WTF?!

| October 22, 2011

Ok this was going to be about a photo that looks like 100% poser. Take a look.

Ok with the many fakes like Jessie Macbeth, Rich Duncan, and James Morriss to name a few. So now with this new guy the trend continues. Has this happened to people above? Yea. But considering the anti-war history of lying and creating fake war veterans that you really thing think that a nameless guy wearing headgear that is linked to all people that wanted to kill him. But he support the OWS movement so that is a automatic pass. If that was not crazy enough I just got this story.

A married mother of four from Florida ditched her family to become part of the raggedy mob in Zuccotti Park — keeping the park clean by day and keeping herself warm at night with the help of a young waiter from Brooklyn.

“I’m not planning on going home,” an unapologetic Stacey Hessler, 38, told The Post yesterday.
“I have no idea what the future holds, but I’m here indefinitely. Forever,” said Hessler, whose home in DeLand sits 911 miles from the tarp she’s been sleeping under.

Hessler — who ironically is married to a banker — arrived 12 days ago and planned to stay for a week, but changed her plans after cozying up to some like-minded radicals, including Rami Shamir, 30, a waiter at a French bistro in Cobble Hill, Brooklyn.

She swears she’s not romantically involved with her new friend.Yesterday was a typical day for the pair, who woke up at 8 a.m. on their little patch of paving stone near the communal kitchen and dashed off to Trinity Church to wash up.

Hessler emerged an hour later, her brown hair in dreadlocks, wearing a T-shirt depicting Han Solo and Princess Leia kissing, and bearing the slogan “Make Love Not War.”

She got coffee and a granola bar from the protest kitchen before sorting laundry for two hours.
The unemployed Long Island native compared her decision to abandon her family to Americans serving in the armed forces.

“Military people leave their families all the time, so why should I feel bad?” a defiant Hessler said. “I’m fighting for a better world.”

Yea. Just remember if any one says that the support Occupy Wall Street that this is what kind of people that that sympathies with.

Category: Antiwar crowd, General Whackos, I hate hippies

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melle1228

Just for fun I truly think we should start making satire photos and videos of these idiots.

The recipe is simple: Start by buying a bad set of dreds at a Halloween store. Then we can wrap up our faces too.. Of course we must be wearing one of three t-shirts( marijuana plant, peace sign, or a che t-shirt).

Then you can hold up a sign that says “I participated in an OWS protest and all I got was a bad case of crabs when another protestor raped me while sharing my tent. Of course, I blame (fill in the blank here-multiple choice) a.) bankers b.) crony capitalism c.) wall street d.) The man e.)Bush f.) military-industrial complex

Let me know if I have forgotten anything…

daendda

Not buying it. An Army NCO/veteran wouldn’t hide behind a mask while simultaneously trying to establish his credibility as an Army NCO/veteran. What a pathetic fake.

2-17AirCav

“Military people leave their families all the time, so why should I feel bad?” Whoa. That line sounds like a variation of the liberal line of thinking that puts so-called public servants on par with military service members, as if being a wined and dined appointed or elected official is the equivalent of serving in the military. In her case, it’s just more bizarre. How many moms walk out on their children to JOIN the military as she did in joining OWS? For that matter, how many military moms volunteer to be separated from their children and husbands? This is just so sick on so many levels it just makes me want to puke.

HM2 FMF/SW Ret

I don’t know if this soldier is legit or not. If he is still AD or Reserve, I can see it. He says nothing that is blatently out of line. Though, looking at the eyes, I wonder if this is a female? I can’t tell. The headgear looks like the kind that was issued to SoF and then coveted among line troops. It’s not wholly unbelieveable, just questionable.

As to the woman from Florida, so what? This shows that there are people who are dedicated to their cause. I found this article to be unfairly biased. How do we know that her husband is not supportive. How old are her kids? What are her family arrangements? We don’t know. I for one am glad that there are still epople who will stand up for what they believe in, even if I know them to be wrong.

2-17AirCav

@4. Well, her youngest child is 7 and her own mother calls Stacey selfish for leaving her family and taking up with the OWS mob. I’d give you the links (not the NY Post) but there are answers to your questions if you take 5 minutes to look for them.

jonp

idk, don’t all of our vets run around in uniform with the american flag upside down on the uniform?

