. Like all goood winners, they have the right to say how and why they won. Nor do they have to say our politicians soold us out there. If it was china today, shooting a show in El Chino, woould they make us look good or bad?
An “international right”? WTF is that? And, even if they do, CBS has no obligation to help them with their version of history.
they have the international right to write their history.
Uh, bullshit. And if you think I’m wrong, you just blew your own fuckinig argument out of the water when you claimed, “Remember, they won their war.”
The Japanese didn’t win WWII, but ask a kid in school in Japan about the atrocities they committed back then and stand by for a bunch of blank fucking stares.
Sparky, Yep, the Rape of Nanking is completly ignored over there.
I would like to also add that my brother married a Japanese woman when he was in the Navy. She was absolutly stunned when she learned the history of Japanese atrocities in WWII because they were never taught about them.
Twist–do ya one better–when I first got stationed in Pearl, it was amazing the number of Japanese tourists, especially the younger crowd, who thought the USS Arizona was STAGED.
If you’ve ever been to the memorial, you remember that you first see a short movie before boarding the small boat to the memorial itself. Well, one time there I heard some kids laughing during the movie. One of the escorts there was a Pearl Harbor survivor.
When we filed out of the movie, the kids (Japanese tourists, no more than 20 years old or so) were standing outside. They weren’t laughing any more.
When I was stationed on Schofield Barracks I was able to go to the Arizona memorial. The Japanese tourists were laughing and getting their pictures taken in front of the wall with the names of our dead. It took everything I had not to throw them over the side. Once we got back to land we were escorted into the theater and watched the movie about the rest of the Pacific portion of the war. The last scene was the mushroom cloud rising. Yeah, they weren’t laughing anymore.
Same boat in Pearl a couple of years later (I got there in 1988, this was 1991, IIRC) we had a naturalized Korean kid check into my division on the boat. He stayed down in Waikiki the night before rather than check into the Squadron/boat (understandable, first night in.)
I pick the kid up from his hotel and we’re driving back to Pearl. He’d lived in Korea until he was 17 (he was I think 24 then) before he came to the US and joined the Navy. One of the things that stuck in my mind when I was driving back is he observed, “Gee, there are a lot of Japanese around here. I fucking HATE Japanese.”
Through conversations and reading up, I found out why. Perfectly understandable.
We also had a MP get in a bit of trouble. A Japanese couple pulled up to the gate and asked for directions to Pearl. The MP replied “exactly where you left it”.
Yeah, that never got old.
My best liberty call wasn’t PI or Thailand, but Australia in 1992, when I had just checked onto the USS Proteus. They were doing one last run before being decomissioned (she was around during WWII.)
Someone actually found the original camoflage paint scheme and they painted her in that scheme before we left for Sydney in rememberance of the 50th anniversary of the Battle of the Coral Sea.
To see so many grateful people, thanking us for what our parents and grandparents did…yeah, it’s days like those that you know why you do what you do.
@21 I saw the Arizona when I went there on vacation. I remember two things; people walking around chatting and laughing, and the drops of oil, one after the other, that slowly came to the surface from the Arizona. I was told they’re called “sailor’s tears.”
It’s the only part of the vacation that I remember.
I’ll ad that show to my list of reasons why I REFUSE to watch anything on the Communist Broadcast System!
NHSparky: there isn’t much love lost between Korea (either) and Japan even today. People tend to remember being treated effectively as slave labor for five decades and having their homeland and culture pretty much destroyed.
But look at how cheery and corridinate the Communists are. They’ve got jazz!
Beckel’s outrage was suited, however other Communist shit that’s been discussed on that show before he blows off which makes me believe he’s only that outraged because of a personal event instead of the ideology.
@21. That’s a framer.
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The communist want to say or sing whatever the hell they want. CBS should be more sensitive of not singing along with them.
Don’t blame McDonald for selling fat food! Blame yourself for buying and eating their food.
It is ashame. I am ashame.
People here are really old. Move on!
Hondo, NHSparky, It isn’t just Koreans, many others still hate Japan. China, Malaysia, Singapore,…. They’ve invaded, raped, and pillaged plenty of other Asian Nations as well! A retired Army LTC I used to attend Church with, a Korea/Vietnam Vet as well, told me about when he first set foot in South Korea in 1948, he saw how the Koreans had pretty much intentionally destroyed that country’s railroads themselves. They were well built, had good equipment, and were capable of doing a lot of good, but they were built by the Japanese, and that alone made them hate and destroy them!
@32 “People here are really old. Move on!”
