Okay Gun Nuts – What Is It?

| November 25, 2011

The long black thing, that is.

Oh well, two comments is all it took. Thanks for playing along.

Yep, it is an AR-7. The are many like it, but this one is mine! Designed by some guy named Stoner who apparently had a thing for black plastic guns? And it floats!

Category: Geezer Alert!

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2-17 AirCav

Flare gun, slightly modified.

Robert

Looks like an AR-7 with an extended magazine.

S.G.

AR-7 .22LR made by Henry Arms, Armalite, Charter arms, etc. over the years. designed by Eugene Stoner, it dissassembles and all parts and 10 rd mad fit into stock, stock will float if dropped in water. Bond uses one in Goldfinger IIRC. this one has a aftermarket mag fitted

Bosniarat

AR-7 they actually make an Extended Magazine for it?

2-17 AirCav

Here’s a question for you, Zero, Robert, or anyone else who knows his hardware. Last night I saw the TV show Son of a Gun (?) and they refurbished and live fired a 57 mm WWII anti-tank gun. Can people actually obtain licenses for working artillery? I’m not interested in owning any (plaese take not Federal agents, I said NOT) but it always baffles me that the guys on the show can legally possess and operate grenade launchers, .50 cal machine guns, fire spitters, and all sorts of other serious goodies. Anyone got an answer?

Jonn Lilyea

2-17 Cav, that question would be best answered by The Armorer.

Jonn Lilyea

I actually own an AR-7 – I bought it for fishing when I was at Fort Hood 25 years ago, well, I used it for rattlesnakes who used to haunt me around Belton Lake while I was fishing. I used rat shot in it. They make complete conversion kits for it to make it look evil, but I never felt the need.

Country Singer

2-17, I’m sure that as a manufacturer they have have all kinds of Class III licenses from BATF.

Toothless Dawg

2-17 Air Cav,

Its not illegal to own a grenade launcher. Firing actual grenades just may be illegal without a license. You’ll see ads for the launchers but they’re careful to say ‘for firing tennis balls, etc’. Its something like guys building a ‘tater gun’ out of PVC pipe and aerosol spray. I don’t believe ‘fire spitters’ are illegal either … you may need a license nowadays to own one, I’m not sure … in the 80s there was a shotgun shell that would actually shoot out a huge flame after firing. I can’t remember the name that was attached to it though … but it was sold across the counter, at gunshows, and online. Owning the .50cal is also legal with a class III license.

S.G.

Anything 20mm and over is classed a Destructive Device. A working M1 Anti Tank gun can be licenced. Ammo is AP solidshot is unlicenced but HE would be an individual destrutive device needing its own permit and serial number from ATF. Same for M-203/M-79 needs permit and any explosive rounds need their own also. Chalk rounds no permits needed federally.

The M7, M8 grenade launchers for M1 Garands and Carbines arent weapons on their own, just an adapter and doesnt need a permit.

Bird Bombs (12 Ga with M-80) are now restricted by ATF.

Old Trooper

You can buy 37mm “flare launchers” that look very much like 40mm M204 grenade launchers. They shoot flares, but there are many videos showing home made “report” rounds for them. Same as with suppressors, you have to pay the NFA $200 tax and it has to be registered with the gummint.

As for the 57mm round and actual “live” barrels on tanks, etc. Yes, you can own them, however, you have to go through all the class III licensing and such. There is a place up here where they have all the toys that civilians can come and shoot, including 1919 machine guns adn all the other really cool stuff. Come with a ready supply of cash, because it ain’t cheap to shoot any of it.

2-17 AirCav

Thank you all for the wealth of info. Good stuff.

ARoberts

@9: I think what you are talking about was called “Dragon’s Breath” or something like that. I have some here at the house from about 10 years ago that we just never finished shooting. I saw some a few years ago at a gun show but really havent seen much of it since.

Anonymous

@13 ARoberts – you got it, dragons breath. Thanks for joggin’ my memory

Toothless Dawg

Whoops #14 was me

fm2176

I bought an AR-7 a few years ago; the newer ones are all fancified with a Picatinny rail on top and more vibrant markings. They are nice little stowaway pieces for hiking/camping or to keep in a vehicle or 72-hr kit. The Marlin Papoose is another nice little take-down gun that I own, but it only disassembles into the barrel and stock/receiver groups and must be stowed in its case in order to float.

tavern knight

@10

“Bird Bombs (12 Ga with M-80) are now restricted by ATF.”

S.G., how ’bout a M-80 with a slingshot & a smidgin more of cannon fuze?

Paul

where did you get that high capacity mag for your AR 7 ?

Scott

After my father passed in June 2012, I found a Charter Arms AR-7 while cleaning out his closet. I too would like to know more about that Hi-Cap Mag. Manufacturer? PLace of purchase? Cost?