Doc Bailey

well this dude is probably 100% fake. aside from the fact that its insanely easy to get ACUs and that as previously shown these ass hats have no shame.

and this mother, probably got boned a few times. I’m thinking she was going to heave her husband anyway. It’s ok I’m sure she’s going to get a WONDERFUL surprise 6 months hence when she’s replaced by a wife that’s hotter and actually gives a shit about her children.

2-17AirCav

Some folks are misreading the 99% slogan used by the Occupy Mob. What it actually means is that 99% of the occupiers are atypical Americans. To put it another way, the 99% per centers do not hold the traditional values, work ethics, or moral sensibilities that 99% of Americans hold. And if you want to know how I know that, please first ask the occupiers to justify their 99% claim.

HM2 FMF/SW Ret

AirCav: My questions were aimed more at the author of the hit piece than at you. Even with that info, so what? How many men at this protest or other movements (I use this term loosely) have done the same thing? How many people have? This is not news. There is a guy in my town that just got divorced because he was running around the country with the Tea Party.

There are plenty of issues with the OWS crowd, but this is not one of them. This is little more than a hit piece.

2-17AirCav

Yes, it does not treat her kindly at all. But I think that is the point. Even in 2011, moms who desert their families are viewed quite differently than fathers who do so. Whether they ought to be viewed differently is another matter but the piece, in my view, reflects the repugnance most of us feel for mothers who do so.

UpNorth

Yep, she’s well-grounded, all right. “She called herself a “radical unschooling mom of four, midwives assistant, roller-derby queen, rock-star musician, activist, dreadlock princess, African-bee keeper, organic vegan freak and a surrogate for the second time.”
And, if hubby supports her shacking up under a tarp with an under-employed “waiter”, I’m glad he isn’t handling my money.
A neighbor described her thusly, “The Man’ she went up there to fight against is the bank where her husband works.

“She believes everything should be free,” the neighbor added.”
So, yeah, she’s someone who subscribes to the Me theory, everything should be free to me.

Country Singer

They say her husband is a banker, but I’d be willing to bet five bucks he’s actually a teller. Or works in the cash cage at the dog track. I just find it hard to believe that there is some kind of “Dharma and Greg” thing going on.

melle1228

>Even with that info, so what? How many men at this protest or other movements (I use this term loosely) have done the same thing? How many people have? This is not news. There is a guy in my town that just got divorced because he was running around the country with the Tea Party>

As a mother of two…I say she is a scum bucket. Children need their mothers. They need their fathers too, but fathers are generally there to teach children to take risk and be extroverts. Mothers are there to teach children unconditional love and stability. A mother should NEVER abandon their children. I am not even real sure how military woman can leave their children and it is a fact that a lot of woman who serve in the military get out once they have children for that very reason.

The fact that you are making it a point of excusing her behavior shows EXACTLY what is wrong with our country. The woman had responsibilities that SHE MADE- her children. If the one person in the world abandons you that should never abandon you (your mother) that messes with your psyche. The fact that this bitch thinks it is more important to live in a tent and clean a park than raise productive, healthly future tax paying citizens is telling about her character.

BTW, your tea party example is idiotic. I don’t care that this woman left her husband. So a man got divorced because he was involved in a cause. Has he completely abandoned his children? Does he provide no monetary support to his children? If so, then it doesn’t matter what political affliation- it is an ass. But if he just got a divorced and there were no children involved- it is hardly equivalent. People get divorced all the time.

schilldog

Poser. No soldier would put their US flag patch on upside down. I can’t see it clearly but that looks like upside down specialist rank, not stripes.

NHSparky

schill–could also be SSG rank. Hard to say for sure. Either way, I wouldn’t follow this guy into a PI bar/whorehouse if he was buying.

HM2 FMF/SW Ret

14: That’s not true. The upside down flag is a sign of distress to life or property. Veterans on both Left and Right have done it. Many find it disrespectful, however it is permissable.

Melle you are missing the point. I am not excusing her behavior. It is none of my business nor is it any of yours. It is a family matter that has nothing to do with the larger problem. There is plenty to disagree with these people about, but one woman leaving home for an indefinate period of time is not one of them.

melle1228

>It is none of my business nor is it any of yours.