When I go to my local gas/convenience store, I periodically chat with a young man who is in his 20s. Great guy, personable, hard worker and smart as whip. One day I asked him where came from. He said Vietnam, and came here when he was 7. Later on we talked more and come to find out his dad fought on the South Vietnamese side with SF (I never told him my background) and that his dad was a prisoner for EIGHTEEN years AFTER the war for fighting with the South Vietnamese. Imprisoned by the Communists. When he got out of prison, he met his mom got married and now here in the US. His son refers to him as a POW and his dad rarely talks about his war time experience.
I guess the Australians who post the weather in there newspaper of the Dardanelles need to move on as well?
I am going to make it a point to see the young man TODAY and mention that “We are really old and need to move on” comment.
Get fucking real.
Proud Infidel: agreed. But IMO the Korean case is a bit different, and the animosity runs deeper.
Among those countries, all but Korea tend to hate Japan due to World War II. However, Korea was effectively a Japanese colony for roughly 50 years (1895-1945) – and Korea was royally screwed over by Japan for pretty much the entire time. Even the parts of China occupied and abused by Japan for years during World War II (Manchuria, parts of the Chinese coast) were held in general for less than a decade, with Manchuria being pretty much the only exception. And Manchuria was only held for 13 or 14 years.
Lots of places in Asia rather detest the Japanese. But Korea’s animosity is IMO rather different, and deeper.
“People here are really old. Move on!”
I’m in my 30’s which is hardly old, but my parants taught me to respect my elders like the Vietnam vets that CBS just slapped in the face. I guess showing respect is going out of style with my generation.
I meant to say “parents”. I don’t know who those other “parants” people are.
David (32): I guess I could observe that you must be a still-wet-behind-the-ears naive young fool who doesn’t yet know his ass from a hole in the ground. But I’ll refrain from doing that.
You don’t have to be old to know someone who fought in Vietnam, and to respect their service – and be disturbed by someone denigrating their service and sacrifice. When you’ve gained a bit of “life experience”, perhaps you’ll understand that.
The sad part is that David doesn’t find anything wrong with having Americans singing the praises of a communist regime that killed its’ own citizens in the north as a routine method of controlling the population, and when they invaded the south they imprisoned and murdered thousands more.
David feels that we should just move on and pretend that didn’t happen I guess….to David anyone who murders their own citizens as a method of strengthening their hold on the population must be okay. After all if you move on and let them sing songs about their glorious freedoms (of which they have none) everyone can just pretend it’s all good. Even when it’s not….
Sorry David, some of us believe when you are a piece of sh1t murderer you should be called out on it and pay a price for that behavior.
But thanks for contributing, we certainly appreciate your salient observation and intellectually articulated comment. It’s great to see how the education system in place today turns out such sterling examples of intellect and observation.
I talked to the Vietnamese refugee today at the convenient store. I mentioned “old and need to move on” comment. He was adept to state if you don’t remember history, it will repeat itself.
Mr. David… go and make your “comment” to Sidney Sachnow. See what he has to say. I will admit he might be “old,” but I don’t think he is the kind of guy to “move on.”
Jim: Nobody has the “international right” of write whatever the hell they want because they won, facts are facts and they should be taken as that. The fact that you believe if you win you can rewrite history as you see fit tells me a lot about your character, in which I’m not bored enough to profile or dissect (honestly, you are not worth 15 minutes of my time) but you should understand people here are offended because some were even in Vietnam! (A trip around the member’s gallery could have actually told you that) so I think someone has a bit of the bully complex! care to rewrite your bad childhood much dude? parents gave you a lof of self importance so you think you were mistreated and you pushed unto others and then it was their fault? are we a bit passive-aggressive? is ok, is ok just, rewrite it all … I promise not to notice. David: Not everyone here is old, but allow me to refer you to something, contrary to the stupidity perpetuated by the “young generation” (Fortunately I had a dad that put me straight the first time I thought that) “Old guys/gals” (Allow me the liberty to say that although I know some here are not old at all) know better, specially over past events they might have first hand knowledge. It is that mentality that allows past mistakes to be repeated, I was a few years old when the Vietnam war ended but I took the time to learn (perhaps because of my military inclination) but the elders command respect and knowledge. Now saying it’s time to move on… Let me give you one good advice: “If someone else gives you a tip, LISTEN”, it works, it might not be a golden rule, it might not be the law, but LISTEN, because with age comes knowledge, remember not only you gain knowledge from your success but you gain even more from your failures, if you rewrite your failures, you miss the opportunity to learn. Anyway I’m sorry for just jumping around this when… Read more »
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Who the fuck you kiddin, dishwasher boy? You ain’t even got coin enough to sleep on your own fucking couch in your own fucking place!