Yeah it is. When her kids are dysfunctional because her lack of responsibility- it effects us ALL. Nothing happens in a vacuum..

2-17AirCav

Two men kiss openly in public;

A person flies the hammer and sickle from his porch;

A grade school teacher works as a stripper at night;

Someone uses extremely foul language in public;

A driver hangs metal testicles from the rear of his vehicle;

A mother dresses her young son as a girl;

A father drinks much too much in the home or in a local bar…

These few examples are meant to spotlight a point of view that sees these things as anti-thetical to a morally healthy society. And that is why each of these items—and a mother who walks out on her 7 year old and three other children to join in the OWS charade—IS our business.

Doc Bailey

There is a point to be made that morality does become a societal problem. Free speech only goes so far, and telling me I have to put up with it because you’re just exercising your rights only gets old, immediately. Just to prove they’re gay in the many San Fran parades they’ll have people giving blow jobs in public. Are we supposed to comment on how brave it is to flaunt such abhorrent behavior that pretty much ever rational person agrees children SHOULD NOT BE EXPOSED TO? How about when an age old and sacred tradition like say the Eucharist is turned into circus theater? Oh I was just exercising my rights to spit communion back into your face. Or cover Jesus in shit, or have the Virgin Mary in a jar of piss.

Marriage is supposed to be a sacred act. An act, and vow taken before God and all that know you that you will “forsake all others” and that even when times get hard you will stick by the one you love. It is for the purpose of raising children in a structured way so they don’t go all Lord of the Flies (like they’ve been doing lately). Are we supposed to now accept that really its OK if marriage is just something to do, and not really that binding after all. Isn’t it reasonable to expect, and even quite frankly demand that both husband and wife honor each other?

at some point you just can NOT turn a blind eye. At somepoint, you HAVE to say ENOUGH. At some point the standards of what is and is not acceptable have to be made VERY clear. Think of it in the terms of the Hen that baked a loaf of bread, you can do your own thing if you want, but do not expect to reap the benefits as well.

Just Plain Jason

Personally I think the person in the photo is a fake, just a gut feeling. If you are a vet you show your face.

I just think the woman in the article took a class in literature and was introduced to the turd of a book The Awakening.

Old Trooper

Actually, schilldog, they love to have the American flag upside down, it’s part of the vet protester street cred to do so. It’s been done back during Vietnam, when Kerry’s bunch would carry an American flag mounted upside down.

melle1228

>Marriage is supposed to be a sacred act. An act, and vow taken before God and all that know you that you will “forsake all others” and that even when times get hard you will stick by the one you love.

You know Doc, I completely agree with you. My husband and I will have been married 20 years in December(a month longer than he has been in the military). That being said, I am getting so cynical- I would just be happy if at this point people would make a committment to their children and try to not mess them up.

Just Plain Jason

Trucknuts need to be done away with, not on a moral level but they are just screwed up. I have to resist the urge to cut them off and castrate every truck I see with them.

NHSparky

Jason…I would disagree with you. Kinda like free speech, it allows you to see the idiots coming from a lot farther off.

And when I lived in SoCal, the people who had the truck balls usually if not always had Raiders stickers somewhere nearby. YMMV.

2-17AirCav

“Mom?”

“Yes, Becky.”

“What’s that hanging from that truck?”

“Oh. Uh. Um. Those are those things that–Hey, do me favor. Let’s sing that song we used to sing last year when you were 5.”

Just Plain Jason

I like to think of it as things you can say or do but shouldn’t. I would just like to find the person who came up with them and jam a set down his throat… They are one of the many douche bag tags in the world…

Adirondack Patriot

I spent nine hours yesterday helping flood victims in Schohairie, NY, who are homeless since Hurricane Irene struck.

Funny thing is, at the same time 300 “Occupy” idiots were demonstrating in Albany 40 miles away.

We sure could have used their help. I mean, the materials we were using were donated by banks and corporations and churches.

Nothing came from the spoiled Occupy morons.

Nothing.

HM2 FMF/SW Ret

AP: You make an excellent point. While on could argue that perhaps the corporations have not done enough (I am not making that point), they have done far more than OWS. Doc: I agree with you whole heartedly. However, as much as I hate the “art” you describe. It is my right to hate it, it is my right not to look at it and it is my right to encourage others not to look at it at the top of my voice and it is my right to petition my congress critters not to provide federal funding for it. However,it is not my right to stop the “artist” from making. Air Cav: I detest many of the things that you site above. Most of which should not rise to the level of being criminal. I don’t like PDA, but you can do it. I think the Hammer and Sicle represents a failed expirment that has been proven ecconomically unsound. You may believe in it if you want to. It is my right to think you are a fool. School teachers are generally forbidden from such behavior by their contracts. Some are written so ambiguously that a teacher in GA was fired for having a picture of herself on Facebook where she held a glass of wine. I think that a society in which someone like a teacher would have to get a second job to make ends meet speaks volumes about the moral illness in our society, but that’s just me. Fould language in public should be decried. A mother dressing a boy as a girl, not going to go there. I concede that it bothers you. Truck Nuts should be kinda like indecent exposure. Same goes for T-shirts dipicting genetalia. I think the same thing for abortion clinic protesters with the pictures of late term abortions. Melle: I personally am offended by the generalization that men are essentially useless as parents. Children need to know that they are unconditionally loved by both parents. They need the wisdom and counsel of both. I take my daughter to choir, I… Read more »

2-17AirCav

@28. What I was responding to was the notion that if something is a person’s choice, what business is it of anyone else. No question but there are times when it’s butting in and times when it’s not. There is no pat formula for the determination but without some sort of moral compass, we are left with the standard of whether a particular act or omission is illegal or not. And when that happens, we are in deep, deep trouble as a society.

UpNorth

“I think that a society in which someone like a teacher would have to get a second job to make ends meet speaks volumes about the moral illness in our society”. Well, unless it’s the individual choices that particular teacher makes. Then, it’s the “moral illness” of that person.

melle1228

>I personally am offended by the generalization that men are essentially useless as parents.

I NEVER said that. I specifically said that children need their father too. Being a military mother of a 12 year old son- I understand that more than most. Fathers and mothers are complimentary to each other and bring different things to the table. The father though is the one that teaches the children to have wings and fly, to take risks while the mother generally keeps them grounded. Pretty easy example for you : Who is the one who throws the baby up and catches the baby making the baby laugh? Daddy— Who is the one on the sidelines going “please be careful.” Mommy

I always tell people that I can never teach my son to be a man; that takes a man. It also takes a man to teach his daughter how she should be treated by men. This woman left THREE daughters. What example does that leave to them on how to be a woman? Your parents also teach you what a healthy relationship is.. Again, what message is she sending

HM2 FMF/SW Ret

UpNorth:

Maybe no one should teach our children then. In NC, teachers and other state employees have not had a raise in 5+ years yet cost of living is continuing to increase. Teachers moonlighting is a common thing because few can make it on their salaries.

jonp

@#32: throwing the bullshit flag on that one. In NC the average teachers salary is about $44,000. That pretty much what I make working 60-70hrs a week year round and I am paying for my own health-care and i am making it. The teachers and other PUBLIC employees should stop whining and man-up the fuck up.

2-17AirCav

jonp: That’s the state salary. I’m not certain whether that includes the local supplement. I don’t want to turn this into a discussion of education because such discussions always end up in the same place. Nevertheless, I always get a kick out of teacher salary complaints and how their job performance ISN’T tied to their pay, with limited exceptions across the US. Even rarer is any tie of salary to student performance on standardized tests. Teachers and their union never want you to look at salaries relative to the cost of living where they teach. And I wish, just once, the state colleges would stop putting weapons in the backs of their students and forcing them to take teacher certification courses.

UpNorth

HM2, then perhaps those teachers ought to take their skills to someone who’ll pay them what they’re worth? That’s why it’s called a free market, you acquire a skillset, if one isn’t compensated like they think they should be, they’re always free to seek better paying employment elsewhere. Kinda like free agency in sports.
And, again, is that not an individual choice? And, according to http://www.ncpublicschools.org/docs/fbs/finance/salary/schedules/2011-12schedules.pdf a teacher with 15 years service and NBPTS certification makes $45K, base salary, a teacher with a bachelor’s but without the certification makes $41,180. Not the greatest rate of pay in the country, but certainly not poverty level wages.

MikeyB75

@ UpNorth

Now your just being silly presenting factual information in that debate….lol

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